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Message started by tallowood on Oct 2nd, 2008 at 8:35am

Title: To the forum's Moslems
Post by tallowood on Oct 2nd, 2008 at 8:35am
Happy end of Ramadan and a Merry Eid.

Title: Re: To the forum's Moslems
Post by abu_rashid on Oct 2nd, 2008 at 10:07am
Thanks but no thanks.

When it comes from the same mouth as this kind of filth, it seems a little insincere don't you think?


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And hey, you trying to do it again so I reply to you again you put Islam in poo because of people like you I'm going to use Koran as toilet paper.



Title: Re: To the forum's Moslems
Post by sprintcyclist on Oct 2nd, 2008 at 4:33pm

I hope you have learnt your lesson here tallow.


Enjoy your feast abu

Title: Re: To the forum's Moslems
Post by easel on Oct 2nd, 2008 at 4:58pm
Proper Lebanese food is THE BEST.

I will say that much. Not corner store Lebbo, but Leb restaurant.

Title: Re: To the forum's Moslems
Post by tallowood on Oct 2nd, 2008 at 8:28pm

Sprintcyclist wrote on Oct 2nd, 2008 at 4:33pm:
I hope you have learnt your lesson here tallow.

Enjoy your feast abu


Which lesson that may be?

As for abu, it is free country and if he prefers to have Eid sad rather then merry just because he doesn't like my attitudes towards personal abuse he may do as he wishes.




Title: Re: To the forum's Moslems
Post by abu_rashid on Oct 2nd, 2008 at 10:00pm

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Which lesson that may be?


Knowing sprint, probably something along the lines of "See, you be nice to one of those bloody muslims, and they spit it back in your face".


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just because he doesn't like my attitudes towards personal abuse he may do as he wishes.


Personal abuse is a personal matter between you and the person who you were bickering with, nothing to do with my religion. When you start bringing my religion into it, and writing such disgusting sacriligious things about the book I consider the word of God, then I've got no need to hear well wishing and merriment from you.

Title: Re: To the forum's Moslems
Post by sprintcyclist on Oct 3rd, 2008 at 8:11am
yes abu. We all realise how intransigent you are.


Title: Re: To the forum's Moslems
Post by muso on Oct 9th, 2008 at 2:47pm
Eid Mubarak guys :)


Title: Re: To the forum's Moslems
Post by abu_rashid on Oct 9th, 2008 at 2:49pm

Thanks muso :)

Title: Re: To the forum's Moslems
Post by pender on Oct 9th, 2008 at 7:27pm
i assume you did fast abu, if that is the case congratulations, its never easy.

Title: Re: To the forum's Moslems
Post by freediver on Oct 9th, 2008 at 7:35pm
I did a 24 hour fast once. I visited a mate's place in the afternoon, towards the end of the fast. His dad had just baked a batch of fresh home made saussage rolls. He pulled them out and waved them in front of me. For some reason it didn't bother me. I think I was passed being hungry then anyway and felt normal again. I'm not a big fan of sausage rolls though.

Title: Re: To the forum's Moslems
Post by pender on Oct 9th, 2008 at 7:38pm

freediver wrote on Oct 9th, 2008 at 7:35pm:
I did a 24 hour fast once. I visited a mate's place in the afternoon, towards the end of the fast. His dad had just baked a batch of fresh home made saussage rolls. He pulled them out and waved them in front of me. For some reason it didn't bother me. I think I was passed being hungry then anyway and felt normal again. I'm not a big fan of sausage rolls though.


thats a great story freediver

Title: Re: To the forum's Moslems
Post by muso on Oct 10th, 2008 at 1:31pm

freediver wrote on Oct 9th, 2008 at 7:35pm:
I did a 24 hour fast once.


Ramadan is not that much of a hardship. You can't eat during sunlight hours, that's about it. When I was in Tanzania, I used to partake in the Iftar, which is a very heavy, usually deep fried meal (and very tasty). We had some kind of variation on spicy fish balls with a kind of batter.

I quite often have breakfast before sunrise, skip lunch because I'm too busy and then don't eat until about 7pm - but that's because I've been going through a busy period at work.  

Title: Re: To the forum's Moslems
Post by sprintcyclist on Oct 10th, 2008 at 2:27pm
freedive - yes, during a fast, things happen like that

apparently during ramadan many muslims put on weight.
The fasting during day stops thier metabolism, then a feast at night is too much food. Esp just before sleeping.

It is bad for the body. to starve it, then flood it with food repeatedly.


But, hope you enjoyed it anyway.

Title: Re: To the forum's Moslems
Post by jordan484 on Oct 10th, 2008 at 3:57pm

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spicy fish balls


Mmmmmmmm...........sounds DEEElightful!  ;D

Title: Re: To the forum's Moslems
Post by abu_rashid on Oct 10th, 2008 at 10:45pm

pender,

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i assume you did fast abu, if that is the case congratulations, its never easy.


Of course I did. Whilst I wouldn't say it's easy, it's not really as hard as one might imagine. Especially nowadays when Ramadan is completely outside of daylight savings. My first Ramadan was when it was in the middle of summer, and we didn't break fast till about 9.00, and it was really hot, thirst was much worse than hunger. But still not that hard. It's about self-disclipine, and it truly teaches you a lot.

As an example, I gave up smoking on my first day of fasting. I'd tried so many times previously, and failed every single time, and really wanted to quit. Fasting in Ramadan taught me how to do it within one single day.

sprint,

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It is bad for the body. to starve it, then flood it with food repeatedly.


And let me guess, pork is the healthiest meat, right?
There is nothing to support the idea that fasting is harmful to the body, and there's plenty of evidence to support that it's quite beneficial to the soul. You should try it one day. It is a part of the  Judaeo-Christian tradition also you know.. even though you've rejected most of that in order to have your own personal freedom.

Title: Re: To the forum's Moslems
Post by sprintcyclist on Oct 10th, 2008 at 10:58pm
abu - well done on kicking the nicotine habit. Nicotine is the most addictive drug.

I have fasted quite a few times.
my original statements stand.

Title: Re: To the forum's Moslems
Post by jordan484 on Oct 10th, 2008 at 11:06pm

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There is nothing to support the idea that fasting is harmful to the body, and there's plenty of evidence to support that it's quite beneficial to the soul.

Feeding the body when it needs the energy (breakfast before the day begins) is healthier than feeding the body when it is about to sleep, when it does not require the energy and most of it will turn to fat. That's nutrition 101, abu. You want to fast because of some ridiculous Islamic tradition, then feel free to do so, but have the stones to admit is it not healthy for the body.....and questionable for the "soul".

Title: Re: To the forum's Moslems
Post by abu_rashid on Oct 11th, 2008 at 7:19am

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Feeding the body when it needs the energy (breakfast before the day begins) is healthier than feeding the body when it is about to sleep


Since Muslims don't eat then immediately sleep during Ramadan, your viewpoint is irrelevant. Also to suggest that the energy you receive from food is immediately distributed into your body when it's digested just indicates you've got no idea about metabolism whatsoever.

Muslims break fast at sunset, and roughly 1 and half hours later they attend mosques and begin evening prayers that often last several hours (and require quite a bit of stamina).

Title: Re: To the forum's Moslems
Post by sprintcyclist on Oct 11th, 2008 at 10:32am
Now see, I was going to ask a question.
But the last one I asked incorrectly and was refuted.

So now I can't.

Title: Re: To the forum's Moslems
Post by jordan484 on Oct 13th, 2008 at 10:17am
Was [mod: use posterior if you have a genuine need to refer to this part of the human anatomy] offensive? Or was it something else? Reason for deletion thanks.

Title: Re: To the forum's Moslems
Post by abu_rashid on Oct 13th, 2008 at 10:24am

Yes slang words for parts of the human anatomy are considered offensive in this forum, and don't cry that you're being suppressed and unfairly censored, Lestat has also been moderated for this before. It's in the forum guidelines, keep it clean, no potty talk.

Also the fact you used it to describe a sacred action like prayer is doubly offensive.

If you're genuinely here to discuss this issue, then just use more respectful terms and descriptions, if you're just here (as usual) to incite discord and strife, then you know where the door is. We have no need whatsoever for such disrespectful input.

Title: Re: To the forum's Moslems
Post by jordan484 on Oct 13th, 2008 at 10:45am
Listen abu, you need to pull your head in and know that some terms that you may find offensive are not offensive to me, and that doesn't make me immoral or anything else, it just makes me different to you. I also do not find your prayers sacred. I do, however, understand I am in a highly regulated and censored forum, and I expect to be informed regularly on what may or may not be appropriate terminology, but you can do so with a little grace and a lot less smugness and indignation, and have the courtesy to tell me what has been censored and why.

Title: Re: To the forum's Moslems
Post by jordan484 on Oct 13th, 2008 at 10:48am
Anyway, what I was saying was that jogging requires stamina, but placing one's posterior in the air and cranium on the floor does not.

Title: Re: To the forum's Moslems
Post by abu_rashid on Oct 13th, 2008 at 10:57am


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Listen abu, you need to pull your head in and know that some terms that you may find offensive are not offensive to me, and that doesn't make me immoral or anything else, it just makes me different to you


Either way, it''s the rule here, accept it or don't.


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Anyway, what I was saying was that jogging requires stamina, but placing one's posterior in the air and cranium on the floor does not.


Since Muslim prayer doesn't just involve prostration, your estimation is invalid. And even if it did, don't you think remaining in a position of prostration for a few hours might be a little tiring? You don't have to jog to burn up energy.

Title: Re: To the forum's Moslems
Post by jordan484 on Oct 13th, 2008 at 11:02am

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Either way, it''s the rule here, accept it or don't.

Read the rest of my post, genius. Your response was unnecessary.

Jogging requires more stamina than praying, but you can think what you like if it makes you feel better.

Title: Re: To the forum's Moslems
Post by abu_rashid on Oct 13th, 2008 at 11:28am


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Jogging requires more stamina than praying, but you can think what you like if it makes you feel better.


And nowhere did I state anything contrary to this...

Title: Re: To the forum's Moslems
Post by jordan484 on Oct 13th, 2008 at 11:29am
Good-oh for you.

Title: Re: To the forum's Moslems
Post by Gaybriel on Oct 13th, 2008 at 11:58am

jordan484 wrote on Oct 13th, 2008 at 11:29am:
Good-oh for you.


lol- you really are determined to be combative aren't you?

Title: Re: To the forum's Moslems
Post by jordan484 on Oct 13th, 2008 at 12:00pm
gaybriel, I have read you over on muslim village for a long time, you are intelligent and balanced, but don't sell yourself short here and start defending the indefensible.

Title: Re: To the forum's Moslems
Post by Gaybriel on Oct 13th, 2008 at 12:02pm

jordan484 wrote on Oct 13th, 2008 at 12:00pm:
gaybriel, I have read you over on muslim village for a long time, you are intelligent and balanced, but don't sell yourself short here and start defending the indefensible.


well that's sweet jordan- but do you really see me saying anything here that I have not said on muslim village? in sentiment I mean- my expression is perhaps more...well...rude here :P

what do you see as indefensible? praying? islam? muslims? the mods?

Title: Re: To the forum's Moslems
Post by jordan484 on Oct 13th, 2008 at 12:04pm
You know what is indefensible. I'm going to assume those questions were rhetorical.

Title: Re: To the forum's Moslems
Post by Gaybriel on Oct 13th, 2008 at 12:14pm

jordan484 wrote on Oct 13th, 2008 at 12:04pm:
You know what is indefensible. I'm going to assume those questions were rhetorical.


I actually don't man- sorry. I'm not trying to be smart. I am asking a genuine question.

Title: Re: To the forum's Moslems
Post by abu_rashid on Oct 13th, 2008 at 1:29pm


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what do you see as indefensible? praying? islam? muslims? the mods?


2 and 3 specifically I think he considers indefensible (ie. Islam and Muslims), 1 is a part of 2 anyway and all of 4 are 3, so they're all indefensible!! :)

Title: Re: To the forum's Moslems
Post by sprintcyclist on Oct 13th, 2008 at 1:43pm

islam is indefensible.
prayings and muslims are ok.
the mods here are indefensible too !!



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