Seems those devout Muslims the Taliban have been kidnapping and brainwashing children to uses as suicide bombers.  Go Islam!

Boys 'saved from being suicide bombers'

PAKISTANI security forces fighting Taliban militants in and around the Swat Valley have rescued nearly a dozen boys brainwashed into becoming suicide bombers, according to officials.

A senior security officer in North West Frontier Province said nine boys were found during raids, while two more had voluntarily surrendered, and a army commander in Swat spoke of more being handed over by their families.

"They have been brainwashed in such a way that they even call their parents infidels," Bashir Bilour, senior minister in the provincial Government, said.

Mr Bilour said the boys were shown films about oppression of Muslims in the Palestinian Territories and Indian-held Kashmir, and were given purported religious instructions to convince them that they would go to heaven if they killed enemies of Islam.

Brigadier Tahir Hameed, an officer leading military operations in Mingora, Swat's main town, said the Taliban had forced many families to let them take their boys.

He said some had since returned to their parents, who in turn handed them over to the authorities because of their brainwashed state.

The Government was working out how to rehabilitate the boys, aged between nine and 18.

The Taliban has regularly claimed responsibility for suicide attacks carried out by boys both in Pakistan and Afghanistan.

Pakistani security forces have shown Western journalists locations where children were said to have been trained, although there was no independent corroboration available.

more here

http://news.google.com.au/news?um=1&ned=au&hl=en&q=taliban+kidnap+and+brainwash+children

200 would-be child suicide bombers saved
Wed, Jul 29, 2009

ISLAMABAD - Pakistani forces have freed 200 children, aged between six and 13, who were being trained by the Pakistani Taliban to be suicide bombers.

The children - rescued from the Swat Valley, of which the military has wrested control from militants - had been brainwashed "in a way that, now, they even want to kill their parents", officials said.

They are said to be so thoroughly indoctrinated that they consider all outsiders to be infidels.

Recent reports have indicated that Pakistani Taliban chief BaitullahMehsud has been buying children by offering fat sums of money, to create an underage suicide corps.

These recruits offer various advantages to their commanders: They are easily influenced and less likely to be caught, so they would be more likely to reach their targets.

In some cases, the children are simply kidnapped.

Senior North-West Frontier Province Minister Bashir Bilour said that when some of the recently- freed children were returned to their parents, the latter were initially pleased.

But, a few days later, the parents went back with complaints that the boys were threatening to kill them.

"(The children) were told that the Pakistani Army has become an enemy of Islam, as it is fighting for Christians and Jews," said a senior official involved in the interrogation of potential suicide bombers who have been captured.

The security forces are keeping the would-be junior murderers in Mardan town, where they are to be mentally rehabilitated so that they can become normal citizens.

United States officials quoted by the Washington Times newspaper said earlier this month that Mehsud was paying US$7,000 (SGD10,000) to US$14,000 for each child recruit.

The actual price depended on how quickly a bomber was needed and how close the child is expected to get to the target, they said.

Mehsud is also said to be producing suicide bombers assembly- line style, so they can be sold or used in bartering with militants such as Afghan Taliban chief Mullah Omar.

The use of mini-murderers is "the grim reality of the Taliban Frankenstein that now threatens to overwhelm the Pakistani state", Mr Bruce Riedel, a Brookings Institution scholar who helmed a review of US-Pakistan- Afghanistan strategy, was quoted as saying by the Times.

--The Nation(Pakistan)/ANN

Sounds a bit like the 6yo. boy NATO claim they found with a suicide vest on... but of course they can't reveal where, when or what his name is... and it just conveniently happened at a time when NATO were under fire for killing too many civilians... but it's all 100% true right.

As they say, first casualty of war...

abu_rashid wrote on Jul 30^th, 2009 at 9:07pm:

Sounds a bit like the 6yo. boy NATO claim they found with a suicide vest on... but of course they can't reveal where, when or what his name is... and it just conveniently happened at a time when NATO were under fire for killing too many civilians... but it's all 100% true right. As they say, first casualty of war...

What, are you calling Senior North-West Frontier Province Minister Bashir Bilour a lying Paki bastards?

We already know you are brainwashed Ben Booby...  :D :D :D

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What, are you calling Senior North-West Frontier Province Minister Bashir Bilour a lying Paki bastards

Well, he's a loyal employee of the USA... so we couldn't expect too much truth to come out of his mouth could we? He's had the best training possible for excreting bovine faeces from his oral cavity.

abu_rashid wrote on Jul 30^th, 2009 at 9:07pm:

Sounds a bit like the 6yo. boy NATO claim they found with a suicide vest on... but of course they can't reveal where, when or what his name is... and it just conveniently happened at a time when NATO were under fire for killing too many civilians... but it's all 100% true right. As they say, first casualty of war...

It's the first casualty of peace, war, and you couldn't lie straight in bed. All war is deceit, and you are at war permanently against anything that won't submit to Islam.

I'll never submit and there are plenty more like me. The thin cloak of multiculturalism is wearing, very very thin. When it folds, and it will, you and others like you will be caught out in the open.

The six-year-old suicide bomber 'sent by Taliban to blow up Americans'

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The story of a 6-year-old Afghan boy who says he thwarted an effort by Taliban militants to trick him into being a suicide bomber provoked tears and anger at a meeting of tribal leaders.

The account from Juma Gul, a dirt-caked child who collects scrap metal for money, left American soldiers dumb-founded that a youngster could be sent on such a mission. Afghan troops crowded around the boy to call him a hero.

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Juma Gul says he thwarted an effort by Taliban militants to trick him into carrying out a suicide bombing against US troops

Though the Taliban dismissed the story as propaganda, at a time when US and NATO forces are under increasing criticism over civilian casualties, both Afghan tribal elders and US military officers said they were convinced by his dramatic account.

Juma said that sometime last month Taliban fighters forced him to wear a vest they said would spray out flowers when he touched a button. He said they told him that when he saw American soldiers, "throw your body at them."

The militants cornered Juma in a Taliban-controlled district in southern Afghanistan's Ghazni province. Their target was an impoverished youngster being raised by an older sister - but also one who proved too street-smart for their plan.

"When they first put the vest on my body I didn't know what to think, but then I felt the bomb," Juma told The Associated Press as he ate lamb and rice after being introduced to the elders at this joint US-Afghan base in Ghazni.

"After I figured out it was a bomb, I went to the Afghan soldiers for help."

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Afghan boy, Juma Gul, 6, has lunch with brother Dad Gul at a US-Afghan military command centre in Andar district, Ghazni province, west of Kabul

While Juma's story could not be independently verified, local government leaders backed his account and the US and NATO military missions said they believed his story.

Abdul Rahim Deciwal, the chief administrator for Juma's village of Athul, brought the boy and an older brother, Dad Gul, to a weekend meeting between Afghan elders and US Army Colonel Martin P Schweitzer. Schweitzer called the Taliban's attempt "a cowardly act."

As Deciwal told Juma's story, 20 Afghan elders repeatedly clicked their tongues in sadness and disapproval. When the boy and his brother were brought in, several of the turban-wearing men welled up, wiping their eyes with handkerchiefs.

"If anybody has a heart, then how can you control yourself (before) these kids?" Deciwal said in broken English.

Wallets quickly opened, and the boys were handed US$60 in American and Afghan currency - a good chunk of money in a country where teachers and police earn US$70 a month.

Afghan officials described the boys as extremely poor, and Juma said he is being raised by his sister because his father works in a bakery in Pakistan and his mother lives and does domestic work in another village.

"I think the boy is intelligent," Deciwal said. "When he comes from the enemy he found a checkpoint of the ANA (Afghan National Army), and he asked the ANA: 'Hey, can you help me? Somebody gave me this jacket and I don't know what's inside but maybe something bad.'"

Lt Col George Graff, a father of five who attended the meeting, also teared up. "Relating to them as a father and trying to fathom somebody using one of my children for that kind of a purpose, jeez, it just tore me up," said Graff, a National Guard soldier from St. George, Utah.

"The depths that these people will go to get what they want, which is power for themselves - it's just disgusting."

juma gul

Juma Gul, 6, claims he was strapped to a suicide vest by the Taliban. Now he is safe with tribal elders.

A Taliban spokesman, Qari Yousef Ahmadi, denied the militant group uses child fighters, saying it has hundreds of adults ready for suicide missions.

"We don't need to use a child," Ahmadi said by satellite phone. "It's against Islamic law, it's against humanitarian law. This is just propaganda against the Taliban."

However, a gory Taliban video that surfaced in April showed militants instructing a boy of about 12 as he beheaded an alleged traitor with a large knife. UN officials condemned the act as a war crime.

Fidgety but smiling during all the attention, Juma said he had been scared when he was surrounded by Taliban fighters. He cupped his hands together to show the size of the bomb, then ran his hands along his waist to show where it was on his body.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-464441/The-year-old-suicide-bomber-sent-Taliban-blow-Americans.html

abu_rashid wrote on Jul 30^th, 2009 at 9:41pm:

Quote: What, are you calling Senior North-West Frontier Province Minister Bashir Bilour a lying Paki bastards Well, he's a loyal employee of the USA... so we couldn't expect too much truth to come out of his mouth could we? He's had the best training possible for excreting bovine faeces from his oral cavity.

Isn't he a muslim?

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but of course they can't reveal where,

Yes it is a shame but this is classified information. I can reveal my own classified source, the DAILY FRICKING MAIL pinhead!

http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/7656/afghanboy3ap2606468x355.jpg

Abdul Rahim Deciwal, the chief administrator for Juma's village of Athul, brought the boy and an older brother, Dad Gul, to a weekend meeting between Afghan elders and US Army Colonel Martin P Schweitzer. Schweitzer called the Taliban's attempt "a cowardly act."

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-464441/The-year-old-suicide-bomber-sent-Taliban-blow-Americans.html#ixzz0Mk62kTOx


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when or what his name is...

Afghan boy, Juma Gul, 6, has lunch with brother Dad Gul at a US-Afghan military command centre in Andar district, Ghazni province, west of Kabul

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-464441/The-year-old-suicide-bomber-sent-Taliban-blow-Americans.html#ixzz0Mk6DZ2Im


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and it just conveniently happened at a time when NATO were under fire for killing too many civilians... but it's all 100% true right

Yes it is. But you are holding true to form by attempting to spin your own propaganda to deflect this.

http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/2584/afghanboyap2606468x324.jpg

At the time they refused to reveal any details, and the Guardian said they were unable to independantly verify it.

So now... one month later, they managed to pay some street kid to come and take some pretty pictures drinking mirinda... Yeh I'm fooled. The only ones exploiting young Afghan kids here are the NATO-led propagandists, so they can deflect any and all attention away from their gross misddeds against Afghan civilians.

Taliban using children as part of ‘Jihad’

* 14-year-old boy recruited by Taliban in Swat recalls recruitment
* Intelligence reports estimate more than 5,000 children trained so far

Daily Times Monitor

LAHORE: The Taliban are using children bought from poor families or recruited from madrassas to launch suicide attacks in Pakistan and Afghanistan, a report said on Wednesday.

Qari Abdullah, a Taliban commander in charge of child recruitment, told Sharmeen Obaid-Chinoy, writing for the Independent, that children as young as five and six years old were being recruited from poor families.

“The kids want to join us because they like our weapons. If you’re fighting, then God provides you with the means to win. Kids themselves are tools to achieve God’s will. And whatever comes your way, you sacrifice it,” he said.

Describing a Taliban propaganda video, Sharmeen recalled 25 shalwar kameez-clad children appearing in the video.

“They sat cross-legged on the ground rocking back and forth reciting the holy Quran. A white bandana tied across their forehead” inscribed with the Kalmah, she wrote.

She wrote the children had been filmed in an empty compound, adding that three children, armed with automatic guns, sat in one corner and kept watch.

“Their teacher, dressed in brown military fatigues walked around reading aloud from a book titled ‘Justifications for suicide bombing’. He made a list on the white board titled ‘Reasons for killing a spy’,” she added, writing that the text on the screen read “Preparing suicide bombers”.

Sharmeen recalled that in another chilling video, three boys spoke about their desire to become suicide bombers. She writes, “The video introduces Zainullah, who later blows himself up and kills six, Sadique, who blows himself up and kills 22, and Masood who kills 28.” She wrote that the video contained footage of their attacks and in the background a young child sang “if you try and find me after I have died, you will never find my whole body, you will find little pieces”.

Disturbing tale: Hazrat Ali, a 14-year-old boy from a poor farming family in Swat, was recruited by the Taliban from the local Islamic school.

“They first call us to the mosques, and preach to us. Then they take us to a madrassa and they teach us things from the Quran. They teach us to use machine gun, Kalashnikov, rocket launchers, grenades, bombs. They ask us to use them only against the infidels. Then they teach us how to do a suicide attack,” Ali said.

Ali said he longed for the day when his turn would come to be a suicide bomber. “There are thousands of us. The Taliban now have the power to defeat the army,” he added.

There are 80 million children in the country, more than a quarter of whom lived below the poverty line.

High number: According to intelligence estimates, more than 5,000 child suicide bombers between the ages of 10 and 17 have been trained by the Taliban so far. Most of them are dispatched to Afghanistan to target international troops and Afghan security forces, but some are deployed for strikes inside Pakistan. On April 6, a child suicide bomber blew himself up at a Shia mosque in the Chakwal district, killing 26 people and injuring more than 50.

It has also been reported that Tehreek-e-Taliban Pakistan chief Baitullah Mehsud was buying children as young as seven to carry out suicide bombings. The price for a child bomber is between $7,000 and $14,000, an official requesting anonymity said.

The Pakistani government has offered a reward of about $615,300 for information leading to Mehsud’s capture.

http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=2009\07\30\story_30-7-2009_pg7_14

Well, since it's in a Western propaga... err I mean independant Western media source, then it's gotta be correct. Because they'd never lie, to soothe their people's consciences for being responsible for murdering hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians in some far flung country...

Children receiving terrorist training:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6WHdWgES-Uw

Child Suicide bomber at Israeli checkpoint:

http://img104.imageshack.us/img104/7848/childisraelsuicidebombe.jpg

http://www.youtube.com/v/6WHdWgES-Uw

Muslims glorify suicide bombing? Never. They would never expose their children to such things.

http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/8127/childsuicidebomber.th.jpg
http://img54.imageshack.us/img54/1710/bombbaby.th.jpg

It's called total denial Calanen...  the brainwashed can't face reality, he'll probably blow himself up one day.  Much easier to believe the paranoid delusions of Islamism.

Grendel wrote on Jul 30^th, 2009 at 10:44pm:

It's called total denial Calanen...  the brainwashed can't face reality, he'll probably blow himself up one day.  Much easier to believe the paranoid delusions of Islamism.

It is an important lesson in the mindset of Islam:

'Never back down, ever,'

So there is no point in discussing things with muslims, they never make even the slightest concession, they will just jump from excuse to new excuse. Realise this is their mindset, and you are a long way to understanding them.

While we constantly have people 'supposedly' on our side criticising our society, they almost have no one criticising them. There are a number of reasons for this, the first is that being a muslim that criticises other muslims may lead to you being killed - the second is this idea of never take a backward step, die on the battlements, concede nothing to infidels ever.

But it's never Abu I would try to convince. I couldn't convince him at gun point. It's the lurkers watching I want to convince by slaying his arguments. Abu will never agree with anything I say, no matter how reasonable, well argued, coherent, well sourced, proven and legitimate.

Remember that, and you have learnt lesson 1 of understanding Muslims.

calanen - yes, that's been my experiences also.
The next response is to silence you. By whatever means.
That part's immaterial.

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Abu will never agree with anything I say, no matter how reasonable, well argued, coherent, well sourced, proven and legitimate.

I doubt we'll ever get a chance to test that one  ;D

Your 'arguments' consist of cutting and pasting youtube videos from here and there, of people who've been under a 60 year siege and military occupation, and then slotting it into the context of NATO propaganda, that was _clearly_ designed to deflect the heat they were copping over the civilian deaths.

You're a very amateur spokesman for abhorrent atrocities against unarmed civilians. Simply because "I have to support my country".

So given that these claims are true Abooo...  shouldn't you be off to see a psychologist?

abu_rashid wrote on Jul 30^th, 2009 at 11:36pm:

Quote: Abu will never agree with anything I say, no matter how reasonable, well argued, coherent, well sourced, proven and legitimate. I doubt we'll ever get a chance to test that one  ;D Your 'arguments' consist of cutting and pasting youtube videos from here and there, of people who've been under a 60 year siege and military occupation, and then slotting it into the context of NATO propaganda, that was _clearly_ designed to deflect the heat they were copping over the civilian deaths. You're a very amateur spokesman for abhorrent atrocities against unarmed civilians. Simply because "I have to support my country".

Well, since yours is Muslim propaga... err I mean independant Muslim media source, then it's gotta be correct. Because they'd never lie, to soothe their people's consciences for being responsible for murdering hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians in their own country...

Calanen wrote on Jul 30^th, 2009 at 11:06pm:

It is an important lesson in the mindset of Islam: 'Never back down, ever,' So there is no point in discussing things with muslims, they never make even the slightest concession, they will just jump from excuse to new excuse. Realise this is their mindset, and you are a long way to understanding them. While we constantly have people 'supposedly' on our side criticising our society, they almost have no one criticising them. There are a number of reasons for this, the first is that being a muslim that criticises other muslims may lead to you being killed - the second is this idea of never take a backward step, die on the battlements, concede nothing to infidels ever. But it's never Abu I would try to convince. I couldn't convince him at gun point. It's the lurkers watching I want to convince by slaying his arguments. Abu will never agree with anything I say, no matter how reasonable, well argued, coherent, well sourced, proven and legitimate. Remember that, and you have learnt lesson 1 of understanding Muslims.

For some reason, moslems cannot hear TRUTH.

To their mind ISLAM is correct, ONLY moslems are 'rightly guided', by ISLAM,
....and non-moslems are always 'guilty', and wrong.




Moslems are engaging in, have embraced, a philosophy of denial of reality, and TRUTH.

Part 067 - Dilemma of Muhammadan Muslims
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Dd7adRI5q4

Part 188A - Islam's Culture of DENIAL
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DSXMuJMuUH0

Part 188B - Islam's Culture of DENIAL
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FWmy1BHZTTY








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John 8:38
I speak that which I have seen with my Father: and ye do that which ye have seen with your father.
39  They answered and said unto him, Abraham is our father. Jesus saith unto them, If ye were Abraham's children, ye would do the works of Abraham.
40  But now ye seek to kill me, a man that hath told you the truth, which I have heard of God: this did not Abraham.
41  Ye do the deeds of your father. Then said they to him, We be not born of fornication; we have one Father, even God.
42  Jesus said unto them, If God were your Father, ye would love me: for I proceeded forth and came from God; neither came I of myself, but he sent me.
43  Why do ye not understand my speech? even because ye cannot hear my word.




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According to abu Christians are 'intolerant', and intolerance, is the 'fruit' of Chistianity.

Here, abu whines, about the intolerance of Christians,

"By their fruits shall ye know them... is it not?"

"UK Police Must Wear Scarf in Mosques"
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1248858366/10#10



abu,

TALKING OF FRUITS....

An 'old' news report....

18 April 2007
Up to 200 killed in Baghdad bombs
Nearly 200 people have been killed in a string of attacks in Iraq's capital, Baghdad - the worst day of violence since a US security operation began.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/6560589.stm


And today, 2009-Aug-01, a 'new' news report....

Bombs explode in multiple Shia mosques in Bagdad, Iraq, dozens [of moslems] killed.

THE RELIGION OF PEACE
http://thereligionofpeace.com/

abu,

Who's bombs exploded in those six mosques?

Moslem bombs, set by devout moslems.

Moslem bombs, killing moslems.

And yet, all the while, the Jihadists [the REAL moslems!] and their apologists, falsely accuse non-muslims, and the 'West', of being The Great Satan, and of being an enemy, which moslems must make war with, and defeat...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Great_Satan




Sat, August 26, 2006
When Muslims kill Muslims
By SALIM MANSUR
The most famous massacre in Muslim history by armed might of the state took place at Karbala...
Husayn's male companions were slaughtered by the army of Yazid, the caliph (Islam's supreme ruler), while women and children in the company of Husayn, including his wife and daughter, were abused and carried as war trophies to the capital of the expanding Arab-Islamic empire in Damascus.
......Karbala is a necessary reminder of Muslims being unequalled tormentors and killers of Muslims......
......Nor is Iraq the only place where Muslim violence against Muslims rages unabated. There is Darfur in Sudan, Somalia, Afghanistan, Kashmir, Algeria until recently, and hotspots in Iran, Bangladesh, Pakistan, Indonesia and Nigeria, Uzbekistan, Palestine, Morocco, Egypt, Saudi Arabia and Lebanon.
http://www.torontosun.com/News/Columnists/Mansur_Salim/2006/08/26/1777155.html




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Proverbs 1:22
How long, ye simple ones, will ye love simplicity? and the scorners delight in their scorning, and fools hate knowledge?
23  Turn you at my reproof: behold, I will pour out my spirit unto you, I will make known my words unto you.
....
29  For that they hated knowledge, and did not choose the fear of the LORD:
30  They would none of my counsel: they despised all my reproof.
31  Therefore shall they eat of the fruit of their own way, and be filled with their own devices.


Fruits abu, fruits.



Quote:

"Therefore shall they eat of the fruit of their own way, and be filled with their own devices."

Moslems, ISLAMISTS, cannot see their own hatred, and wicked actions, justified.

Or, perhaps in a lucid moment, they do see ???,
....but their philosophy, such as it is, will never allow them to acknowledge their 'fault'.



Moslems, innately, despise all legitimate reproof, and criticism, of themselves, of ISLAM,
....from those who do not believe as they do.

To the moslem, deceit, is seen as virtuous cunning [against their 'enemy'].

And the violence visited against those who do not believe as they do, is justified, by their own 'law'.

ISLAM, teaches all of those men who fall under its influence, how to become [actual] pathological entities, in their dealings with all of those, who do not believe as they do.

ISLAM, is a human sickness, and disease.
....infecting the soul?








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Psalms 28:3
Draw me not away with the wicked, and with the workers of iniquity, which speak peace to their neighbours, but mischief is in their hearts.


Psalms 36:1
The transgression of the wicked saith within my heart, that there is no fear of God before his eyes.
2  For he flattereth himself in his own eyes, until his iniquity be found to be hateful.
3  The words of his mouth are iniquity and deceit: he hath left off to be wise, and to do good.
4  He deviseth mischief upon his bed; he setteth himself in a way that is not good; he abhorreth not evil.


Proverbs 30:12
There is a generation that are pure in their own eyes, and yet is not washed from their filthiness.

There is a moral chasm between our Christian based [and now abandoned?] culture, and ISLAMIC culture.

And that [chasm] is the essential problem we face, in confronting ISLAM.

And we must, confront ISLAM.
....if we still want to call ourselves, define ourselves, as human beings.
....as essentially, moral creatures.


Dictionary,
moral = =
1 concerned with the principles of right and wrong behaviour and the goodness or badness of human character.
2 adhering to the code of behaviour that is considered right or acceptable.


Will we face up, to our 'burden'?




Shame vs. Guilt
Islamic cultures are shame based. Shame is a painful experience. To avoid shame you have to hide the source of shame. This means you must protect the image. Your entire self esteem and self worth depends on that image. When you are shamed you become violence. Violence is one way we humans deal with shame.
.......The Western culture, is guilt based. Westerners do not do wrong because of guilt. The Eastern culture is shame based. For us Easterners, everything is about image and how others see us.  
The opposite of guilt is innocence. If your ethos is guilt based, you have an inner police that stops you from doing wrong because doing wrong makes you feel guilty.  
If your ethos is shame based, all you care is to preserve your image. The opposite of shame is honor. You can do wrong but as long as no one sees it, your image is not tarnished and you can still be seen as an honorable person.  In a shame based culture, wrong and right have no meaning.  It is all about shame and honor.  If the stain of shame is removed, even if it means the murder of your own daughter, honor is restored.  These are two very different worldviews. Unless we understand them we will not be able to make sense of Muslims and their minds.  
Shame based cultures are primitive. All Eastern cultures are shame based even when they are not Islamic. Japanese culture, for example, is, or it has been, a shame based culture. Our Persian culture is also shame based. Proverbs like “I keep my cheeks rosy with slaps,” are telltales of a shame based culture, where image is more important than facts. This proverb says that I may be starving but my pride does not allow me to let anyone know it so I slap myself to keep my cheek rosy. Because poverty is the source of shame as long as I hide my poverty, I have preserved my honor.  
Islam is a fear based philosophy that has taken root in a shame based milieu. This is a very dangerous combination. When you combine fear and shame moral codes, you give birth to the most insidious ethos imaginable. That is Islam. Islam is an illogical doctrine that is based on fear and is defended through honor. This makes Islam more dangerous than Nazism. Muslims are not concerned about the irrationality of Islam or about good or evil. They are mostly concerned about losing face and upholding the image of Islam.  
http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/017530.php#c428023
http://www.faithfreedom.org/oped/sina70723.htm
http://www.islam-watch.org/AliSina/How-to-Beat-Jihad.htm