http://www.youtube.com/v/DXYbMcYYOT8

UK jihadist Anjem Choudary explains how Islam will take over the UK.

He must be another one of those misunderstanders of the true peaceful message of Islam, quick send him an email Abu and correct his misunderstanding.

More accurately, tell him to stop saying these things in English and on film - don't want the dhimmis to find out before the takeover plan is ready! Gees.

Calanen,

"...UK jihadist Anjem Choudary explains how Islam will take over the UK."


Thank you, for this YOUTUBE link.

A particularly revealing presentation.



I regard Anjem Choudary as an extra-ordinary muslim.

Whether he is being interviewed on the Kuffar TV in the UK, or in this case, talking to the 'brothers',
Anjem Choudary is quite often a very 'straight talker', when discussing the objectives of the muslims, within host countries.

Listen to just a few of his YOUTUBE presentations, and you are left with no doubt, what he and his brothers are seeking [for themselves].

there'll be ... tit... er.... for tat.

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got an ontopic comment here abu ???

do you realise you are prob under surveillance.
sucker

I want to see flag of Allah flying over Downing St
David Cohen
13.03.09
Look here too

A Muslim fundamentalist leader today told of his vision of Britain under Sharia law.

Anjem Choudary said he wanted the “flag of Allah” flying over Downing Street, all women wearing burkas and caning for drunkenness.

He is the leader of Ahlus Sunnah wal Jamaah, founded as a successor to the banned fundamentalist sect al-Muhajiroun, which was led by now-exiled preacher Omar Bakri Muhammad.

The self-proclaimed Sharia judge admitted his followers had organised protests against British soldiers in Luton this week, waving placards which called them “murderers” for their conduct in Iraq.

Mr Choudary, a 41-year-old lawyer, said he was proud to be reviled. “It's inevitable that when you offer an alternative morality and way of life many people will hate you for it.”

He said this “alternative morality” would mean “a pure Islamic state with Sharia law in Britain” and added: “Every woman, whether Muslim or non-Muslim, would have to wear a traditional burka and cover everything apart from her face and hands in public.”

“In matters to do with the judicial system and the penal code, one male witness is sufficient to counter the testimony of two females. People who commit adultery would be stoned to death.”

Mr Choudary, a father of three, admitted he lived off benefits despite objecting to the British state. He rejected suggestions of hypocrisy, saying: “I don't think it's of any importance.”

http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/article-23661857-details/I+want+to+see+flag+of+Allah+flying+over+Downing+St/article.do

Good on him for being honest calanen

I wish all muslims could be so honest and say openly they follow a paedophillic assassainating warlord and desire to rule the world or die trying.

It'ld make the wests decisions MUCH easier.

Calanen wrote on Mar 14^th, 2009 at 6:58pm:

Mr Choudary, a father of three, admitted he lived off benefits despite objecting to the British state. He rejected suggestions of hypocrisy, saying: “I don't think it's of any importance.”

The rest is padding.

Soren wrote on Mar 14^th, 2009 at 8:05pm:

Calanen wrote on Mar 14th, 2009 at 6:58pm: Mr Choudary, a father of three, admitted he lived off benefits despite objecting to the British state. He rejected suggestions of hypocrisy, saying: “I don't think it's of any importance.” The rest is padding.

As I've said before, ALL the people charged with terrorist crimes in Australia got Legal Aid because they were on welfare

Every....single....one.

Calanen wrote on Mar 14^th, 2009 at 8:10pm:

Soren wrote on Mar 14th, 2009 at 8:05pm: Calanen wrote on Mar 14th, 2009 at 6:58pm: Mr Choudary, a father of three, admitted he lived off benefits despite objecting to the British state. He rejected suggestions of hypocrisy, saying: “I don't think it's of any importance.” The rest is padding. As I've said before, ALL the people charged with terrorist crimes in Australia got Legal Aid because they were on welfare Every....single....one.

Probably because hangin's too good for 'em....

Their credibility is in the toilet. We are just too polite to be harsh on them on account of their being tinted - not wanting to offend the blameless mass of tinted people.

It was easy to call the blond and blue eyed soviet Russians the evil empire.  With th darkeer races it is unseemly to speak the language of 'dark forces' and so forth. And once they are onto the race victim bandwagon, there is no prising them off it.

But look at the Choudary fellow - a pakistani prick who wouldd squel like a stuck piglet if he were to be repatriated to the ancestral land.

There is no problem booting Russians out of Britain, happens to this day. Booting tinted crazies out - all of a sudden it doesn't matter what they are saying, what matters is the tinting. And pigmentation makes evee the firebrand jihadi very sensitive and touchy victim of oppression.

Colonialism ended far, far too soon.

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and added: “Every woman, whether Muslim or non-Muslim, would have to wear a traditional burka and cover everything apart from her face and hands in public.”

Not another one of those fabricated satires is it Calanen?

Sure sounds like it to me. Firstly, I think Mr Choudary would be well aware the Burka does not equal covering everything but hands and face. And secondly he'd be unlikely to use the term Burka, which is restricted only to usage in Afghanistan, both the outfit and the term.

I have very strong doubts that this is a quotation of him, yet it appears there's quotation marks around the words. Can you clarify this one for us Calanen?

abu the deciever -  afghanistans think they follow the paed. moh. very well.

who are you to disagree you latecomer ??
show them where they are wrong

We're all safe and cosy here...

Australia has 48 separate pieces of anti-terrorism legislation, more than the US and the UK and you are 20 times more likely to have your phone tapped in Australia than in the US.

And if you’re resident in NSW, State Police there access more telecommunications data than anywhere else in Australia, making more than half of all access requests.

Should be enough to make us all sleep soundly at night….  :o

A blow-me-down-wiv-a-feather piece of new: a muslim stood up to the slamist cadres and won.


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/religion/5126155/Imam-wins-landmark-battle-against-Muslim-McCarthyism.html

An imam who supports women not wearing a full veil has won a landmark legal battle against "Muslim McCarthyism" after being accused of holding non-Muslim beliefs.
Dr Taj Hargey won substantial damages from the Muslim Weekly newspaper in a High Court libel case after it accused him of not being a true Muslim.
Dr Hargey said: "This historic case highlights the right to freedom and dissent within the British Muslim community and represents a crushing defeat for Muslim McCarthyism in this country.
"Just as US politicians terrorized the American electorate by unfairly labelling their foes as communists or communist sympathisers, the Muslim clergy uses the same intimadatory tactics to impose theological uniformity and cultural compliance in the community.
"Iconoclastic thinkers, liberals and non-conformists who dare to challenge this self-assumed religious authority in Islam by presenting a rational or alternative interpretation of their faith are invariably branded as apostates, heretics and non-believers."
His advocate, David Price, told Mr Justice Eady that the May 2006 article (of the Muslim News) alleged that Dr Hargey held himself out as the chairman of MECO (Muslim Educational Centre of Oxford ) and a practising Muslim when he was a Qadiani and therefore a non-Muslim - a matter that he sought to conceal.
It also alleged that he was misleading the public by holding himself out as the chairman of a Muslim organisation and arranging events in that capacity, notwithstanding his true non-Muslim beliefs.
Mr Price said that it also claimed that Dr Hargey was sacked from his post teaching Islamic studies at the University of Cape Town as a result of the fact that he was a closet Qadiani. Qadiani is a derogatory term for Ahmadiyya, a group not regarded as true Muslims and persecuted for it.He added that the truth was that Dr Hargey was not a Qadiani but had always been a devout and observant Muslim.
He spoke and lectured widely about Islam and had at no stage misled the public or represented himself as anything other than a committed mainstream Muslim.
Afterwards, Dr Hargey said the settlement would also have significant repercussions for those calling for the imposition of Sharia law in Britain.
He said he has been a "thorn in the side of Muslim hierarchy" because he has openly endorsed non-niqab and non-beard-wearing Muslims, sanctioned marriages of Muslim women to men of other faiths, actively promoted mixed congregations in mosques, arranging for the first ever female-led Muslim congregational prayers to be held in the UK last October.
In 2007, he offered to help fund a school's legal battle over its refusal to let a pupil wear the niqab in class.
The settlement was revealed in a statement read out in the High Court. Muslim Media Ltd and Ahmed Malik have apologised and agreed to pay Dr Hargey substantial damages and his legal costs.

An amazing story indeed.




Soren wrote on Apr 9^th, 2009 at 6:48pm:

....An imam who supports women not wearing a full veil has won a landmark legal battle against "Muslim McCarthyism" after being accused of holding non-Muslim beliefs..... ......the Muslim Weekly newspaper.....accused him of not being a true Muslim. .....[Dr Taj Hargey] spoke and lectured widely about Islam and had at no stage misled the public....represented himself as....a committed mainstream Muslim. Afterwards, Dr Hargey said the settlement would also have significant repercussions for those calling for the imposition of Sharia law in Britain. He said he has been a "thorn in the side of Muslim hierarchy" because.... he has openly endorsed non-niqab and non-beard-wearing Muslims, sanctioned marriages of Muslim women to men of other faiths, actively promoted mixed congregations in mosques, arranging for the first ever female-led Muslim congregational prayers to be held in the UK last October.

I just have to question, in what capacity can Mr Justice Eady [a kuffar], in the UK High Court [a secular, kuffar court], determine who is a bona fide muslim?

Surely, it is ISLAMIC texts which would define who is or is not, the 'properly guided' ?



And perusing ISLAMIC texts, it is not difficult to come to the conclusion that Dr Taj Hargey could be rightly, and legitimately deemed by the muslims community, to be a bona fide, muslim apostate.           :)


For example, ISLAM's highest authority, Allah, in the Koran, instructs that muslims must not marry their daughters to 'unbelievers'.....

"Do not marry unbelieving women (idolaters), until they believe: A slave woman who believes is better than an unbelieving woman, even though she allures you. Nor marry (your girls) to unbelievers until they believe:......"
quran 002.221

An interview with Dr Taj Hargey

The Muslim cleric who blames British mosques for the 7/7 bombings, says multiculturalism is a disaster and would throw Islamic fanatics out

'I will give £5 to anyone in Britain who wants to live under Sharia law,' he declares. 'It will help pay for their ticket to Sudan, Yemen, Pakistan, or wherever it is customary to live under Sharia law.
'Please, please go and leave us alone. This is Britain, not 10th century Arabia!'
We are indeed sitting in a bar, on a busy main road in Oxford.

But the man before me is no stereotypical Islamophobe.

For one, he is sipping a glass of water rather than something more inflammatory.

More importantly, though by no means obviously, Dr Taj Hargey is himself an Islamic cleric; perhaps the most controversial imam in Britain today.

In an age when the highest-profile Muslim preachers are bearded, anti-Western firebrands such as Abu Hamza or Omar Bakri Dr Hargey seems an anomaly.

He does not care much for male facial hair. He believes that women can be both seen and heard, even in a mosque at Friday prayers.

And don't even get him started on the sort of fanatics who blow up London buses, or the poisonous teachings that inspired them.

After three men were cleared this week on charges of assisting the July 7 bombers, there have been calls for an inquiry into blunders made by the security services.

But Dr Hargey has little doubt who, and what, is truly to blame for unleashing such terrorism on our streets.

'It is the extremist ideology present in many UK mosques which is the cement behind nihilistic plots such as this,' he says. 'They are twisting Islam.'
Violence: Dr Taj Hargey deplores fanatics such as the suicide bombers who targeted London
He has little or no time for the Government's 'pussyfooting' policy of encouraging multiculturalism.

'That is the biggest disaster to happen to Britain since World War II,' he says. 'It has given the extremist mullahs the green light for radicalism and segregation. We have to, we must, adjust to British society. And we can do so without losing our faith.'


The rest is here, well worth a read.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-1175221/The-Muslim-cleric-blames-British-mosques-7-7-bombings-says-multiculturalism-disaster-throw-Islamic-fanatics-out.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_3jmolmtK-E

The Brits are better off being primarily Islamic. Maybe then they'll actually have some sensible laws instead of being a police-state. You can't whipe your ass without the government knowing about it, but hurpdurp! Abortion is on demand!

Bearded pinhead in the news again for, er... you'll never guess...being a bearded pinhead.




Clashes as Muslim extremists attempt to segregate women

http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/article-23709001-details/Clashes+as+Muslim+extremists+attempt+to+segregate+women/article.do

The event titled Sharia law versus British law was meant to see radical preacher Anjem Choudary debate Douglas Murray, director of the right-wing thinktank the Centre for Social Cohesion at Conway Hall in central London last night.

However the venue's owners cancelled the meeting before it even got under way because of “fundamentalist thugs” who clashed with Mr Murray's supporters at the entrance.

It led to a noisy stand-off outside the building in Red Lion Square for more than an hour as police intervened to keep the two sides apart.

Mr Choudary planned to use the event to publicly relaunch Al Muhajiroun five years after it was supposedly disbanded. It was led by Omar Bakri until his deportation for glorifying terrorism after praising the 9/11 hijackers as “the Magnificent 19”.

But the preacher had the microphone snatched out of his hand last night after his black-suited security guards pushed out women trying to enter the main hall where around 60 Muslim men were seated. Women were confined to the upstairs balcony.

Crazy Islamic convert at it again:

CRAZED Islamic cleric Anjem Choudary yesterday hit back at French President Nicolas Sarkozy, 54, for trying to ban the burka by branding his wife a prostitute.

He said former model Carla Bruni, 41, represents the face of a depraved Western society where women are treated like sex objects.
Choudary, 42, below, wrote on the Islam4UK website: “Sarkozy may be content with being wed to a prostitute who flaunts her body to the world believing it to be righteous conduct, but he is reminded that a Muslim is not this shallow and depraved.”


http://www.dailystar.co.uk/posts/view/87098/Ranting-mullah-Carla-is-a-whore/



Just imagine - calling some mullah's wife (say, No 3?) a whore. Islamic 'reason' would be yet again unleashed on some hapless, helpless infidel embassy or translator or passer-by. As usual.

'angin's too good for 'em.

Bearded pinhead, with time on his hands thanks to the British taxpayer, is recruiting jihadis on the streets of London. Where is James Bond when you really need him? Or at least someone with a loaded potty.


The Jihad fanatic peddling a message of hate to 11-year-old Londoners (funded by the taxpayer)
By Andrew Malone
Last updated at 7:37 PM on 17th July 2009

On a hot summer afternoon, a man with a microphone stands on a busy London street. He is a tubby figure and sports a black, bushy beard, flecked with grey. He is shrieking at passing shoppers, insisting they follow him - and save their souls.
Teams of young, tough-looking men - all clearly devoted to their leader - dart through the crowds, handing out leaflets and haranguing anyone who questions their message.
From the other side of the street, you could be forgiven for thinking this is a harmless, if colourful, example of citizens making full use of Britain's ancient tradition of free speech.

But there is nothing harmless about what is really going on here. For the man with the microphone is Anjem Choudary, branded the most dangerous man in Britain.
An extremist who believes his sole-calling is to wage holy war against Britain and her 'infidel' allies, he is trying - and succeeding - to prepare the ground for his global Islamic jihad.
Funded by the taxpayer - he claims benefits so that he has plenty of free time to spread his message - Choudary is openly staging these 'Islamic roadshows' across Britain. And their aim is to recruit young British men prepared to make the ultimate sacrifice for his chilling cause.


In case you want to see his loathsome face and read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1200442/The-Jihad-fanatic-peddling-message-hate-11-year-old-Londoners-funded-taxpayer.html#ixzz0LnS4kBJy

Bearded pinhead update.

Hate preacher tells Queen: Turn Muslim
HATE preacher Anjem Choudary sparked fury yesterday after calling for the Queen to become Muslim.
He demanded an Islamic revolution across Britain.

Choudary, 42, said Her Majesty - head of the Church of England - should convert to ensure her place in paradise.


He also wants to see senior members of the Government switching faiths. Choudary, a key henchman of rabble rousing cleric Omar Bakri, said: "We invite everyone from the Queen, to the ministers, to the Parliament, to the aristocracy, to the ordinary person in Britain to embrace Islam.

Save yourself and your children in this life from misery and prepare them for a great destiny in the hereafter."
He made his call during an internet rant to promote a march in London later this month supporting Sharia law.

(Meanwhile in Birmingham a second March for Sharia is planned)


EXTREMIST Muslims are planning to march through Birmingham to call for the introduction of sharia law in Britain.
The demonstration is to be led by hate preacher Anjem Choudary, who has previously called for all British women to wear burkhas.
It will follow an earlier protest scheduled for London at the end of the month.
Birmingham Labour MP Khalid Mahmood said he is appalled by the plans and has called for West Midlands police to ban Choudary and his followers from entering the city.
“Having the hooligans from the English Defence League fighting the extremists whipped up by the UAF in the city centre was bad enough. Everyone witnessed the violence that happened when they came to Birmingham,” he said. “But I feel that this would have the potential to be much, much worse because the people of Birmingham will find the idea of sharia law very offensive".

Choudary has revealed to the Sunday Mercury that his group plans to target Birmingham next.
He said: ‘’We are hoping for more than 1,000 Muslims to attend the march in London on October 31.
“But if it proves a success then we may be coming to Birmingham next.
“I cannot say exactly when at this stage, but we would hope that it could take place within the next couple of months.
“We believe there would be a lot of support for a March in Birmingham, where we would hope to raise the same issues as in London".
West Midlands Police declined to comment.

this news should be highlighted on the TV and radio

Western media is already riddled with outright lies and half truths... anymore and people will start watching al-jazeera  ;D

only head banging paedophile praisers who live in a spiritual straight jacket watch it

go right ahead abu

And national correspondents for The Atlantic and senior fellows at the Center for a New American Security, in Washington, D.C.

abu_rashid wrote on Oct 19^th, 2009 at 9:20pm:

Western media is already riddled with outright lies and half truths... anymore and people will start watching al-jazeera  ;D

What is the lie and half-truth in this report?

Need I spell it out for you soren?

Without actually having a link to the article to check it's veracity (very sloppy work my friend), it's not even possible for me to comment on it. However the article does seem to reference that fine upstanding purveyor of truth The Sunday Mercury, "a Sunday newspaper published in Birmingham, UK. A tabloid, with a sensationalist streak"... to put it mildly...

Sorry soren, but any "news" outlet that regularly reports UFO's are now patrolling our skies and other such trash doesn't get the vote of confidence here. Bring a credible source, and we can do business...

abu_rashid wrote on Oct 20^th, 2009 at 10:03am:

Need I spell it out for you soren? Without actually having a link to the article to check it's veracity (very sloppy work my friend), it's not even possible for me to comment on it. However the article does seem to reference that fine upstanding purveyor of truth The Sunday Mercury, "a Sunday newspaper published in Birmingham, UK. A tabloid, with a sensationalist streak"... to put it mildly... Sorry soren, but any "news" outlet that regularly reports UFO's are now patrolling our skies and other such trash doesn't get the vote of confidence here. Bring a credible source, and we can do business...

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/edwest/100013852/isnt-a-march-for-sharia-in-london-bad-for-community-relations/

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politics/lawandorder/6334091/Muslims-want-sharia-law-in-Britain-claim.html

http://www.thaindian.com/newsportal/world-news/brit-hate-cleric-tells-queen-to-turn-muslim-and-ensure-her-place-in-paradise_100262582.html

http://www.ekklesia.co.uk/node/10411

You can also check the Islam4UK website.

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You can also check the Islam4UK website.

Why no link??

Even if we run with the idea. The man in question probably just expressed his desire for all humans to come to the guidance of Islam... including the Queen. I'm sure Yadda and yourself would prefer to see the King of Saudi Arabia embrace Christ wouldn't you?? So the headlines and the way the story is worded contains some truth, but it's presented in a deceitful manner, as if this group is going to capture her and force her to convert at gunpoint or something....

abu_rashid wrote on Oct 20^th, 2009 at 11:08am:

Quote: You can also check the Islam4UK website. Why no link?? Even if we run with the idea. The man in question probably just expressed his desire for all humans to come to the guidance of Islam... including the Queen. I'm sure Yadda and yourself would prefer to see the King of Saudi Arabia embrace Christ wouldn't you?? So the headlines and the way the story is worded contains some truth, but it's presented in a deceitful manner, as if this group is going to capture her and force her to convert at gunpoint or something....

Yeah, good idea.

I'd like to see what would happen if the British ambassadors to Araby and Egypt expressed their sincere desire for the king and the prez to convert to the Anglican faith and rallied all the expats to march down the streets of Cairo and Mecca with plackards to press home the point.

What do you think would happen?

as england has discovered, give muslims an inch and they will wage jihad till they earn their 77 virgins.

ban them from your country due to them not vouching to accept it as it is.

An excellent appraisal, and clear explanation, of how those 'enveloped' within moslem communities, are supporting the ISLAMIC Jihad - i.e. the moslems 'struggle' to impose ISLAMIC rule upon their host societies.

It is certain, that even 'moderate' moslems living in the West, possibly inadvertently, are assisting devout [radical] moslems to undermine the 'Kufar' societies which they [the 'moderate' moslems] claim to prefer to live in.

Do the 'moderate' moslems living in the West realise that their complicity, in promoting ISLAMIC ideals and values, and in promoting some measure of Sharia authority, in their host communities, is helping the radical Jihadists move closer to their goals?

Because, these 'moderate' moslems are complicit, in aiding the empowerment of a wicked tyranny, which many of them [may] claim to disavow.




source link supplied by soren, in a previous post in this thread,

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/edwest/100013852/isnt-a-march-for-sharia-in-london-bad-for-community-relations/



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Jihad is a religous duty for all Muslims. Jihad is the only duty that is communal, rather than individual. Islamic doctrine identifies many different types of Jihad, it’s not just terrorism. - The duty of moderate Muslims is to build up the institutions of Islam–Islamic cultural, financial, shops, mosques, commercial distribution networks, halal industry, etc. This is jihad by the pen, tongue, hand, and heart. - The duty of extremist Muslims is to tear down the institutions of the kuffar–by first attacking the infrastructure of the State to make it disfunctional–public transport, police, fire, and ambulance. When State services break down and chaos is widespread, they’ve succeeded. This is jihad by the sword (terrorism). - Moderate and extremist jihadists work together in a pincer movement, to replace kuffar civilisation with Islamic civilisation. - This same record has been played over and over and over, in many many countries over 1400 years. Many different musicians have recorded the song, but no matter how many times you play the record, it’s always the same song with the same ending–Islamic culture replaces the indigenous culture. - Sammie Hall

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I'd like to see what would happen if the British ambassadors to Araby and Egypt expressed their sincere desire for the king and the prez to convert to the Anglican faith and rallied all the expats to march down the streets of Cairo and Mecca with plackards to press home the point.

Those countries don't claim to have freedom of religion though, Britain does. Secular societies will be judged by their supposedly secular ideals, will they not? Why claim to be something, when in reality you're not??? You don't mind claiming all the prizes for being the most enlightened and secular and advanced society, yet when it comes to actually living up to it "oh no no no, look at what those Muslims do in their countries".

Be consistent, OR be considered a self-confessed hypocrite.

abu_rashid wrote on Oct 20^th, 2009 at 3:58pm:

Quote: I'd like to see what would happen if the British ambassadors to Araby and Egypt expressed their sincere desire for the king and the prez to convert to the Anglican faith and rallied all the expats to march down the streets of Cairo and Mecca with plackards to press home the point. Those countries don't claim to have freedom of religion though, Britain does. Secular societies will be judged by their supposedly secular ideals, will they not? Why claim to be something, when in reality you're not??? You don't mind claiming all the prizes for being the most enlightened and secular and advanced society, yet when it comes to actually living up to it "oh no no no, look at what those Muslims do in their countries". Be consistent, OR be considered a self-confessed hypocrite.

That's rich!

"ISLAM is peace, ISLAM is tolerant."

abu_rashid wrote on Oct 20^th, 2009 at 3:58pm:

Quote: I'd like to see what would happen if the British ambassadors to Araby and Egypt expressed their sincere desire for the king and the prez to convert to the Anglican faith and rallied all the expats to march down the streets of Cairo and Mecca with plackards to press home the point. Those countries don't claim to have freedom of religion though, Britain does. Secular societies will be judged by their supposedly secular ideals, will they not? Why claim to be something, when in reality you're not??? You don't mind claiming all the prizes for being the most enlightened and secular and advanced society, yet when it comes to actually living up to it "oh no no no, look at what those Muslims do in their countries". Be consistent, OR be considered a self-confessed hypocrite.

Secular societies - you got that. How come you do not get its meaning?

soren,

in what way are you suggesting I don't get it?

Your whole argument against his statements seems to rest upon the idea that he shouldn't be allowed to wish for a certain Christian to become Muslim.... As far as I understand secular Western principles, there's nothing whatsoever wrong with that... end of story.

abu_rashid wrote on Oct 20^th, 2009 at 6:37pm:

soren, in what way are you suggesting I don't get it? Your whole argument against his statements seems to rest upon the idea that he shouldn't be allowed to wish for a certain Christian to become Muslim.... As far as I understand secular Western principles, there's nothing whatsoever wrong with that... end of story.

You claim the right for muslims but riot if non-muslims also claim their rights - in their own countries, viz. Denmark, France, Australia, and so on and so forth.

You want to exploit the genrosity of secular society in order to strangle that secular society and replace it with sharia. Bearded pinheads can march all their like as long as they shut up when somebody draws a cartoon of Mohammed or cocks a critical eye at the Islamic treatment of women, like van Gogh, or offers an honest appraisal of the Koran and Mohammed. You (Muslim) actually try to cover your riotous arses by claiming the protection of the freedoms you are hell-bent on destrotying in the name of Islam.


abu_rashid wrote on Oct 16^th, 2009 at 2:06pm:

Ideas are welcome in the Islamic forum, so long as you present them within the guidelines.

The reciprocity - that if you want to claim the freedom you cannot riot if others also claim it - that is the bit that you do not accept and pretend not to understand.

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You claim the right for muslims but riot if non-muslims also claim their rights

I have never rioted in my life, sorry.

If people (of any religion) riot, then they will be dealt with by the law. Simple as that. Laying blame on an entire religion, just because some of it's members rioted is just ridiculous. Can I rightfully lay the blame on you for all the atrocities committed against Muslims? Even though you've clearly showed support for them here, I don't take it as a given that you should wear the blame.

If some Christians or Jews commit illegal acts, should their entire religion likewise expect to forfeit their rights collectively?

We both know your take on that. From the outset, you view Muslims as foreign and Jews/Christians as "native", therefore if Jews or Christians behave badly (yes they often do, and in the name of their faith/community also) then the individual(s) in your mind are merely criminals and should be punished. Yet if a Muslim does something, then it's "deport them all, herd them into concentration camps!!" You have the disturbing mentality of a fascist.

If a Jew spies on a Western country for Israel, he's a naughty man (his religious/national allegiances would not even be mentioned in most cases), put him on trial and send him to prison, Israel will probably negotiate his release later and decorate him as a hero, but for now we'll treat him as an ordinary crim... Yet if a Muslim even had slight allegiances to another country "Deport them all!!! they're spies!!! a fifth column come to take us over!!!".


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Bearded pinheads can march all their like as long as they shut up when somebody draws a cartoon of Mohammed or cocks a critical eye at the Islamic treatment of women...

Shut up? What happened to freedom of speech??

Again, rioters or violent people are criminals and will be dealt with by the law. Don't try, yet again, to entangle and confuse the issues.


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The reciprocity - that if you want to claim the freedom you cannot riot if others also claim it - that is the bit that you do not accept and pretend not to understand.

When you find me participating in a riot, you can make this claim. Until then you are merely engaging in verbal communication from your rectum.

NHS relax superbug safeguards for Muslim staff... just days after Christian nurse is banned from wearing crucifix for health and safety reasons

From The Mail on Sunday

Muslim doctors and nurses are to be allowed for religious reasons to opt out of strict NHS dress codes introduced to prevent the spread of deadly hospital superbugs. The Department of Health has announced that female Muslim staff will be permitted to cover their arms on hospital wards to preserve their modesty.
This is despite earlier guidance that all staff should be ‘bare below the elbow’ after long sleeves were blamed for spreading bacteria, leading to superbug deaths. The Department has also relaxed its ‘no jewellery’ rule by making it clear that Sikhs can wear bangles, as long as they can be pushed up the arm during direct patient care.

The move contrasts with the case of nurse Shirley Chaplin, who last week lost her discrimination battle against Royal Devon and Exeter Hospital Trust, which said the cross she has worn since she was 16 was a ‘hazard’ because it could scratch patients. Mrs Chaplin, 55, had worn the silver cross on a necklace since her confirmation. But the employment tribunal told her that wearing a cross was not a ‘mandatory requirement’ of her faith, even though Muslim doctors are allowed to wear hijabs or headscarves.
Last night she said of the sleeve concession to Muslims: ‘I don’t believe my cross is a danger so this is double standards. What can you say? It seems that life is stacked up against Christians these days.’

Politicians and Christian leaders, including former Archbishop of Canterbury Lord Carey, added that it showed the Government was prepared to accommodate minority faiths while Christianity was marginalised.  Lord Carey said of grandmother Mrs Chaplin: ‘The Muslim voice is very strong, so politicians and others are scared of it. We can only deduce that the hostility aimed at her is because she is a Christian.’

abu_rashid wrote on Oct 20^th, 2009 at 11:02pm:

Until then you are merely engaging in verbal communication from your rectum.

Why are you always bringing up the arse? Are you a closet homosexual? Why are you so obsessed with the rectum and anus?

It's a metaphor that someone who is lying is speaking out of... nevermind.

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NHS relax superbug safeguards for Muslim staff... just days after Christian nurse is banned from wearing crucifix for health and safety reasons

I really don't get this. Isn't covering better for hygiene?? If not, then we'd expect to see surgeons performing operations starkers wouldn't we?

I'm sure if they decided all doctors should walk around topless, that female Christian doctors wouldn't be too happy about being forced to uncover their nakedness. So why is it so bizarre that female Muslim doctors don't like it?

About all we can gather from this beat-up is that the Islamic concept of nakedness is a little more modest than the Christian one, and not much else.

I'm sure they're not doing it to cater to the whims of Muslims. They want Muslim female staff, because it helps their image and it helps them to access more patients.

abu_rashid wrote on Apr 12^th, 2010 at 12:06pm:

Quote: NHS relax superbug safeguards for Muslim staff... just days after Christian nurse is banned from wearing crucifix for health and safety reasons I really don't get this. Isn't covering better for hygiene?? If not, then we'd expect to see surgeons performing operations starkers wouldn't we? I'm sure if they decided all doctors should walk around topless, that female Christian doctors wouldn't be too happy about being forced to uncover their nakedness. So why is it so bizarre that female Muslim doctors don't like it? About all we can gather from this beat-up is that the Islamic concept of nakedness is a little more modest than the Christian one, and not much else. I'm sure they're not doing it to cater to the whims of Muslims. They want Muslim female staff, because it helps their image and it helps them to access more patients.

You a billion sexual fantasist. It's always about either complete covering (Muslim, good) or nakedness (Western, bad). You always come up with toplessness as th only possible altrantive to Msulim dress. You must be a tit man.

Here's news: they want hospital staff to be clean and not to have sleeves and cuffs in the way constantly. Or do Muslim women wash their sleeves up to the elbow every time they wash their hands? The sleeves and cuffs come into contact with all sorts of things, not only in a hospital but everywhere. Have you ever worn a white long sleeve shirt for a day? Have you seen the inside of the cuffs at the end of the day?

The NHS gave in here purely because of your religion. The lady killed by that gokart also died purely because the operators gave in to her religion.

I wonder what's going to happen when th firts patient refuses treatment from a muslim in long sleeves? Will the patient's right to his perception of what is clean trump your perception?

abu_rashid wrote on Oct 20^th, 2009 at 3:58pm:

Those countries don't claim to have freedom of religion though, Britain does. Secular societies will be judged by their supposedly secular ideals, will they not? Why claim to be something, when in reality you're not??? You don't mind claiming all the prizes for being the most enlightened and secular and advanced society, yet when it comes to actually living up to it "oh no no no, look at what those Muslims do in their countries". Be consistent, OR be considered a self-confessed hypocrite.

Look at what those Muslims do in our countries:


Most terrorism in Britain is homegrown, according to the most comprehensive survey of those convicted of offences over the last 10 years.  The Centre for Social Cohesion has compiled profiles of 124 individuals convicted of Islamic terrorism offences since 1999. It found that 69 per cent of offences were perpetrated by individuals holding British nationality.
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The survey found those of Pakistani origin and Bangladeshi origin were most likely to be associated with proscribed organisations.

Just under half (48 per cent) of offences were committed by those living in London, largely in the North East of the city, and outside London the next most common regions were the West Midlands (13 per cent) and Yorkshire (9 per cent).

Nearly a third (31 per cent) had attended university and 10 per cent were still students when they were arrested.

However 35 per cent were unemployed and living on benefits.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/terrorism-in-the-uk/7871139/Terrorism-in-Britain-mostly-home-grown-report-says.html

Your tax pound/dollars at, well, not work exactly. For AUstralian references, see the Flamin' Melbourne Jihadists led by that giant intellect, Benbrinka the Hirsute and all the others, hairy to a man.

I wonder what the average IQ is of Mohammedians in Europe. Probably not very high.

soren - so 1/3 of the terrorists are uni educated ?

ppppzzzzzzzztttttt - there goes the idea islamic terrorist is for the uneducated muslims.

ban the burqa

Islamist commemorative flag burning on 11 Sept 2010. Sensitive-like.




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wxan9ztrdbw

Democracy go to hell!!

Looks like a fun day out for the lads.. come on soren, what's wrong with a little healthy protest? Can't democracy handle dissent? Is that the only reason during the cold war that the West seemed so free? Because there was actually nobody seriously dissenting? And now they are, the West wants to show their true colours and stifle it? Soviet-style?

Oh, we all love a broad-minded Mohammedan. Fun day out, little bit of Koran burning, can't the muslim laddies handle a bit of frank appraisal??

I bet you also liked the guy smoking the Koran and the Bible in Brisbane as a bit of protest for free speech. You Muslims are famous for always standing up for dissenting voices in your midst.

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Quite frankly I'm more worried about the actual assaults on Islam and Muslims than the empty symbolic ones. These kinds of stunts are designed purely to appeal to those uneducated Muslims that merely react emotionally, rather than think about what's going on, in order to detract further from the real grievances Muslims hold, and to create a smokescreen.

So you should be happy that some Muslims have taken the bait, and for now it's overshadowing the real issues... right?

Because when the real issues are dealt with, there will be hell to pay, and you know it.

There will be hell to pay??? Will be??? You have been paying already for centuries.


Or are you thinking of this kind of thing:
FIVE Muslim men planned an armed terrorist attack on a Sydney army base to further the cause of Islam by killing as many people as possible, a Supreme Court jury heard today.

abu_rashid wrote on Sep 13^th, 2010 at 11:15pm:

Quite frankly I'm more worried about the actual assaults on Islam and Muslims

As opposed to the the actual assaults and murders by Muslims in the name of Islam. No worries there, obviously.

abu_rashid wrote on Sep 13^th, 2010 at 11:15pm:

Quite frankly I'm more worried about the actual assaults on Islam and Muslims than the empty symbolic ones.

You are talking through your turban again. Look at whitey's peaceful demonstration. If you feel menaced by this you should hand back your jihadi membership card.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tFi42I817Qs&feature=player_embedded#!

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FIVE Muslim men planned an armed terrorist attack on a Sydney army base

If the supposed attack was on an army base, then how on earth was it a terrorist attack (supposedly terrorism is the use of violence against civilians)???

You have to move the goalposts every step of the way don't you? You have no other way of operating.

Just be done with it and say "terrorism is the use of force by Muslims". This is in reality what the Western concept of terrorism really translates to.

abu_rashid wrote on Sep 14^th, 2010 at 8:15pm:

Quote: FIVE Muslim men planned an armed terrorist attack on a Sydney army base If the supposed attack was on an army base, then how on earth was it a terrorist attack (supposedly terrorism is the use of violence against civilians)??? You have to move the goalposts every step of the way don't you? You have no other way of operating. Just be done with it and say "terrorism is the use of force by Muslims". This is in reality what the Western concept of terrorism really translates to.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, we know, you are all Allan's soldiers, you are all jihadis; civilian, soldier, all the same, the army shoots at civilians in Muslim countries because they know you are all crazy fvckers out for the greater glory of Allan and the 72 virgins.

Here, we are are a bit on the civilised side (I know, unfamiliar word) so our soldiers do not expect hairy ethnic civilians to start shooting at the gate. You are all cowardly jihadi terrorists because you do not identify yourselves openly but you lurk and hide and dissemble and disguise and lie. And draw social security benefits, of course, that goes without saying. Jizyah, innit.

Declare war on the Hodsworthy Army Base, dress up in your uniforms and then you will not be terrorists but soldiers. But that would be honest (another unfamiliar word for you) so it is cannot to be expected from the sons of Allah. It's against your very religion, honesty.

Soren wrote on Sep 14^th, 2010 at 10:09pm:

abu_rashid wrote on Sep 14th, 2010 at 8:15pm: Quote: FIVE Muslim men planned an armed terrorist attack on a Sydney army base If the supposed attack was on an army base, then how on earth was it a terrorist attack (supposedly terrorism is the use of violence against civilians)??? You have to move the goalposts every step of the way don't you? You have no other way of operating. Just be done with it and say "terrorism is the use of force by Muslims". This is in reality what the Western concept of terrorism really translates to. Yeah, yeah, yeah, we know, you are all Allan's soldiers, you are all jihadis; civilian, soldier, all the same, the army shoots at civilians in Muslim countries because they know you are all crazy fvckers out for the greater glory of Allan and the 72 virgins. Here, we are civilised (I know, unfamiliar word) so our soldiers do not expect hairy ethnic civilians in nighty-shirty getups  to start shooting at the gate. You are all cowardly jihadi terrorists because you do not identify yourselves openly but you lurk and hide and dissemble and disguise and lie. And draw social security benefits, of course, that goes without saying. Jizyah, innit. Declare war on the Hodsworthy Army Base, dress up in your uniforms and then you will not be terrorists but soldiers. But that would be honest (another unfamiliar word for you) so it is cannot to be expected from the sons of Allah. It's against your very religion, honesty.

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dress up in your uniforms and then you will not be terrorists but soldiers

You mean like all the CIA and Blackwater and all those other terrorists?

Btw, when you start quoting your own posts, it's a bit of an indication that you know your posts are weak and meaningless.

abu_rashid wrote on Sep 14^th, 2010 at 8:15pm:

Quote: FIVE Muslim men planned an armed terrorist attack on a Sydney army base If the supposed attack was on an army base, then how on earth was it a terrorist attack (supposedly terrorism is the use of violence against civilians)??? You have to move the goalposts every step of the way don't you? You have no other way of operating. Just be done with it and say "terrorism is the use of force by Muslims". This is in reality what the Western concept of terrorism really translates to.

Just as long as they can kill as many people as possible before being stopped, they wouldn't be too fussy about whether the victims wear a uniform or not.
These scum were just out to make a statement.
The statement that "terrorism is the use of force by Muslims" is incorrect.
It really wasn't all that long ago since Irish Catholics were practising their brand of terrorism.

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If the supposed attack was on an army base, then how on earth was it a terrorist attack (supposedly terrorism is the use of violence against civilians)??? You have to move the goalposts every step of the way don't you? You have no other way of operating. Just be done with it and say "terrorism is the use of force by Muslims". This is in reality what the Western concept of terrorism really translates to.

Those scum are a dirty treacherous filth to our nation. They have no place in Australia, or our taxpayer's jails.
Muslims in general are a dirty treacherous filth to our nation.
When they swear allegiance to Australia, it is a lie.
They are allied to Islam and Islam only. I wish we'd have the common sense to see that.

Do you see my mocking of Islam Abu? Hahaha  ;D ;D ;D

Soren wrote on Sep 12^th, 2010 at 9:07pm:

Islamist commemorative flag burning on 11 Sept 2010. Sensitive-like. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wxan9ztrdbw Democracy go to hell!!

;D I suppose you've got to see the hilarity of what these clowns are doing.
Here they are using their democratic right to protest against democracy itself, which includes the right to protest.
I'm sure that there would be no shortage of those sympathetic enough to their cause to raise funds for a one-way air ticket to an undemocratic land.

Radicalisation on British University Campuses: a case study

18 October 2010



Quilliam’s latest briefing paper, Radicalisation on British University Campuses: a case study, was published this morning and is now available for download here. The report uses the events at City University in London during the last academic year (Sept 09 – June 10) to show how a mainstream academic institution in the UK can become an incubator for extremist, intolerant and potentially violent forms of the political ideology of Islamism.


University campuses have been recognised by policy-makers as key places where Islamist ideologies can spread, but the processes of radicalisation involved have often remained unclear. This paper seeks to address this knowledge gap by identifying the factors on a university campus that may contribute to radicalising an individual towards Islamist-inspired terrorism. Whilst the paper does not suggest that everyone exposed to these factors will become a terrorist, it shows how and why exposure to them can increase the risk of radicalisation towards terrorism as well as illustrating the considerable disruption that such radicalisation can have on campus life.


The paper concludes with specific recommendations for universities, students’ unions and government to prevent similar situations from arising on other university campuses.


‘Radicalisation on British University Campuses’ is the latest of Quilliam’s publications to deal with areas where the risk of radicalisation is either high or is poorly understood. Previous reports released in the last year include studies of radicalisation in prisons and on Arabic-language jihadist websites.



http://www.quilliamfoundation.org/index.php/component/content/article/713


They are talking about you, Brian Smith (aka Au Rashid)


Part 1 – The radicalising effects of members of the Islamic Society
During the last academic year, individuals within the ISoc had a negative and potentially damaging
impact both on other ISoc members, as well as those affiliated to the society (be they friends outside
of the university, or those viewing the content of their website). The ISoc exposed these people to
each of the four factors required to lead individuals along the path towards adopting violent Islamist
viewpoints: propagating an extreme, pro-terrorist ideology through inspirational individuals who
could articulate that ideology, whilst at the same time harbouring a sense of perceived or real
grievance against members of the university body, and channelling individual students’ crises of
identity towards a united ‘aggrieved’ Muslim identity. Both of these, in turn, reinforced their
extreme ideology.

SPECIAL REPORT: The 'DIY jihadists' paid for by us... Roshonara Choudhry supporters are living on benefits

They refuse to apologise for their vile rant at the Old Bailey that made a mockery of our justice system.
Nor are they repentant over ¬supporting the radical Muslim woman on trial there for trying to kill an MP in a knife attack.
As 21-year-old London University student Roshonara Choudhry was sentenced to life on Wednesday, they cursed the judge from the public gallery and hurled abuse at a terrified female juror wearing a Muslim headscarf, screaming ‘Shame on you, sister’.
The three agitators were then bundled out of court where, incredibly, were allowed to continue their poisonous rant. With faces twisted in fury, they waved banners saying ‘Islam will dominate the World’, yelled ‘British soldiers must die’, and screamed that the knifed Labour MP, Stephen Timms, should be killed.

They warned me that Choudhry is only one of hundreds of home-grown ‘DIY jihadists’ – many female and some recently converted to Islam – prepared to die as martyrs.
I met two of the protesters in a coffee bar in Ilford, East London, after receiving a call from an intermediary within the fanatical group Islam4uk. I found that both are living on benefits, one claiming to suffer from chronic fatigue disorder, while they orchestrate an Islamic backlash against Britain.
Although both use Islamic pseudonyms – Abu Saalihah and Abu Abdullah – their birth names are Mohammed Shamsuddin and Mohammed Haroon Saleem. As Shamsuddin, 34, told me: ‘The majority of Muslims sympathise with our Sister Roshonara. They view her as their heroine now.
‘The Islamic websites and forums are full of messages of support for her and anger at the Old Bailey judge. Men and women are inflamed by the harshness of the sentence she was given.’
Shamsuddin and Saleem, along with a third radical, East London office administrator Abu Yahya, 27, (who refused to give his birth name) escaped scot free after the Old Bailey outrage despite some MPs’ demands for their arrest for contempt of court.
‘We were told by a police officer outside the court that the judge had sent us a message to say, “Don’t do this again and you’ll be all right”. I would have gone to prison for a week and was surprised I wasn’t sent there. I would happily have done so,’ said Shamsuddin, with a smile playing on his bearded face.
Saleem, 29, added: ‘It is going to happen again, I promise you.
‘We won’t stop. There are plenty of young Muslims who are angry and frustrated. They think they are treated as second-class citizens.
‘They want to take their fight on to the streets of Britain. It isgoing to get worse after this.’
The two men are obviously well-educated. Shamsuddin studied at Southampton’s Solent University and ran the Islamic Society there. He was brought up in North London, by his Indian parents who came to Britain 40 years ago. His father was the head chef at the Bombay Palace near Oxford Street, until his death two years ago.

He was radicalised after inviting Omar Bakri Mohammed (an extremist Muslim cleric now banned from Britain) to speak at the university. Shamsuddin now has four children, three girls and a boy. Two of them go to private schools at a cost of £2,000 a year each, although he is living off benefits at a family house in Walthamstow.
Saleem has four children, two girls and two boys, and lives in Ilford. He too is jobless and claiming benefits. ‘I used to be a quality controller at a meat factory but they laid people off last year. I am looking for another job,’ he told me.

It was after watching abhorrent hate-filled sermons by the fanatic Anwar al-Awlaki on the internet that Choudhry decided to attack Stephen Timms because he had voted in the Commons for Britain’s war with Iraq. Her Bengali family have, apparently, disowned their daughter and she refused to appear in person at the Old Bailey (saying she did not recognise the British justice system because it was not sharia law), receiving news of her sentence by video link in prison.
When I meet Shamsuddin and Saleem they appear polite. But their conversation is littered with hatred of non-Muslims.
The white working class are ‘riff raff’, they say, and non-Muslim women flaunt themselves as sex objects by putting on make up in the morning to attract men. As for the moderate Muslim Council of Britain, that is the puppet of Government ministers.

So why, I ask, did they shout abuse in a British court room at a woman juror from their own community? ‘It is unacceptable for one Muslim sister to condemn another,’ says Shamsuddin.
They may speak in moderate tones, but it is what they say that shocks.
These two radicals have never, so they say, trained at terror camps in Pakistan or Afghanistan.
They wouldn’t know how to put a bomb together (although they assure me plenty do and it is only a matter of time before one ‘gets through’).
Yet as they walk the streets of Britain with State money in their pockets and time to preach a divisive creed, it is hard not to conclude they are every bit as dangerous.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1326844/DIY-jihadists-Roshonara-Choudhry-supporters-living-benefits.html

Abu, how are you different from these guys?

He's not in England???

Calanen wrote on Mar 14^th, 2009 at 6:58pm:

I want to see flag of Allah flying over Downing St David Cohen 13.03.09 Look here too A Muslim fundamentalist leader today told of his vision of Britain under Sharia law. Anjem Choudary said he wanted the “flag of Allah” flying over Downing Street, all women wearing burkas and caning for drunkenness. He is the leader of Ahlus Sunnah wal Jamaah, founded as a successor to the banned fundamentalist sect al-Muhajiroun, which was led by now-exiled preacher Omar Bakri Muhammad. The self-proclaimed Sharia judge admitted his followers had organised protests against British soldiers in Luton this week, waving placards which called them “murderers” for their conduct in Iraq. Mr Choudary, a 41-year-old lawyer, said he was proud to be reviled. “It's inevitable that when you offer an alternative morality and way of life many people will hate you for it.” He said this “alternative morality” would mean “a pure Islamic state with Sharia law in Britain” and added: “Every woman, whether Muslim or non-Muslim, would have to wear a traditional burka and cover everything apart from her face and hands in public.” “In matters to do with the judicial system and the penal code, one male witness is sufficient to counter the testimony of two females. People who commit adultery would be stoned to death.” Mr Choudary, a father of three, admitted he lived off benefits despite objecting to the British state. He rejected suggestions of hypocrisy, saying: “I don't think it's of any importance.” http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/article-23661857-details/I+want+to+see+flag+of+Allah+flying+over+Downing+St/article.do

At last, a victory for the rights of the majority: Judges reject appeal by Muslims who shouted abuse at hero soldiers


By Andrew Levy
Last updated at 8:54 AM on 17th February 2011
Comments (221)
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1357662/Judges-reject-appeal-Muslims-shouted-abuse-British-soldiers.html#comments
Judges yesterday staunchly defended the ‘rights of the majority’ as they threw out an appeal by a group of Muslims against their conviction for hurling hate-filled abuse at soldiers.
The High Court ruled that the men were not acting within their human rights when they heckled and jeered members of the 2nd Battalion Royal Anglian Regiment as they marched through Luton after returning from Afghanistan.
The anti-war protesters caused outrage when they called the troops – who had previously served in Iraq – rapists, murderers and baby killers.


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1357662/Judges-reject-appeal-Muslims-shouted-abuse-British-soldiers.html#ixzz1ED9cAqLj
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Thank you for that  Soren , excellent news

But surely this is just the 'religion of peace' being misinterpreted again by evil westerners ;)

The more I hear of this stuff, the more I cant help feeling that one day soon, the west are going to kick some ass in a hard way regarding extremism.
As someone who has a muslim family name- i love responding to the question' you are muslim?' with , 'absolutely--- not!'
Nothing is more hated by muslims, even more than 'infidels' is a muslim who has become a christian.

Calanen wrote on Mar 14^th, 2009 at 8:10pm:

Soren wrote on Mar 14th, 2009 at 8:05pm: Calanen wrote on Mar 14th, 2009 at 6:58pm: Mr Choudary, a father of three, admitted he lived off benefits despite objecting to the British state. He rejected suggestions of hypocrisy, saying: “I don't think it's of any importance.” The rest is padding. As I've said before, ALL the people charged with terrorist crimes in Australia got Legal Aid because they were on welfare Every....single....one.

How can they be expected to have to work when they have to bang their heads on the carpet 5 times a day?

Abu, Lestat - how are you any different from Andy Choudary and all the other 'swivel-eyed bearded muppets' like him?

Here's why all of you, cheering for Andy's kind ,are at once frightening and ridiculous.



http://www.blip.tv/file/4822971/

Soren wrote on Mar 14^th, 2009 at 9:06pm:

Calanen wrote on Mar 14th, 2009 at 8:10pm: Soren wrote on Mar 14th, 2009 at 8:05pm: Calanen wrote on Mar 14th, 2009 at 6:58pm: Mr Choudary, a father of three, admitted he lived off benefits despite objecting to the British state. He rejected suggestions of hypocrisy, saying: “I don't think it's of any importance.” The rest is padding. As I've said before, ALL the people charged with terrorist crimes in Australia got Legal Aid because they were on welfare Every....single....one. Probably because hangin's too good for 'em.... Their credibility is in the toilet. We are just too polite to be harsh on them on account of their being tinted - not wanting to offend the blameless mass of tinted people. It was easy to call the blond and blue eyed soviet Russians the evil empire.  With th darkeer races it is unseemly to speak the language of 'dark forces' and so forth. And once they are onto the race victim bandwagon, there is no prising them off it. But look at the Choudary fellow - a pakistani prick who wouldd squel like a stuck piglet if he were to be repatriated to the ancestral land. There is no problem booting Russians out of Britain, happens to this day. Booting tinted crazies out - all of a sudden it doesn't matter what they are saying, what matters is the tinting. And pigmentation makes evee the firebrand jihadi very sensitive and touchy victim of oppression. Colonialism ended far, far too soon.

Oh, I see. I always believed it was their dastardly religion, but I'm glad you've pointed out that the problem lies in their pigmentation.

Does this make your Bosnian Musselmen alright, old boy? I mean, he's hardly one of us, but at least he hasn't got that frightful shade of voodoo noir, wouldn't you say?

Good Heavens! I didn't realize this was posted in 2009. My, how things have changed since then.

Karnal wrote on Mar 14^th, 2011 at 2:18pm:

Good Heavens! I didn't realize this was posted in 2009. My, how things have changed since then.

Indeed. Plus ça change and all that, non?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BP9QXId4AtU


Elsehwere in the news:

New book reveals how Bristish defence spending cuts affect frontline troops: they have to kill two Talitubbies with one bullet.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1366154/British-sniper-kills-Taliban-bullet-new-book-reveals.html

Moslems might find a sense of 'empowerment' here in Oceania, more than they would get in the northern hemisphere, specifically Namerica.
But in the end, Namerican Jews and Oceanic Moslems will find 'new' Religions rising in these regions to represent those regions ...specifically.

Because a Religion born upon the influence of Asia (Judaism) and a Religion born upon the influence of Africa (Mohommedism), let alone a Religion born upon the influence of Europe (Christianity)
...wont' go far in the new worlds,
especially New Worlds that respect the Religion born upon the influence of the Middle-East itself (which Europe, Africa & Asia - DON'T)

...and I'm sure you all know what Religion that is
<enter evil laugh> ;D

Ah - the Mormons?

Well done Karnal. :)

Yep, the Mormon Religion is America's fastest and largest growing Religion. Many a Mormon will tell you that their Religion is pretty crap but they take utter pride in the fact that it is 'Made in America'.

Moslems are welcome here in Australia, but they have to come to realise that its the dirty dreadlocked Ferals that run the show here, not the USA puppet called the PM or the UK puppet known as the GG.