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Message started by freediver on Jan 20th, 2009 at 2:24pm

Title: Quranic Contradictions, Inconsistencies and Errors
Post by freediver on Jan 20th, 2009 at 2:24pm
Samples of Quranic Contradictions, Inconsistencies and Errors.

http://www.faithfreedom.org/Articles/SKM/contradictions.htm

“And no question do they bring to you but We reveal to you the truth and the best explanation” (Quran 25:33).



1- Numerical Contradictions:

2- Creation of the Heaven and Earth

3- Sun-set and Sun-rise

4- A Resting Place For Sun!?

5- Why Allah Created Stars!

6- Is Sky/Heaven A ROOF or Canopy Over the Earth?

7- Does Sun Rotate Around the Earth?

8- Does Earth Spread Out Like Carpet (flat)

9- Is Man Created From Clotted Blood?

10- Is Religion Compulsive or is it not?



Prepared by: Syed Kamran Mirza

Special Note: Quranic ayats are taken mostly from translated Quran by Maulana A. Yousuf Ali and Maulana Muhiuddin Khan.


Numerical contradictions
There are many numerical contradictions in the Quran. Can God make so much error in doing simple calculations?

How many days did it take to create Heavens and Earth ?

Quran 7: 54 Your gurdian-Lord is Allah who created the heavens and earth in Six Days

Quran 10: 3 Verily your Lord is Allah, who created the heavens and earth in Six Days

Quran 11:7 He it is Who created the heavens and earth in Six Days
Quran-25:29: He Who created the heavens and earth and all that is between, in Six Days

The above verses clearly state that God created the heaven and Allah created the heaven and the Earth in 6 days. But the verses below stated-

Quran 41: 9 Is it that ye deny Him who created the earth in Two Days ?

Quran 41: 10 He set on the (earth) Mountains standing firm high above it, and bestowed blessing on the earth, and measured therein all things to give them nourishment in due proportion, in FOUR DAYS…

Quran 41: 12 So He completed them (heavens) as seven firmaments in Two days and …

Now do the math: 2(for earth) + 4(for nourishment) + 2 (for heavens) = 8 days; and not 6 days

Similar mistakes you can see in the verse: Quran 4: 11 - 12, and Quran 4: 176 in inheritance law. In these verses one can see the total property after adding all distributed parties adds up more than the available property, i.e., totals become more than 1 which are: 1.125 and 1.25. How come ? A gross mathematical errors, is not it ?

Allah’s Days Equal to 1000 Years or 50,000 Years?

Quran 22: 47 A day in the sight of the Lord is like a thousand years of your reckoning. Quran-32:5: To Him, on a Day, the space whereof will be a thousands years of your rekoning

Quran 70: 4 The angels and the spirit ascend unto him in a day the measure whereof is Fifty thousands years.

So, which one is it? Is the day of Allah equal to 1,000 earth years or 50,000 earth years?

Creation of the Heaven and Earth
Which one was created first? As you will see in the verses below, Allah at one time says that Earth was created first and another time he says that the Heaven was created first.

Quran 2: 29  It is He who hath created for you all things that are on Earth; THEN He turned to the Heaven and made them into seven firmaments (Skies)….

Quran 79: 27 - 30  Are you the harder to create, or is the heaven that He built? He raised the height thereof and ordered it; and He has made dark the night thereof, and He brought forth the morning thereof. And after that, He spread (flattened) the earth

Now, does it match modern science? Do you believe that, Earth was created first, after that, God created Heaven? Modern science tells us that? Or How come SEVEN firmaments (layers)? Modern science tells us that, actually there is no such thing Sky is no “roof” over us. It is only a space with no known boundary at all. These verses simply reinforce the ancient idea of ROOF over us which is called SKY, is it not so? How funny!

Sun-set and Sun-rise
Koran teaches us that the Sun sets in a muddy spring:

Quran 18: 86 Till, when he (the traveller Zul-qarnain) reached the setting-place of the Sun, he found it going down into a muddy spring…

Quran 18: 90 Till, when he reached the rising-place of the Sun, he found it rising on a people for whom We had appointed no shelter from it.

Serious scientific errors here! Firstly, it is scientifically accepted fact that, the Sun never go down in a muddy spring. Secondly, this seems to presuppose a FLAT Earth, otherwise how can there be an extreme point in the West or in the East? A sunrise there would be basically just the same as at any other place on this earth, at land or sea. It would still look as if it is setting “far away”. It does say, that he reached THE PLACE where the Sun sets and in his second Journey the place where it rises.

A resting place for Sun!?
Quran 36: 38 And the sun runneth on unto a resting place for him. That is the measuring of the Mighty, the Wise.
Quran 36: 39 And for the moon We have appointed mansions till she return like an old shrivelled palm leaf.
Quran 36: 40  It is not for Sun to overtake the moon, nor doth the night outstrip the day. They float each in an orbit.

Allah is indeed a big scientist. Where is sun and where is moon situated? Can anybody tell me how they could collide/meet/overtake each other? Are the sun and the moon neighbors to each other? I have the answer for this error: Ancient Allah saw (bare eye observations) sun and moon traveling from east to west seemingly in the same Sky area or same path, without colliding, causing day and night etc. Allah hardly could imagine that all these phenomena are

Title: Re: Quranic Contradictions, Inconsistencies and Errors
Post by abu_rashid on Jan 20th, 2009 at 7:59pm
Some of these have already been addressed in the spirituality forum a long time ago...


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Can God make so much error in doing simple calculations?



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Allah created the heaven and the Earth in 6 days.



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Now do the math: 2(for earth) + 4(for nourishment) + 2 (for heavens) = 8 days; and not 6 days


No contradiction there. All of the verses agree to 6 days for heaven and earth. Adding nourishment to one side of the equation does not make the equation incorrect, it merely puts the equation out of balance.

I think you are the one who needs to brush up their maths skills.


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Allah’s Days Equal to 1000 Years or 50,000 Years?


The word "Yawm" can have the meaning of day but it can also mean any arbitrary period of time.


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Creation of the Heaven and Earth
Which one was created first?


If you look at the verse closer, you'll see it actually says the heavens already existed....


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It is He who hath created for you all things that are on Earth; THEN He turned to the Heaven and made them into seven firmaments


Bit hard to turn to something that doesn't already exist, isn't it?


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Serious scientific errors here! Firstly, it is scientifically accepted fact that, the Sun never go down in a muddy spring.


This is quite obviously a poetic description of the sun setting in the backdrop of a lake, therefore indicating that he was travelling to the West. As later verses quoted show, the sun is described as being in an orbit...


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Where is sun and where is moon situated?


Actually, the verse about the sun doesn't state it's location,  it says it runs along in a fixed manner.

Likewise the verse for the moon does  not state where it's situated.


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Can anybody tell me how they could collide/meet/overtake each other?


On the contrary, it says they cannot.



Title: Re: Quranic Contradictions, Inconsistencies and Errors
Post by Lestat on Jan 20th, 2009 at 8:03pm
haha...once again freediver made to look like the fool he is...and I bet the goose will come back for me.

Keep it coming Freediver, keep embarrassing yourself...ironically your actually proving the divinity of the Quran with your foolish attempts to discredit it.

Title: Re: Quranic Contradictions, Inconsistencies and Errors
Post by Gaybriel on Jan 21st, 2009 at 5:58pm
lestat- it's better for freediver to ask these questions that not

many people are put off by what seems to be inconsistencies in holy texts

you shouldn't mock others for seeking knowledge. even if freediver doesn't benefit from it, others will

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