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Title: The Realists Post by Grendel on May 9th, 2009 at 11:00am
http://therealists.com.au/
To Multiculti supporters, Australian culture is all about diversity, where different races and cultures come together in a united way to form a wonderful society. When this belief of a multicultural utopia is challenged, their default behaviour is to label the dissenters as ignorant, racist and small minded…or perhaps just having a small town (REDNECK) mentality. If multicultists want understanding for their radical ideas, however, they should first think about doing some understanding themselves. Trying to get multicultists to open their mind and understand different point of view is a challenging task. |
Title: Re: The Realists Post by skippy on May 9th, 2009 at 11:15am
Oh boof, why do you hate other cultures sooooooooo much?
I love thai and chinese food I love kebabs I love Indian food I love greek food and Italian, but do you think it would taste as good if us "anglo aussies" just followed some recipe book ? All these cultures have helped make Australia what it is today, with their foods, fashion, genes,and even religion, Australia has one of the highest growths of Buddhism in the world, we wouldn't have those options if we'd stayed a purely christian country. The other point has to be what we breed, all that breeding between different cultures has created much better looking and much more world savvy Aussies than existed prior to these "multi" cultures coming to our shores. Why do you want a monoculture boof?how boring. |
Title: Re: The Realists Post by athos on May 9th, 2009 at 11:53am wrote on May 9th, 2009 at 11:15am:
It would be very boring indeed. |
Title: Re: The Realists Post by athos on May 9th, 2009 at 11:57am Grendel wrote on May 9th, 2009 at 11:00am:
Once again stop crying and talking, be proactive and start walking, f u c k around make more Anglo kids and you’ll be OK. Capito Sinore Englezo? |
Title: Re: The Realists Post by Grendel on May 9th, 2009 at 3:28pm
Dont hate em at all Squippy...
I just like em in their place... ie their own countries. I like our culture and would like to see it survive... wouldn't you? Why do you support all monocultures except the Australian one Squippo? Stupidity? Hypocrisy? or both? |
Title: Re: The Realists Post by Jim Profit on May 10th, 2009 at 12:59am In my mind, it's not about what country your born in. But what country you dedicate yourself too. Someone could be non-American all their life, and be American the moment they set foot on American soil. A culture is built upon the traditions, beliefs, and acceptance of those around us. So a culture does not HAVE to be exclusive. It just ussualy chooses to be because, well, people are assholes... It annoys me how in my country we're always talking about racism and poo like it's a big deal. It embaresses people when they come to relization that America is actually very open-minded when it comes to different ethenicies and racial divides. You don't see many "stick to their own kind!" and "this is an *insert noun here* nation!" Not unless they're involved in a radical seperatist group, are fairly old, or were raised by very puritan parents and carried on that sortof thought pattern. It doesn't really disgust me. I just find it to be ridiculous. I mean who are you really hurting but yourself? Doesn't life suck enough as it is without you putting up barriers between people you don't even know? There's more then enough people to dislike without the need for abitary concepts of race or nationality. |
Title: Re: The Realists Post by Grendel on May 10th, 2009 at 10:32am
YOU SHOULD TRY NOT CONFUSING RACE/NATIONALITY AND CULTURE jIM. I KNOW THIS IS DIFFICULT FOR AMERICANS.
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Title: Re: The Realists Post by skippy on May 10th, 2009 at 10:59am Grendel wrote on May 9th, 2009 at 3:28pm:
What if they were born here? this would be their country . What culture of"OURS", do you mean? The one that existed in the 1920s? 1950s? 1980s ? Which one do you actually mean? because throughout those times as our population changed so did our culture. As far as supporting ''all mono cultures and not ours" we , since British settlement, have evolved as a multi cultural nation, we are only 200 years old as this new nation and will continue to change. The alternative would be to accept the culture of the indigenous people of this land as they have been here many thousands of years and have built up a culture that we as invading white fellas have all but torn apart. |
Title: Re: The Realists Post by Grendel on May 10th, 2009 at 11:09am
yawn
If they were born here makes no difference squip. Does it? If you come to Australia you come you be Australian not Afghani or Iraqi or American or Italian. If you want to be another nationality then you migrate there and adopt their culture. Or stay where you are. I note you have no real rebuttal or argument. The Australian culture will evolve like any culture. The fact you seem to think replacing it with other cultures or allowing other cultures to exist but not it begs the question how stupid and hypocritical are you? |
Title: Re: The Realists Post by skippy on May 10th, 2009 at 11:34am Grendel wrote on May 10th, 2009 at 11:09am:
Oh boof, you put the yawn at the wrong end of the post. ::) |
Title: Re: The Realists Post by Grendel on May 10th, 2009 at 12:09pm
well anytime you think you've got a point apart from the one on your head feel free to make it sqippy
one more time for the dumberoo.. Australia for Australians... just add sqippy... The sad thing is idiots like; Skippy, Athos and Alan all back other national MONOCULTURES... its alright for them to exist... even within Australia and as enclaves within our culture. hypocrisy and stupidity all rolled into one. Cant handle the FACTS eh? |
Title: Re: The Realists Post by skippy on May 10th, 2009 at 4:24pm Grendel wrote on May 10th, 2009 at 12:09pm:
Australia has always had enclaves boof, catholic/protestant, aboriginal/Anglo, Irish/English, all from the beginning. Then we had our waves of migrants like the Jews, Italians, Greeks et al, they all had enclaves boof, ever go to marrickville in the 50s or 60s? The list goes on , but you notice that Greeks, Italians and even Chinese now live in areas that are in line with their socio economic status, not their background, the same will eventually happen with our modern day migrants. I wont bother with the rest of your rant, I don't lower myself to petty insults boof. ;D |
Title: Re: The Realists Post by Grendel on May 10th, 2009 at 5:23pm
No insults involved sqippy... just the FACTS...
Do you have any clue what a national culture is? Of course you do because you recognise Italian, japanese, greek etc... suddenly to try and be right and deflect the real argument you suffer amnesia. DWMT squippy Oh and in case you forgot well know Lefty and sociologist Putnam did a study on the effects of Multiculti/diversity... it creates social disharmony. Just another nail in your naivety. Oh and BTW... if we've always had multiculturalism what were the policies of assimilation and integration, what was the WAP and oh yes.. why do we need a policy of Multiculturalism now? ;D ;D ;D |
Title: Re: The Realists Post by skippy on May 11th, 2009 at 2:26pm
Have you finished your little rant boof?
I'm wasting my time on you, your xenophobic beliefs are too entrenched. |
Title: Re: The Realists Post by Grendel on May 11th, 2009 at 10:13pm
I don't suffer from xenophobia or racism squippy... nor delusions like yourself.
Good idea to give up since you cant refute the truth, the fact you mention "the other" shows you really don't know what you are talking about. |
Title: Re: The Realists Post by skippy on May 12th, 2009 at 8:37am Grendel wrote on May 11th, 2009 at 10:13pm:
you're such a p rick boofy, are you back off the medication? I think you perform better when you take it, there's nothing to be ashamed of lots of people can't cope with every day life. |
Title: Re: The Realists Post by Grendel on May 12th, 2009 at 2:03pm
Just another flame eh Squippo...
:D |
Title: Re: The Realists Post by sprintcyclist on May 12th, 2009 at 2:34pm
the more monocultural a society is, the more cohesive it is.
The more people feel involved, safe and included. The more multicultural a society is, the more muddled it becomes. it's just like tipping some oil into some water. we end up with neither water or oil, but just an unuseable mess to be cleaned up the wealthiest safest healthiest societies are the most monocultural. |
Title: Re: The Realists Post by skippy on May 12th, 2009 at 3:07pm
Ha ha ha, the more mono culture a society is the more inbred it is. :D
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Title: Re: The Realists Post by sprintcyclist on May 12th, 2009 at 3:34pm skippy - hahahha true !!!!!!!!!!!! |
Title: Re: The Realists Post by Grendel on May 12th, 2009 at 8:13pm
Ah no that is completely untrue... race is NOT CULTURE.
However it has been proven in "scientific" studies that cultural diversity within a single society... leads to social disharmony and social withdrawal. Oh dear. |
Title: Re: The Realists Post by Calanen on May 12th, 2009 at 11:28pm wrote on May 12th, 2009 at 3:07pm:
Nah that's just where you live. Ipswich was it? Or Tasmania? |
Title: Re: The Realists Post by skippy on May 13th, 2009 at 2:24pm Calanen wrote on May 12th, 2009 at 11:28pm:
Just my point Calanen, Tassi is a great example of an isolated mono culture that could do with new blood, Ipswich is beyond saving, to many have the blood of Pauline. |
Title: Re: The Realists Post by Calanen on May 13th, 2009 at 2:36pm
Diversity of anything is not necessarily good. New ideas can be introduced from elsewhere, but they need to be subjected to criticism and analysis, like anyn other idea.
When you request diversity, and make an ideology immune from criticism, that is very very dangerous. The reason why totalitarian states prevent all criticism is based on keeping them in power and dominating the people. The same with ideologies, or one party states. By letting Islam hide behind the 'its my religion so i can do whatever I like' excuse, you are letting Islam set up as its own totalitarian state, that is immune from criticism. This means its ideas must be presented as unchallenged, and many of its ideas and beliefs are exceptionally dangerous. So while other ideas and beliefs are able to be criticised and challenged, in the quest for diversity, you are allowing an aggressive, violent and totalitarian ideology rise up and be immune from all criticism or means of checking its aggressive behaviour. What a bunch of morons Islam must consider us all to be. And they'd be right. |
Title: Re: The Realists Post by Grendel on May 13th, 2009 at 3:20pm
problem is your points are not based in the reality of the situation squippo....
mine are. |
Title: Re: The Realists Post by skippy on May 14th, 2009 at 12:40pm Grendel wrote on May 13th, 2009 at 3:20pm:
Your reality is based on xenophobia puppy. |
Title: Re: The Realists Post by Grendel on May 14th, 2009 at 6:46pm
Ah no its not and never has been... yours though is based on unreality, ignorance and denial.
DWMT |
Title: Re: The Realists Post by skippy on May 15th, 2009 at 8:27am Grendel wrote on May 14th, 2009 at 6:46pm:
You're wasting my time, but I'm use to that, I'll bet your teachers at school use to bag you for not listening as well. :-X |
Title: Re: The Realists Post by Grendel on May 15th, 2009 at 6:28pm
I was great student actually always at or near the top of my classes.... thanks for asking ;D
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Title: Re: The Realists Post by skippy on May 16th, 2009 at 9:04am Grendel wrote on May 15th, 2009 at 6:28pm:
Oh, just like me. 8-) |
Title: Re: The Realists Post by Grendel on May 16th, 2009 at 11:02am
Yeah but I was in the A classes and you were in the GA classes.
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Title: Re: The Realists Post by skippy on May 16th, 2009 at 11:30am Grendel wrote on May 16th, 2009 at 11:02am:
You're a very nasty little puppy. :'( |
Title: Re: The Realists Post by Grendel on May 16th, 2009 at 4:54pm
Truth isn't nasty is it Squippo?
It was just a guess. Now anytime you like to get back on topic and try a real argument that'll be fine by me. |
Title: Re: The Realists Post by skippy on May 17th, 2009 at 11:37am Grendel wrote on May 16th, 2009 at 4:54pm:
So you're finished trolling then,boof? |
Title: Re: The Realists Post by Grendel on May 17th, 2009 at 1:44pm
So answering your flames etc is trolling eh Squippo?
talk about spin.... LIKE I said... DWMT get back on topic. If you can. |
Title: Re: The Realists Post by skippy on May 17th, 2009 at 2:09pm wrote on May 13th, 2009 at 2:24pm:
See the above post boofo? thats when you started trolling me, I am just answering in kind, now instead of your flames how about a constructive opinion on my post? |
Title: Re: The Realists Post by Grendel on May 17th, 2009 at 6:22pm
Oh Squippo... you started flaming and trolling in your very first reply.
You just do it so much you don't get it. Oh BTW Squip I'm not even quoted in your example... oh dear. |
Title: Re: The Realists Post by mozzaok on May 17th, 2009 at 11:25pm Quote:
You harp on about mono culture, as if it is something other than an anachronistic ideal, from a time when transportation, and migration, were not readily accessible by large numbers of people. Australia has never been mono cultural, in the sense that the anti-multiculturalists try and portray the ideal. First fleeters were English, Irish, Scottish, Welsh, and possibly a few others, and do not let the "United" title in UK fool you, there was absolutely no love lost between those differing cultures, with the poms treating the Irish like white n1ggers under their boots. This mono cultural nirvana you preach is a non existent myth. Sure multiculturalism has problems, but at least it is based in reality, not some fantasy ideal of what never was. |
Title: Re: The Realists Post by Grendel on May 18th, 2009 at 7:31am
No I never use the term monoculture... you multicultists do as if its a derogatory term.
You delude yourself into believing that Australia's culture is non-existent or that a national culture is irrelevant yet hypocritically uphold the rights of other NATIONAL CULTURES to exist. ROTFLMAO :D :D :D You fail to recognise we have had 3 major settlement policies... the worst of all being Multiculti... you fail to recognise that it has been proven that diversity policy creates social disharmony and social disengagement. Neither of which can be good for a strong cohesive society. You believe in a myth... I believe in reality. |
Title: Re: The Realists Post by mozzaok on May 18th, 2009 at 9:19am
What reality is that Grendel?
All I ever seem to hear from the antis, is how a particular group, is going to bring about the destruction of our culture and heritage. I am old enough to have seen this change over the years, with different people being focused upon as the root of all evil, yet I am still aussie, I still like footy, and I can still buy a beer. Life is not too unbearable just yet. |
Title: Re: The Realists Post by Grendel on May 18th, 2009 at 9:25am
Blah, blah blah Mozz... I talk fact you... blah blah blah...
address reality for a change on this issue eh... I suppose your amnesia problem is the reason you keep forgetting groups that don't assimilate/integrate and have cultures which do not FIT IN with the AUSTRALIAN CULTURE. Our strength has been our ability to assimilate and integrate... not our ability to tolerate. But it is a good thing we are more tolerant than other cultures we import. But that is not the way to build a strong cohesive society. |
Title: Re: The Realists Post by sprintcyclist on May 20th, 2009 at 1:12pm Wonder what culture these offenders are ??? Quote:
http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/qld-news/were-going-to-rape-your-wives-four-on-assault-charge-20090520-beyt.html |
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