In particular, comments from leading influential muslims.


"No comment"

Why would they need to comment when our Fifth Column Apologists never shut up, let me paraphrase for you:

- ITS ONLY A TINY MINORITY OF MISUNDERSTANDERS OF THE TRUE PEACEFUL MESSAGE OF ISLAM;

- WELL, IT COULD BE ANYONE, TERROR KNOWS NO BOUNDARIES, LOOK AT THE IRA, TIMOTHY MCVEIGH AND ETHEL FROM THE LOCAL BOWLING CLUB;

- ITS A CULTURAL THING, NOT AN ISLAMIC THING;

- WELL, WHAT ABOUT AUSTRALIA AND THE ABORIGINES, ISRAEL, IRAQ, THE PALESTINIANS, AFGHANISTAN.

I wander if in future, signed commitment to Australian laws shouldn't be demanded, so we don't have anybody who refuses to stand up for the judge.

If citizen already, could be stripped of citizenship and if born citizen could be simply put in a cubicle that person cannot sit, that would fix it for sure!

They'd lie...  they always do...  they are allowed to lie to Non-Muslims.

Well, we have some comments. Some I like, some not so.
All credit to the coppers for organising a public meeting



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SOMALI community leaders have described the alleged terrorists arrested in Tuesday's dawn raids in Melbourne as "children". * No, they are on their 20's, so are adults* They have warned of a racial backlash * from who, for what ?* and played down fears that sections of their community have been radicalised by the extremist group al-Shabaab. One community leader, Abdalla Ahmed, who knows several of the families of the alleged terrorists, said he was "shocked" and family members were "really struggling" with the allegations. Another leader, Abdurahman Osman, president of the Somali Community in Victoria, who has warned against creeping fundamentalism,  *good on you for bringing this to light, well done * said angrily he had doubts about the arrests of "these children". Their comments came after an extraordinary meeting between federal and state police and Somali religious and community leaders in Melbourne's Coburg council chambers yesterday, attended by almost 100 members of the Somali community. After an obviously tense meeting, when Somalis criticised both the raids and media coverage, *whyever criticise hte polioce for actions against wannabe terrorists ?  *community leader Awes Amin said a young Somali girl had already been abused "physically and verbally" since the raids and called a "terrorist". "We are not all terrorists,"  * how many are terrorists ?* he said. "We are very good people, we are ... part of Australia." The longest-serving of Australia's imam, Sheik Fehmi El-Imam, said the allegations were "a serious matter" that should not be prejudged. He said Muslim leaders supported the police investigation. Senior Somali cleric Sheik Isse Musse said police had assured the community that the raids were not racially motivated. Asked whether the radical Somali group al-Shabaab had approached members of the Muslim community, he said: "We are not aware of any approach made by al-Shabaab." Describing the arrested men as "these kids", community leader Hassan Shuriye said yesterday's meeting was positive. But in an angry outburst, Mr Osman questioned the need for raids in 19 homes that netted five arrests, and alleged the police were "hiding something". He said the community was feeling "very bad". The meeting was called by Victoria Police and the Australian Federal Police to allay community concerns.

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,25890131-5013404,00.html


note, not one comment against the alleged terrorists or a single word in praise of the coppers for making themselves safe


Thanks Vic coppers and the AFP. Very well done indeed.

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note, not one comment against the alleged terrorists.

Why would they make comments against people who've barely been charged, let alone convicted.

Your type don't believe in innocent until proven guilty though, do you?

Muslim? Guilty! string 'em up from a tree whilst we circle around in our hooded robes.

You are an idiot...
You don't make a comment now...  using "unproven" as an excuse.
You don't make a comment later...  because..
1/ There's no need, the matter is settled.
2/ You try to hide the issue in silence.
3/ You try to minimise it by citing they were a crazy minority.

Oh dear but one you have so far supported through justification.

That's unfair, abu is far from an idiot.

abu -
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Why would they make comments against people who've barely been charged, let alone convicted. Your type don't believe in innocent until proven guilty though, do you? Muslim? Guilty! string 'em up from a tree whilst we circle around in our hooded robes.

I would not support those who have been charged with terrorism
Normally cops only charge people for very good reasons

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Normally cops only charge people for very good reasons

Yeh right *cough* Muhammad Haneef *cough*

abu_rashid wrote on Aug 6^th, 2009 at 3:04pm:

Quote: Normally cops only charge people for very good reasons Yeh right *cough* Muhammad Haneef *cough*

They charged him for a very good reason.

And as even you know, charging is not the same as sending to trial. And sending to trial is not the same as finding guily. And even finding guilty is not the same as cutting his head off or machine-gunning him down.i

Soren wrote on Aug 7^th, 2009 at 12:42am:

abu_rashid wrote on Aug 6th, 2009 at 3:04pm: Quote: Normally cops only charge people for very good reasons Yeh right *cough* Muhammad Haneef *cough* They charged him for a very good reason. And as even you know, charging is not the same as sending to trial. And sending to trial is not the same as finding guily. And even finding guilty is not the same as cutting his head off or machine-gunning him down.

I don't agree with that. He got his cousin's mobile phone, that was as much as they had on him. And they kept making up bs about whether or not they had other super secret information. They made a complaint to the bar association about the barrister, when the Feds released selected portions of transcript, and the barrister said, well read the lot and see it in context. They played really dirty pool.

They should have detained him, questioned him, and let him go, instead of the farcical hysterical witch hunt they went on.

good deflection abu, back to the topic.




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HATE-filled messages on a prominent Muslim website claim the alleged plot to attack Australian soldiers would have been justified. "This is the hate the western world has on us. They want to lock us up with no freedom," Mohammed said on the Aussie Muslims website. "Why is it called terrorist attack when the Aussie troops have been raping, killing innocent Muslims for years? We are intitle (sic) to defend ourselfs (sic). "In this country we can't trust nobody. The Australian Government is corrupted." One posting this week suggested having Australian soldiers as the claimed targets of the alleged Melbourne terrorist cell was appropriate.......... ............It also features a photograph of Prime Minister Kevin Rudd addressing Australian troops overseas with the caption: "Terrorist Mastermind Delivers Sermon to Impressionable Followers". Another recent posting claimed convicted Melbourne terrorist cell leader and Muslim cleric Abdul Benbrika was wrongly found guilty by Christians.......... ................The site, which claims to the home of Australian Muslims. has also urged Muslims to email complaints to the Melbourne Magistrates' Court to protest about comments made about those charged refusing to stand in court. It has provided the court's email address to make it easy for them to do so..........

http://www.news.com.au/couriermail/story/0,23739,25895183-953,00.html

this is exactly the mindset I have encountered there previously.
it's a pity the paper did not print the pryaers the muslims are offering up for their terrorist brothers.

think ASIO are monitoring these people ??

Calanen, I'm shocked, are you actually "ruling in favour" of the Muslim for once?

Well that's not right at all Calanen.
I'm sure there's an old topic here with more correct information in it.

don't loet abu divert yet again.

The weekend australian has named 3 mosques in melbourne that has allowed extremist teachings of islam in there.
i read it in a cafe

I wonder what will happen to those mosques ?
As a society we should be able to bulldoze them to the ground.
If the muslims cannot control their own people we have to

stick to the topic abu

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............They are the Huntingdale mosque, in Melbourne's southeast; the Fawkner mosque, in the north; and the now notorious 8 Black prayer centre in North Melbourne, a former pool hall closer to the gritty inner-city -- all of which provide the Somali community with a place for preaching and learning. .......

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,25899435-5006785,00.html