After rocketting israel for decades and publically promising to kill all jews and americans the mindless hamas now want peace.
Why, are they LYING LOSERS, death now not so desired ??

Well, it's on Israels terms now.



"HOPES for a peace deal in Gaza have improved, with Hamas apparently "reacting favourably" to an Egyptian-brokered ceasefire plan.


Hamas agree to ceasefire
Hamas has agreed to a temporary ceasefire plan in Gaza, although Israel is yet to agree to the...
Views today: 179Sorry, this video is no longer available.International pleas mounted overnight for a halt to the Gaza war as the death toll in the Palestinian territory passed 1000 people.

Israeli jets carried out a fresh wave of air strikes across the Gaza Strip this morning, killing at least 13 Palestinians, including a 13-year-old boy, medics and witnesses said.

But while al-Qa'ida leader Osama bin Laden seized on the conflict to call for a holy war against Israel, French Foreign Minister Bernard Kouchner said a ceasefire between Israel and Hamas could be edging closer.

“The outlines of a ceasefire have begun to appear, even if we still have to face serious obstacles,” Mr Kouchner told the French parliament. “I'm convinced that our efforts will bear fruit.”

His comments were echoed by French President Nicolas Sarkozy who said he had “a good feeling that things are moving in a positive way” as he held talks with British Prime Minister Gordon Brown in Paris.

Spanish Foreign Minister Miguel Angel Moratinos said in Jerusalem that Gaza's Islamist movement Hamas had accepted an Egyptian initiative to halt the war and “is going to publicly express its support and acceptance”.

While an Egyptian official said earlier that Hamas had “reacted favourably” to Egyptian efforts to end the fighting, according to MENA news agency in Cairo where UN Secretary General Ban Ki-moon began his Middle East peace tour.

After talks with Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak, Mr Ban repeated his call for an “immediate and durable ceasefire,” and urged “both parties... to stop the fighting now. There is no time to lose”.

Middle Eastern countries also added their calls to an end to the violence.

Saudi Arabia's King Abdullah called an emergency summit of Gulf countries in Riyadh later today due to escalating tensions “resulting from the Israeli aggression against the Palestinian people,” the Saudi SPA news agency said.

Syrian President Bashar al-Assad told the BBC that his country was doing everything to mediate a truce and warned that Israel's offensive on the Gaza Strip risks “sowing the seeds of extremism around the region”.

His views were echoed by Jordan's King Abdullah II who said Israel “should be forced to be committed to UN Security Council Resolution 1860,” which was adopted last week, demanding an “immediate, durable” ceasefire leading to the “full withdrawal” of Israeli forces from Gaza.

The UN General Assembly was to hold an emergency session tonight to press for a ceasefire call.
Meanwhile a number of European deputies insisted that the EU take sanctions against Israel amid wider calls to freeze deeper ties with the Jewish state.

Bin Laden, in his first audio broadcast for more than eight months, called on Muslims to declare a holy war on Israel because of the Gaza conflict.

In a recording entitled “A Call for Jihad to Stop Aggression Against Gaza,” the al-Qa'ida leader also criticised Arab countries' handling of the conflict.

Gaza medics say more than 1000 Palestinians have been killed, including 292 children, and more than 4500 people wounded in the conflict. Ten Israeli soldiers and three civilians have been killed in combat or by rocket attacks.

“There's an increasing number of women and children being wounded and going to hospitals,” Red Cross spokesman Jakob Kellenberger told reporters in Jerusalem.

Iran meanwhile accused Israel of preventing a Red Crescent ship carrying medicines and food from reaching the Gaza Strip on Wednesday.

An Israeli army spokesman confirmed to AFP that the navy had stopped an Iranian boat from approaching the Gaza coastline. Israel has enforced a naval blockade along the Gaza coast. "



http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,24915304-601,00.html

I think you're reading too much into it sprint. It's just another ceasefire. It's good that hamas is willing to negotiate, but it doesn;t mean they have changed their stance on Israel.

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Syrian President Bashar al-Assad told the BBC that his country was doing everything to mediate a truce and warned that Israel's offensive on the Gaza Strip risks “sowing the seeds of extremism around the region”.

Well we certainly would not want that to happen, especially considering how moderate and peace loving they currently are. ::)

Mozzaok - yes, I read more than a veiled threat there by syria.

f/d - hamas have not mentioned changing their stance on israel.
they just want  some reprieve from getting their butt kicked.
two chances of that my terrorists

Israel is just as keen for a ceasefire as Hamas. They know better than us to avoid a quagmire. This is not some kind of final confrontation with Hamas, it is just another little battle in a long drawn out struggle.

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Israel is just as keen for a ceasefire as Hamas. They know better than us to avoid a quagmire. This is not some kind of final confrontation with Hamas, it is just another little battle in a long drawn out struggle.

Be that as it may, I cannot envisage Israel pulling out until they at least clear the majority of the Hamas leadership out, and put a serious dent in their ability to continue with their rocket barrages.

Whether they will be able to curtail the international pressures against them, long enough to really crush Hamas' fighting capacity is the unknown factor.

Maybe they are just running out of rockets. Up until now it has probably been a case of "Praise the Lord and pass the ammunition".

locutius wrote on Jan 15^th, 2009 at 2:44pm:

Maybe they are just running out of rockets. Up until now it has probably been a case of "Praise the Lord and pass the ammunition".

"Praise the Lord Allan and pass the ammunition".

Soren wrote on Jan 15^th, 2009 at 3:12pm:

locutius wrote on Jan 15th, 2009 at 2:44pm: Maybe they are just running out of rockets. Up until now it has probably been a case of "Praise the Lord and pass the ammunition". "Praise the Lord Allan and pass the ammunition".

Allan?

NorthOfNorth wrote on Jan 15^th, 2009 at 3:18pm:

Soren wrote on Jan 15th, 2009 at 3:12pm: locutius wrote on Jan 15th, 2009 at 2:44pm: Maybe they are just running out of rockets. Up until now it has probably been a case of "Praise the Lord and pass the ammunition". "Praise the Lord Allan and pass the ammunition". Allan?

Allan.
Real.

Allan knows best, don't you know?

locutius wrote on Jan 15^th, 2009 at 2:44pm:

Maybe they are just running out of rockets. Up until now it has probably been a case of "Praise the Lord and pass the ammunition".

Yes, the Iranian ship had not arrived and IDF destroyed most of the smuggling tunnels.
Also IDF started to locate and explode hamas command bunkers where top hamas brass has been hiding and top hamas brass doesn't really love death, that is reserved for hamas low rank canon fodder only.

tallow -
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....where top hamas brass has been hiding and top hamas brass doesn't really love death, that is reserved for hamas low rank canon fodder only. .

Oh, you mean like their kids. Or other muslims kids/women ???

Time for some light relief ......



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".........the Islamists merely indicated support for its “broad outlines”. Hamas leader Ismail Haniya spelled out his conditions for a ceasefire in an article in Britain's Independent newspaper, appealing to Westerners to press for an end to Israel's military onslaught. “Israel must end its criminal war and slaughter of our people, lift completely and unconditionally its illegal siege of the Gaza Strip, open all our border crossings and completely withdraw from Gaza,” he wrote. “After this we would consider future options,” added the leader of the Palestinian movement that rules Gaza.

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,24916746-601,00.html


hahhaha, wadda hide the treacherous hamas have.

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hahhaha, wadda hide the treacherous hamas have.

Yes there is never any permanent truce with infidels. Only a hudna, during which time you consolidate your forces to attack them again.

Even if there is a treaty with the infidels, you are free to break it. Hamas has also said a few times that a truce could last 10 years, but not more than 10 years. Why 10 years? Because that is what Islam permits, a hudna of up to 10 years with infidels.

As with the Treaty of Al-Hudaybiyyah - which is often cited as code by Muslims to say, 'Don't worry, this agreement is only temporary.' This happened with Yassir Arafat for him to reassure his party members about the Oslo Accords.

Have a read of Majid Khadduri's War and Peace and the Law of Islam. I might do a little blogging section on it, soon.

Didn't Israel 'accept in principle' the ceasefire about a week ago? Long before Hamas ever did.

tallowood,


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hamas command bunkers where top hamas brass has been hiding and top hamas brass doesn't really love death, that is reserved for hamas low rank canon fodder only.

Most of the deaths of Hamas members have been of top leadership, this is just nosense. Don't you remembber Ahmed Yassin and Abdul Aziz Rantisi? Two of the political heads of Hamas were assassinated one after the other about 5 years ago. Since then so many top leaders from them have been assassinated. One thing you can't claim with your propagandous garbage is that the topp leaders aren't willing to sacrifice themselves and be in the line of danger, they most certainly are.

I don't see Olmert out on the front line.

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I don't see Olmert out on the front line.

I heard today that Israel's Defence Minister has been pushing for a ceasefire for a week to let humanitarian aid through, but Olmert has dismissed his request and wants them to push on heavily.  After all there's only another 6 days left.

abu_rashid wrote on Jan 15^th, 2009 at 7:34pm:

Didn't Israel 'accept in principle' the ceasefire about a week ago? Long before Hamas ever did. tallowood, Quote: hamas command bunkers where top hamas brass has been hiding and top hamas brass doesn't really love death, that is reserved for hamas low rank canon fodder only. Most of the deaths of Hamas members have been of top leadership, this is just nosense. Don't you remembber Ahmed Yassin and Abdul Aziz Rantisi? Two of the political heads of Hamas were assassinated one after the other about 5 years ago. Since then so many top leaders from them have been assassinated. One thing you can't claim with your propagandous garbage is that the topp leaders aren't willing to sacrifice themselves and be in the line of danger, they most certainly are. I don't see Olmert out on the front line.

Two is the most? They must have leadership crisis then., I wonder why?

But to be serious most of the vermin were eradicated in last few days  that's why they put tail between their legs as their lives are not the same value for them as lives of their dumb followers.

BTW, abu, I think you supply a link to an article only a few days ago that  was quoting Olmert's speech while he was standing on front line. Amazing how you don't read your own links.

abu_rashid wrote on Jan 15^th, 2009 at 7:34pm:

Didn't Israel 'accept in principle' the ceasefire about a week ago? Long before Hamas ever did. tallowood, Quote: hamas command bunkers where top hamas brass has been hiding and top hamas brass doesn't really love death, that is reserved for hamas low rank canon fodder only. Most of the deaths of Hamas members have been of top leadership, this is just nosense. Don't you remembber Ahmed Yassin and Abdul Aziz Rantisi? Two of the political heads of Hamas were assassinated one after the other about 5 years ago. Since then so many top leaders from them have been assassinated. One thing you can't claim with your propagandous garbage is that the topp leaders aren't willing to sacrifice themselves and be in the line of danger, they most certainly are.

But they aren't prepared to sacrifice themselves. Suicide bombing is for women and children. Human shielding is for women and children. Standing up and fighting like a man is for...., well not Hamas anyway. Hamas wouldn't last a day if they fought honourably. For a group that keeps proclaiming to love death like the Israelis love life, they certainly try very hard to get others to do the dying for them. How many of the innocent victims of the wars Hamas start actually love death the way Hamas claims to? My bet is the innocent victims would have preferred life, while so many of the people who claim to love death are still making that claim.