Well I just heard on the radio, that the local muslim community, are having a sausage sizzle, this weekend, to raise money for the bushfire victims.
It is to be held at 955 Sydney Rd, North Coburg, between 12:00 Noon, and 4:00 PM, I believe it is this Saturday, but it may be Sunday, so perhaps Abu could confirm which one it is.

This is an excellent way for our local muslims to engage with the broader community and to do so in the support of such a worthy cause, will hopefully encourage many to go down, and join in, to raise as much as they can for those in need.

I look forward to seeing more of this type of effort in the future, where the whole community comes together to promote worthy causes, and maybe a few prejudices, and stereotypes will get left behind, and we can help shape a more inclusive future for all aussies.

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I look forward to seeing more of this type of effort in the future, where the whole community comes together to promote worthy causes, and maybe a few prejudices, and stereotypes will get left behind, and we can help shape a more inclusive future for all aussies.

Dream on, bucko.

That's where we went wrong with the Third Reich. Not enough community sausage sizzles were organised between them and their neighbours.

Is it free?
I just love pork sausage and bacon rolls.

I realise that you have given up on the idea of people living peacefully, together, and showing mutual tolerance and respect, but I haven't.

I also think your parallel with the third reich, is more appropriate from the perspective of the good german, so inculcated with the demonisation of jews, that they could accept the final solution as a necessity, rather than an abhomination.

Can you picture yourself pushing muslims into gas chambers Calanen?
For the greater good, of course.

Amadd wrote on Feb 26^th, 2009 at 5:42pm:

Is it free? I just love pork sausage and bacon rolls.

LOL



Amadd,

Hey you cheap skate!!        ;)

Why not bring your own pork sausages, to share!         ;D



Just kidding.

mozzaok wrote on Feb 26^th, 2009 at 5:45pm:

I realise that you have given up on the idea of people living peacefully, together, and showing mutual tolerance and respect, but I haven't.

Hi moz,

I don't know if Calanen has given up on peaceful co-existence?

I don't believe Calanen's attitude to ppl unlike himself, is the main problem here.





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I also think your parallel with the third reich, is more appropriate from the perspective of the good german, so inculcated with the demonisation of jews, that they could accept the final solution as a necessity, rather than an abhomination. Can you picture yourself pushing muslims into gas chambers Calanen? For the greater good, of course.

moz,

Why do you believe Calanen would???





Devout muslims are their own worst enemies [it seems to many ppl].

Their philosophy seems to attract violence wherever they go.

mozzaok wrote on Feb 26^th, 2009 at 5:45pm:

I realise that you have given up on the idea of people living peacefully, together, and showing mutual tolerance and respect, but I haven't.

The fundamental assumption at the bottom of this admirable sentiment is that
1/  religion is as secondary to everyone as it is to you and therefore
2/ common humanity is the rock that we are ultimately all standing on.

The assumption is untenable, as demonstrated daily. Wanting to believe it is not enough. On the other hand, the recognition that the assumption is not universal doesn't mark a lurking nazi.

It does not mean that the assumption is not morally right. It is. To put anything ahead of our shared humanity is either stupid or malicious. But that does not prevent it to be widespread. Nazism or religious fanaticism or mere unthinking dogmatism are mere examples of the many, many more ways to trump common humanity.

Arian national socialism or uncritical adherence to islam both trrump common humanity in their adherents' minds. Yet it does not make an uncritical muslim a nazi or a nazi an uncritical muslim. It just makes them both either stupid or malicious, independently from one another, on account of both rejecting the same thing - our common humanity. They are not the only categories, there are many others who also put something above our common bonds.

(this is not a challenge or an argument, neither 5 nor the full 15 minutes)

mozzaok wrote on Feb 26^th, 2009 at 5:45pm:

I realise that you have given up on the idea of people living peacefully, together, and showing mutual tolerance and respect, but I haven't.

Mutual respect for an ideology that wants to completely destroy your society and reign supreme over you through the use of warfare, terror, beheading? Mutual respect for an ideology that says your laws are an abomination, that must be ignored and destroyed to install sharia?

Mutual respect for an ideology - that divides the whole world into us and them - the House of Islam, and the House of War. Guess where we live habibi? And says that it is their duty to wage jihad against the House of War? Take infidel women as war booty?


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I also think your parallel with the third reich, is more appropriate from the perspective of the good german, so inculcated with the demonisation of jews, that they could accept the final solution as a necessity, rather than an abhomination.

The parallel with the Third Reich is very accurate. Nazism was a supremacist idoelogy that had an irrational psychopathic hatred of Jews and sought to destroy all other societies through warfare to reign supreme over everyone else.

Islam is a supremacist ideology that has an irrational psychopathic hatred of Jews, and seeks to destroy all other societies through warfare to reign supreme over everyone else.


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Can you picture yourself pushing muslims into gas chambers Calanen? For the greater good, of course.

Yes, because I want to stand up and stop Islam - I am a Nazi. It's like saying those who wanted to stand up to the Third Reich were Germanophobes.

Forget tolerance - forget mutual respect. Islam has no tolerance or respect for you and it wants you dead. Your society dead. Your children, wife, family, religion, laws and government,

DEAD.

Get that through your thick skull you moral relativist brainwashed imbecile - or better still - read some Islamic texts.

See what they really think. If everyone had read Mein Kampf, they would have seen Hitler's invasion of Russia a mile off. But not even the Russians believed it. Idiots.

Calanen wrote on Feb 26^th, 2009 at 9:37pm:

.....I want to stand up and stop Islam - I am a Nazi. It's like saying those who wanted to stand up to the Third Reich were Germanophobes. Forget tolerance - forget mutual respect. Islam has no tolerance or respect for you and it wants you dead. Your society dead. Your children, wife, family, religion, laws and government, DEAD.

Calanen,

The ISLAMIST conquers don't intentionally kill the women and children.

They become part of the valuable 'war booty'.




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The Jewish tribe of Banu Qureza, in a besieged settlement were persuaded to surrender to Muhammad and his warriors.

After their surrender, Muhammad asked one of his commanders to determine what should be the fate of those who had surrendered.

From Hadith.....

"......Sad said, "Kill their (men) warriors and take their [women and] offspring as captives, "On that the Prophet said, "You have judged according to Allah's Judgment,""
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/fundamentals/hadithsunnah/bukhari/059.sbt.html#005.059.447




"In the name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful."
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/quran/001.qmt.html#001.001

Thanks for that news mozza. I wasn't aware of the sausage sizzle, but unfortunately I won't be able to make it, as I won't be in Melbourne on that day. However I will endeavour to find out the exact details for you.

I hope you can get down there and actually get to meet some Muslims in real life, instead of just hearing about them through biased news articles, and the rantings of self-professed nazis like calanen.

abu_rashid wrote on Feb 26^th, 2009 at 10:47pm:

Thanks for that news mozza. I wasn't aware of the sausage sizzle, but unfortunately I won't be able to make it, as I won't be in Melbourne on that day. However I will endeavour to find out the exact details for you. I hope you can get down there and actually get to meet some Muslims in real life, instead of just hearing about them through biased news articles, and the rantings of self-professed nazis like calanen.

Dear oh dear Abu - such low brow stuff. I'll remember to use the roll your eyes smiley next time.

If I was really saying I was a Nazi, I would not have made unflattering comparisons between Nazism and Islam. So just for the record, I hate them both.  Please keep taking your cheapshots though. I understand rhetorical devices are normally above the pay grade of humourless muslim wannabees like yourself.

Of course I accept what you say Calanen, you were responding to me, and I appreciated that your reply was facetious, and of course your answer was to reply in the affirmative, to highlight the personal ridiculousness of the proposition.

I never offered the question as anything but a tool, to act as a comparative reference of what can happen when a particular cultural group is demonised, and because I disagree vehemently with your contention that massive conflict with Islam is inevitable, I used the gas chamber reference as a shock tactic.

However, to see Abu then take that quote, and try to portray that as a true representation of your views, is very disappointing, and I would have to assume is disingenuous, unless he is so unable to understand the subtleties of language to recognise sarcasm when he sees it, and neither option does him credit.

mozza,

I'm sorry, but I don't see the prospect of being herded into a gas chamber as amusing, nor something that should be toyed with. If you didn't mean it seriously, then your question was in very poor taste.

And I wholeheartedly believe Calanen would have few qualms about engaging in such an activity. He is dedicated to the demonisation and eradication of Muslims and has stated many times in various different ways he'd like to see Muslims disappear off the face off the earth.

You can try and claim it was all quite light hearted, but when we look at Calanen's history, it's obvious he feels quite sincerely about such activities. You might find it hard to believe mozza, but this is what paranoid and unchecked hatred does to people's souls, turns them into blood thirsty hatemongers, who have no problem considering fellow humans as sub-human.

If you fail to recognise this, then it means you're perhaps partially on the road to joining this loon. In which case I'm quite concerned about you as well.

abu_rashid wrote on Feb 27^th, 2009 at 9:13am:

mozza, Quote: I'm sorry, but I don't see the prospect of being herded into a gas chamber as amusing, nor something that should be toyed with. If you didn't mean it seriously, then your question was in very poor taste. Yet the Thug in Chief for Iran likes to deny the holocaust. Given he is your poster child. [quote]And I wholeheartedly believe Calanen would have few qualms about engaging in such an activity. He is dedicated to the demonisation and eradication of Muslims and has stated many times in various different ways he'd like to see Muslims disappear off the face off the earth.

Not muslims. ISLAM. If Muslims renounce their ways, sincerely, such as the Bahai faith does, of supremacism and wanting to destroy my society than Pax Australis. If muslims stick to jihad somewhere else, fine by me - I dont care. Jihad in the West though, big big problem.

If not then we come to blows. The stuff about gas chambers is just you using over the top rhetoric to demonize the legitimate critics of Islam.

The reason i get to you more than anyone else, is I know how the magic trick is performed. I've seen behind the curtain of all your Al Taqiyya, and I know what you are up to. And that burns you right up doesnt it? That there is actually one of a few infidels out there you cant fool? And maybe this infidel can convince the other infidel sheep..and gee that would be bad. So better demonize him quick - NAZI - GAS CHAMBER OPERATOR!! Nothing to see here move along.

Even if it means taking the last part of my sentence and not including it in your sig. If you were honest, you would put the second half of it in. But you are not, so keep as you are.


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You can try and claim it was all quite light hearted, but when we look at Calanen's history, it's obvious he feels quite sincerely about such activities.

Is it? What's my history except standing up for my own society - the one you have decided to be a traitor too? An ideology uses deception to mask its true stated aim, to destroy my society, my laws, my family structure, my courts, my banking, my economy. And I'm just expected to stand around like a good little dhimmi and let it happen? Not on your life. Call me a Nazi if you want - I will only be stopped with death.

You guys think that you are the 'hardest' on the planet in terms of what you believe. Abu - meet the Irish.



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You might find it hard to believe mozza, but this is what paranoid and unchecked hatred does to people's souls, turns them into blood thirsty hatemongers, who have no problem considering fellow humans as sub-human.

I consider the Islamic ideology as a flawed supremacist ideology that requires people not of the religion to live as slaves under Islamic rulers. If that is not demonising persons, I dont know what is. It considers fellow humans as sub-humans not me.


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If you fail to recognise this, then it means you're perhaps partially on the road to joining this loon. In which case I'm quite concerned about you as well.

The only loon around here is you if you think that your lowbrow demonization techniques take the legitimacy from what I have to say. I note also that you make sweeping statements about what I say, instead of quoting me. Which is much easier than dealing with the truth of what I say:

Which scares the hell out of you. As it should.

Calanen,


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Yet the Thug in Chief for Iran likes to deny the holocaust. Given he is your poster child.

This statement is quite indicative of just how wrong you've got it all, isn't it?

Firstly, I'm not Shi'a, so I really don't care too much for Mr. Ahmedinejad, and he could hardly be called my "poster child".

Secondly, the conference he held was in response to the offensive Danish cartoons. He wanted to test if the West really believed in freedom of speech (even if it upsets a certain religion) or if it's just hypocritical garbage, and he was proven right. And wouldn't you prefer people responding to the cartoons in that kind of manner, than in a more violent manner? Also some Jewish groups attended the conference anyway, which indicates it can't have been all that bad.


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Not muslims. ISLAM. If Muslims renounce their ways, sincerely, such as the Bahai faith does, of supremacism and wanting to destroy my society than Pax Australis.

Your whole claim of Muslims (note: the term Muslims refers to all 1.6 billion, not just some small splinter groups in the foothills of Pakistan) secretly working to demolish your society would be laughable, if it wasn't potentially so dangerous. The Bahai haven't renounced any of 'their ways' as far as I am aware, perhaps you can elaborate on that one a little?


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If muslims stick to jihad somewhere else, fine by me

What you need to come to grips with is that the vast majority of Muslims are not waging any jihad whatsoever. Those people who are, are usually people directly affected by the foreign policy decisions of the West for the past century. You need to learn to link things up with their cause, and the West at large needs to learn this lesson. Because the fact is, what goes around, comes around. The West has been doing a lot of nasty stuff in Muslim countries for a long time now, and it's beginning to come back to haunt them. The onus is upon the perpetrators of the hostilities to first stop their hostile acts in Muslim countries, and second to make amends for the damage already done. Until this occurs, there's probably not much chance of those 'radical' elements calming down.

But that's all irrelevant to you. Your ideology is based upon the premise that Muslims are sub-humans, and no matter what is perpetrated against them, retaliating is just unthinkable. I mean, how dare they, sub-humans, think they can respond in kind to the actions of us full human Westerners... the cheek of such underlings.

Wake up to the reality!! All humans are equal, and when you mess up peoples lives/countries... chances are, they'll goto any lengths to do it back to you... it's not that hard to figure out. Unless your brain is just completely clogged up with hateful propaganda.


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The stuff about gas chambers is just you using over the top rhetoric to demonize the legitimate critics of Islam.

Completely your own words, nothing to do with me using anything, over the top or not. I never mentioned nor imagined gas chambers.


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The reason i get to you more than anyone else, is I know how the magic trick is performed.

There's no magic trick, and you don't get to me. You just worry me because ethno-conspiracy loons like you incited stuff like the Jewish pogoroms in Europe and Russia. Some Jewish intellectuals have even noted that the claims of people like yourself almost directly mirror that of the European anti-Semites leading up to those horrible events.


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I've seen behind the curtain of all your Al Taqiyya, and I know what you are up to.

You are truly delusional. As I have pointed out to you before, Taqiyyah is merely the license to feign apostasy in order to save your life. And to tell you the truth, in my ten years as a Muslim, the only time I've ever really heard of the term is in connection with the Shi'a (who used it to save their lifes under some Sunni regimes in the past). It's simply not the central tenet of Islam you've been duped into thinking it is.


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So better demonize him quick - NAZI - GAS CHAMBER OPERATOR!! Nothing to see here move along.

As you well know, it was all your own words. I never mentioned anything of the kind.

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A direct quote from abu,


abu_rashid wrote on Feb 27^th, 2009 at 5:06pm:

Wake up to the reality!! All humans are equal, and when you mess up peoples lives/countries... chances are, they'll goto any lengths to do it back to you... it's not that hard to figure out. Unless your brain is just completely clogged up with hateful propaganda.

Wow!

Where did that come from abu?





So as a muslim, you are stating on this forum, that non-muslims are equal to muslims?

At last, progress.

But i wouldn't let your brothers hear you making such claims!!!
/sarc off

That statement goes against so much of what ISLAM currently states on that matter [on 'unbelievers'].

For instance, what about JOOS?



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The Koran states that it is Allah's will, that muslims must fight against, and exterminate the Jewish ppl.

And here is a muslim cleric, STATING IT.

YOUTUBE
"Hamas - Quran says Jews to be exterminated"
http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=Lsvqcp4aWF8





Jews & Christians are peoples who are cursed by Allah.
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/quran/009.qmt.html#009.030

i.e. Jews & Christians are 'unprotected' from muslim aggression / violence.

Koran,

"....those who reject (Allah),- for them is destruction, and (Allah) will render their deeds astray (from their mark).
....those who reject Allah have no protector."
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/quran/047.qmt.html#047.008
v. 8-11



"On his death-bed Allah's Apostle....said, "May Allah's Curse be on the Jews and the Christians....."
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/fundamentals/hadithsunnah/bukhari/056.sbt.html#004.056.660





The Hadith [along with many, many, muslim clerics who concur], encourages the extermination of Jews,

"Allah's Apostle said, "The Hour will not be established until you fight with the Jews, and the stone behind which a Jew will be hiding will say. "O Muslim! There is a Jew hiding behind me, so kill him." "
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/fundamentals/hadithsunnah/bukhari/052.sbt.html#004.052.177


Google,
until muslims exterminate jews
http://www.google.com.au/search?hl=en&q=until+muslims+exterminate+jews&btnG=Google+Search&meta=

We also have christian preachers claiming that homos need to be eradicated, and that aids was god's punisment for gays and addicts, so the fact is that many religious zealots preach hateful stuff, not just muslims.

So attaching guilt for the words of extremists, to all followers of any religion, will not give us a true representation of how the average person thinks.
I agree with Abu, people are equal, and I think most people, of most faiths, would agree with that sentiment.

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So attaching guilt for the words of extremists, to all followers of any religion, will not give us a true representation of how the average person thinks. I agree with Abu, people are equal, and I think most people, of most faiths, would agree with that sentiment.

You'd be wrong.

The core beliefs of Islam that you believe to be radical, are what the so called moderate muslims believe. Learn a bit about Islam, what they really believe. Surely Abu's bulls**** is enough to trouble you with what they believe, out of his own mouth?

Didnt you see what I posted from the Muslim Brotherhood's own manual? Didn't that just wake you up even a little bit from your denial?

Nobody wants to believe there is a huge movement to destroy us. But disbelieving the hurricane wont make it go away. Its going to touch down here sooner or later, like it has for more than 1000 years, raping, killing, pillaging, attacking. The so called moderate nature of Islam is there for all to see with the thousands and thousands of people killed every day in the most brutal abominable ways. All for very good reasons of course.

There may be moderate muslims - but there is no moderate Islam.

mozzaok wrote on Feb 28^th, 2009 at 4:02pm:

We also have christian preachers claiming that homos need to be eradicated, and that aids was god's punisment for gays and addicts, so the fact is that many religious zealots preach hateful stuff, not just muslims. So attaching guilt for the words of extremists, to all followers of any religion, will not give us a true representation of how the average person thinks. I agree with Abu, people are equal, and I think most people, of most faiths, would agree with that sentiment.

moz,

I'm just here waiting [in disbelief!], for abu to come on, and to qualify that statement he made!!!       :o

Yadda,


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Where did that come from abu?

Don't think I've ever stated otherwise, so it shouldn't be that surprising.


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For instance, what about JOOS?

The claims about Muslims and Jews are mostly nonsense. Muslims  today are fighting Jews in Palestine because they've mass immigrated there and taken over the country. Any people would resist, or be weaklings who'd be wiped out, simple. That doesn't lend any credibility though to your claims Islam wants to wipe out Jews. You are well aware they were always treated much better under Islam than under Christianity. But when you mass immigrate into someone's country, they kinda get a little angry with you... who could blame them, really? How would you respond? With love and hugs and kisses right? All that turning the other cheek stuff is just fairytales and you know it. Christians never have, and never will practise it, they just preach it, for propaganda's sake.

Also let us not forget many Christian Arabs have actually martyred themselves fighting against the Zionist entity, not just Muslims. I actually posted a quiz about this not so long ago, not surprisingly  nobody answered it.


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The Koran states that it is Allah's will, that muslims must fight against, and exterminate the Jewish ppl

It does no such thing. Once again, you prove yourself to be nothing but a cowardly liar.


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And here is a muslim cleric, STATING IT.

Again, all we get is "Some cleric said such and such". Sorry I follow Islam, not "some cleric". As I've stated on enough occasions already, there's no such thing as a clergy nor a cleric in Islam.


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Jews & Christians are peoples who are cursed by Allah.

Yes, anyone who follows a false/polytheistic religion is cursed. Your own Bible states exactly the same too, calling them and their beliefs abominations.


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i.e. Jews & Christians are 'unprotected' from muslim aggression / violence.

It says nothing of the kind, this is your imagination, only.

It's quite obvious the meaning is that anyone who rejects God, also rejects his protection and his guidance, and his favour etc.

Do you disagree with this? Do you think the rejecters are the recipients of his favour and protection?


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I'm just here waiting [in disbelief!]

Well you'd better think about becoming a believer then... that's the only way to rise out of your unbelief. :)

Calanen,


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Didnt you see what I posted from the Muslim Brotherhood's own manual?

You are a liar. You never quoted anything from their 'own manual'.

abu_rashid wrote on Mar 1^st, 2009 at 1:49pm:

Calanen, Quote: Didnt you see what I posted from the Muslim Brotherhood's own manual? You are a liar. You never quoted anything from their 'own manual'.

Oh yes I did Abu, Liar Extraordinaire.

Here it is:

http://www.nefafoundation.org/miscellaneous/HLF/Akram_GeneralStrategicGoal.pdf

It outlines the General Strategic Goal for the Muslim Brotherhood in North America.

Are you a member of the Muslim Brotherhood by any chance Abu? Doing a bit of al taqiyya for them?

Here is a document analysing what happened at a meeting in 1993 of the Brotherhood. Very telling. FD should read this:

http://www.nefafoundation.org/miscellaneous/93Phillyfinal.pdf

Very much worth reading. You especially should read it moazzak. I think you are naive more than wilfully blind.

http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/6121/screenhunter01feb191657.jpg

Well if it's on nefa, then it must be correct.

Btw, I found a document on an Iranian charity's website which it says is from the U.S government admitting they did 9/11, wanna see it?  ;D

As I said, if your hate wasn't so vicious and foul, you'd be a laughable character.

Yeah, yeah Calanen, they’re acomin through the walls… Keep stirring it up lawboy.

What’s the name of this thread again? “Muslim sausage sizzle”? And who are the fanatical extremists again?

And then there’s Ireland… After 400 years of practicing arch-conservative, hardline Catholicism, now that religio-cultural persecution real and perceived has evaporated, the Irish are returning to religious moderation and Catholicism in Ireland is in rapid decline… They may have been ready to concede the loss of their language… but they defended the faith of their fathers to the death… and won.

Persecute a religion and as sure as Paddy likes a pint, it’ll grow back tougher, meaner and harder…. Boyo

abu_rashid wrote on Mar 1^st, 2009 at 1:39pm:

.... Quote: The Koran states that it is Allah's will, that muslims must fight against, and exterminate the Jewish ppl It does no such thing. Once again, you prove yourself to be nothing but a cowardly liar. [quote]And here is a muslim cleric, STATING IT.

Again, all we get is "Some cleric said such and such". Sorry I follow Islam, not "some cleric". As I've stated on enough occasions already, there's no such thing as a clergy nor a cleric in Islam.
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abu accuses me....

".....Once again, you prove yourself to be nothing but a cowardly liar."


No abu.

Once again, i prove that muslims are cowardly liars.

That muslim cleric [in the YOUTUBE clip], claims that the Koran calls on muslims, incites and encourages muslims, to exterminate Jews.

WHICH YOU CLAIM IS A LIE!!!!

But you do not criticise that muslim cleric.

Instead, you criticise myself, for pointing out the,
....INCITEMENT TO MURDER JEWS, AND THE
....INCITEMENT OF THE HATRED OF THE JEWISH PEOPLE,
which muslim clerics engage in.






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[quote]Jews & Christians are peoples who are cursed by Allah.

Yes, anyone who follows a false/polytheistic religion is cursed. Your own Bible states exactly the same too, calling them and their beliefs abominations.


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i.e. Jews & Christians are 'unprotected' from muslim aggression / violence.

It says nothing of the kind, this is your imagination, only.

It's quite obvious the meaning is that anyone who rejects God, also rejects his protection and his guidance, and his favour etc.

Do you disagree with this? Do you think the rejecters are the recipients of his favour and protection?

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abu,

Oh!!!!

It is only...

'His [Allah's] protection'

And YOU ARE SAYING that it is wrong for muslims to fight against unbelievers?

Are you?

And that only Allah acts against unbelievers?

And that it is illegal in ISLAM for a muslim to fight against 'unbelievers', because they are 'unbelievers'?


"Allah 's Apostle said, " I have been ordered to fight with the people till they say, 'None has the right to be worshipped but Allah,' ...."
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/fundamentals/hadithsunnah/bukhari/052.sbt.html#004.052.196


"Allah's Apostle said, "The Hour will not be established until you fight with the Jews, and the stone behind which a Jew will be hiding will say. "O Muslim! There is a Jew hiding behind me, so kill him." "
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/fundamentals/hadithsunnah/bukhari/052.sbt.html#004.052.177







This next Koran verse is an INCITEMENT, to muslims, to MURDER 'unbelievers'.

Koran,

"....those who reject (Allah),- for them is destruction, and (Allah) will render their deeds astray (from their mark).
....those who reject Allah have no protector."
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/quran/047.qmt.html#047.008
v. 8-11


YOU MAY DENY IT.

BUT EVERY DAY MUSLIMS ACT UPON SUCH VERSES, AND MURDER PEOPLE.


JUST ONE EXAMPLE, AS PROOF THAT I AM SPEAKING THE TRUTH....

February 5, 2008
70-year-old woman, convert from Islam to Christianity, burned to death in Bangladesh
....DHAKA, BANGLADESH (BosNewsLife)-- Christian villagers in a Muslim-majority area of Bangladesh on Tuesday, February 5, mourned the death of a 70-year-old woman who died from burns she suffered when a mob reportedly set her home ablaze as a punishment for converting from Islam to Christianity.
http://www.jihadwatch.org/dhimmiwatch/archives/019813.php



BUT INSTEAD OF CONDEMNING THE ACTIONS OF SUCH MUSLIMS,
....YOU PREFER TO CALL ME A LIAR.





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abu,

Here is my rebuke, to your duplicity, from the Koran....



"Behold! they fold up their hearts, that they may lie hid from Him! Ah even when they cover themselves with their garments, He knoweth what they conceal, and what they reveal: for He knoweth well the (inmost secrets) of the hearts."
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/quran/011.qmt.html#011.005


"Then, on the Day of Judgment,.....Then would they offer submission (with the pretence), "We did no evil (knowingly)." (The angels will reply), "Nay, but verily Allah knoweth all that ye did;"
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/quran/016.qmt.html#016.027
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abu_rashid wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2009 at 1:24am:

Well if it's on nefa, then it must be correct. Btw, I found a document on an Iranian charity's website which it says is from the U.S government admitting they did 9/11, wanna see it?  ;D As I said, if your hate wasn't so vicious and foul, you'd be a laughable character.

This document was part of Muslim Brotherhood papers seized in a US Federal warrant. It was admitted into evidence over objection in the Holy Land Foundation trial.

It is obviously genuine.

You cant just scream 'fake' whenever anything appears that is inconvenient for you Abu.

No, you are an Al Taqiyaa black belt, so of course you can. Carry on.