Should be more like it.
It's what they want, what are your comments, gaybriel ?
Or are you off for your submissive mindless endless prayers ?



"THREE Islamist militants were killed in the final assault on Mumbai's Taj Mahal hotel that signalled the end to a two-day assault on India's financial capital.

"We said there were three terrorists .... and we have got three bodies,'' J.K. Dutt, head of India's National Security Guard, told reporters outside the hotel.

"As of right now there is no firing,'' Mr Dutt said, while stressing that the final all-clear had not yet been sounded.

"We are now going through each and every room to make sure it is safe,'' he said, appealing to any guests still hiding in the hotel to make themselves known.

"Small explosions'' might be heard as his men carried out the final floor-by-floor clearing operation, said Mr Dutt.

Extremely heavy gunfire was  heard from inside Mumbai's Taj Mahal hotel, with a major blaze also breaking out as Indian commandos fought to clear the building of Islamic militants."



http://www.news.com.au/couriermail/story/0,23739,24725094-954,00.html

MEH, its like a few less rodents around.

nice attitude guys- enjoying the deaths of others

what do you want comments about sprint?

the attack? sickening

the deaths? tragic

the deaths of the attackers? they are in gods hands now and will answer for their actions

Gaybriel wrote on Nov 29^th, 2008 at 11:54pm:

nice attitude guys- enjoying the deaths of others

No worries. :)


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the attack? sickening

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the deaths? tragic

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the deaths of the attackers? they are in gods hands now and will answer for their actions

On the contrary, they have been released from their struggle and have escaped our required satisfaction.

yes but the fact is they are dead and the only solace to be found is that god will deal with them justly

Gaybriel wrote on Nov 30^th, 2008 at 12:05am:

yes but the fact is they are dead and the only solace to be found is that god will deal with them justly

What is this ''GOD'' that you speak of Gaybriel?

Bugger leaving it up to god, that is what got us into this mess in the first place.

They could have got Warney.

Warney!!

It would have been on if that had happened, every red blooded ausiie would have been looking for retribution.
I am so sick of these dirtbags and their bogus, and violent mumbo jumbo.

They are just as much victims as the others. Most of them looked like High school students. The message is clear. Catch them while they're young, enthusiastic and willing to do anything that they can be brainwashed to do.

We need to get rid of the callous barbaric savages that are responsible for perpetuating this kind of obscenity. They are not motivated by religion. To them it's all about personal power - like thugs and gangsters anywhere, but they know how to manipulate young naïve people using a combination of religion and hatred of Westerners (economic racism) in this case.

Of course thugs don't have to use religion to manipulate people. They just need to latch on to some other scapegoat characteristic, such as a particular race or religion (eg the Jews in WWII) or just dehumanise the intended victims to make their students believe that they are fighting against an enemy who have committed some kind of atrocity or are depriving the intended martyrs of some fundamental right.

In this case, it was probably a combination of all of the above, primarily using Islam as a tool to wreak destruction.  

muso - many terrorists are middle aged, well educated.
your scenario of them all being young and foolhardy and impressionable is incorrect.

they are all muslims who follow the koran.

Sprintcyclist wrote on Nov 30^th, 2008 at 9:22am:

muso - many terrorists are middle aged, well educated. your scenario of them all being young and foolhardy and impressionable is incorrect. they are all muslims who follow the koran.

I was just commenting on the Mumbai case, but we see more of the same in Palestine and Iraq. It's always the young ones who are 'sacrificed'. We rarely see the middle aged ones being involved in suicide attacks.

I agree with muso. Young Muslims are sacrificed by middle aged imams but if they believe that it helps World Peace they are idiots.

They are idiots, period. That's how they have been brainwashed.

The attackers were just pawns. Killing them is no victory. It was a suicide mission to beign with. The communities that these people came from need to track down the people behind it (the clerics) and string them up, rather than makling up excuses for not getting involved. Either that, or outsiders will do it for them. Hopefully this will be the final straw that forces the Pakistani government to wipe out the lunatics in the hills. The battle seems to be moving ever closer to home for the extremists. The time will come when they will turn on their own neighbours.

freediver wrote on Nov 30^th, 2008 at 3:27pm:

Killing them is no victory. It was a suicide mission to beign with

That couldnt be more true, and it makes martyrs of them.
I have a solution to this problem.

They must be humiliated and treated as horse theives.
They must be held naked in stocks in the public square where the local serfs can throw pig meat at them.
Before being hung as a common theif they must be converted to either christianity or judaism as a degrading insult.
Finally, after being bathed in pigs blood be hung with rope made of hemp and be constantly told until they breathe their last breath that they are the scum of the earth and shall find themselves in a piggery in hell.

Justice much? [smiley=evil.gif]

sounds pretty fair to me.
Course, that applies to all who support terrorists ?
Also, kill their families. get rid of that gene strain

Sprintcyclist wrote on Nov 30^th, 2008 at 5:40pm:

sounds pretty fair to me. Course, that applies to all who support terrorists ? Also, kill their families. get rid of that gene strain

No thats just plain murder not justice.

muso wrote on Nov 30^th, 2008 at 7:05am:

They are just as much victims as the others.

Freediver
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The attackers were just pawns.

...And it's attitudes like these that gives terrorists motivation to continue their attacks.

Terrorists carrying out these operations are not stupid. They are aware that our society is filled with gullible multiculturalism/equality morons ready to have 'sympathy' for these nutjobs and they take full advantage of it.

At the end of the day, we have no-one to blame but ourselves. If we took the no bullsh1t approach to terrorists and didn't have an attitude like the above posters, I'm pretty sure the number of terrorism attacks would be extraordinarily different.

Honestly, what is the purpose of terrorist attacks? Publicity. Advertisement.

If we simply turned away from our TV screens and didn't pay any attention to these Muslims (Aka. Parasites), and didn't have 'sympathy' for them like so many so-called 'intellectuals' try to teach our OWN CITIZENS at our Universities and schools, then perhaps the number of terrorist attacks would drop.

History certainly is repeating itself. It happened with Vietnam (Where hippies and other assorted pot-smoking morons forced America to go soft), and now it's happening on a grander scale across the entire western world.

Just call every Muslim attacker what they should be called, a murderer and a coward. Stop with all this 'misunderstood' bullsh1t. Honestly, how could anyone be stupid enough to think that killing someone will get them into 'heaven?' It's certainly a tragic event... for the victims. But in no way is it tragic for the scumbags who did this.

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It's always the young ones who are 'sacrificed'. We rarely see the middle aged ones being involved in suicide attacks.

The same would apply to all governments in their so called quest for peace and democracy.  How many marines were lost when we attacked Iraq - although their deaths were miniscule in number compared to the 100,000 or so civilians who were murdered by the Coalition of the Willing.

Muso says:

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We need to get rid of the callous barbaric savages that are responsible for perpetuating this kind of obscenity. They are not motivated by religion. To them it's all about personal power - like thugs and gangsters anywhere, but they know how to manipulate young naïve people using a combination of religion and hatred of Westerners (economic racism) in this case.

Why are our terrorist attacks justified even though innocent civilians are always the victims?  You could say our recent invasions in the Middle East and even Vietnam were instigated by barbaric savages who sacrificed hundreds of thousands of lives to maintain their hold on power.

It works both ways, although we are maybe a little more civilised - we sometimes give an advanced warning before we begin dropping cluster bombs or napalm as in the case of Vietnam.

mantra wrote on Nov 30^th, 2008 at 6:05pm:

Quote: It's always the young ones who are 'sacrificed'. We rarely see the middle aged ones being involved in suicide attacks. The same would apply to all governments in their so called quest for peace and democracy.  How many marines were lost when we attacked Iraq - although their deaths were miniscule in number compared to the 100,000 or so civilians who were murdered by the Coalition of the Willing. Muso says: [quote]We need to get rid of the callous barbaric savages that are responsible for perpetuating this kind of obscenity. They are not motivated by religion. To them it's all about personal power - like thugs and gangsters anywhere, but they know how to manipulate young naïve people using a combination of religion and hatred of Westerners (economic racism) in this case.

Why are our terrorist attacks justified even though innocent civilians are always the victims?  You could say our recent invasions in the Middle East and even Vietnam were instigated by barbaric savages who sacrificed hundreds of thousands of lives to maintain their hold on power.

It works both ways, although we are maybe a little more civilised - we sometimes give an advanced warning before we begin dropping cluster bombs or napalm as in the case of Vietnam.[/quote]

Oh, but don't you know, Mantra? The American army is barbaric with civilians and... stuff. They like... target babies... and stuff. Just like in the movie... Platoon. And stuff. The point is... Americans are just imperialist war-mongers... and stuff.

So where is Abu_ratshit? Was he amongst the terrorists? ;D

DILLIGAF wrote on Nov 30^th, 2008 at 6:27pm:

So where is Abu_ratshit? Was he amongst the terrorists? ;D

Nah, he's more valuable to them as a recruiter/converter.

ex-member DonaldTrump wrote on Nov 30^th, 2008 at 6:50pm:

DILLIGAF wrote on Nov 30th, 2008 at 6:27pm: So where is Abu_ratshit? Was he amongst the terrorists? ;D Nah, he's more valuable to them as a recruiter/converter.

You reckon? I didnt think he was all that smart. But then again animals are pretty easy to train.

DILLIGAF wrote on Nov 30^th, 2008 at 6:54pm:

ex-member DonaldTrump wrote on Nov 30th, 2008 at 6:50pm: DILLIGAF wrote on Nov 30th, 2008 at 6:27pm: So where is Abu_ratshit? Was he amongst the terrorists? ;D Nah, he's more valuable to them as a recruiter/converter. You reckon? I didnt think he was all that smart. But then again animals are pretty easy to train.

Smart? You really think it's possible for an Australian/European convert to Islam and self-confessed anti-racism and multiculturalism supporter to be 'smart?'

The rejects/outcasts of Australian society will follow him, don't worry about that.

phil - getting rid of all their family would be a GOOD incentive to them NOT becoming terrorists .

It'ld be a GOOD incentive to family members dobbing in wannabe terrorists.

ex-member DonaldTrump wrote on Nov 30^th, 2008 at 6:59pm:

DILLIGAF wrote on Nov 30th, 2008 at 6:54pm: ex-member DonaldTrump wrote on Nov 30th, 2008 at 6:50pm: DILLIGAF wrote on Nov 30th, 2008 at 6:27pm: So where is Abu_ratshit? Was he amongst the terrorists? ;D Nah, he's more valuable to them as a recruiter/converter. You reckon? I didnt think he was all that smart. But then again animals are pretty easy to train. Smart? You really think it's possible for an Australian/European convert to Islam and self-confessed anti-racism and multiculturalism supporter to be 'smart?' The rejects/outcasts of Australian society will follow him, don't worry about that.

You have misread me and misquoted me :P

Oh and Aussie women are uncovered meat for cats. :P :D

;D

He is (was) a real dumb arse! In Abu_ratshit's case he should be strung up by the balls and raped by homosexuals in his mouth.

Sprintcyclist wrote on Nov 30^th, 2008 at 7:00pm:

phil - getting rid of all their family would be a GOOD incentive to them NOT becoming terrorists . It'ld be a GOOD incentive to family members dobbing in wannabe terrorists.

It would actually encourage them Sprint. Remember how the USSR treated eastern europe and what the end result was? How many attempted revolutions were there because the commie scum didnt just hurt the individual but the family unit as a whole.

DILLIGAF wrote on Nov 30^th, 2008 at 7:05pm:

ex-member DonaldTrump wrote on Nov 30th, 2008 at 6:59pm: DILLIGAF wrote on Nov 30th, 2008 at 6:54pm: ex-member DonaldTrump wrote on Nov 30th, 2008 at 6:50pm: DILLIGAF wrote on Nov 30th, 2008 at 6:27pm: So where is Abu_ratshit? Was he amongst the terrorists? ;D Nah, he's more valuable to them as a recruiter/converter. You reckon? I didnt think he was all that smart. But then again animals are pretty easy to train. Smart? You really think it's possible for an Australian/European convert to Islam and self-confessed anti-racism and multiculturalism supporter to be 'smart?' The rejects/outcasts of Australian society will follow him, don't worry about that. You have misread me and misquoted me :P Oh and Aussie women are uncovered meat for cats. :P :D ;D He is (was) a real dumb arse! In Abu_ratshit's case he should be strung up by the balls and raped by homosexuals in his mouth.

BUT, you actually IMPLIED that it could even be POSSIBLE for someone like that to be smart.  ;)

ex-member DonaldTrump wrote on Nov 30^th, 2008 at 7:08pm:

DILLIGAF wrote on Nov 30th, 2008 at 7:05pm: ex-member DonaldTrump wrote on Nov 30th, 2008 at 6:59pm: DILLIGAF wrote on Nov 30th, 2008 at 6:54pm: ex-member DonaldTrump wrote on Nov 30th, 2008 at 6:50pm: DILLIGAF wrote on Nov 30th, 2008 at 6:27pm: So where is Abu_ratshit? Was he amongst the terrorists? ;D Nah, he's more valuable to them as a recruiter/converter. You reckon? I didnt think he was all that smart. But then again animals are pretty easy to train. Smart? You really think it's possible for an Australian/European convert to Islam and self-confessed anti-racism and multiculturalism supporter to be 'smart?' The rejects/outcasts of Australian society will follow him, don't worry about that. You have misread me and misquoted me :P Oh and Aussie women are uncovered meat for cats. :P :D ;D He is (was) a real dumb arse! In Abu_ratshit's case he should be strung up by the balls and raped by homosexuals in his mouth. BUT, you actually IMPLIED that it could even be POSSIBLE for someone like that to be smart.  ;)

Well even i have my faults :o

ex-member DonaldTrump wrote on Nov 30^th, 2008 at 6:02pm:

muso wrote on Nov 30th, 2008 at 7:05am: They are just as much victims as the others.   Freediver Quote: The attackers were just pawns. ...And it's attitudes like these that gives terrorists motivation to continue their attacks. Terrorists carrying out these operations are not stupid. They are aware that our society is filled with gullible multiculturalism/equality morons ready to have 'sympathy' for these nutjobs and they take full advantage of it. At the end of the day, we have no-one to blame but ourselves. If we took the no bullsh1t approach to terrorists and didn't have an attitude like the above posters, I'm pretty sure the number of terrorism attacks would be extraordinarily different. Honestly, what is the purpose of terrorist attacks? Publicity. Advertisement. If we simply turned away from our TV screens and didn't pay any attention to these Muslims (Aka. Parasites), and didn't have 'sympathy' for them like so many so-called 'intellectuals' try to teach our OWN CITIZENS at our Universities and schools, then perhaps the number of terrorist attacks would drop. History certainly is repeating itself. It happened with Vietnam (Where hippies and other assorted pot-smoking morons forced America to go soft), and now it's happening on a grander scale across the entire western world. Just call every Muslim attacker what they should be called, a murderer and a coward. Stop with all this 'misunderstood' bullsh1t. Honestly, how could anyone be stupid enough to think that killing someone will get them into 'heaven?' It's certainly a tragic event... for the victims. But in no way is it tragic for the scumbags who did this.

Standard issue western ammunition should be coated in pig's blood. The fact should be extensively publicised. Every muslim terrorist killed with such ammo would be haram at the moment of death and would go straight to Islamic hell.

Peace.

Soren wrote on Nov 30^th, 2008 at 8:43pm:

... Standard issue western ammunition should be coated in pig's blood. The fact should be extensively publicised. Every muslim terrorist killed with such ammo would be haram at the moment of death and would go straight to Islamic hell. Peace.

No. The sepoy rebellion of 1857 was caused by rumours of cartridges  had a casing made of cow and pig fat.

Ordinary ammo will do the job as long as there is no political and financial under-the-table games.

ex-member DonaldTrump wrote on Nov 30^th, 2008 at 6:02pm:

... History certainly is repeating itself. It happened with Vietnam (Where hippies and other assorted pot-smoking morons forced America to go soft), and now it's happening on a grander scale across the entire western world. ...

Vietnam war was completely different.

1 Vietcong did not go around killing American or Australian civvies.
2 There was forced conscription into Army.

ex-member DonaldTrump wrote on Nov 30^th, 2008 at 6:02pm:

muso wrote on Nov 30th, 2008 at 7:05am: They are just as much victims as the others.   Freediver Quote: The attackers were just pawns. ...And it's attitudes like these that gives terrorists motivation to continue their attacks. Terrorists carrying out these operations are not stupid. They are aware that our society is filled with gullible multiculturalism/equality morons ready to have 'sympathy' for these nutjobs and they take full advantage of it. At the end of the day, we have no-one to blame but ourselves. If we took the no bullsh1t approach to terrorists and didn't have an attitude like the above posters, I'm pretty sure the number of terrorism attacks would be extraordinarily different. Honestly, what is the purpose of terrorist attacks? Publicity. Advertisement. If we simply turned away from our TV screens and didn't pay any attention to these Muslims (Aka. Parasites), and didn't have 'sympathy' for them like so many so-called 'intellectuals' try to teach our OWN CITIZENS at our Universities and schools, then perhaps the number of terrorist attacks would drop. History certainly is repeating itself. It happened with Vietnam (Where hippies and other assorted pot-smoking morons forced America to go soft), and now it's happening on a grander scale across the entire western world. Just call every Muslim attacker what they should be called, a murderer and a coward. Stop with all this 'misunderstood' bullsh1t. Honestly, how could anyone be stupid enough to think that killing someone will get them into 'heaven?' It's certainly a tragic event... for the victims. But in no way is it tragic for the scumbags who did this.

DT you seem to be misinterpretting my post. Saying they are 'just a pawn' is not sympathetic. Suppose I said the same about one of your ancestors who died defending our country. Would you interpret it as sympathetic?

Also, stop insulting Abu.

mantra wrote on Nov 30^th, 2008 at 6:05pm:

[quote]... Why are our terrorist attacks justified even though innocent civilians are always the victims?  ...

What are you talking about?

Australian army don't target civilians deliberately. Most of kills are armed militants like Taliban or AQ fighters.

DILLIGAF wrote on Nov 30^th, 2008 at 12:51am:

Gaybriel wrote on Nov 30th, 2008 at 12:05am: yes but the fact is they are dead and the only solace to be found is that god will deal with them justly What is this ''GOD'' that you speak of Gaybriel?

well I believe there is a god- that's as far as I've gotten so far

gaybriel - and is he a sort of God who wants everyone to be like puppets ?
Giving 1000's of strict instructions to be followed slavishly all their lives ?
Handing out severe punishments left right and centre ?
Talking through a paedophile, then never again to anyone else ?

Gaybriel wrote on Dec 1^st, 2008 at 12:45am:

DILLIGAF wrote on Nov 30th, 2008 at 12:51am: Gaybriel wrote on Nov 30th, 2008 at 12:05am: yes but the fact is they are dead and the only solace to be found is that god will deal with them justly What is this ''GOD'' that you speak of Gaybriel? well I believe there is a god- that's as far as I've gotten so far

His name isn't Hugh Jackman by any chance , is it? I think I've heard enough about how 'wonderful' he is.

tallowood wrote on Nov 30^th, 2008 at 9:46pm:

ex-member DonaldTrump wrote on Nov 30th, 2008 at 6:02pm: ... History certainly is repeating itself. It happened with Vietnam (Where hippies and other assorted pot-smoking morons forced America to go soft), and now it's happening on a grander scale across the entire western world. ... Vietnam war was completely different. 1 Vietcong did not go around killing American or Australian civvies. 2 There was forced conscription into Army.

Yeah, and the Vietcong probably weren't aware of how powerful the media is in fighting wars.

I think the Iraqis and Afghanis are using the Viet War as a blueprint on how to beat the Americans. Particularly if they stretch out a guerilla campaign for a long period of time.

freediver wrote on Nov 30^th, 2008 at 9:48pm:

ex-member DonaldTrump wrote on Nov 30th, 2008 at 6:02pm: muso wrote on Nov 30th, 2008 at 7:05am: They are just as much victims as the others.   Freediver Quote: The attackers were just pawns. ...And it's attitudes like these that gives terrorists motivation to continue their attacks. Terrorists carrying out these operations are not stupid. They are aware that our society is filled with gullible multiculturalism/equality morons ready to have 'sympathy' for these nutjobs and they take full advantage of it. At the end of the day, we have no-one to blame but ourselves. If we took the no bullsh1t approach to terrorists and didn't have an attitude like the above posters, I'm pretty sure the number of terrorism attacks would be extraordinarily different. Honestly, what is the purpose of terrorist attacks? Publicity. Advertisement. If we simply turned away from our TV screens and didn't pay any attention to these Muslims (Aka. Parasites), and didn't have 'sympathy' for them like so many so-called 'intellectuals' try to teach our OWN CITIZENS at our Universities and schools, then perhaps the number of terrorist attacks would drop. History certainly is repeating itself. It happened with Vietnam (Where hippies and other assorted pot-smoking morons forced America to go soft), and now it's happening on a grander scale across the entire western world. Just call every Muslim attacker what they should be called, a murderer and a coward. Stop with all this 'misunderstood' bullsh1t. Honestly, how could anyone be stupid enough to think that killing someone will get them into 'heaven?' It's certainly a tragic event... for the victims. But in no way is it tragic for the scumbags who did this. DT you seem to be misinterpretting my post. Saying they are 'just a pawn' is not sympathetic. Suppose I said the same about one of your ancestors who died defending our country. Would you interpret it as sympathetic? Also, stop insulting Abu.

Who cares if I'm misinterpreting your post? That's the whole point. Everyone will misinterpret your post. By calling them 'pawns' you're basically saying that those who carried out the attacks are not responsible for their own actions because a 'higher power' carried out those attacks. It's basically saying to have sympathy for those who carried out the attacks because they're PAW WITTLE INNOCENT PAWNS!

You may not mean that by what you're saying, but that's how others will read it and that's what you're implying.

Deepthought you seem to be confusing an honest analysis of strategic position with sympathy for the enemy. Interpretting all but the most openly hostile comments as sympathetic only encourages people to stop thinking rationally about how to destroy your enemy. We don't all have to beat our chest constantly to prove our allegiance. You are being hypersensitive and trying to create your own brand of political correctness.


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Who cares if I'm misinterpreting your post?

I do, for starters.


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Everyone will misinterpret your post.

It seems it's just you DT.


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By calling them 'pawns' you're basically saying that those who carried out the attacks are not responsible for their own actions because a 'higher power' carried out those attacks.

No I'm not.


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It's basically saying to have sympathy for those who carried out the attacks because they're PAW WITTLE INNOCENT PAWNS!

No it's not. Pawn does not imply innocent. You acknowledged this when you acknowledged that it was a misinterpretation.


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You may not mean that by what you're saying, but that's how others will read it and that's what you're implying.

That doesn't make sense. How can I imply one thing but mean something else?

mantra wrote on Nov 30^th, 2008 at 6:05pm:

Quote: It's always the young ones who are 'sacrificed'. We rarely see the middle aged ones being involved in suicide attacks. The same would apply to all governments in their so called quest for peace and democracy.  How many marines were lost when we attacked Iraq - although their deaths were miniscule in number compared to the 100,000 or so civilians who were murdered by the Coalition of the Willing. Muso says: [quote]We need to get rid of the callous barbaric savages that are responsible for perpetuating this kind of obscenity. They are not motivated by religion. To them it's all about personal power - like thugs and gangsters anywhere, but they know how to manipulate young naïve people using a combination of religion and hatred of Westerners (economic racism) in this case.

Why are our terrorist attacks justified even though innocent civilians are always the victims?  You could say our recent invasions in the Middle East and even Vietnam were instigated by barbaric savages who sacrificed hundreds of thousands of lives to maintain their hold on power.

It works both ways, although we are maybe a little more civilised - we sometimes give an advanced warning before we begin dropping cluster bombs or napalm as in the case of Vietnam.[/quote]

Remember, I was one of the ones who opposed the invasion of Iraq. What I say with regards to this act of senseless barbarism applies to all acts of senseless barbarism. I make no apologies for opposing all violence.

- and violence begets violence, regardless of what you read in Deuteronomy about smug God-sanctioned barbarians who committed mass genocide. Even if they left no children alive, what goes around comes around in future generations.

muso wrote on Dec 1^st, 2008 at 7:39pm:

mantra wrote on Nov 30th, 2008 at 6:05pm: Quote: It's always the young ones who are 'sacrificed'. We rarely see the middle aged ones being involved in suicide attacks. The same would apply to all governments in their so called quest for peace and democracy.  How many marines were lost when we attacked Iraq - although their deaths were miniscule in number compared to the 100,000 or so civilians who were murdered by the Coalition of the Willing. Muso says: [quote]We need to get rid of the callous barbaric savages that are responsible for perpetuating this kind of obscenity. They are not motivated by religion. To them it's all about personal power - like thugs and gangsters anywhere, but they know how to manipulate young naïve people using a combination of religion and hatred of Westerners (economic racism) in this case. Why are our terrorist attacks justified even though innocent civilians are always the victims?  You could say our recent invasions in the Middle East and even Vietnam were instigated by barbaric savages who sacrificed hundreds of thousands of lives to maintain their hold on power. It works both ways, although we are maybe a little more civilised - we sometimes give an advanced warning before we begin dropping cluster bombs or napalm as in the case of Vietnam.

Remember, I was one of the ones who opposed the invasion of Iraq. What I say with regards to this act of senseless barbarism applies to all acts of senseless barbarism. I make no apologies for opposing all violence.

- and violence begets violence, regardless of what you read in Deuteronomy about smug God-sanctioned barbarians who committed mass genocide. Even if they left no children alive, what goes around comes around in future generations. [/quote]


You will be eaten by maggots.
Will it be due to your ancestor's behaviour generations ago?

Sounds like you believe in original sin, mr Religious atheist.  :)

It's drawing a very long bow to go from cause and effect to original sin.

freediver wrote on Dec 1^st, 2008 at 8:11pm:

It's drawing a very long bow to go from cause and effect to original sin.

Turkish recurves had  longer shots till Americans invented compounds.

freediver wrote on Dec 1^st, 2008 at 5:17pm:

Deepthought you seem to be confusing an honest analysis of strategic position with sympathy for the enemy. Interpretting all but the most openly hostile comments as sympathetic only encourages people to stop thinking rationally about how to destroy your enemy. We don't all have to beat our chest constantly to prove our allegiance. You are being hypersensitive and trying to create your own brand of political correctness. Quote: Who cares if I'm misinterpreting your post? I do, for starters. [quote]Everyone will misinterpret your post.

It seems it's just you DT.


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By calling them 'pawns' you're basically saying that those who carried out the attacks are not responsible for their own actions because a 'higher power' carried out those attacks.

No I'm not.


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It's basically saying to have sympathy for those who carried out the attacks because they're PAW WITTLE INNOCENT PAWNS!

No it's not. Pawn does not imply innocent. You acknowledged this when you acknowledged that it was a misinterpretation.


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You may not mean that by what you're saying, but that's how others will read it and that's what you're implying.

That doesn't make sense. How can I imply one thing but mean something else?[/quote]

*Sigh* I can't believe you've sunk to the level of wondering whether people have multiple ID's, FD. Seriously, I thought you were above that and had a certain amount of 'control' over this forum. Maybe I was wrong.

You may not believe that's what you're doing, but trust me, it is.

By calling them 'pawns' you're implying that they've been brainwashed. That they are under the control of someone else. That they've been misled. Therefore, we should have sympathy for them. Sympathy for the attackers will eventually lead to sympathy for their cause.

I understand what you're trying to say FD, and that what I'm saying is  far from what you mean. But people WILL interpret it that way.

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*Sigh* I can't believe you've sunk to the level of wondering whether people have multiple ID's, FD.

Where did that come from?


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You may not believe that's what you're doing, but trust me, it is.

Now I have no idea what you are trying to say.


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By calling them 'pawns' you're implying that they've been brainwashed.

No I'm not, but even if I was, so what?


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Therefore, we should have sympathy for them.

You keep coming back to this, but it is a totally absurd conclusion.

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*Sigh* I can't believe you've sunk to the level of wondering whether people have multiple ID's, FD. Where did that come from?

You called DonaldTrump Deepthought - FD.  If this DT is the other DT - I'll eat my PC.  Impossible.  :o

Oh. Sorry.  :-[

I've nearly done that a couple of times now. I guess it was only a matter of time.