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Message started by oceanZ on Sep 15th, 2008 at 10:19pm

Title: Brendan Nelson stands aside....
Post by oceanZ on Sep 15th, 2008 at 10:19pm
to allow a vote for leader of opposition to take place.This was announced on the news tonight.

He will be standing for election along with the usual I guess..

He has guts ill give him that..or he is just fed up with the speculation and unrest.

good luck Nelson.   :(

Title: Re: Brendan Nelson stands aside....
Post by tallowood on Sep 15th, 2008 at 10:40pm
Yes, he has guts and probably is the most honest of the lot as nobody wanted the job straight after last year defeat. It is most likely that the next federal elections still won't be a win for coalition so if there will be another Liberal Party leader he or she will be just another sacrificial pawn. On another hand Malcolm Turnbull may decide to go "Howard's Way" to get in and out early and then to get in again just before everybody get sick from Labor. However this strategy involves risk of mistiming.

Title: Malcom Turnbull wins leadership vote...
Post by oceanZ on Sep 16th, 2008 at 9:54am
Tallowood...Yes he was a brave man picking up the batton in that first few months..It was a thankless task and has proved to be to date...much criticism has been aimed at him and for what...

Here is an article anyway on same..



Turnbull wins Liberals leadership vote
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Malcolm Turnbull has defeated Brendan Nelson by just four votes to take the leadership of the federal Liberal party.

A party room spokesman said Mr Turnbull had 45 votes to Dr Nelson's 41 votes.

Julie Bishop remains as deputy leader.

The Liberal Party will hold a press conference shortly to discuss the result.

Dr Nelson, who had polled poorly against Prime Minister Kevin Rudd for more than nine months, on Monday night called a shock spill of the leadership to try to stem continuing destabilisation of his position.

Mr Turnbull - who was the party's treasury spokesman - lost a leadership ballot by just three votes to Dr Nelson late last year.

http://news.theage.com.au/national/turnbull-wins-liberals-leadership-vote-20080916-4h7s.html

Title: Re: Brendan Nelson stands aside....
Post by easel on Sep 16th, 2008 at 10:45am
He was a member of the big banking elite.

He wanted the dams sold and the Murray sold to the bank he used to work for.

We really don't need this cretin.

Title: Re: Brendan Nelson stands aside....
Post by locutius on Sep 16th, 2008 at 11:16am
Who easel ?

That could be anyone in the Liberal party. ;) Or probably Labor party for that matter :'(

Title: Re: Brendan Nelson stands aside....
Post by easel on Sep 16th, 2008 at 11:20am
Turnbull.

Wasn't he a big wig over at Macquarie Bank? And then the Murray (or the snowy, one of them) was going to be sold to Macquarie Bank until talk back radio went psycho and Johnnie had to cancel the plan?

He's a crook!

Title: Re: Brendan Nelson stands aside....
Post by sprintcyclist on Sep 16th, 2008 at 11:43am

Turnbull the Terrific is here !!!!!!!!!!!
He has improved as a pollie and will wipe the floor with ruddydudd.

Turnbull's a winner, not a wimper. He is staunch, not a sook.
The leftards can retire to their hand wringing, apologetic, kaftan wearing ways.

Title: Re: Brendan Nelson stands aside....
Post by locutius on Sep 16th, 2008 at 1:21pm

easel wrote on Sep 16th, 2008 at 11:20am:
Turnbull.
Wasn't he a big wig over at Macquarie Bank? And then the Murray (or the snowy, one of them) was going to be sold to Macquarie Bank until talk back radio went psycho and Johnnie had to cancel the plan?

He's a crook!


Yes mate, he is a scary man.

Title: Re: Brendan Nelson stands aside....
Post by easel on Sep 16th, 2008 at 2:54pm
During that time he was 'Minister for Environment and Water Resources'.

How the public (let alone his own party!) have continued to support him remains a mystery to me.

Then again, they say the worlds biggest gangsters end up in politics and big business.

They're all bastards.

Was just reading his wikipedia article. Likely to be accurate considering his staffers would be maintaining it. The incestuous relationships between the media, banking and political world is plain for even an idiot to see after having a look through it.

Title: Re: Brendan Nelson stands aside....
Post by mozzaok on Sep 16th, 2008 at 8:41pm
Oooh, tough crowd!

I do not mind a man of means seeking public office, accept at local council level, where there have been just too many crooked developers and estate agents rorting the system, but I would ban councils anyway, if I had my way, three tiers of government is at least one too many.

Back to Malcolm, I don't mind him, as far as the Libs go, they could do a lot worse, and they usually do, no party has a knack for picking deceitful bast@rds, like the Libs do.

I think The Cruel Sea will be getting plenty of air time in canberra now, because for Rudd, finally, "The Honeymoon Is Over"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eo-S_6-v6VU  8-)

Title: Re: Brendan Nelson stands aside....
Post by sprintcyclist on Sep 16th, 2008 at 10:31pm
mozzaok - yes, 3 levels of govt is one too many.
As happened in business many years ago, the middle management is the obvious one to go.

I could see rudd the petal wilting under a sustained Turnbull the Terriffic effortless powerful questioning.

rudd would far rather face up to nelson than Turnbull

Title: Re: Brendan Nelson stands aside....
Post by tallowood on Sep 17th, 2008 at 7:17am
Is it sign of devil or number of holes on the face?



The photo paparazzi can be real bastards sometimes.


Title: Re: Brendan Nelson stands aside....
Post by athiest on Sep 17th, 2008 at 9:41am
I've always expected Turnbull to be Lib leader, so its no surprise, but what I find interesting is that we now have a Lib leader who I believe is more left wing than the Labor leader.
Will this push Labor more to the left?
I'm sure the Libs will be more socially aware under Turnbull than they ever were under Howard, and I have to be honest I kind of like him, he reminds me of Keating, I just think he is in the wrong party, maybe we can do an exchange, the Libs can have kevvy and Labor can take Turnbull.
The best thing about it is that under Turnbull the Libs should be a much more moderate party than they were under Howard.
I saw a poll this morning where 72% of people thought Turnbull could beat Rudd at the next election, I expect kevvys honymoon might be comming to an end and I expect Turnbull to at least double Nelsons figures as prefered PM in the first survey out, which I think is next week.
Labor and Liberal supporters be afraid be very afraid, I think we are in for a very interesting ride.

Title: Re: Brendan Nelson stands aside....
Post by helian on Sep 17th, 2008 at 10:04am

Sprintcyclist wrote on Sep 16th, 2008 at 10:31pm:
mozzaok - yes, 3 levels of govt is one too many.
As happened in business many years ago, the middle management is the obvious one to go.

Except that usually in these kinds of rationalisation exercises its the tea lady who gets the sack.

Title: Re: Brendan Nelson stands aside....
Post by oceanZ on Sep 17th, 2008 at 11:40am
It wont be long before Turnbulls smug slimey grin gets on everyones nerves...

ugghh I cant stand him.

But Politics will get more interesting from this point on. My God we sure need it to ..the honeymoon stage has been quite nauseating .

Im going to love the sparring between him and Rudd.

Rudd doesnt do "dirty"  very well  .

Peter is waiting ..waiting...

Title: Re: Brendan Nelson stands aside....
Post by sprintcyclist on Sep 17th, 2008 at 12:44pm
tallowood - hahhah, thought Turnbull was hypnotising the media with that secret handsign ??

oceanz - rudd does not do "honest open debating" very well, he does do "ALP knifeintheback" expertly well.

Title: Re: Brendan Nelson stands aside....
Post by athiest on Sep 17th, 2008 at 3:14pm

Sprintcyclist wrote on Sep 17th, 2008 at 12:44pm:
tallowood - hahhah, thought Turnbull was hypnotising the media with that secret handsign ??

oceanz - rudd does not do "honest open debating" very well, he does do "ALP knifeintheback" expertly well.


Turnbull will do better than Nelson but, all you will hear from now until the next election is WORK CHOICES, short of a major stuff up nobody will trust the Libs for a long time becouse of WORKCHOICES.

Title: Re: Brendan Nelson stands aside....
Post by sprintcyclist on Sep 17th, 2008 at 3:31pm
Under the Libs, there was a choice, there were jobs.

The rate that jobs are disappearing now, there will be no choice at all.

Title: Re: Brendan Nelson stands aside....
Post by oceanZ on Sep 17th, 2008 at 3:36pm

Sprintcyclist wrote on Sep 17th, 2008 at 12:44pm:
tallowood - hahhah, thought Turnbull was hypnotising the media with that secret handsign ??

oceanz - rudd does not do "honest open debating" very well, he does do "ALP knifeintheback" expertly well.


Sprint..I have become increasinlgly disillusioned with Rudds performance over the last few months..so the knife in the back thing Im not sure about really...who did he knife.?

I do know  that he cant handle himself very well on the floor from past experience and Turnbull may eat him for breakfast..

That will be embarrassing.

Title: Re: Brendan Nelson stands aside....
Post by sprintcyclist on Sep 17th, 2008 at 3:59pm
he backstabbed the (ex) NSW premier
agreed on a deal with the unions, then backed out, without mentioning that part of it.

Was in the australian

Title: Re: Brendan Nelson stands aside....
Post by freediver on Oct 4th, 2008 at 8:12pm
Nelson's move to call the election was not 'brave'. It was a cynical ploy to get the inevitable over with and hopefully catch turnbull on short notice and not give him enough time to do all the necessary politiking. It backfired on him. Or rather he didn't stand a chance but he nearly got away with it.

At least Turnbull is not into stupid vote buying stunts the way Nelson was. Nelson was gradually sacrificing the Lib's reputation just so he could get his approval rating up into double digits.

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