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Title: Denmark to make world become worst place ever Post by easel on Apr 4th, 2009 at 7:36pm Quote:
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Title: Re: Denmark to make world become worst place ever Post by sprintcyclist on Apr 4th, 2009 at 8:47pm Rasmussen sounds like a good man to me. |
Title: Re: Denmark to make world become worst place ever Post by easel on Apr 4th, 2009 at 9:17pm
Glad to know, someone who can't spell, has no idea of world affairs, is constantly and consistently hypocritical in regards to their own morals (Christian... allegedly) online, which can't be a slip of the tongue, supports this fool.
You and him think alike? Great ( :D) minds always do. ;D |
Title: Re: Denmark to make world become worst place ever Post by sprintcyclist on Apr 4th, 2009 at 10:27pm Always good to let you know where I stand. :-) yes, newspapers have a right to voice their opinion. whatever does denmark have to do with the Moscow music theater violence in October 2002 ? I vaguely remember the incident. |
Title: Re: Denmark to make world become worst place ever Post by easel on Apr 4th, 2009 at 10:42pm
Read the article.
You don't even know where you stand. You go wherever the propaganda machine takes you. Baa. |
Title: Re: Denmark to make world become worst place ever Post by sprintcyclist on Apr 4th, 2009 at 10:53pm
i read the article
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france, germany and italy want him. Only the intolerant muslims don't. what is your point ? i repeat my question :- whatever does denmark have to do with the Moscow music theater violence in October 2002 ? I vaguely remember the incident. in a muslim chatroom you would be banned by now |
Title: Re: Denmark to make world become worst place ever Post by easel on Apr 4th, 2009 at 11:00pm
Why are you discussing banning me? Feeling inferior?
Your arguments lack coherency and show a clear misunderstanding of global events. You say France, Germany and Italy want him. Are you referring to politicians? Are you aware of the current situations in those countries at the present? Or once again do you only go with what the media want you to know? Intolerant Muslims? Russia is not a Muslim country. It has been fighting Muslim extremists for a very long time. You are an extremely intolerant individual sprint. Hypocritical too. Very un-Christian. Read the article. |
Title: Re: Denmark to make world become worst place ever Post by easel on Apr 4th, 2009 at 11:06pm
I shall give you assistance whilst at the same time displaying your absence of knowledge regarding world events and history.
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Chechen separatists are Muslim extremists vying to impose Muslim rule in Russia. Denmark allowed them to have a parliamentary meeting in Copenhagen. At the same time their armed wing took hundreds of people hostage. Denmark was essentially complicit in all this. Make sense? Or too much for your feeble mind? Go back to New Zealand you fruitcake. |
Title: Re: Denmark to make world become worst place ever Post by sprintcyclist on Apr 4th, 2009 at 11:16pm thank you for answering my question easel. I see no complicity between the rasmussan, the parliamentray meeting in denmark and a terrorist attack in russia. Had denmark banned the meeting they would have probably been claims of "banning freedom of speech", "insults" etc etc etc. please show where the meeting in denmark celebrated the violence and where rasmussam knew of this terrorist action before the meeting was booked. the problem here is chechen muslims, not rasmussan. hopefully denmark have now learnt what islam means and DO ban it from their country |
Title: Re: Denmark to make world become worst place ever Post by easel on Apr 4th, 2009 at 11:36pm
The government of the day, in Denmark, allowed known Muslim terrorists to gather and discuss events related to their cause.
You seem to support this government. You're a hypocrite. |
Title: Re: Denmark to make world become worst place ever Post by Calanen on Apr 5th, 2009 at 4:06pm
Rasmussen is a legend. So the Turks don't like him because he wouldn't cave to their unreasonable demands in a free country not to do various things to a magazine that published some Mohammed cartoons. Big deal. Stop being so sensitive.
And also, the Arabic press daily publishes anti-semitic cartoons, which no one does anything about. Islam wants tolerance for it, but it is tolerant of nothing itself. I hope NATO has the balls to appoint Rasmussen anyway. |
Title: Re: Denmark to make world become worst place ever Post by Calanen on Apr 5th, 2009 at 4:11pm NATO leaders pick Dane as new secretary-general In this Feb. 18, 2009 file photo the Prime Minister of Denmark, Anders Fogh AP – In this Feb. 18, 2009 file photo the Prime Minister of Denmark, Anders Fogh Rasmussen, speaks prior to … * Jake Tapper on Obama's NATO Plea Play Video Afghanistan Video:Jake Tapper on Obama's NATO Plea ABC News * Extra Nato troops for Afghan poll Play Video Afghanistan Video:Extra Nato troops for Afghan poll BBC * Obama on Nato Afghan troop deal Play Video Afghanistan Video:Obama on Nato Afghan troop deal BBC By SLOBODAN LEKIC and SELCAN HACAOGLU, Associated Press Writer Slobodan Lekic And Selcan Hacaoglu, Associated Press Writer – Sat Apr 4, 2:03 pm ET STRASBOURG, France – NATO leaders appointed Danish Prime Minister Anders Fogh Rasmussen as NATO's new secretary-general Saturday after overcoming Turkish objections to a leader who angered Muslims around the world by supporting the right to caricature the Prophet Muhammad. NATO's outgoing head, Jaap de Hoop Scheffer, said NATO's 28 member nations reached unanimity after a series of Turkish "concerns" were addressed at the alliance's two-day, 60th-anniversary summit. Turkey's Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan told reporters that his government's requests had included the closure of a Kurdish satellite television broadcaster based in Denmark; the establishment of contacts between NATO and Islamic countries; appointment of a Turk as an aide to Fogh Rasmussen and senior NATO command positions for Turkish generals. Erdogan said President Barack Obama had been heavily involved in the negotiations. "Our president gave his approval after receiving information that our reservations have been addressed under the guarantorship of Obama," Erdogan said. "We hope our concerns will be met." Obama said there had been "important efforts to make sure that everyone felt included." Fogh Rasmussen told a NATO news conference in Danish that the station, Roj TV, was being investigated to find out whether it has any ties with the Kurdish militant group PKK or has advocated terror attacks, something the station has repeatedly denied. "If it can be proven that Roj TV is involved in terror activities, we will of course do all we can to shut down the television station," he said. "I have not given in to the Turks," he said on Danish television Saturday evening. "Sometimes it is better to sit face-to-face with people," Fogh Rasmussen, 56, has a reputation domestically and internationally as a deft negotiator. He has led a minority government since 2001, and helped raise Denmark's profile with a strong commitment to European Union cooperation and trans-Atlantic ties. He speaks French fluently, a key requirement in bilingual NATO. When Europe was split over the Iraq war, he joined President George W. Bush's "coalition of the willing" and sent a few hundred Danish troops to help topple Saddam Hussein. But he also criticized the U.S. for the detention of enemy combatants at Guantanamo Bay and secret CIA prisons. Denmark withdrew its soldiers from southern Iraq in 2007, and boosted its contingent in the NATO-led mission in Afghanistan, where it has about 700 troops. Fogh Rasmussen infuriated many Muslims by defending freedom of speech during an uproar over a Danish newspaper's publication of the cartoons in 2005. He has also angered Turkey by opposing its membership in the European Union. Turkish leaders argued that Fogh Rasmussen on the grounds that he would be a bad choice at a time when NATO was trying to win support from Muslims in Afghanistan and Pakistan, according to a diplomat from a member country who asked not to be identified because he was not authorized to speak to the media. Fogh Rasmussen, who stood next to de Hoop Scheffer during the announcement, said he was honored by the decision and would present his resignation to Queen Margrethe on Sunday at the Amalienborg Palace and would recommend that Finance Minister Lars Loekke Rasmussen would be appointed as his successor. De Hoop Scheffer's term runs out Aug. 1. The secretary-general's duties include administering the day-to-day business of the alliance's headquarters in Brussels. The post has in the past been filled in private consultations between member states, and the choices provoked little public interest. Other possible candidates for NATO's top post had included Canada's Defense Minister Peter MacKay, Britain's former Defense minister Des Browne, and Norway's Foreign Minister Jonas Gahr Stoere. http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090404/ap_on_re_eu/eu_new_nato_chief They did it, at least NATO weren't prepared to be good dhimmis. |
Title: Re: Denmark to make world become worst place ever Post by sprintcyclist on Apr 5th, 2009 at 6:39pm great news. the historically spineless NATO stands up for freedom of speech. Let all who oppose liberty be pissed upon from a great height. |
Title: Re: Denmark to make world become worst place ever Post by tallowood on Apr 5th, 2009 at 7:59pm
It is a bad move to let muslims generals into senior NATO command positions.
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Title: Re: Denmark to make world become worst place ever Post by Calanen on Apr 5th, 2009 at 10:47pm tallowood wrote on Apr 5th, 2009 at 7:59pm:
Only Turks for now, and not many of those. |
Title: Not so fast - Dhimmi Alert Ahead.... Post by Calanen on Apr 6th, 2009 at 8:44am
To become NATO secretary general, Anders Fogh Rasmussen will apologize for the Mohammed cartoons.
Anders Fogh Rasmussen, Denmark’s leader, was one of the few European politicians who refused to give in to pressure from fundamentalists in the Middle East when a Danish newspaper published the now infamous “Mohammed cartoons.” His attitude was welcomed by may Europeans, especially by conservatives. He was quickly promoted to “hero of the freedom of speech,” and became one of the old continent’s most popular politicians. But then something changed. Rasmussen set his eyes upon NATO. He wanted to become the organization’s next secretary general. An ambitious man, he proved willing to do whatever it takes to accomplish his goals. One of those ‘things’: apologizing to the “Islamic world” for the cartoons. Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip does not like Rasmussen very much (among other reasons because Rasmussen is anti-Turkey). So when the latter appeared to be the man most likely to succeed secretary general Jaap de Hoop Scheffer, the former put up a fight. Turkey would not agree to let Rasmussen accomplish his goal, Erdogan said, unless Turkey got something in return and unless the prime minister would apologize to “the Islamic world.’ Rasmussen agreed. Dutch magazine Elsevier reports he will do so tomorrow, in Istanbul. If true, it’s a major blow to the freedom of speech the prime minister said he held so dear. Rasmussen should have stuck to his guns and defended Western principles. This is not about whether one agrees with him on every single subject, nor about whether or not one is a fan of his (country’s) policy towards Turkey. It’s about the freedom of newspapers to publish whatever cartoon they want, no matter how controversial they may be in some quarters. It is not only a sad day for those who love the freedom of speech, but also for Turkish secularists; Erdogan presented himself once again as spokesman for the “Islamic world,” which would have been unthinkable only ten years ago. Lest we forget, Turkey was, for over 80 years, a proud secular country. Erdogan has done everything in his power to end that beautiful streak. The negotiations over NATO’s next secretary general are yet another step in the wrong direction. Lastly, not all news is bad: a Turk will be appointed vice-secretary general (which is not a problem at all of course) and its generals will enrich NATO’s top command with their knowledge and experience. These are rather obviously good results, both for Turkey and for NATO. The cartoon-deal, on the other hand, is terrible for all involved. We thank the Huffington Post, Little Green Footballs and Hot Air for linking to this story http://www.poligazette.com/2009/04/05/rasmussen-to-apologize-to-islamic-world/ The Islamic world should apologise to us for carrying on like a pack of barbarians just because someone published a cartoon they didn't like. And Rasmussen has to apologise for a cartoon, he didn't publish and which any mature people would not have cared about anyway? |
Title: Re: Denmark to make world become worst place ever Post by sprintcyclist on Apr 6th, 2009 at 9:03am to apologise for having a free press is cowardly and undermines the essence of a free society. . |
Title: Re: Denmark to make world become worst place ever Post by tallowood on Apr 6th, 2009 at 10:06am
I know it is not Rasmussen but the meaning is essentially the same.
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Title: Re: Denmark to make world become worst place ever Post by easel on Apr 6th, 2009 at 1:21pm
That country lets known Muslim terrorists gather and plot.
Yet you still support this guy? |
Title: Re: Denmark to make world become worst place ever Post by tallowood on Apr 6th, 2009 at 2:02pm easel wrote on Apr 6th, 2009 at 1:21pm:
I support freedom of expression and Denmark have upheld it against howling muslim mob. I am against Ramunsen's alleged apology. Muslims may wish it but will they get it? |
Title: Re: Denmark to make world become worst place ever Post by helian on Apr 6th, 2009 at 6:10pm
Looks like Rasmussen is holding out...
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http://politiken.dk/newsinenglish/article685161.ece And according to TIME Magazine : Quote:
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Title: Re: Denmark to make world become worst place ever Post by sprintcyclist on Apr 6th, 2009 at 7:21pm easel - quite a fair coment from you. I don't see that he allowed known terrorists to meet and make plans. However, we can differ on thoughts. No, I'm not too keen on anyone who "permits" terrorists. rasmussans latest comments are more to my liking. |
Title: Re: Denmark to make world become worst place ever Post by helian on Apr 6th, 2009 at 8:43pm Sprintcyclist wrote on Apr 6th, 2009 at 7:21pm:
And Turkey's accession an example of worldly practicalities first over heavy handed, self-defeating religiosity. Of course politicians being what they are (Turkish ones being no different to Danish), they may have flogged the cartoon thing for all it was worth to gain prominence in NATO. After all they want acceptance into the EU. And that’s politics. |
Title: Re: Denmark to make world become worst place ever Post by tallowood on Apr 6th, 2009 at 8:55pm
Pollitics are fun:
Obama Praises Ataturk for Putting Turkey on ‘Path to Democracy’ That makes Endrogan who dislikes Ataturk secularism looks like a goose at home and abroad. |
Title: Re: Denmark to make world become worst place ever Post by easel on Apr 6th, 2009 at 11:17pm Sprintcyclist wrote on Apr 6th, 2009 at 7:21pm:
He let Chechens in to plot and plan. |
Title: Re: Denmark to make world become worst place ever Post by tallowood on Apr 7th, 2009 at 8:09am easel wrote on Apr 6th, 2009 at 11:17pm:
Ruslan Khasbulatov was the first speaker of the Russian Parliament and he flew to Copenhagen directly from Moscow. Why would Danes not let him in? Of course he used to be a commie but he quit the communist party in August 1991 well before the World Chechen Congress in Copenhagen. He is still in Russia now and teaches economics in Department of International Economy at the Plekhanov Russian Academy of Economics. |
Title: Re: Denmark to make world become worst place ever Post by soren on Apr 23rd, 2009 at 7:53pm
Islam is to stay outside the wall for a little longer yet:
THE most underreported story of the month must surely be the announcement by French Foreign Minister Bernard Kouchner that he no longer supports the accession of Turkey as a full member of the European Union. http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,25371890-7583,00.html Underreported, eh? How inexplicable! A pretend country of the Musulman pesruation, for centuries the deadly enemy of everything that Europe is, wants to become European. But of course it has no idea. Turkey, like all other pseudo-countries, is like those goons in the airport scene in Fifth Element, disguised as humans but bulging, bursting as the monsters withing want out. It's the moustashes - dead give-aways. Can't have a whole country-ful of moustashoid johnnies with olive complection and sabres up their sleeves go around claiming to be heirs to Voltaire, Kierkegaard, Hume, Dante, Goethe andd Cervantes. Next time you see a Turk, pull his moustashe and say: "That's for Rasmussen." I dare you.i |
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