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Message started by Grendel on Dec 10th, 2008 at 6:54pm

Title: Star of Bethlehem
Post by Grendel on Dec 10th, 2008 at 6:54pm
Well we all know Dec 25th isn't Jesus' birthday, it's just celebrated then.  We also know that mid year has been suggested by many people over the centuries as more likely an that the year ranges a few either side of year dot...  ie a few bc and a few ad.

Bethlehem star ‘found’
Bryan Patterson
Monday, December 08, 2008 at 11:47am

An Australian astronomer believes he has answered the riddle of the Bethlehem star, even narrowing down the date of Jesus’ birth to a day.

The guiding star that led the three wise men, or magi, to the birthplace of Jesus Christ is one of the most lasting symbols of biblical mythology.

News editor of Sky and Space magazine Dave Reneke says complex charting software has allowed astronomers to map the night sky as it would have appeared more than 2000 years ago and has revealed a spectacular astronomical event at the time of Jesus’ birth.

“It’s like a digital map where we can move forward in time as well as backwards,” Mr Reneke explained.

Generally accepted research has places the nativity to somewhere between 3BC and 1AD.

Using the Bible book of Matthew as a reference point, Mr Reneke pinpointed the planetary conjunction to an exact date in 2BC.

Similar to the planetary alignment of the “smiley face” witnessed across the Western sky last week, he said a “beacon of light” would have been visible across the eastern dawn sky as Venus and Jupiter moved across the constellation of Leo on June 17, 2BC.

The conjunction of the planets was so close, he said the planets would have appeared as one bright star even with the naked eye.

“ Mr Reneke said the story of the Christmas star is of particular emotional significance.

“It cuts to the heart of what it means to be human beings,” he said

“Often when we mix science with religion in this kind of forum, it can upset people. In this case, I think this could serve to reinforce people’s faith.” NEWS.COM

Title: Re: Star of Bethlehem
Post by Amadd on Dec 10th, 2008 at 9:42pm
Yes it reinforces my faith that Christianity is more astrologically based than anything else.

Title: Re: Star of Bethlehem
Post by muso on Dec 11th, 2008 at 3:46pm
Beacon of light? That implies that the combination would be so much brighter. The apparent magnitude of Venus is -4.4 at maximum. That of Jupiter is about -1.6. The combination would still be approximately -4.4 since the magnitude scale is logarithmic.

What absolute balderdash!

Let's do the calculation

(10^4.4) + (10^1.6) =  25118 + 40 = 25158

log (25158) = 4.4.


beacon schmeacon  ;D

Title: Re: Star of Bethlehem
Post by sprintcyclist on Dec 11th, 2008 at 9:18pm


Upon my stars !!!


:-)

Title: Re: Star of Bethlehem
Post by tallowood on Dec 11th, 2008 at 10:31pm
UFO had delivered baby god is the only rational explanation for modern science minded homo sapience.

Title: Re: Star of Bethlehem
Post by Amadd on Dec 11th, 2008 at 11:55pm
The smiley moon would've been a better pretext for a religion.

Hey, it's not too late tallowood. Are you in fact, The Christ?




Title: Re: Star of Bethlehem
Post by Amadd on Dec 12th, 2008 at 12:04am

Quote:
Well we all know Dec 25th isn't Jesus' birthday, it's just celebrated then.  We also know that mid year has been suggested by many people over the centuries as more likely an that the year ranges a few either side of year dot...  ie a few bc and a few ad.


Yes it was mid-year because of that archeological birthday card find wasn't it?
Why is it celebrated on December 25th?



Title: Re: Star of Bethlehem
Post by muso on Dec 12th, 2008 at 8:40am

Amadd wrote on Dec 12th, 2008 at 12:04am:

Quote:
Well we all know Dec 25th isn't Jesus' birthday, it's just celebrated then.  We also know that mid year has been suggested by many people over the centuries as more likely an that the year ranges a few either side of year dot...  ie a few bc and a few ad.


Yes it was mid-year because of that archeological birthday card find wasn't it?
Why is it celebrated on December 25th?


I thought all militant atheists knew that.  :P  It was the birth date of Mithras.

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