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Message started by Grendel on Nov 4th, 2008 at 6:19pm

Title: Please Explain?
Post by Grendel on Nov 4th, 2008 at 6:19pm
Why Aboo has a right to be a Moderator on any board?



Mesopotamia & The Arabs (for tallowood)
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I came across some interesting reading the other day, in relation to your post about Mesopotamia, the Arabs and Abraham (pbuh).

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The land of the Arabs historically was in Arabian peninsula south of Mesopotamia, that's why Sumerian texts refer to Arabs as foreigners and invaders.


According to many experts on the origins of Semitic speaking peoples, they all originated from the Arabian peninsula:

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The earliest known events in Arabian history are migrations from the peninsula into neighbouring areas. Around 3500 BC, Semitic-speaking peoples of Arabian origin migrated into the valley of the Tigris and Euphrates rivers in Mesopotamia, supplanted the Summerians, as the Akkadians (see Babylonia and Assyria). Some archeologists argue that another group of Semites left Arabia around 2500 BC during the Early Bronze Age Amorites and settled along the Levant mixing in with the local populations there. These Amorites eventually became the Arameans and Canaanites of later times Bernard Lewis mentions in his book The Arabs in History:

  "According to this, Arabia was originally a land of great fertility and the first home of the Semitic peoples. Through the millennia it has been undergoing a process of steady desiccation, a drying up of wealth and waterways and a spread of the desert at the expense of the cultivable land. The declining productivity of the peninsula, together with the increase in the number of the inhabitants, led to a series of crises of overpopulation and consequently to a recurring cycle of invasions of the neighbouring countries by the Semitic peoples of the peninsula. It was these crises that carried the Assyrians, Aramaeans, Canaanites (including the Phoenicians), and finally the Arabs themselves into the Fertile Crescent."


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The Winckler-Caetani theory , named after its two most distinguished proponents, Hugo Winckler and Leone Caetani, which claims that Arabia was originally a land of great fertility and the first home of the semitic peoples. Through the millennia it has been undergoing a process of steady desiccation, a drying up of wealth and waterways and spread of the desert at the expenses of the cultivable land. The declining productivity of the peninsula, together with the increase in the number of the inhabitants, led to a series of crises of overpopulation and consequently to a recurring cycle of invasions of the neighbouring countries by the semitic peoples of the peninsula. It was these crises that carried the Assyrians, the Aramaeans, Canaanites (including the Phoenicians and Hebrews), and finally the Arabs themselves into the Fertile Crescent. The Arabs of history would thus be the undifferentiated residue after the great invasion of ancient history had taken place.

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Re: Mesopotamia & The Arabs (for tallowood)
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Your point?

I gather you're no blood relative of any of these peoples.  Smiley



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Re: Mesopotamia & The Arabs (for tallowood)
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Grendel,

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Your point?


Must everything be an anti-Islamic vs. islamic contest for you? It's about the origin of Semitic peoples.  If you're not interested in the topic, avoid it, if you're interested, sit down and watch or contribute constructively.

The initial point was raised by tallowood, this is a response to it, that's what discussions are usually about, contrary to your concept of a perpetual rally of 'points'.

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I gather you're no blood relative of any of these peoples.


I know you find it hard to think outside the idea of only posting something to big-note your own ethnicity, but not everyone is down there on the same level with you.

Now if you have something worth noting in this thread, do so, or your posts will be deleted from it. Your destructive and unbeneficial input is really not required here.
     



Title: Re: Please Explain?
Post by Grendel on Nov 4th, 2008 at 6:22pm
To which I added...


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Oh I'm sorry.... care to point out to me where I made any such anti-Islamic statement?

Care to quote anytime I've stated anything anti-Ismamic?

You started a topic babbling on re History yet provide no basis.  Simple question...  YOUR POINT?

have I ever big-noted my own ethnicity?
care to provide some quotes?

I suggest you are the one with the problem not me.


Now Please Explain why I should be subject to constant threats and censorship but someone obviously so unbalanced in their outlook.....

Title: Re: Please Explain?
Post by freediver on Nov 4th, 2008 at 6:53pm
Stop posting complaints about moderators to feedback grendel.

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