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Message started by mantra on Apr 29th, 2009 at 9:02am

Title: Asylum detention centre overcrowded
Post by mantra on Apr 29th, 2009 at 9:02am
It doesn't look too bad on Xmas Island. At least Howard had the foresight to build decent facilities.


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THEY are images that give a rare glimpse of life in the Federal Government's immigration detention facility on Christmas Island.

This photo, taken yesterday, shows groups of asylum seekers sitting in the shade or congregating together near a tennis court. Others are involved in a game of cricket.

There are 266 people in detention there with a boat carrying 54 asylum seekers the latest to be intercepted 90 nautical miles southwest of Ashmore Reef on Saturday.

The passengers, along with two crew members, were transferred to HMAS Albany and are due to arrive at the facility today.

Earlier this week the Shire of Christmas Island called for more Federal Government investment in houses for the territory, revealing accommodation resources had been stretched to the limit in recent times.

Shire president Gordon Thompson said an increased number of immigration, Customs and security officers on the island, as well as lawyers and carers assigned to the asylum seekers' cases, meant only a handful of beds had been left unoccupied.

Mr Thompson urged the Federal Government to either process the asylum seekers' claims more quickly or build more facilities.

There are about 110 hotel rooms on Christmas Island.

"If the Immigration Department intends to keep housing its staff here then they need to make an investment in more housing," he said.

"At present, if we had a planeload of tourists come in today there would be nowhere for them to stay."

There are 161 single male asylum seekers at the island's $400-million Immigration Detention Centre.

Forty others, living in family groups, stay at a construction camp.

A further 33 are in community detention, including unaccompanied minors cared for by paid guardians.

A list of "suitable gifts" for the detainees on the department's website includes "rubber balls, tennis balls, soccer balls (and) yo-yos".




Title: Re: Asylum detention centre overcrowded
Post by sprintcyclist on Apr 29th, 2009 at 9:49am

detention centre !!!!!!!!!!!!

looks like school grounds  or a flash caravan park, no wonder they are swarmng over here.

Can I go there for a holiday too ????

Title: Re: Asylum detention centre overcrowded
Post by skippy on Apr 29th, 2009 at 9:58am

Sprintcyclist wrote on Apr 29th, 2009 at 9:49am:
detention centre !!!!!!!!!!!!

looks like school grounds  or a flash caravan park, no wonder they are swarmng over here.

Can I go there for a holiday too ????


You can blame the rodent for that,he built it. ::)

Title: Re: Asylum detention centre overcrowded
Post by sprintcyclist on Apr 29th, 2009 at 10:31am

and more guests on the way, thanks to ruddthepopulist .......



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FOUR more suspected unlawful entrants have been found, this time on Deliverance Island, in Torres Strait off far north Queensland.

Home Affairs Minister Bob Debus said a surveillance flight conducted by a Border Protection Command helicopter found the four men about 55km off Papua New Guinea (PNG).
"The four adult males have been transferred by helicopter to Customs and Border Protection temporary detention facilities on Horn Island, where they will be formally detained by DIAC officers," the minister said in a statement.

"They will undergo health, security and other checks to establish their identity and reasons for their voyage and further decisions on processing will be made in due course."

The men did not have a boat with them and it was unclear where they had come from, he said.

"Deliverance Island is an offshore excised place under the Migration Act.

"The Rudd government has maintained the system of excision so that unauthorised arrivals at excised offshore places cannot apply for a refugee visa under the Migration Act unless they raise claims that prima facie may engage Australia's protection obligations," Mr Debus said.



http://www.news.com.au/couriermail/story/0,23739,25403228-952,00.html

Title: Re: Asylum detention centre overcrowded
Post by skippy on Apr 29th, 2009 at 10:54am

Sprintcyclist wrote on Apr 29th, 2009 at 10:31am:
and more guests on the way, thanks to ruddthepopulist .......



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FOUR more suspected unlawful entrants have been found, this time on Deliverance Island, in Torres Strait off far north Queensland.

Home Affairs Minister Bob Debus said a surveillance flight conducted by a Border Protection Command helicopter found the four men about 55km off Papua New Guinea (PNG).
"The four adult males have been transferred by helicopter to Customs and Border Protection temporary detention facilities on Horn Island, where they will be formally detained by DIAC officers," the minister said in a statement.

"They will undergo health, security and other checks to establish their identity and reasons for their voyage and further decisions on processing will be made in due course."

The men did not have a boat with them and it was unclear where they had come from, he said.

"Deliverance Island is an offshore excised place under the Migration Act.

"The Rudd government has maintained the system of excision so that unauthorised arrivals at excised offshore places cannot apply for a refugee visa under the Migration Act unless they raise claims that prima facie may engage Australia's protection obligations," Mr Debus said.



http://www.news.com.au/couriermail/story/0,23739,25403228-952,00.html


At least we haven't hit the 12 thousand a year we were getting under Howard hey sprint?
How come Howard lied about all those refugees ? remember he reckons we were only getting a few hundred here and there and now we find out the Howard gov were lying , you must feel pretty bloody stupid seeing as tho you hang on every word the rodent spoke, why do you think he deceived Australians and immigrants like you so much sprint? maybe his nickname of lying little rodent was very appropriate.




Title: Re: Asylum detention centre overcrowded
Post by helian on Apr 29th, 2009 at 11:39am

Sprintcyclist wrote on Apr 29th, 2009 at 9:49am:
detention centre !!!!!!!!!!!!

looks like school grounds  or a flash caravan park, no wonder they are swarmng over here.

Can I go there for a holiday too ????

What is it about these self-declared 'Christians'? Heads full of spite.

Title: Re: Asylum detention centre overcrowded
Post by skippy on Apr 29th, 2009 at 11:54am

NorthOfNorth wrote on Apr 29th, 2009 at 11:39am:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Apr 29th, 2009 at 9:49am:
detention centre !!!!!!!!!!!!

looks like school grounds  or a flash caravan park, no wonder they are swarmng over here.

Can I go there for a holiday too ????

What is it about these self-declared 'Christians'? Heads full of spite.

Yea, you wouldn't want to be caught in the trenches with one would you.

Title: Re: Asylum detention centre overcrowded
Post by sprintcyclist on Apr 29th, 2009 at 12:54pm

the 12,000 a year were legitimate immigrants.

howard stopped the crims from profitting.

the centre looks ok to me. Can play cricket or just laze under a shade, wait for lunch.
Wonder if they have hula girls to dance later on in the day ??

Title: Re: Asylum detention centre overcrowded
Post by skippy on Apr 29th, 2009 at 12:57pm

Sprintcyclist wrote on Apr 29th, 2009 at 12:54pm:
the 12,000 a year were legitimate immigrants.

howard stopped the crims from profitting.

the centre looks ok to me. Can play cricket or just laze under a shade, wait for lunch.
Wonder if they have hula girls to dance later on in the day ??


I doubt it, I think the legitimate refugees in there  would prefer belly dancers.

Title: Re: Asylum detention centre overcrowded
Post by sprintcyclist on Apr 29th, 2009 at 3:19pm
more and more .........
this is a record for the rudd populist ideas


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AS four unlawful entrants were found on a tiny island in the Torres Strait, it is thought that yet another boatload of up to 60 people is headed to Australia.

Home Affairs Minister Bob Debus is yet to confirm the movements of the latest boatload of unlawful entrants which is sailing towards Ashmore Reef 840km west of Darwin.

He is due to make an official statement later today and the revelation will take the total number of boat arrivals to 16 in eight months.
The news comes as it emerged four men, believed to be of South Asian and Middle Eastern origins, had been on Deliverance Island, in Australian waters close to the Indonesian border, since at least last Friday.

Torres Strait Island leaders, in the states northernmost outpost, said the trickle had become a flood of suspected asylum seekers.

The four men have been detained on Horn Island and are likely to be flown to Christmas Island in the next few days.

Mr Debus said a surveillance flight conducted by a Border Protection Command helicopter found the four men about 55km off Papua New Guinea (PNG).

"The four adult males have been transferred by helicopter to Customs and Border Protection temporary detention facilities on Horn Island, where they will be formally detained by DIAC officers," the minister said in a statement.

"They will undergo health, security and other checks to establish their identity and reasons for their voyage and further decisions on processing will be made in due course."

The men did not have a boat with them and it was unclear where they had come from, he said.

"Deliverance Island is an offshore excised place under the Migration Act.

"The Rudd government has maintained the system of excision so that unauthorised arrivals at excised offshore places cannot apply for a refugee visa under the Migration Act unless they raise claims that prima facie may engage Australia's protection obligations," Mr Debus said.

There are 266 people in detention in the Christmas Island immigration facility after a boat carrying 54 asylum seekers was the latest to be intercepted 90 nautical miles southwest of Ashmore Reef on Saturday.

The passengers, along with two crew members, were transferred to HMAS Albany and was due to arrive at the facility today.



http://www.news.com.au/couriermail/story/0,23739,25403228-952,00.html

Title: Re: Asylum detention centre overcrowded
Post by Aussie Nationalist on Apr 29th, 2009 at 5:42pm
Two words...


OPEN FIRE

Title: Re: Asylum detention centre overcrowded
Post by Amadd on Apr 29th, 2009 at 6:02pm
A reasonable comment that I heard yesterday pointed to the risks that these people took to get to a democratic country and the likelihood that they'd be an asset to the nation.
Of course these days there are people who would also risk live and limb to cause destruction to our country, so that must also be taken into account.
The bottom line is, we're supposebly not a country of barbarians so we should treat these people with proper dignity.


Title: Re: Asylum detention centre overcrowded
Post by mantra on Apr 29th, 2009 at 7:00pm
Terrorists are more likely to be dual citizens (thanks Howard) or come in through the front door on a visa.  There wouldn't be too many who would risk their lives on a rickety old boat hoping that they might make it alive to Australia one day.  

This is a brief report of some who were sent back under Howard...

The Edmund Rice Centre for Justice and Community Education interviewed 41 failed asylum seekers (37 Afghans, 2 Iraqis, 1 Palestinian, and 1 Congolese from Democratic Republic of Congo) after their deportations and found that authorities had returned all of them to dangerous situations. Two returned Afghan asylum seekers died and there was strong evidence of the deaths of seven others. Unknown assailants in Baghdad reportedly killed an Iraqi Shi'a refugee just a few months after Australia had deported him in 2004. Fellow émigrés speculated that ex-Baathists or al Qaeda agents killed him as they viewed Australian deportees as spies.

http://www.unhcr.org/refworld/topic,4565c22517,4565c25f221,469638791e,0.html


Title: Re: Asylum detention centre overcrowded
Post by sprintcyclist on Apr 29th, 2009 at 9:10pm
Aus nat - that message would get back and stop others coming.

amadd - those people are criminals relying on leftard sentiment to get whatever they want.

Title: Re: Asylum detention centre overcrowded
Post by tallowood on Apr 29th, 2009 at 9:14pm

DILLIGAF wrote on Apr 29th, 2009 at 5:42pm:
Two words...


OPEN FIRE



Do you mean to set asylum detention centres in Vic?


Title: Re: Asylum detention centre overcrowded
Post by sprintcyclist on Apr 29th, 2009 at 10:51pm

amadd - those people are criminals who rely on leftard sentiment to get whatever they want.

mantra - at worst, they lived longer by becoming crims. Most likely the lefty organisation is making the story up.

Title: Re: Asylum detention centre overcrowded
Post by sprintcyclist on Apr 29th, 2009 at 11:05pm

I'm losing track of the flotilla.
is this two ILLEGAL boats today ??????????


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Two more boatloads of asylum seekers have been intercepted in Australian waters.

One boat, carrying seven people, was intercepted north of Ashmore Reef. The other, carrying 72 people, was found 27 nautical miles west of Bathurst Island.

The Home Affairs Minister, Bob Debus, said the 79 on board would be taken to Christmas Island for processing.

Last night, four men found on an Australian island off the coast of Papua New Guinea were detained.

Mr Debus said the crew of a Border Protection Command helicopter detected the suspected unauthorised arrivals on Deliverance Island, about 30 nautical miles off the PNG coast.

They were taken to a temporary detention centre on Horn Island where they will undergo routine health, security and other checks to establish their identity.

There was no boat found.

Deliverance Island is in the excision zone, meaning they cannot apply automatically for a refugee visa.

If they are found to be owed protection, they will be allowed to apply for a permanent visa.


http://www.smh.com.au/national/two-more-asylum-seeker-boats-intercepted-20090429-an6i.html

Title: Re: Asylum detention centre overcrowded
Post by skippy on Apr 30th, 2009 at 9:02am

Sprintcyclist wrote on Apr 29th, 2009 at 10:51pm:
amadd - those people are criminals who rely on leftard sentiment to get whatever they want.

mantra - at worst, they lived longer by becoming crims. Most likely the lefty organisation is making the story up.


Why do rightards live in denial? sprint there has never ever been a case of a boat refugee failing an ASIO or federal gov security check.
These people come here to live in a democratic country, you hate facts don't you? they just prove that your xenophobic bias  is unfounded.

The only people who make things up are the likes of you, all your figures are lies, no surprises there, and when we do set the record straight you refuse to accept facts, typical xenophobic immigrant, why do we let you xenophobe's into OUR country?
I might start up a go home  kiwi movement, you and your mob are the biggest bludgers on Australian society.

Title: Re: Asylum detention centre overcrowded
Post by sprintcyclist on Apr 30th, 2009 at 9:25am

Dear skippy,
do the boat people come here illegally ?
What is the fact on that ?
The facts on boat arrivals are what I read and consider to be true. I gave a reference.

The NZ and Aust govts have an agreement on kiwi dole bludgers.
Kiwis in aussie are a great asset for aussie.
Just for the record I have never been in the dole in aussie or NZ.

You ?

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