Looks like some things never change. Catholics still impeding science and technological advances...will these backwards people ever start living in the 21st Century. ;)

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CAIRO — A British Roman Catholic school has barred its schoolgirls from receiving a cancer vaccine, drawing condemnation from health officials for an "irresponsible" decision that may affect students' lives, The Times reported on Thursday, September 25.
"Governors have taken the decision not to allow the school premises to be used for this program," St Monica’s High School in Bury Borough, Manchester, said in a letter to students' parents.

The school will not take part in a national scheme that offers girls aged 12 and 13 protection against the sexually-transmitted human papilloma virus (HPV), which is linked to cervical cancer.

The vaccine is given in three injections over six months.

"We do not believe that school is the right place for the three injections to be administered," governors at St Monica's said in a letter to the parents of its 1,200 pupils.

The school denied that the ban is linked to moral objections raised previously by one of the governors that immunizing young girls would encourage sexual promiscuity.

Speaking about the pilot scheme last year, school governor Monsignor John Allen claimed pupils were being used as "guinea pigs."

Irresponsible

The school's move was condemned as irresponsible by health officials.

"We are disturbed that the school is not allowing vaccinations on its premises," said Peter Elton, Bury's director of public health.

"We know this will reduce the number of girls who take up the vaccines and will put them at higher risk in later life of contracting cervical cancer."

Medical evidence indicates that vaccinating against HPV, which is responsible for 70 percent of cervical cancers, could save the lives of an estimated 400 women each year in the UK.

Each year, 2,700 cases are diagnosed with HPV across Britain and more than 1,000 women die from the disease.

Elton said that no matter what the motive, the governors' decision remains "unbalanced" and "unjustified".

"They [the governors] recognize it as a very effective vaccine but they have these other concerns and we think they are not justified."

http://www.islamonline.net/servlet/Satellite?c=Article_C&cid=1221720335378&pagename=Zone-English-News/NWELayout

oh wow religious people

doing somewhat crazy things

yeah this is worth posting a topic about really

JC Denton wrote on Sep 26^th, 2008 at 3:02pm:

oh wow religious people doing somewhat crazy things yeah this is worth posting a topic about really

If your not interested then don't read it.

If the catholic objection has to do with discouraging promiscuity, then they have the right to deny the treatment as promiscuity is frowned upon in Christian Faith.

If christians obey Abraham's God, then they will have no issue with promiscuity or cervical cancer and can get the vacination set 6 mths prior to marriage.

If the parents disagree and expect their daughters to persue sex prior to marriage then they can persue the vacination via their GP.

When dealing with religous folks, there religion must be respected irrespective of Secular perspectives. The only exception to this is where the situation is immediately life threatening and the religion is in conflict with the hypocratic oath... such as JW's disinclination towards blood transfusions.

that's a laugh lestat.
your sex crazed paedophile prophet used to shag his whole harem in a night often. prob as well as his baby bride.
Wonder if her kept her for last ??

He must have spread more STDs than most people.

Yeah I don't see a problem with this. What are the risks associated with this vaccine anyway?

They said it's not on moral grounds anyway. Probably is though.

I can't see why it would be on an Islamic website. Are they still trying to deflect the evil done in their name by showing Catholics aren't helping their students by immunising them against a sexual disease? Shouldn't they be encouraging this? I mean, it can discourage them from having sex!

Whatever.

Sprintcyclist wrote on Sep 26^th, 2008 at 9:53pm:

that's a laugh lestat. your sex crazed paedophile prophet used to shag his whole harem in a night often. prob as well as his baby bride. Wonder if her kept her for last ?? He must have spread more STDs than most people.

lol...a Christian accusing other religons of practising peodaphilia...now there's the pot calling the kettle black.

Tell me sprint...did your priest ever help you with 'oral' confession. :) After all...we all know how your christian priests have a preference to 'oral' with little boys..of course the confession is just a means to an end.

Just because it happens doesn't mean it's sanctioned Lestat.

I guess you are too dumb to realise that.

easel wrote on Sep 26^th, 2008 at 10:42pm:

Just because it happens doesn't mean it's sanctioned Lestat. I guess you are too dumb to realise that.

Perhaps not sanctioned..but by covering it up and denying the victims justice...its almost just as bad.

Point still stands...Chritians are the last people to accuse other religons of practising paedophila. The clergy is full of paedophiles.

So is scouts, the education department, the medical profession, junior sporting groups, and just about everywhere else. They are in a lot of places.

I wouldn't say any of these things are 'full' of pedophiles though.

What's your point?

easel wrote on Sep 26^th, 2008 at 11:08pm:

So is scouts, the education department, the medical profession, junior sporting groups, and just about everywhere else. They are in a lot of places. I wouldn't say any of these things are 'full' of pedophiles though. What's your point?

Oh dear....are you having more trouble reading posts weasel. Look at my post above..I rather clearly state my point.

My point is 'Christians are the last people who can accuse other religons of practising paedophila.'

None of those examples you listed above are religons..are they. Its sad that the very same people who are relied on to give 'spiritual guidance' are the very same people that are 'guiding' young children to their knees.

Christians can accuse anyone of being a pedophile. I'd say Christians deplore such barbaric acts.

I was trying to say that pedophiles are everywhere, and are not exclusive to Christianity.

I guess you aren't smart enough to grasp that simple concept Lestat?

easel wrote on Sep 26^th, 2008 at 11:28pm:

Christians can accuse anyone of being a pedophile. I'd say Christians deplore such barbaric acts. I was trying to say that pedophiles are everywhere, and are not exclusive to Christianity. I guess you aren't smart enough to grasp that simple concept Lestat?

Once again weasel moving the goal posts. Of course paedophiles are everywhere...however in the context of this conversation this is irrelevant.

And considering that you had to ask me what my point was immediately one post after I clearly told you what my point was...indicates that it is in fact you that is not so smart.

Sprint made an accusation...considering that he practises a religon which has thousands of paedophile priests who have abused thousands of boys world wide....he is in no position to be making these statements..and it is amazingly hypocritical that he does so.

Obvouisly your pea sized brains can't follow...so I give up. Shouldn't you be off deleting posts or something.

Lestat I know I'm not smart.

Unlike yourself, however, I don't (falsely) claim to be.

Your point makes no sense. Why should Christians be the last people to be accusing pedophiles?

By your reasoning, Muslims should be the last ones to be accusing others of terrorism.

Viva la Israel and the Zionist Jews!

easel wrote on Sep 26^th, 2008 at 11:41pm:

Your point makes no sense. Why should Christians be the last people to be accusing pedophiles?

oh dear...really weasel...I know you just admitted that you are not smart....but fair dinkum, take a moment to actually read what I say before you make yourself look foolish.

I never said Christians should be the last people to be accusing paedophiles.

I said...."Chritians are the last people to accuse other religons of practising paedophila."

Do you understand the difference. I can't believe that I have to explain to you what is crystal clear to anyone with half a brain.

Of course Christians can accuse someon of being a  paedophile..anyone can. However, for a Christian to attack another religon (not another person...just in case you still don't get it) for paedophilia is hypocricy...and a clear case of a pot calling the kettle black. (do you also need me to explain this term to you?)

Yes Lestat, can you please explain it to me?

easel wrote on Sep 26^th, 2008 at 11:52pm:

Yes Lestat, can you please explain it to me?

Go and google it. Your stupidity has worn me out.

Google what? I don't understand what you are trying to explain to me. If you can define it then maybe I can try?

Patience is a virtue Lestat.

Well I can see Lestat has been off his medication again. ;)

In the big game of "My God is Better than Yours", Islam is still without an effective striker.

Lestat shoots with a crack about paedophile priests, a telling blow aimed at catholics, who have no excuse for maintaining their sick system of perversion, and it looks like it is going to be a goal for Islam, but no, Sprint comes in late and deflects it with a quip about the pervert prophet, OOOH! that's gonna hurt. The christians are now mounting a counter attack, don't tell us about perverts, your big poobah had wives in the double digits, and that is referring to how many, not their AGE, and he had concubines, which is a legitimised shag if you are a big poobah, but when his adopted son married a real hottie, he could not help himself, he had his son divorce his new bride, and took her for himself, and Bang, it's in the net.

Well the Islam fans are calling offside, but only the blind and stupid will not accept it is a clean shot.

mozzaok wrote on Sep 27^th, 2008 at 9:00am:

Well I can see Lestat has been off his medication again. ;) In the big game of "My God is Better than Yours", Islam is still without an effective striker. Lestat shoots with a crack about paedophile priests, a telling blow aimed at catholics, who have no excuse for maintaining their sick system of perversion, and it looks like it is going to be a goal for Islam, but no, Sprint comes in late and deflects it with a quip about the pervert prophet, OOOH! that's gonna hurt. The christians are now mounting a counter attack, don't tell us about perverts, your big poobah had wives in the double digits, and that is referring to how many, not their AGE, and he had concubines, which is a legitimised shag if you are a big poobah, but when his adopted son married a real hottie, he could not help himself, he had his son divorce his new bride, and took her for himself, and Bang, it's in the net. Well the Islam fans are calling offside, but only the blind and stupid will not accept it is a clean shot.

And that was Mozz Aok reporting from Armageddon stadium on a rather staid match between the Christian Soldiers and Islam United.

And just in… There are reports this morning that Sprint has been talking with Islam United about joining the side. Apparently the Christian Soldiers are happy to release him as early as they can, so any delays in the move will be down to haggling over contractual terms. It is well known that Sprint wants to keep his crucifix in the closet and this is bound to be an issue over at Islam but knowing Sprint’s mercurial relationship with IU, he will no doubt be playing hard ball about his terms.

We’ll bring you more on that story as it comes to hand.

Nice one Helian.  ;)

Lol, good one helian, and actually it is mozza, ok?, but if A Ok works for you, that is fine with me.

I reckon there is as much chance of Sprint playing for Islam United as we have of hearing a moderate muslim being openly applauded by muslims.

I think it far more likely to see him playing for AC(Atheists City) than switching to another faith based team.

mozzaok wrote on Sep 27^th, 2008 at 11:16am:

Lol, good one helian, and actually it is mozza, ok?, but if A Ok works for you, that is fine with me. I reckon there is as much chance of Sprint playing for Islam United as we have of hearing a moderate muslim being openly applauded by muslims. I think it far more likely to see him playing for AC(Atheists City) than switching to another faith based team.

And with us in the studio to discuss Sprint’s possible move to IU is Mozza Ok, sorry for getting your name wrong Mozz… I’m new to SBS.

During the break, Mozza was telling us that he thought rumours of Sprint’s move are just that, and unsubstantiated. He also said that a move to Atheists City is more likely. And this despite Sprint’s obvious fascination with IU. So, Mozza, while some here have put a lot of credence on the early reports,  could you tell us why you’re more sure of AC for Sprint than IU?

Benedict, manager of AC Vatican expresses interest in sprint as a possible new signing.

hahah, that was particularily good guys !!!

10/10 all round.

Classic Liberal wrote on Sep 29^th, 2008 at 11:05pm:

Benedict, manager of AC Vatican expresses interest in sprint as a possible new signing.

Not sure about that one, Pender... Players at Vatican City are taught to respect and despise Atheist City... their manager, Benedict, is on record as condemning their playing style and club philosophy... I think he's even suggested at one time that AC shouldn't even be in the league... I'd even be so bold as to suggest that Benedict would be more happy to see his own players at VC defect to IU than AC...

If religious and private schools get tax payer money then they should have to play by the secular rules.

What rules?

freediver wrote on Oct 6^th, 2008 at 6:02pm:

What rules?

State based education laws.

If you want a wacko indoctrination institute with anti-cancer and pro-creation stuff enjoy funding it privately instead of taking the majority of the money taxed (from everyone) for 'education'.

They are not breaking any laws. they have to obey laws, regardless of whether they recieve government funding.

freediver wrote on Oct 6^th, 2008 at 6:18pm:

They are not breaking any laws. they have to obey laws, regardless of whether they recieve government funding.

Ok then standardise health regulations across the board and put them into law. It shouldn't be compulsory for anyone to take the vaccine obviously but the institution, if in the public arena, regardless of faith should have to at least offer it along with other beneficial health schemes.

Its a sad fact that even schools don't accept the things technology and science can do nowadays. Even to save lives.

Lestat wrote on Sep 26^th, 2008 at 2:20pm:

Looks like some things never change. Catholics still impeding science and technological advances...will these backwards people ever start living in the 21st Century. ;)

didn't you know that god gobbers will tell you that suffering is a good thing as long as it's not them doing the suffering of course ;)

freediver wrote on Oct 6^th, 2008 at 6:18pm:

They are not breaking any laws. they have to obey laws, regardless of whether they recieve government funding.

they should not let their irrational dogma get in then way of progress. We are not back in the days of Galileo under house arrest :(

Also I strongly believe that religious schools should not get any tax payer funding. If they need material money then let them pray to their imaginary God for what they need and see if their God really answers their prayers ;) LOL