Grendel was quality. I am petitioning you FD to bring him back. Why would you ban him and not someone like Lestat?

I didn't make the poll, Phil did.

what the? who said he was banned and if so..unban him definitely.

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Grendel was quality. I am petitioning you FD to bring him back.

FD - have you banned Grendel?  You've made a mistake - he has behaved no differently to the way he did on Cracker and you accepted him there.

Obviously you can do what you want - but this isn't justified.

is it just a suspension to make a point or a permanent ban?
I've been suspended..its usually 2 days to begin with.

I dont get why he was banned at all.

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is it just a suspension to make a point or a permanent ban?

I doubt it would make a difference Oceanz.  Even if he was only suspended - I doubt he would be back.

If he was..its a bad call by FD and completely not fair....

easel wrote on Oct 13^th, 2008 at 6:44pm:

Grendel was quality. I am petitioning you FD to bring him back. Why would you ban him and not someone like Lestat?

??????

What, where?

May be it was a suicide?

Suicide is pretty scary.

Imagine getting murdered and having it set up to look like a suicide so your friends and family think you offed yourself.

That's my biggest fear.

easel wrote on Oct 13^th, 2008 at 8:11pm:

Suicide is pretty scary. Imagine getting murdered and having it set up to look like a suicide so your friends and family think you offed yourself. That's my biggest fear.

I'd just downloaded "The Peaceful Pill Handbook" by Dr Philip Nitschke
& Dr Fiona Stewart. It became available today in e-format.
Going to read it and start discussion.

easel - what makes you think grendal was banned ??

I'ld be surprised.

easel wrote on Oct 13^th, 2008 at 6:44pm:

Grendel was quality. I am petitioning you FD to bring him back. Why would you ban him and not someone like Lestat?

lestat is a pain in the ghoulies I agree easel.

( if i had ghoulies that is)

Sprintcyclist wrote on Oct 13^th, 2008 at 8:43pm:

easel - what makes you think grendal was banned ?? I'ld be surprised.

I have a little deal with Grendel where he emails me articles that he has written, and if I like them I disseminate them around the internet, unedited and attributed.

He emailed me this evening telling me he got banned from ozpolitic.

What's the story F/D ?

Did you ban him ?
I'm on grendals side

I'm on no one's side.  I would merely like to be informed.

As usual Freediver runs away and does not answer your questions.

But i cant see anywhere that he's banned. What are you lot on about?

Grendal was an excellent contributor and is one of the reasons this board has become fairly popular.

Major, major, major mistake on your part if you really have banned him, FD. Even if he does insult people quite a bit, you should give him some allowance. That's just simply his style and we're all aware of it (I hope after all this time people are aware that he doesn't mean offense by it and is just scrambling to get his point across).

At least he engages in debate and does not pointlessly insult like most trolls do.

He's an original thinker and he has a good political brain. Creates interest in topics people would never usually spit on. Unban him, ask him to come back, get on your hands and knees and beg him for forgiveness.

Well it cant be true, look at the obvious- I'm still here. :-?

Phil, how did you add the poll? I thought you had to be thread starter or a moderator to do that.

I'm special :D

Ok, my situational awareness is lacking. Anyone can do it. Or at least I can.

where the page numbers are and ''print'' and ''notification'' tabs are located you will find ''add poll''.

I agree with everything DT said about Grendel - it's just his way and he brings a bit of life to a debate.

My personal opinion - no-one here now should be banned from this forum.  There is a very good mix of people.  

There was only one poster who should have been banned for unacceptable behaviour.  It took about 2 years and dozens of complaints - and there are plenty of witnesses to attest to that.

I am no fan of banning people, but I did request cracker ban "purple, mad mel, IQs," or whatever they called themselves on the day, but that was for their action in posting pornographic pictures to go along with their revolting opinions, apart from extremes like that, I really think people should be given a go to express their views, even if we find them personally distasteful.

Now FD is pretty much of a similiar mind, from what he has shown, so unless Beo(Grendel) did something over the top, as another attention grabber(he is an insecure little petal), then I could not imagine FD banning him.

I agree with everyone else, we all have the right to show up boofy for the goose he is, if you have banned him fd, youve removed our chance of showing him the error of his ways.

YYYYeeeeeeeeeeehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhaaaaaaaaaaa

I got a vote !!

(Even if I did vote for myself)

I was just having a laugh (sorry) at some of the Muslim and anti-Muslim insults - most of the time they are so inoccuous yet the recipients and perpetrators become so indignant.

If you didn't have opposing views on certain subjects - the threads would be very boring.

mantra - yes, I rarely read the islamic threads now.
very repeatitive.

I don't know if they're repetitive Sprintcyclist - I'm guilty of only reading bits and pieces at times.  I have to admit I skip over some of the more technical/historical posts and that applies to a few different boards on Ozpolitics.

But I think most of the arguing here is pretty healthy.  Even if you disagree with a person's views you are learning to understand why they have them.  

I notice the pple on that poll are the most interesting and the very ones who add a bit of life to the forum..Why get rid of those who create interest and bring others in.?

Do we want a bland bunch of yes boring old yes men.?

It had become an old boys club until certain posters decided to post again...so Im puzzled why a good poster would be banned for adding interest and sometimes a good laugh to certain topics.

we know grendel..he doesnt offend us FD..so why..?

Typically FD will not reply to any of this.

And in defence of FD I have to say he is not an unfair man, never found him to be so in the past and he must have his reasons..Ill maintain that veiw if the ban is only temp.

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I notice the pple on that poll are the most interesting and the very ones who add a bit of life to the forum..Why get rid of those who create interest and bring others in.?

Are you trying to say the rest of us are boring Oceanz?  :o


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Do we want a bland bunch of yes boring old yes men.?

That's not a very nice thing to say.  I'm sure there's some young boring yes men here as well.  Joking.


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And in defence of FD I have to say he is not an unfair man, never found him to be so in the past and he must have his reasons

Yes that is true, but maybe Easel's up to his/her trick's again.

The anti-Islam posts are basically boring schoolboy humour. I don't even read them any more. Why can't people just learn to respect their mutual differences?

I am a strong believer in 'give them enough rope', unless it's something that causes offense or is illegal. Posting pornographic images would be an example.

If Easel is up to his old tricks..I dont see the point.

I see lestat is in the lead. Maybe he can come in and brag about that too.

.

Yeah, I'm kind of peeved I'm not on the list.  :P

I think it's just a bit of fun, not to be taken too seriously.

jordan484 wrote on Oct 14^th, 2008 at 9:54am:

Yeah, I'm kind of peeved I'm not on the list.  :P I think it's just a bit of fun, not to be taken too seriously.

I call it somethuing else and fun is not part of that description.

Can others have a bit of fun with it even if you don't see it that way? Or are you more like our muslims here and demand we all see things their way?

jordan484 wrote on Oct 14^th, 2008 at 10:01am:

Can others have a bit of fun with it even if you don't see it that way? Or are you more like our muslims here and demand we all see things their way?

this thread is about grendel Jordan..why bring it back to Muslims mate?

You right there?

drat - looks like lestat has an unassailable lead.

oceanz wrote on Oct 14^th, 2008 at 10:08am:

jordan484 wrote on Oct 14th, 2008 at 10:01am: Can others have a bit of fun with it even if you don't see it that way? Or are you more like our muslims here and demand we all see things their way? this thread is about grendel Jordan..why bring it back to Muslims mate? You right there?

You reminded me a little of the way they like things to be, that's all.

Yes - phil and oceanz have made a late charge for the line.

Looks like lestat is tiring.

it WILL be an exciting finish !!!

yes it is getting rather excting..what does the winner get?

Sprintcyclist wrote on Oct 14^th, 2008 at 10:52am:

Yes - phil and oceanz have made a late charge for the line. Looks like lestat is tiring. it WILL be an exciting finish !!!

Reminds me of the Derek & Clive sketch where Peter Cook is calling a horse race. Very rude but very funny.  
(on Youtube under 'Peter Cook & Dudley Moore'. Look it up at your own risks ...)

A rank outsider races up !!!

Tallowood has come from nowhere, she is now neck and neck with lestat and phil !!!
Oceanz appears top have tired
it's too close to call.

Calling for the photo finish

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A rank outsider races up !!! Tallowood has come from nowhere, she is now neck and neck with lestat and phil !!! Oceanz appears top have tired it's too close to call. Calling for the photo finish

Those comments had me in hysterics.  I hope no-one is taking this poll seriously.

I think its just reflective of the impact I have made..at least Ive made one and thats a relief.
go me
::)

its rediculous..

what has tallowood ever done to anyone?

Grendel gone already?
That's a big spew [insert spew emoticon here]

I didn't even get a chance to have a stoush with him  :'(

I did notice FD berating him for being insulting to the members, but hey, most people know that BO can't go out to check the mail without insulting somebody on the way to the letterbox.

If I'd been around here a bit longer, I might've got my name up there on the ban list. I think I've already earned myself easel's vote....well if I haven't yet, I soon will, because I've got a bone to pick.i

so maybe the winner gets banned.    :)

Yes you may be amadd who knows, but this is a just a list of pple easel doesnt like remember..

My list would have looked different to that ..if I made one ,and  I never would.

Oceanz has streaked home, tallow is still running on strongly.
Oceanz MUST be on steroids by that effort.

The stewards have informed us that there WILL be an inquiry into the running of this race.
It is looking VERY suspicious. Who is putting all the votes in ?

Swabs will be taken from the first 3 runners.  

I didn't make the list. Phil did.

easel wrote on Oct 14^th, 2008 at 2:40pm:

I didn't make the list. Phil did.

ok sorry

how did phil manage that..this is your thread.

Why would he be allowed to do that if its not his thread.

You can add polls to any thread. When you are logged in, above each post you will see a thing saying add poll.

I don't like it but that's the way things are.

Sprintcyclist wrote on Oct 14^th, 2008 at 2:40pm:

Oceanz has streaked home, tallow is still running on strongly. Oceanz MUST be on steroids by that effort. The stewards have informed us that there WILL be an inquiry into the running of this race. It is looking VERY suspicious. Who is putting all the votes in ? Swabs will be taken from the first 3 runners.

thats what Id like to know..doesnt appear we have that many members logged in to give that result.

easel wrote on Oct 14^th, 2008 at 2:43pm:

You can add polls to any thread. When you are logged in, above each post you will see a thing saying add poll. I don't like it but that's the way things are.

Im glad you told me easel..now it makes sense..

The stewarts have conferred with me.
They are calling for a vet or two to do the swabs of the mian suspects.
tallowood and oceanz will be the first to be tested.

So, we need a few volunteer vets to take the body cavity swabs. :-)

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If I'd been around here a bit longer, I might've got my name up there on the ban list. I think I've already earned myself easel's vote....well if I haven't yet, I soon will, because I've got a bone to pick.

You haven't done anything wrong Amadd.  It's just a pity all the posters here couldn't accept each other for their beliefs and posting habits or at least joke a bit more and take some of the disputes a little less seriously.  Sprintcyclist seems the only one left with a sense of humour and others are reluctant to express themselves.  Things are getting grim and it will be extremely disappointing if anyone else gets banned.

Ozpolitics seems to be evolving into an entirely different forum.  There is possibly an explanation for this.

Poor Oceanz & Tallowood - who has done nothing wrong.  How have their poll figures got up so high?

I'm not sure about the body cavity swabs Sprintcyclist - sounds pretty revolting.  

Strange poll results. I didn't even know there were more than 80 active members on these boards. Multiple accounts anyone? Bugs in the system? I've had my multiculturalism poll on a sticky for a whole year and have only gotten 30 votes so far.  

I strongly don't think Tallowood deserved that many votes. Particularly when he seems to be rather observant and analytical with most of his posts.

Oh and by the way... to that solitary person who gave me a vote...

http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c140/jedisentinal/simpsons_nelson_haha2.jpg

Suck fvckin sh1te.

I think you can vote without being logged in.

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Ozpolitics seems to be evolving into an entirely different forum.  There is possibly an explanation for this.

Something to do with too many chiefs and not enough indians?
Well, some that consider themselves to be chiefs anyway.

I always found you to be the best moderator because a few calm words was usually all that was required (except for IQ of course)

Option 3. sounds pretty good to me for the time being.

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I always found you to be the best moderator because a few calm words was usually all that was required (except for IQ of course)

Thanks Amadd - you should see IQ these days - he's a tame little pussy cat.  Aren't you IQ?  :)

easel wrote on Oct 14^th, 2008 at 4:47pm:

I think you can vote without being logged in.

It does look that. Why did Phill make the poll accessible to hacktivist wankers from outside of the forum? TITQ.

Because i'm confident in the outside worlds judgements :D

For some reason oceanZ is waaay out front. ;D

DILLIGAF wrote on Oct 14^th, 2008 at 10:51pm:

For some reason oceanZ is waaay out front. ;D

Looks like some commie computer hacker really hates you Phil. You hit the lead and gained 20 votes in a matter of hours.  :P

I'd like to thank easel for starting the topic and everybody that supported me...  (some surprises there)  :)

I'm now officially unbanned.

Seems fd has seen the error of his ways.

I'd vote 'cept some of the people I'd vote for aren't in the poll.

Grendel wrote on Oct 15^th, 2008 at 7:37am:

I'd like to thank easel for starting the topic and everybody that supported me...  (some surprises there)  :) I'm now officially unbanned. Seems fd has seen the error of his ways. I'd vote 'cept some of the people I'd vote for aren't in the poll.

MMM,I wonder who boofy might vote for?????????

Well you are just a bigoted ignorant pissant squippy... voting for you would just be a waste.

Oh BTW fd I can supply definitions of those terms and justify them if you like.

Grendel wrote on Oct 15^th, 2008 at 8:00am:

Well you are just a bigoted ignorant pissant squippy... voting for you would just be a waste. Oh BTW fd I can supply definitions of those terms and justify them if you like.

Well thanks boof, from a dogturd  like yourself I take that as a compliment.

Woooohoooo!! ;D 1st place.

I love edit :D

Cheat. ;D ;D ;D  We can never trust these polls again.

Phil-

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Woooohoooo!!   ;D1st place.

phil-

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Posted by: Phil. Posted on: Today at 8:23am I love edit   :D

mantra-



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Posted by: mantra Posted on: Today at 8:28am Cheat.  ;D ;D ;D    We can never trust these polls again.

Yes its very funny...glad your all laughing. Ill bet Oceanz and tallowood are too.


So the whole the thing was just a prank and Phil manipulated the results..how clever of him.

GO PHIL.

Well the whole thing wasn't a prank...  I was banned by fd.

If I was lestat I'd have gone whinging to the Mod re your dogturd comment squippy....  good thing I'm not.

Dogturd is that name-calling fd?

As for the polls...  

1/ it'd be good if someone made it so that only the topic initiator can submit a poll.

2/ that only registered members can vote and only once.

DILLIGAF wrote on Oct 14^th, 2008 at 8:27pm:

Because i'm confident in the outside worlds judgements :D

Really :o Is it why you become Lestad? These outside polls are very confusing.

Phil was able to manipulate the numbers also...its clear if you have been taking any notice.

That should stop..NOW.

tallowood wrote on Oct 15^th, 2008 at 9:30am:

DILLIGAF wrote on Oct 14th, 2008 at 8:27pm: Because i'm confident in the outside worlds judgements :D Really :o Is it why you become Lestad? These outside polls are very confusing.

Phil did this talloo..not anyone from outside. Phil gave you the numbers you and Oceanz got. Read back over the last 10 posts.

He should be banned for this.

check your PMs.

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Cheat.        We can never trust these polls again.   Yes its very funny...glad your all laughing. Ill bet Oceanz and tallowood are too. So the whole the thing was just a prank and Phil manipulated the results..how clever of him. GO PHIL.

My apologies for laughing - anonymous moderator.  But it was one of relief knowing that Tallowood and Oceanz wouldn't take it personally.  

Well - the joke's over now and you can fix the problem, but don't deny people from having a laugh - unless that's going to be banned next.

hahhaha, I smelt a conjob somewhere.

grendal - did you really get banned ??
Quite surprising

ah yes sprint...  I did.

(The mod_ has much to answer for for muddying the waters)

I have stated so several times I believe.

mantra wrote on Oct 15^th, 2008 at 9:56am:

Quote: Cheat.        We can never trust these polls again.   Yes its very funny...glad your all laughing. Ill bet Oceanz and tallowood are too. So the whole the thing was just a prank and Phil manipulated the results..how clever of him. GO PHIL. My apologies for laughing - anonymous moderator.  But it was one of relief knowing that Tallowood and Oceanz wouldn't take it personally.   Well - the joke's over now and you can fix the problem, but don't deny people from having a laugh - unless that's going to be banned next.

We shouldn't deny right of people to abuse each other the way they like and beat each other to bloody pulp with all sorts of objects because it is fun and laugh. I agree.  ;D

I was actually suicidal for a short period this year tallowood...  not a place I recommend you going.

Oh and no not over being banned.

Funny how people can say all sorts of innocuous things that can be painful.

tallowood wrote on Oct 15^th, 2008 at 10:16am:

mantra wrote on Oct 15th, 2008 at 9:56am: Quote: Cheat.        We can never trust these polls again.   Yes its very funny...glad your all laughing. Ill bet Oceanz and tallowood are too. So the whole the thing was just a prank and Phil manipulated the results..how clever of him. GO PHIL. My apologies for laughing - anonymous moderator.  But it was one of relief knowing that Tallowood and Oceanz wouldn't take it personally.   Well - the joke's over now and you can fix the problem, but don't deny people from having a laugh - unless that's going to be banned next. We shouldn't deny right of people to abuse each other the way they like and beat each other to bloody pulp with all sorts of objects because it is fun and laugh. I agree.  ;D

Yes I agree tallo..nothing like a good witch hunt/burning at the stake to get the blood going..and yet there are those who think its just so unsporting to not just laugh it off. ....maybe they should be greatful phil didnt rig a poll and do the same to them.


Phil rigged the result mantra...read.

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We shouldn't deny right of people to abuse each other the way they like and beat each other to bloody pulp with all sorts of objects because it is fun and laugh. I agree.   Funny how people can say all sorts of innocuous things that can be painful.

You are both right.  But at least be reassured that people do like you.  The poll was mean and I expressed that view earlier - what's the bet no-one does it again?    

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Yes I agree tallo..nothing like a good witch hunt/burning at the stake to get the blood going..and yet there are those who think its just so unsporting to not just laugh it off. ....maybe they should be greatful phil didnt rig a poll and do the am to them. Phil rigged the result mantra...read.

Yes I know now Oceanz - but I didn't realise Phil was editing the thing until he TOLD THE TRUTH.  

Best thing to do is remove the "laughing" smiley and then we won't be tempted to use it.

Grendel wrote on Oct 15^th, 2008 at 10:21am:

I was actually suicidal for a short period this year tallowood...  not a place I recommend you going. ...

Sorry to hear this, Grendel. I believe lots of people go through this and some do. Hardly worth it when you are young but with old age it becomes a viable and often noble alternative. But I'm not suppose to say all this because it is a crime for adults to talk openly about end
of life issues using the telephone, email, fax or Internet.illegal in Australia.

grendal - yes, glad you are improved now.
Hope you stay here for the foreseeable future.

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Sorry to hear this, Grendel. I believe lots of people go through this and some do. Hardly worth it when you are young but with old age it becomes a viable and often noble alternative. But I'm not suppose to say all this because it is a crime for adults to talk openly about end of life issues using the telephone, email, fax or Internet.illegal in Australia.

Tallowood it's an important subject to talk openly about.  You should take it over to the thread Grendel started on the Relationships Board?  It can be discussed more easily there.

hmmm  shouldn't it be in a new topic mantra?
remember I'm not a Philophobe.

I'll try and think of something effective - unless someone comes up with something better in the meantime.

The Mole wrote on Oct 15^th, 2008 at 9:30am:

Phil was able to manipulate the numbers also...its clear if you have been taking any notice. That should stop..NOW.

My god you are thick!!! I CANNOT MANIPULATE THE NUMBERS! only the names.

Thickhead ::)

There you go Mod_ . That should cheer you up.

DILLIGAF wrote on Oct 15^th, 2008 at 8:52pm:

The Mole wrote on Oct 15th, 2008 at 9:30am: Phil was able to manipulate the numbers also...its clear if you have been taking any notice. That should stop..NOW. My god you are thick!!! I CANNOT MANIPULATE THE NUMBERS! only the names. Thickhead ::)

 Well thats a stupid lie isnt it ausnat/phil?

You've played with names and figures once again..last I lookd you had 20 votes and now its 12 again...and now the names have all changed AGAIN!!!!

Your the one who is thick and it was a malicious stunt..

I thought there was no moderator - I must be hallucinating.

I thought it was a good stunt !!

Only I want to lodge a protest.
I'm on a miserable 6 !!! Come on, double figures at LEAST !!!

Not intending to ruffle any feathers - but why is it necessary to lie about a simple thing like moderating a particular board?

Oceanz - it's no problem with me what part you play in running this forum - but at least be honest about it.  

Obviously I've upset FD somewhere along the way - because he doesn't bother responding to my PM's anymore.  I opted out of the hunting forum because I didn't want to say something I regretted and I apologise for anything that I said to upset the hunters.

It's got to the stage that so many members can't even say what they want because the threat of being banned hangs over your head.  

You know you can do whatever you want FD - but it's not fair that so many have to make compromises in what they write - yet others can say whatever they please.

This is the last time I'm going to be so polite.

Mantra the only person I will discuss a member's status with is the member themselves. I think I have made the rules clear enough without having to make a spectacle of banned members.

If you think someone has posted something inappropriate, tell me. Don't sit there fretting that they are getting away with it while others aren't.

mantra wrote on Oct 17^th, 2008 at 11:34am:

Not intending to ruffle any feathers - but why is it necessary to lie about a simple thing like moderating a particular board? Oceanz - it's no problem with me what part you play in running this forum - but at least be honest about it.   Obviously I've upset FD somewhere along the way - because he doesn't bother responding to my PM's anymore.  I opted out of the hunting forum because I didn't want to say something I regretted and I apologise for anything that I said to upset the hunters. It's got to the stage that so many members can't even say what they want because the threat of being banned hangs over your head.   You know you can do whatever you want FD - but it's not fair that so many have to make compromises in what they write - yet others can say whatever they please. This is the last time I'm going to be so polite.

mantra your very sweet and I sincerely mean that but Im not the mod, as well you know.

Not of this board anyway.

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If you think someone has posted something inappropriate, tell me. Don't sit there fretting that they are getting away with it while others aren't

How often have I complained to you FD - very rarely.   I accept what people write and try to respond honestly.

I have been here since the inception of Ozpolitics and on request have tried to help you out - but your personal dislikes are getting in the way of what could be a good forum.  Also don't worry about banning me - I'm gone.  

Mantra perhaps it would be better if you did complain rather than keeping it bottled up. Everyone has trouble with the rules once it gets down to the details of what is and isn't appropriate, because everyone comes here with different ideas on what people should and shouldn't be allowed to get away with. Only by bringing the issue up will you be able to either draw my attention to a problem or understand why I allow certain things.

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You know you can do whatever you want FD - but it's not fair that so many have to make compromises in what they write - yet others can say whatever they please.

This applies mainly to member boards..and the arguement has spilled over into feedback and including the whole forum, the compalints about it Imean.

Grendel was the only one banned by FD..he graciously allowed him back because we asked him to..I dont see that as in anyway unfair.

Members in here are adults and should be able to exercise some restraint if they value being able to participate..With no rules its chaos,and whatever set of rules he applied, there would always be someoone with something to say about it .

Who would come here if it were open season..he has a big forum to run.

Maybe we SHOULD pay a membership for all the time FD  puts in here..but that idea went down like a lead balloon.

.........

mantra wrote on Oct 17^th, 2008 at 12:54pm:

Can't resist this.  Oceanz & FD - GFYS!

What's going on Mantra? Why are you so angry all of a sudden?

mantra wrote on Oct 17^th, 2008 at 12:54pm:

Can't resist this.  Oceanz & FD - GFYS!

I hope your feeling better soon mantra.   :-[

Way to GO mantra !!!!!!!!!!!!


Love your work :-)

ex-member DonaldTrump wrote on Oct 15^th, 2008 at 3:41am:

DILLIGAF wrote on Oct 14th, 2008 at 10:51pm: For some reason oceanZ is waaay out front. ;D Looks like some commie computer hacker really hates you Phil. You hit the lead and gained 20 votes in a matter of hours.  :P

ditto

see poll which stands currently at 12 for phil

therefore I was the "winner" of a rigged poll.

oceanz wrote on Oct 17^th, 2008 at 1:00pm:

[quote author=mantra link=1223887478/90#103 date=1224212093]Can't resist this.  Oceanz & FD - GFYS!

I hope your feeling better soon mantra.   :-[/quote]

Your most endearing quality oceanZ is that you are sickly sweet towards mantra when being bitchy and spiteful towards her at the same time. I've seen it countless times. It's a lovely aspect of you and I admire it.

Your most endearing quality easel is that you are openly confused regarding wether you male or female ( which means you are an hemophrodite )whilst being a control nazi at the same time ..



You know nothing of my relationship with mantra..so keep your troublemaking comments to yourself. Ive posted alongside mantra a long time now, its normal to fall out occasionally.

Your upset I sided with amadd..get over it.

Mantra can tell me to get f@cked if she wants ( and I will  ;) ) and its none of your business, dont be be an interfering obnoxious busybody..but from what ive seen around the board you cant help it.

I'm not confused whether I am male or female, but I think you are. I know exactly what my gender is.

It's true I know nothing of your relationship with mantra, but I have seen you act this way before towards her and be oh so blasé.

Like I wrote, it is quite endearing and I like it.

OK kiddies, that's enough.

I remember that Phil had 48 points. I hope he didn't get banned though.

freediver wrote on Oct 17^th, 2008 at 2:57pm:

You allowed guests to vote so you can rig the outcome didn't you?

Yes tallo..and freediver has confimed the flaw in the poll system in here.

I already suggested a solution Og...

Grendel wrote on Oct 18^th, 2008 at 1:52pm:

I already suggested a solution Og...

Ok well thats good..

If you want, you can take your complaints about moderation on the member run boards to the relationships board.

who are you addressing fd?

The members of OzPolitic.

good thread