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Message started by Calanen on Jul 29th, 2009 at 7:06pm

Title: UK Police Must Wear Scarf in Mosques
Post by Calanen on Jul 29th, 2009 at 7:06pm

Muslims welcome police scarf move


Women police officers wearing headscarves

The head scarves are designed to match the force's uniform

Avon and Somerset Police is issuing head coverings to its female officers so they can enter mosques.

The force says the move will help its officers respect Muslim religious customs while carrying out their job.

The garments, designed to match the force's uniform, were designed in consultation with Muslim groups.

Imam Rashad Azami, of Bath, said: "This will go a long way in encouraging a trustful relationship between the police and the Muslim community."

Mr Azami, director of Bath Islamic Society, said: "The police have been working closely with the Muslim community in the area on many levels for the last few years."

There are two versions of the head coverings, to match the black of a police officer's uniform and the blue of the Police Community Support Officer uniforms.

Both carry the force's crest.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/somerset/8171151.stm

Title: Re: UK Police Must Wear Scarf in Mosques
Post by abu_rashid on Jul 29th, 2009 at 7:55pm
ooo how terrible... Muslims have conquered the police force, and forced them to submit to their demands... next they'll be enforcing shari'ah for us too!!

Must make your blood boil  ;D

Title: Re: UK Police Must Wear Scarf in Mosques
Post by Grendel on Jul 29th, 2009 at 8:08pm
Why should they be made to wear a scarf...  ?

Title: Re: UK Police Must Wear Scarf in Mosques
Post by abu_rashid on Jul 29th, 2009 at 8:39pm
It's irrelevant why they should be "made to", they _ARE_ wearing it.

Now I don't think they just go around acquiescing to everyone's demands willy nilly, they obviously feel they're getting some benefit out of it, and therefore have taken the initiative to do it.

Anyway, Britain (and Australia) are secular societies which respect all religions equally... and places of worship (for all religions) are inviolable places that are considered sacred and must be respected, their customs for entering them are unique and generally respected by all members of society... except for raving bigots I guess...

Also if you check your Bible, you'll find it's actually required in churches too... No not the OT either.

Title: Re: UK Police Must Wear Scarf in Mosques
Post by tallowood on Jul 29th, 2009 at 8:46pm
Criminals wear masks so police fight fire with fire  :o

Imagine masked people bashing masked people  8-)

Title: Re: UK Police Must Wear Scarf in Mosques
Post by Grendel on Jul 29th, 2009 at 9:17pm
Its not irrelevant at all Aboo...

as for the rest  ;D ;D ;D

once again...  why should they be made to wear a scarf?

Title: Re: UK Police Must Wear Scarf in Mosques
Post by Calanen on Jul 30th, 2009 at 1:21am
Just more dhimmitude. Let's everyone know who's *really* in charge.

The demands of sharia are endless..but is our dhimmitude? We will see.

Title: Re: UK Police Must Wear Scarf in Mosques
Post by sprintcyclist on Jul 30th, 2009 at 8:32am
given englands reputation and muslims flooding the place, they give an excellent example to avoid.
thought england was a secular state ?

Do the police wear a cross when entering a church ?

obviously they have to enter mosques much more often.
obviously they feel under more threat in mosques.

Title: Re: UK Police Must Wear Scarf in Mosques
Post by Yadda on Jul 30th, 2009 at 9:01am

abu_rashid wrote on Jul 29th, 2009 at 8:39pm:
It's irrelevant why they should be "made to", they _ARE_ wearing it.

Now I don't think they just go around acquiescing to everyone's demands willy nilly, they obviously feel they're getting some benefit out of it, and therefore have taken the initiative to do it.

Anyway, Britain (and Australia) are secular societies which respect all religions equally... and places of worship (for all religions) are inviolable places that are considered sacred and must be respected, their customs for entering them are unique and generally respected by all members of society...
....except for raving bigots I guess...


Also if you check your Bible, you'll find it's actually required in churches too... No not the OT either.






abu,

You hypocrite.

You good moslem.




Quote:
Anyway, Britain (and Australia) are secular societies which respect all religions equally... and places of worship (for all religions) are inviolable places that are considered sacred and must be respected, their customs for entering them are unique and generally respected by all members of society...
....except for raving bigots I guess...


Google,
moslems attack church christians
http://www.google.com.au/search?hl=en&q=moslems+attack+church+christians&btnG=Search&meta=

only 1,990,000 hits
/sarc off







Quote:
.....places of worship (for all religions) are inviolable places that are considered sacred and must be respected, their customs for entering them are unique and generally respected by all members of society...
.....except for raving bigots I guess...


Dictionary,
inviolable = = never to be infringed or dishonoured.


Google,
arms explosives stored in mosque [.....by moslem hypocrites!!!]
http://www.google.com.au/search?hl=en&q=arms+explosives+stored+in+mosque&btnG=Google+Search&meta=&aq=o&oq=






+++++++








Psalms 28:3
Draw me not away with the wicked, and with the workers of iniquity, which speak peace to their neighbours, but mischief is in their hearts.

Revelation 21:8
But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.







Title: Re: UK Police Must Wear Scarf in Mosques
Post by Yadda on Jul 30th, 2009 at 11:37am
Islam is Tolerant of Other Religions....

MORE MOSLEM LIES, TO BEGUILE THEIR USEFUL IDIOTS [un-informed non-moslems].







"Muslims often complain of the popular "misconceptions" about their religion in the West.
- - Islam is Tolerant of Other Religions
.....What Muslims call “tolerance,” others correctly identify as institutionalized discrimination.  The consignment of Jews and Christians to dhimmis under Islamic rule means that they are not allowed the same religious rights and freedoms as Muslims.
.....If tolerance simply means discouraging the mass slaughter of those of a different faith, then today's Islam generally meets this standard more often than not.  But, if tolerance means allowing people of other faiths the same religious liberties that Muslims enjoy, then Islam is fundamentally the most intolerant religion under the sun."

http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/Pages/Myths-of-Islam.htm#tolerance





The Koran....

"Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued."
http://www.usc.edu/schools/college/crcc/engagement/resources/texts/muslim/quran/009.qmt.html#009.030



The Hadith....

"Allah 's Apostle said, " I have been ordered to fight with the people till they say, 'None has the right to be worshipped but Allah,' ...."
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/fundamentals/hadithsunnah/bukhari/052.sbt.html#004.052.196i
THE LIE OF ISLAMIC/ MOSLEM TOLERANCE OF OTHER RELIGIONS, EXPOSED.....

Within moslem majority countries, ISLAM reveals that it is 'fearlessly' intolerant of all other cultures [and religious practices of non-moslems].

If you imagine that this is untrue, watch and listen to the words, which come out of the mouth of this Saudi moslem cleric....


"....Propagation of any other religion is prohibited. Even construction of any place of worship is prohibited...."

YOUTUBE...
Non-Muslims will not have equal Humanrights [in muslim countries]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6jYUL7eBdHg







Title: Re: UK Police Must Wear Scarf in Mosques
Post by abu_rashid on Jul 30th, 2009 at 1:18pm
sprint,


Quote:
Do the police wear a cross when entering a church ?


Wearing a cross is a religious act. Covering part of your body is not. In fact the Bible clearly advises Christian women to veil, as did all of the early church fathers, and in pretty much all artwork from the early Christian era, you'll almost never see a Christian woman unveiled in public. Covering the hair is simply modesty, as is covering the breasts, thighs and private parts, there's no 'devotional' or 'worship' aspect to it in and of itself. The only reason I can imagine you couldn't fathom something so simple would be you're too blinded by your hatred to see reason.

If the Police were being asked to wear crescent/star necklaces, then I could see your point.

Yadda,


Quote:
Islam is Tolerant of Other Religions....


The proof is in the pudding pal. There's countless religions and thousands of religious places of worship existent in the Islamic world after over 1400 years of Islamic Shari'ah rule.

After 2000 years of Christian rule, there's not a single non-Christian religion left in Europe, and no places of worship, apart from those built after the fall of Christianity. In fact the oldest Synagogue in Europe is one built in Andalus (Muslim Spain)...

And in fact it only took Christianity about a quarter of that time to erase every single religion from the landscape of Europe.

By their fruits shall ye know them... is it not?

Title: Re: UK Police Must Wear Scarf in Mosques
Post by sprintcyclist on Jul 30th, 2009 at 3:42pm
abu - For muslims it IS a religious act
For us infidels wearing a scarf in subservience to muslims is an act of slavehood.


the rest of your post is the usual poo.
I have rarely seen any women in church wearing a veil.
jesus says nothing about it.

A quote I found is this "I also want women to dress modestly, with decency and propriety, not with braided hair or gold or pearls or expensive clothes, but with good deeds, appropriate for women who profess to worship God."
A suggestion, not from Jesus.

police are not asked to wear crosses because christians are tolerant and not aggressive.
they are now going to wear a scarf in mosques because muslims are intolerant and aggressive.

1 Timothy 2:8-10

This is what Jesus says in relation to clothes
" "Therefore I tell you, do not worry about your life, what you will eat or drink; or about your body, what you will wear.
Is not life more important than food, and the body more important than clothes? "

Matthew 6:25

Title: Re: UK Police Must Wear Scarf in Mosques
Post by Yadda on Jul 30th, 2009 at 4:51pm

abu_rashid wrote on Jul 30th, 2009 at 1:18pm:
sprint,


Quote:
Do the police wear a cross when entering a church ?


Wearing a cross is a religious act. Covering part of your body is not. In fact the Bible clearly advises Christian women to veil, as did all of the early church fathers, and in pretty much all artwork from the early Christian era, you'll almost never see a Christian woman unveiled in public. Covering the hair is simply modesty, as is covering the breasts, thighs and private parts, there's no 'devotional' or 'worship' aspect to it in and of itself. The only reason I can imagine you couldn't fathom something so simple would be you're too blinded by your hatred to see reason.

If the Police were being asked to wear crescent/star necklaces, then I could see your point.

Yadda,

[quote]Islam is Tolerant of Other Religions....


The proof is in the pudding pal. There's countless religions and thousands of religious places of worship existent in the Islamic world after over 1400 years of Islamic Shari'ah rule.

After 2000 years of Christian rule, there's not a single non-Christian religion left in Europe, and no places of worship, apart from those built after the fall of Christianity. In fact the oldest Synagogue in Europe is one built in Andalus (Muslim Spain)...

And in fact it only took Christianity about a quarter of that time to erase every single religion from the landscape of Europe.

By their fruits shall ye know them... is it not?[/quote]



abu,

What i will concede, is that today, Christians have corrupted themselves,
.....and i will 'concede', that ISLAM is not a religion, but merely a cult of lies, deception, and violence.
.....'By their fruits shall ye know them.'




Is this man, truly a servant of the Holy One of Israel?

Or is Dr Rowan Williams, the Archbishop of Canterbury, just another useful idiot for ISLAM, and another clueless humanist ???....


7 February 2008
Sharia law in UK is 'unavoidable'
Dr Williams says Muslims should have a choice in legal disputes
The Archbishop of Canterbury says the adoption of certain aspects of Sharia law in the UK "seems unavoidable".
Dr Rowan Williams told Radio 4's World at One that the UK has to "face up to the fact" that some of its citizens do not relate to the British legal system.
.....He says Muslims should not have to choose between "the stark alternatives of cultural loyalty or state loyalty".
.....Dr Williams said an approach to law which simply said "there's one law for everybody and that's all there is to be said, and anything else that commands your loyalty or allegiance is completely irrelevant in the processes of the courts - I think that's a bit of a danger".

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/7232661.stm
http://www.jihadwatch.org/dhimmiwatch/archives/019843.php



Quote:
".....an approach to law which simply said there's one law for everybody....I think that's a bit of a danger."
....says, Dr Rowan Williams, the Archbishop of Canterbury.



Translation of Dr Rowan Williams words, by Yadda,

'Equality under the law, in the UK, should be determined to be, discrimination in law, against moslems.

Just as equality under the law for moslems, and non-moslems, is not tolerated,
.....IN ALL SHARIA JURISDICTIONS.'

Moslems must be superior.






"Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued."
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/quran/009.qmt.html#009.029








Title: Re: UK Police Must Wear Scarf in Mosques
Post by Calanen on Jul 30th, 2009 at 7:11pm

Quote:
The proof is in the pudding pal. There's countless religions and thousands of religious places of worship existent in the Islamic world after over 1400 years of Islamic Shari'ah rule.


That's because, Muslim societies without the crutch of petroleum or opium or aid are not able to function or produce anything at all, without the dhimmis around to do the work.  Slavery is still slavery.

Title: Re: UK Police Must Wear Scarf in Mosques
Post by abu_rashid on Jul 30th, 2009 at 7:32pm
sprint,


Quote:
abu - For muslims it IS a religious act


No more than a man wearing shorts that cover past his knee is...

It is not in and of itself a religious act. There is no religious signifigance attached to any specific article of clothing in Islam, just that clothing must cover the areas deemed nakedness.

I realise I'm banging my head against a brickwall here, since you simply don't possess the mental faculties required to comprehend these concepts.

You are a bitter little man driven by nothing but hate, and ironically you claim to follow Jesus (pbuh), who said "love thy enemy"...


Quote:
Matthew 5:44 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you


Like with yadda, you need to spend more time reading your Bible instead of jihadwatch and all the other garbage you fill your hateful mind with.


Quote:
For us infidels wearing a scarf in subservience to muslims is an act of slavehood


There are plenty of Christians today who still do veil, Anabaptists for a start... Are they subservient to Islam?


Quote:
jesus says nothing about it


The NT has quite a few quotes about covering hair for women...


Quote:
1 Corinthians 11:5-6 But every woman that prayeth or prophesieth with [her] head uncovered dishonoureth her head: for that is even all one as if she were shaven. For if the woman be not covered, let her also be shorn: but if it be a shame for a woman to be shorn or shaven, let her be covered.


Also here is a common image Christians use to represent Mary (pbuh), the blessed mother of the Messiah (pbuh), and she is always wearing hijab...



Yet you dislike and hate such a modest attire? What would you say to the mother of the Messiah (pbut) if you saw her? Would you feel hatred and spite towards her for wearing hijab?

Yadda,


Quote:
hat i will concede, is that today, Christians have corrupted themselves,


We could seriously examine such an explanation if the wiping out of non-Christian religions was occuring now in later times, but most of the crusades against heathens in Europe occured in the very early days of Christianity. What you're telling me then is that Christians have been corrupted from their very early days.. is this right? Were the heads and saints of the church who ordered these things also corrupt? In fact there's been no point in Europe's Christian history in which it wasn't dominating and wiping out all competition. IT _IS_ the modus operandi of Christianity, and the only thing that stopped it was that the atheists amongst your society siezed control and subdued you, so that you could do it no more. There was no self-imposed regret or remorse at the "corruption" that had supposedly set in, this WAS and IS the methodology of Christianity, you've just been painted into a corner and don't have the ability to carry it on today. But... we still do see the American army, trying to carry Christianity to the Muslim lands, on the barrel of a huge whopping tank gun no less..

Or how about this killing machine christened the "New Testament"



But no.. Christians wouldn't be doing that, would they? Christians are all peaceful and meek, love thy enemy etc.. except if your enemy doesn't love you (as most generally don't), then blow him to smithereens, right?

Hypocrites. At least Islam is honest about it's willingness to defend and stand up for itself, you guys are just self-deceiving habitual liars.



Your religion has a lot more blood on it's hands than you'd like to admit, and it's mounting more and more each day. These scumbags above are 'testament' to it.


Title: Re: UK Police Must Wear Scarf in Mosques
Post by abu_rashid on Jul 30th, 2009 at 7:33pm

Quote:
That's because, Muslim societies without the crutch of petroleum or opium or aid are not able to function or produce anything at all, without the dhimmis around to do the work.  Slavery is still slavery.


Great reasoning Calanen. Muslims let other religions survive, to enslave them... the Christians just wiped them all out equally and fairly without any discrimination... Yeh I'm sorta following your logic, not!

Title: Re: UK Police Must Wear Scarf in Mosques
Post by soren on Jul 30th, 2009 at 9:06pm

abu_rashid wrote on Jul 30th, 2009 at 7:33pm:

Quote:
That's because, Muslim societies without the crutch of petroleum or opium or aid are not able to function or produce anything at all, without the dhimmis around to do the work.  Slavery is still slavery.


Great reasoning Calanen. Muslims let other religions survive, to enslave them... the Christians just wiped them all out equally and fairly without any discrimination... Yeh I'm sorta following your logic, not!


You have followed it very well.

But you forget that after the Enlightenment - of which you are so afraid - Christians stopped persecuting other religions and have accepted gradual secularisation.

Title: Re: UK Police Must Wear Scarf in Mosques
Post by abu_rashid on Jul 30th, 2009 at 9:09pm
soren, if you actually had the common courtesy to read my posts in full, you'd see I addressed this issue. Christians didin't relinquish the power to wipe out other religions, it was clutched from their fighting, struggling hands... And as Iraq, Afghanistan etc. show, they're eager to get right back into it.

Title: Re: UK Police Must Wear Scarf in Mosques
Post by soren on Jul 30th, 2009 at 9:20pm

abu_rashid wrote on Jul 30th, 2009 at 9:09pm:
soren, if you actually had the common courtesy to read my posts in full, you'd see I addressed this issue. Christians didin't relinquish the power to wipe out other religions, it was clutched from their fighting, struggling hands... And as Iraq, Afghanistan etc. show, they're eager to get right back into it.


You sound like Bin Laden, as usual.

Have you heard of the Great Game? That is what is happening in the Middle East and South Aisa, not a friggin' Crusade.

Christ was nailed up for challenging religious authority.  So if you say that the Churches resisted secularisation, you are right. Like the mullahs and the ayatollas. But the idea of Christianity is not the same as the church. The separation is real and is in principle - unlike with your mob.

Title: Re: UK Police Must Wear Scarf in Mosques
Post by tallowood on Jul 30th, 2009 at 9:26pm
If Christians wanted to to wipe out other religions as abu claims islam would not exist by now. The reality check shows that Christians actually helped islam to survive by standing firm against the atheist state, which had the best at nearly wiping out other religions especially islam.


Title: Re: UK Police Must Wear Scarf in Mosques
Post by abu_rashid on Jul 30th, 2009 at 10:00pm
tallow, go and pick up an introductory history book... you need it.

Not a single Mosque was allowed to stand in all of Europe, except in the lands Islam managed to secure and maintain peace over. It wasn't till the last 100 or so years that mosques were permitted in Europe, and even today, we find the extremely bigoted Europeans still trying to fight and destroy and remove them, and prevent any being built.

But Muslims were noble rulers, and that didn't prevent them from allowing Christians to have churches in Muslim lands.

Title: Re: UK Police Must Wear Scarf in Mosques
Post by sprintcyclist on Jul 30th, 2009 at 10:34pm

abu - you have deflected again and gone offtopic.

when you return to the topic I will reply.
If you want to discuss the crusades in its own thread I will reply.

Title: Re: UK Police Must Wear Scarf in Mosques
Post by abu_rashid on Jul 30th, 2009 at 11:46pm
Actually I only mentioned the internal European crusades... not "The Crusades".

I did not deflect, I answered every single point mentioned, and then some. If you wanna see deflectors, come and watch any topic I start, and see your butt head mates not even address a single iota of my threads, but instead begin an instant tirade against Islam...

Title: Re: UK Police Must Wear Scarf in Mosques
Post by sprintcyclist on Jul 31st, 2009 at 12:46am

abu - repeated deflection !!! well done.
open a thread on it, I will reply.

soren - good differentiation demonstrated between christianity and churches

Title: Re: UK Police Must Wear Scarf in Mosques
Post by Grendel on Jul 31st, 2009 at 7:18am
Some people need to wake up to the fact that it isn't the Middle Ages anymore and that Religions are not at war with each other...  well all but one probably...  perhaps someone needs to tel them.

Title: Re: UK Police Must Wear Scarf in Mosques
Post by soren on Jul 31st, 2009 at 8:08am

abu_rashid wrote on Jul 30th, 2009 at 11:46pm:
If you wanna see deflectors, come and watch any topic I start, and see your butt head mates not even address a single iota of my threads, but instead begin an instant tirade against Islam...



Because everything you ever say IS about Islam (except when you talk about computers). As there is no separation of Islam from life, your every utterance IS propaganda for Islam. This is your little personal jihad, this forum.  
I wonder how you manage to keep it separate from computer-talk, computers being the inventions of the evil American and British infidels.


Title: Re: UK Police Must Wear Scarf in Mosques
Post by Calanen on Jul 31st, 2009 at 8:51am

Quote:
computers being the inventions of the evil American and British infidels.


No, muslims invented computers. Ask Abu, I'm sure he will tell you.

Title: Re: UK Police Must Wear Scarf in Mosques
Post by abu_rashid on Jul 31st, 2009 at 9:38am
According to Carly Florina (former CEO of HP) without Muslim civilisation, we probably wouldn't have had the means we required to facilitate the technological revolution...

Anyway, Islam never said anything about abstaining from technologies developed by other civilisations, in fact Muhammad (pbuh) told us to seek knowledge even if from China. Muslims were always innovative improvers of others technologies...

Title: Re: UK Police Must Wear Scarf in Mosques
Post by Grendel on Jul 31st, 2009 at 11:26am
Well it seems lately they've fallen in a hole then eh.
never mind you can always blame everybody else for it  ;D

Title: Re: UK Police Must Wear Scarf in Mosques
Post by Yadda on Jul 31st, 2009 at 11:56am

Soren wrote on Jul 30th, 2009 at 9:20pm:
Christ was nailed up for challenging religious authority.  So if you say that the Churches resisted secularisation, you are right. Like the mullahs and the ayatollas. But the idea of Christianity is not the same as the church. The separation is real and is in principle - unlike with your mob.




abu,

err, what Soren said, above!






As i already said, above [in this thread], organised Christianity, is i concede, largely lost, and corrupt.
....many 'Christians', innately, recognise what is good, and want to be good, but they are snared in, and by, the world.
....they fail.


Whereas, ISLAM [in contrast to Christianity, Christians] is plain evil, and wicked.

ISLAM portrays itself to non-moslems as being benign, misunderstood, tolerant, pious.
....ALL LIES.

Whereas, examination of ISLAM, its doctrines, its scripture', reveals what ISLAM truly is,
.....plain evil, and plain wicked.

ISLAM, moslems [like yourself abu], are in denial of objective TRUTH.



abu,

Wake up to yourself.

Goodness, is its own reward.

Likewise, the lies, deception, and violence, of ISLAM being perpetrated upon mankind,
....will bring their own reward.i


Part 080 - Muhammad's Sunna
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RvYvUlAmXVE

Part 095 - Muhammad and Deception
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFc7oV7E6jE


A full list of all, al Rassooli's "AhmadsQuran3" talks, available on YOUTUBE....
http://www.al-rassooli.com/ahmadsquran3/

http://www.inthenameofallah.org/







abu,

Keep denying your own culpability [in being an apologist for evil ISLAM].

Dictionary,
culpable = = deserving blame.

When you stop breathing abu, you will have to give account, but i'm sure that your denials will count for something.
/sarc off


The Koran....

"Behold! they fold up their hearts, that they may lie hid from Him! Ah even when they cover themselves with their garments, He knoweth what they conceal, and what they reveal: for He knoweth well the (inmost secrets) of the hearts."
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/quran/011.qmt.html#011.005


"Then, on the Day of Judgment,.....Then would they offer submission (with the pretence), "We did no evil (knowingly)." (The angels will reply), "Nay, but verily Allah knoweth all that ye did;"
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/quran/016.qmt.html#016.027
.v 27, 28







Title: Re: UK Police Must Wear Scarf in Mosques
Post by skippy on Jul 31st, 2009 at 12:08pm
Would you Christians find it offensive to cover your legs and remove your footwear when you entered a Buddhist temple?

Title: Re: UK Police Must Wear Scarf in Mosques
Post by Yadda on Jul 31st, 2009 at 12:22pm

abu_rashid wrote on Jul 30th, 2009 at 10:00pm:
Not a single Mosque was allowed to stand in all of Europe, except in the lands Islam managed to secure and maintain peace over. It wasn't till the last 100 or so years that mosques were permitted in Europe, and even today, we find the extremely bigoted Europeans still trying to fight and destroy and remove them, and prevent any being built.

But Muslims were noble rulers, and that didn't prevent them from allowing Christians to have churches in Muslim lands.



abu,

Clearly, the thinkers of that age knew full well what ISLAM represented,
.....AND CHOSE, TO REJECT ISLAM, AND ITS INFLUENCE, AMONG THEM.



John Quincy Adams, was the 6th president of the USA...

Google,
"john quincy adams" islam
http://www.google.com.au/search?hl=en&q=%22john+quincy+adams%22+islam&btnG=Search&meta=





Clearly, John Quincy Adams, was a person of principle, who had a pair.

Unlike Obama, his contemporary, of today.

Part 208 - Obama and Islam
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-36Ntnpa0o






A full list of all, al Rassooli's "AhmadsQuran3" talks, available on YOUTUBE....
http://www.al-rassooli.com/ahmadsquran3/

http://www.inthenameofallah.org/





Quote:
But Muslims were noble rulers, and that didn't prevent them from allowing Christians to have churches in Muslim lands.


abu,

As per usual, your words [immediately above] are a gross misrepresentation of the TRUTH, of how people of other faiths were treated, and are treated, within Sharia jurisdictions.




Title: Re: UK Police Must Wear Scarf in Mosques
Post by Yadda on Jul 31st, 2009 at 12:28pm

Calanen wrote on Jul 31st, 2009 at 8:51am:

Quote:
computers being the inventions of the evil American and British infidels.


No, muslims invented computers. Ask Abu, I'm sure he will tell you.




LOL



Cal, you are too good!              ;D







Title: Re: UK Police Must Wear Scarf in Mosques
Post by sprintcyclist on Jul 31st, 2009 at 12:49pm

Hi skippy -
Quote:
Would you Christians find it offensive to cover your legs and remove your footwear when you entered a Buddhist temple?


No I wouldn't. if I wanted to go into a buddhist temple and they preferred that, I'ld probably do it.
But, I am not a person of authority investigating a crime in a secular society.

Title: Re: UK Police Must Wear Scarf in Mosques
Post by skippy on Jul 31st, 2009 at 12:56pm

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jul 31st, 2009 at 12:49pm:
Hi skippy -
Quote:
Would you Christians find it offensive to cover your legs and remove your footwear when you entered a Buddhist temple?


No I wouldn't. if I wanted to go into a Buddhist temple and they preferred that, I'd probably do it.
But, I am not a person of authority investigating a crime in a secular society.


Thats good sprint, I'm an atheist and I've been into lots of Buddhist temples but I always respect their desire that I remove my footwear and cover my legs.
Even if I were a police officer I would have no problem doing that.


Title: Re: UK Police Must Wear Scarf in Mosques
Post by sprintcyclist on Jul 31st, 2009 at 1:25pm

It'ld be different if it were part of my job.
Going in there as an individual voluntarily, people follow the usual custom. Or don't go there.

As an authorised person representing the secular society they have no such obligation.
Same as if they decided to wear a cross before going into a church.
It's pathetic.


Title: Re: UK Police Must Wear Scarf in Mosques
Post by soren on Jul 31st, 2009 at 2:03pm

abu_rashid wrote on Jul 31st, 2009 at 9:38am:
According to Carly Florina (former CEO of HP) without Muslim civilisation, we probably wouldn't have had the means we required to facilitate the technological revolution...

Anyway, Islam never said anything about abstaining from technologies developed by other civilisations, in fact Muhammad (pbuh) told us to seek knowledge even if from China. Muslims were always innovative improvers of others technologies...



Massive, massive nonsense, unfounded, contrary to every evidence, past and present. Simply not true.
Carly just wanted your money, fools.

You guys were using waterclocks until, what? 10 minutes ago, for suck's fake, due to some pseudo-pious misunderstanding. The key to the  story of your sorry lives, that: some pseudo-pious misunderstanding or other.

Innovation? It's simply not in you, it is incompatible with Islam. You can't even think a new thought without first checking witrh the resident mullah whose only qualification is that he knows the Koran by heart.

The only thing you keep inventing is your glorious past.


Title: Re: UK Police Must Wear Scarf in Mosques
Post by Calanen on Aug 1st, 2009 at 9:24am
If the Police have a warrant and are wearing their uniforms, or being plainclothed detectives, they should be permitted entry to *anywhere*. Not please wipe your feet, please dress with this silly hat, please wait while I'm putting my pants on.

That's what a warrant is for - kick the door in and go inside.

Mosques have been used to hide weapons, and are the integral 'base' during a jihad, not like churches at all.

If this ever happened in Australia, I'd be hitting the streets to protest.

Title: Re: UK Police Must Wear Scarf in Mosques
Post by sprintcyclist on Aug 1st, 2009 at 4:54pm

the christians should demand the coppers wear a cross and say 3 hail marys before entering any sacred ground.

And at my place they have to wear braces externally and sweep the driveway

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