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Message started by DARWIN on Jan 13th, 2010 at 1:06pm

Title: Political Animal
Post by DARWIN on Jan 13th, 2010 at 1:06pm
Maybe this thread shouldn't be here in OP but I can't post it in the PA here because Aussie permanently banned me (3 different, contradictory reasons given and my request for which rule I had broken that warranted a permanent ban was never answered.)

The PA board here is dead, D E A D ! This gives me no pleasure--when I joined the site had 2-3000 posts when I got unfairly, unlawfully kicked out the site had over 22,000 posts! (Since Aussie kicked me out unlawfully and for no good reason two months ago they have added not quite 1,000 posts!)

The question now is, what to do about that board:

1. Do we give it a nice burial?

2. Do we try to breath life back into it?

3. Do we let Aussie move the board to a different website, not under FD's control and Aussie will become dictator for life

If we decide on 2. the first thing that must be done is demote Aussie back to normal member--he has told me that he would not voluntarily stand aside to allow this board to recover.

(http://www.polanimal.com.au/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=215&start=30#p7640)

If we decide against 3. then Aussie needs to be demoted back to ordinary member and that fairly quickly.

I know some people here used to be on PA, same with D&R--someone want to post this on D&R?

So, opinions anyone?

(And Aussie, do the right thing and step aside NOW!)

Title: Re: Political Animal
Post by Annie Anthrax on Jan 13th, 2010 at 1:12pm
Are there 2 boards with all of the same people posting?

Title: Re: Political Animal
Post by DARWIN on Jan 13th, 2010 at 1:15pm
No, some people here don't post on PA and some do

Oops the board I am talking about is here:

http://ozpolitic.com/polanimal/index.php

(nobody posting on there for a few days  >:(  )

Title: Re: Political Animal
Post by Annie Anthrax on Jan 13th, 2010 at 1:21pm
I had a look and saw a few people have different boards with the same posters.

Is there a point to that? (Not being facetious - it's a genuine question).

Title: Re: Political Animal
Post by Sappho on Jan 13th, 2010 at 1:32pm
So far as I can see, there is the political animal community with three forums at which they can post. Two of those PA forums are active and Freediver's PA is not.

There would be no great loss to the PA community if Freediver's PA was closed. The very few who post very little there, would move their interest to the other two fully active PA's.

There are no forum wars between the two active PA's.
The two active PA's address different yet complimentary needs.
The two active PA's have www PA addresses.
These two active PA's seem more like the original than does Freediver's under the admin of Aussie.
Aussie has made himself an enemy of most PA forumites so the chances of fixing things are highly improbable.
There are not enough remaining members to vote Aussie out, so the chances of a change in admin are highly improbable.

My views should not count because I am permanently banned by Aussie from Freediver's PA.

Title: Re: Political Animal
Post by DARWIN on Jan 13th, 2010 at 1:36pm
Well, different boards have different character or might have a format more suited to some--this forum is, to me, badly layed out with a huge number of different forums some of which are similar (Muslim faith & Extremism Exposed) and FD has garden stuff as well on here that I  find hard to navigate.

My board is based on the familiar PA structure (except I added a Welcome forum) which allows political discussion, reasonably serious discussion of non political subjects (Off Topic) and a place for quite lighthearted play where rules are quite relaxed and non-members can guest post.

Hey, why not register at my board? We even have a super secret forum just for Gurls  ;D

Title: Re: Political Animal
Post by Annie Anthrax on Jan 13th, 2010 at 1:39pm
Thank you, Sappho. This Aussie sounds like a charmer, eh?

Darwin if you link send me a link, I'll register.

Title: Re: Political Animal
Post by Annie Anthrax on Jan 13th, 2010 at 1:42pm
Nevermind, Darwin - registered.

Title: Re: Political Animal
Post by Megalodon on Jan 13th, 2010 at 2:16pm
Let this be a lesson to all those who voted for Osama Bin Aussie in the last Ozpol PA election. It was common knowledge that Arssie was an online stalker, dictator and an enemy of free speech from the last experience many PAers had with that freak at the helm. The fact that people voted him back in is nothing short of ridiculous. Freediver, get rid of the idiot. He has been a complete disaster. Already I can think of at least 6 posters who will return to your PA once Arssie is gone.

Title: Re: Political Animal
Post by Sappho on Jan 13th, 2010 at 2:22pm

Megalodon wrote on Jan 13th, 2010 at 2:16pm:
Let this be a lesson to all those who voted for Osama Bin Aussie in the last Ozpol PA election. It was common knowledge that Arssie was an online stalker, dictator and an enemy of free speech from the last experience many PAers had with that freak at the helm. The fact that people voted him back in is nothing short of ridiculous. Freediver, get rid of the idiot. He has been a complete disaster. Already I can think of at least 6 posters who will return to your PA once Arssie is gone.


Don't you post at either of the two active PA's?
Quite frankly, I see no point in three PA's.
Aussie has killed Freediver's PA, so let it now rest in peace, as does the ABC PA rest in peace, as does the Shrink's PA rest in peace.

Two alternatives offering together all that was PA, seems the way it has gone. I have no problem with that. I can let go... can you?

Title: Re: Political Animal
Post by Megalodon on Jan 13th, 2010 at 2:38pm

Sappho wrote on Jan 13th, 2010 at 2:22pm:
Don't you post at either of the two active PA's?
Quite frankly, I see no point in three PA's.
Aussie has killed Freediver's PA, so let it now rest in peace, as does the ABC PA rest in peace, as does the Shrink's PA rest in peace.

Two alternatives offering together all that was PA, seems the way it has gone. I have no problem with that. I can let go... can you?


Yes I do post at both but what's wrong with having 3 PAs? I've already let the dead PA go because Arssie made it quite clear he does not give a rat's crack about new members and only wants to stay in the past by trying to attract the old PAers to that place. That failed big time.

Title: Re: Political Animal
Post by DARWIN on Jan 13th, 2010 at 2:41pm

Sappho wrote on Jan 13th, 2010 at 1:32pm:
So far as I can see, there is the political animal community with three forums at which they can post. Two of those PA forums are active and Freediver's PA is not.

There would be no great loss to the PA community if Freediver's PA was closed. The very few who post very little there, would move their interest to the other two fully active PA's.

There are no forum wars between the two active PA's.
The two active PA's address different yet complimentary needs.
The two active PA's have www PA addresses.
These two active PA's seem more like the original than does Freediver's under the admin of Aussie.
Aussie has made himself an enemy of most PA forumites so the chances of fixing things are highly improbable.
There are not enough remaining members to vote Aussie out, so the chances of a change in admin are highly improbable.

My views should not count because I am permanently banned by Aussie from Freediver's PA.


But what about all the members of this site's PA board drifting away? Hey, I got banned too and I reckon my words count!

Title: Re: Political Animal
Post by DARWIN on Jan 13th, 2010 at 2:46pm

Megalodon wrote on Jan 13th, 2010 at 2:38pm:

Sappho wrote on Jan 13th, 2010 at 2:22pm:
Don't you post at either of the two active PA's?
Quite frankly, I see no point in three PA's.
Aussie has killed Freediver's PA, so let it now rest in peace, as does the ABC PA rest in peace, as does the Shrink's PA rest in peace.

Two alternatives offering together all that was PA, seems the way it has gone. I have no problem with that. I can let go... can you?


Yes I do post at both but what's wrong with having 3 PAs? I've already let the dead PA go because Arssie made it quite clear he does not give a rat's crack about new members and only wants to stay in the past by trying to attract the old PAers to that place. That failed big time.


That is what I meant by a decent burial--close it to posting and give links to OP and to both PAs, that way we have a shot at retaining the member's that used to post at Aussie's board just going away.

I tried to get Aussie to unban me, I tried pointing out how that board is dying and now I say,

RIP
Here lies the board that Aussie killed
Pass quietly and respectfully

If you liked that board when it was alive then go to (OP/PA1/PA2)

Title: Re: Political Animal
Post by Marvel on Jan 13th, 2010 at 2:53pm

Quote:
non-members can guest post.


That is not correct. Guest posts are moderated

Potential members and guests should also be aware that you monitor IP addresses of visitors to your site

Title: Re: Political Animal
Post by skippee on Jan 13th, 2010 at 2:56pm

Sunny_beach_babe wrote on Jan 13th, 2010 at 2:53pm:

Quote:
non-members can guest post.


That is not correct. Guest posts are moderated

Potential members and guests should also be aware that you monitor IP addresses of visitors to your site


And I wonder who "marvel" is?

Title: Re: Political Animal
Post by DARWIN on Jan 13th, 2010 at 2:58pm
Guest posts are not moderated: I should know, I am the admin. They were moderated at first, a lot of filth was removed and now they aren't moderated.

I didn't reveal any IP numbers, I don't allow members real details to be published on my board unlike some. If I sometimes look at who is guest visiting why wouldn't I?

Title: Re: Political Animal
Post by Marvel on Jan 13th, 2010 at 3:00pm

Quote:
Guest posts are not moderated: I should know, I am the admin.


Do you vet any guest post before they go online? If so, that is not guest posting.

It is heavy handed moderation

Title: Re: Political Animal
Post by DARWIN on Jan 13th, 2010 at 3:01pm

skippy. wrote on Jan 13th, 2010 at 2:56pm:

Sunny_beach_babe wrote on Jan 13th, 2010 at 2:53pm:

Quote:
non-members can guest post.


That is not correct. Guest posts are moderated

Potential members and guests should also be aware that you monitor IP addresses of visitors to your site


And I wonder who "marvel" is?

Sounds like a mystery to me, skippy!

Title: Re: Political Animal
Post by DARWIN on Jan 13th, 2010 at 3:03pm

Sunny_beach_babe wrote on Jan 13th, 2010 at 3:00pm:

Quote:
Guest posts are not moderated: I should know, I am the admin.


Do you vet any guest post before they go online? If so, that is not guest posting.

It is heavy handed moderation


ATM guest posts are NOT vetted--you made a guest post on my board, remember? Happy New Year to all?

It was heavy handed moderation at first--and it was needed as I was NOT going to allow my Sand Pit forum to be turned into a Cess Pit thank you.

Thank you for your interest in my Forum tho, very kind.

Title: Re: Political Animal
Post by Marvel on Jan 13th, 2010 at 3:05pm

skippy. wrote on Jan 13th, 2010 at 2:56pm:

Sunny_beach_babe wrote on Jan 13th, 2010 at 2:53pm:

Quote:
non-members can guest post.


That is not correct. Guest posts are moderated

Potential members and guests should also be aware that you monitor IP addresses of visitors to your site


And I wonder who "marvel" is?


A concerned netizen making sure other netizens know what they are getting into

Title: Re: Political Animal
Post by skippee on Jan 13th, 2010 at 3:06pm

Sunny_beach_babe wrote on Jan 13th, 2010 at 3:05pm:

skippy. wrote on Jan 13th, 2010 at 2:56pm:

Sunny_beach_babe wrote on Jan 13th, 2010 at 2:53pm:

Quote:
non-members can guest post.


That is not correct. Guest posts are moderated

Potential members and guests should also be aware that you monitor IP addresses of visitors to your site


And I wonder who "marvel" is?


A concerned netizen making sure other netizens know what they are getting into


Yea, thought so, one of the three not so wise monkeys.

Title: Re: Political Animal
Post by DARWIN on Jan 13th, 2010 at 3:08pm
Dopy, grumpy and sleepy?

Title: Re: Political Animal
Post by skippee on Jan 13th, 2010 at 3:10pm

Darwin wrote on Jan 13th, 2010 at 3:08pm:
Dopy, grumpy and sleepy?


Dopey, sees no evil
Grumpy speaks no evil
sleepy, when he's not asleep, hears no evil.

Title: Re: Political Animal
Post by DARWIN on Jan 13th, 2010 at 3:14pm
A concerned netizen from a dump where:

attacks on members families are allowed to stand

artwork stolen from my website is allowed to stay and the admin sees no problem in members there taunting owners of said artworks and any copyright notice placed on artwork owner's website.

Peoples personal details can be published and are often left to stand

The Admin will take over inactive accounts and steal the identity of said accounts

Yup, a concerned netizen, concerned other netizens will see him for the total tool and thief that he is.

Title: Re: Political Animal
Post by DARWIN on Jan 13th, 2010 at 5:17pm
Hmmm because it is such a dump if this PA is discontinued then only here and www.polanimal.com.au should be given as alternative places to post.

After Aussie kicked me out for some private reason of his own and I started my board and it took off I was thinking two friendly boards would offer more than twice the fun. Alas, too late for that now.

Title: Re: Political Animal
Post by Marvel on Jan 13th, 2010 at 5:39pm
As long as posters know that if they visit the above website that their IP will be subject to scrutiny by yourself and guest posting is not really guest posting

Title: Re: Political Animal
Post by DARWIN on Jan 13th, 2010 at 7:18pm
Hmmm so Aussie is openly declaring he will move the board. Probably and for once without a Petition, a Petition doomed to fail because Aussie banned members, discouraged other members and members just gave up on the board.

Call for a Petition Aussie! You did for everything else, like increasing the time you had in which to edit your post to more than 5 minutes!

Title: Re: Political Animal
Post by helian on Jan 13th, 2010 at 8:59pm
Two pages of 'ice head use head'...

Proof positive that you can't save people from themselves.

Title: Re: Political Animal
Post by DARWIN on Jan 13th, 2010 at 9:07pm
Aussie is spending all his time at Deepthought's joint. Two guesses as to where Aussie wants to move that board?

Title: Re: Political Animal
Post by helian on Jan 13th, 2010 at 9:22pm

Darwin wrote on Jan 13th, 2010 at 9:07pm:
Aussie is spending all his time at Deepthought's joint. Two guesses as to where Aussie wants to move that board?

Two guesses as to who gives a sh!t.

Title: Re: Political Animal
Post by DARWIN on Jan 13th, 2010 at 9:30pm
I give a poo--for the members the idiot drove off in various ways rather than growing the smacking board!

Title: Re: Political Animal
Post by Sappho on Jan 13th, 2010 at 9:37pm

NorthOfNorth wrote on Jan 13th, 2010 at 9:22pm:

Darwin wrote on Jan 13th, 2010 at 9:07pm:
Aussie is spending all his time at Deepthought's joint. Two guesses as to where Aussie wants to move that board?

Two guesses as to who gives a sh!t.


Exactly, so let's kill it! Murder is sublime when justified.  ;D

Title: Re: Political Animal
Post by DARWIN on Jan 13th, 2010 at 9:41pm
hahahah meh

I want to see if something can be saved from the wreck

Title: Re: Political Animal
Post by Sappho on Jan 13th, 2010 at 9:43pm

Darwin wrote on Jan 13th, 2010 at 9:41pm:
hahahah meh

I want to see if something can be saved from the wreck


We already have what can be saved. Your PA and DT's PA. Both are popular amongst the political animals.

Title: Re: Political Animal
Post by helian on Jan 13th, 2010 at 9:47pm

Darwin wrote on Jan 13th, 2010 at 9:30pm:
I give a poo--for the members the idiot drove off in various ways rather than growing the smacking board!

Why? Surely you've got a real 3-D life.

Title: Re: Political Animal
Post by JaeMi on Jan 13th, 2010 at 9:50pm
I just went to PA err (http://www.polanimal.com/polanimal/). It doesn't seem like it's moderated at all. I just read two topics and there was this person who did nothing but attack other members and politicians for the sake of it.

Title: Re: Political Animal
Post by DARWIN on Jan 13th, 2010 at 9:51pm
What does my 3D life have to do with anything?

Yup on that board they will post personal details and usually those are left standing: if you are a rabid righty you are easonably safe.

Title: Re: Political Animal
Post by Sappho on Jan 13th, 2010 at 9:55pm

Hlysnan wrote on Jan 13th, 2010 at 9:50pm:
I just went to PA err (http://www.polanimal.com/polanimal/). It doesn't seem like it's moderated at all. I just read two topics and there was this person who did nothing but attack other members and politicians for the sake of it.


Voltaire is alive and well on that PA.

Title: Re: Political Animal
Post by Sappho on Jan 13th, 2010 at 9:59pm

Darwin wrote on Jan 13th, 2010 at 9:51pm:
What does my 3D life have to do with anything?

Yup on that board they will post personal details and usually those are left standing: if you are a rabid righty you are easonably safe.


Oh Monk... do you really want to slander another's forum on this forum, or, would you prefer that the two forums continue as they have been?

Having my own board on DT's (Dangerous Minds) makes this personal you see.

Oh... and I'm very good at flaming... didn't you know? Although I prefer it if we just left things unsaid... and you?

Title: Re: Political Animal
Post by Megalodon on Jan 13th, 2010 at 10:45pm

Hlysnan wrote on Jan 13th, 2010 at 9:50pm:
It doesn't seem like it's moderated at all. I just read two topics and there was this person who did nothing but attack other members and politicians for the sake of it.


I bet it was me.  ;D

Title: Re: Political Animal
Post by DARWIN on Jan 14th, 2010 at 6:20am
Well, Sappho then tell Marvel(ous DT) to stop lying about my board eh?

The point is, I was hoping that the people that are drifting away from Aussie's dead board could be told there was a live board--they could join: here, my board or Marvel's slum.

(BTW, what I said is true the Jovial Monk nick and avatar is being used by DT and he posts about owning the brewshop Jovial Monk and defames me and yes my photos etc are all over that board! A bit of interforum wars has always been part of PA.)

Title: Re: Political Animal
Post by Marvel on Jan 14th, 2010 at 9:02am
I am no DT
I am not lying about your board
Forum wars was never part of the original PA

Why do you insist that you know what PA is about when you were never even an original inhabitant?

It makes you look silly

Title: Re: Political Animal
Post by DARWIN on Jan 14th, 2010 at 11:48am
bwahahaha OK DT whatever you say  :D

Title: Re: Political Animal
Post by Aussie on Jan 14th, 2010 at 5:01pm
Darwin/Monk, all you give a toss about is promoting yourself, and your Board which is really a personal blog with some cheering from the sidelines by The Wog and annie.

What you envy and what you will never get, try as you might using the PA Tiger, and fraudulently calling your Forum the real PA is ...... Political Animal, and it's seven year history.

I concede that currently, it is not experiencing anything like its finest hour.  But, I am quietly doing something about that, and when things are organised and relevant people (they know who they are) are consulted, and an agreement reached, watch!

;D

Title: Re: Political Animal
Post by DARWIN on Jan 14th, 2010 at 5:11pm
You are dreaming. You consult???? muwahahahahahaha

The only way your board could be saved is by unbanning me and you won't do that. In the meantime, members gradually fade away never to return.

And what the real PA is a spirit, a spirit you don't understand and have killed. That board you killed only goes back a fairly short way, there are no 7 years history there and as I have said 1000 times before, I am not interested in the past only the present and future.

Even IF Aussie could affect a partial revival his highandedness, inability to learn, complete failure to consult and silly ideas would only see that board die a second time.

Quit as Admin, Aussie. Do it today. Please.

Title: Re: Political Animal
Post by DARWIN on Jan 14th, 2010 at 5:28pm
Shorter version: Aussie thinks he is Jesus and his board Lazarus!

;D :D ;D :D ;D

Title: Re: Political Animal
Post by Aussie on Jan 14th, 2010 at 7:07pm

Darwin wrote on Jan 14th, 2010 at 5:28pm:
Shorter version: Aussie thinks he is Jesus and his board Lazarus!

;D :D ;D :D ;D


Oh, the irony.  (BTW, It is at the feet of Darwin/Monk/HBS Guy that responsibility for DT's Forum War can be placed.  Darwin etc posted personal details about DT, so ..... DT (being quite childish in a non eye for eye sense) posted a great deal of personal information about the two Moderators at PA.  One of the reasons I banned Darwin etc etc was his complete inability not to merge his poo fight with DT into the PA domain.)


Quote:
By Darwin/Monk/HBS Guy............"The only way your board could be saved is by unbanning me..."


Much shorter version:

Who ......."thinks he is Jesus.....?"

No more here from me on this matter.  Readers simply need to know that Darwin/Monk's/HBS Guy's Forum is a poor copy (even using the PA Tiger) of the real and historic Political Animal.

Cheers!

Title: Re: Political Animal
Post by DARWIN on Jan 14th, 2010 at 7:16pm
You see what I mean folks? Aussie knows! there is no need for the idiot to consult because he knows!

And I did not, ever, on the board you killed disclose deepthunk's personal details, unless his surname is Sheepthought, not likely I would have thought. And Deepthunk had closed his forum yawns months before I made the mistake of working to get Aussie elected as Admin (I got him three critical votes but even as I was doing that Aussie was probably working on ways to ban me.

I repeat: Unless Deepthunk's surname was Sheepthought I did NOT disclose any personal information

And, yes, I am the one could revive that board: when I joined it had 2000 posts, when I left it had 22000-odd. Since the idiot banned me, for a reason he has never really said, they have barely put on a thousand posts--in two months! It may be egotistical of me to say it but it is also the truth! When I joined the only active poster was White Indigene posting five pages of gibberish under the title of "Infrastructure Watch" (go and have a look, http://www.ozpolitic.com/polanimal go to Political, and look at the very earliest page or three and you will see it.) It wasn't Aussie that recued Political Animal from that it was ME!

Oh, and as I have already said, the board Aussie killed is not the original PA either, not that I give a fig for long-past history, the future interests me more.

Freediver, for god's sake, get someone, anyone, to take over from Aussie but please do it NOW!

Title: Re: Political Animal
Post by freediver on Jan 14th, 2010 at 7:25pm
I think I should just wait until he leaves. Given that he has driven off most of the members, he will probably want to do it soon, otherwise he will find it more and more difficult to blame someone else for everyone leaving.

Title: Re: Political Animal
Post by DARWIN on Jan 14th, 2010 at 7:36pm
You never listen either, do you Freediver?

Aussie won't leave but he may move the board to a different location.

Aussie's board is D*E*A*D* with one post since last Saturday (except for posts related to your intervention.

And members of that board are leaving all the time, nev er to return.

Aussie has lied--come to my board and talk to Annie there how Aussie used her.

Aussie has lied, Aussie has been highhanded--DO something!

Title: Re: Political Animal
Post by Marvel on Jan 14th, 2010 at 7:43pm

Quote:
when I joined it had 2000 posts, when I left it had 22000-odd.


If there was ever a case of quantity over quality this would be it.

Title: Re: Political Animal
Post by freediver on Jan 14th, 2010 at 7:51pm
I'm pretty sure I remember JM posting Deepthought's name everywhere.

Title: Re: Political Animal
Post by DARWIN on Jan 14th, 2010 at 7:59pm
Nope.

Sheepthought is what I used.

Title: Re: Political Animal
Post by DARWIN on Jan 14th, 2010 at 8:00pm
Ask Hebe and boxy--if they are still around

Title: Re: Political Animal
Post by DARWIN on Jan 14th, 2010 at 8:01pm
Anyway, what are we to do with the board Aussie killed?

Unbanning me would be a good start!

Title: Re: Political Animal
Post by DARWIN on Jan 14th, 2010 at 8:06pm
You CAN check my comment about me rescuing that board from terminal boredom and gibberish from white Indigene.

Banning me was a stupid move taken with some ulterior motive in mind.

Most of the thousand or so posts made after Aussie shafted me who had worked hardest for his election--there was no problem with forum wars or personal disclosure of information then! Ask AG about the campaign!--were protests about that action, about the stupid rearrangement of forums (let Annie tell you how Aussie used her) and all the other bad ideas and stuffups by Aussie. the board started dying two months ago when I was banned.

Title: Re: Political Animal
Post by DARWIN on Jan 14th, 2010 at 8:13pm
Hmmmm http://www.polanimal.com.au/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=408

Deepthunk allowing personal information to be disclosed at his board and doing hardly anything about it. You will also find a Jovial Monk member complete with Monk avatar and my real name splashed about and defamed.

Maybe FD remembers MY personal details splashed all over Deepthunk's board rather than the other way around?

Title: Re: Political Animal
Post by Marvel on Jan 14th, 2010 at 8:19pm

Sunny_beach_babe wrote on Jan 14th, 2010 at 7:43pm:

Quote:
when I joined it had 2000 posts, when I left it had 22000-odd.


If there was ever a case of quantity over quality this would be it.


Look! DARWIN added 5 more posts to your forum Freediver.

An excellent contribution

Title: Re: Political Animal
Post by DARWIN on Jan 14th, 2010 at 8:29pm
http://www.ozpolitic.com/polanimal/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=145&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&start=30

There you go, five pages of gibberish called "Infrastructure Watch"

You might consider moving up to phpbb3 Freediver

Title: Re: Political Animal
Post by Marvel on Jan 14th, 2010 at 8:37pm
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Title: Re: Political Animal
Post by DARWIN on Jan 14th, 2010 at 8:39pm
Hey Aussie!

You weren't worried about so-called privacy invasions when I was working on your election campaign was there. There were no Forum Yawns anymore either, were there? None of that, we plotted and campaigned and I got four votes for you (incl my own)

Care to contradict?

Title: Re: Political Animal
Post by DARWIN on Jan 14th, 2010 at 8:43pm
Speak up, Aussie! Was personal details/Forum wars a concern back then?

Here is another question: did you tell Annie that your changes would be bitterly resented or did you let her tel you how to make the changes, then left her to face the music while you made yourself scarce for a day, hmm?

I can tell you and everyone that people did take their frustrations out on Annie BECAUSE YOU DIDN'T DARE SHOW YOUR FACE YOU COWARD and Annie was very unhappy with all the opprobrium and outright hostility & hate thrown her way. In our Admin forum Annie told me everything that happened and how unhappy HELPING YOU made her.

You use people, you never listen, you are NOT fit to Admin that board lying in its death throes you USER and COWARD!

Title: Re: Political Animal
Post by Aussie on Jan 14th, 2010 at 8:46pm
Oh, what the hell....... I can't resist.


Quote:
Since the idiot banned me, for a reason he has never really said.....


But.....but.....but.....haven't you been bleating all over the www that I have given three different reasons for my ban of you?

No matter Darwin/Monk/HBS Guy, you are doing a far better job on yourself here than I could ever do.  It makes the VB taste much better knowing that fd is now getting a better appreciation of your crap.  I'd love him to post your PMs to him, just like you posted my recent PMs to you, in open.

Ho, ho, ho and a bottle of Rum!

8-)

Title: Re: Political Animal
Post by DARWIN on Jan 14th, 2010 at 8:52pm
What a dolt you are.

Three different and contradictory reasons, all false. You are a liar Aussie, apart from all your other failings.

You bagged me and my Forum in Deepthunk's slum for making a lot of the posts there. It is called priming the pump. Something YOU have not done in your forum, something you cannot be bothered doing, heh you got PLANS, plans that, some time in the future, always in the future, will miraculously revive your forum.

It doesn't work that way. You try and keep your forum members happy (BOY did you fail that one!) you make some interesting posts to stimulate discussion and you do all the little, boring unglamorous things that build up a forum.

You just banned your most prolific poster and went on a holiday.

Title: Re: Political Animal
Post by DARWIN on Jan 14th, 2010 at 8:58pm
Ummm this will give you a very good idea of the dunderheaded way Aussie 'runs' his board. One member suggested (why I don't know, stupid idea) that members' time to edit a post be limited. So dunderhead here puts a FIVE MINUTE limit on editing your posts! Five minutes! Ten minutes later you see a typo--can't edit your post to fix it! So unhappiness is expressed in no uncertain manner!

Does Aussie consult? Not our Dunderhead! Tells them to start a petition, a petition he knoows will fail BECAUSE DUNDERHEAD HAS BANNED OR DRIVEN OFF ENOUGH MEMBERS SO THAT NO PETITION CAN SUCCEED.

Gawd, all he had to ask was "how long would be a good time?" but not our Dunderhead! You wonder why the board is dead as a dodo? You think Aussie should be left to oversee the putrefaction??????

Title: Re: Political Animal
Post by Aussie on Jan 14th, 2010 at 9:02pm
Is that all?  Got some more Jesus?

Title: Re: Political Animal
Post by DARWIN on Jan 14th, 2010 at 9:02pm
Aussie, get out of the way and let someone either revive the board or bury it.

Title: Re: Political Animal
Post by DARWIN on Jan 14th, 2010 at 9:16pm
That all?

You permanently ban your best poster, one who got you elected

You use Annie to have the Forums changed around, then run away, leaving Annie to face the music, the act of a total coward and turd

You then ban 6 other members

You do nothing to keep discussion going, spending your time at Deepthunk's place bignoting yourself as Admin of PA

You pull other crap, getting members to start hopeless Petitions, like the change to the editing

You never bother to keep political etc discussion going and discussion soon spluttered to a halt

You treated Hebe like s h i t too

That all? It is enough i think?

Title: Re: Political Animal
Post by DARWIN on Jan 14th, 2010 at 9:26pm
Hmmm and for Marvel(ous DT)

Aussie guest posted on my board--a facility he does not offer me--without me even knowing about it for awhile let alone have to approve it. So Marvel is another liar!

Title: Re: Political Animal
Post by freediver on Jan 14th, 2010 at 9:32pm

Quote:
Most of the thousand or so posts made after Aussie shafted me who had worked hardest for his election--there was no problem with forum wars or personal disclosure of information then!


So you did disclose?

Title: Re: Political Animal
Post by DARWIN on Jan 14th, 2010 at 9:38pm
There was no disclosure before Aussie's election campaign, there was no disclosure of personal details during Aussie's election campaign and there was none after.

How many more times do I have to say it, Freediver? I told you this in PMs more than once.

Title: Re: Political Animal
Post by Aussie on Jan 14th, 2010 at 9:54pm
Oooooo, I can't resist again!!


Post the PMs Darwin/Monk/Hbs Guy.


.....umm....and while you are at it......


Quote:
You then ban 6 other members


Name them, you naughty little fibber.

:D

Title: Re: Political Animal
Post by DARWIN on Jan 14th, 2010 at 10:00pm
What PMs, Dunderheaded Forum killer?

Who did you ban? Hmmmm

JM
Sapho
Annie
Ethnic
Curry Muncher
Jubial Priest
Deepthunk

That is 7

Also, you tried to drive away Senexx and Magic Monkey.

That is 9

Title: Re: Political Animal
Post by DARWIN on Jan 14th, 2010 at 10:05pm
Now you answer my question:

Why did you ban me, the real reason I mean

When/where did you decide to move that board

Why have you let, even accelerated the decline of your Forum

What real and realistic plan do you have to revive the corpse?

Title: Re: Political Animal
Post by Aussie on Jan 14th, 2010 at 10:27pm

Darwin wrote on Jan 14th, 2010 at 10:00pm:
What PMs, Dunderheaded Forum killer?

Who did you ban? Hmmmm

JM
Sapho
Annie
Ethnic
Curry Muncher
Jubial Priest
Deepthunk

That is 7


You naughty fibber.  Jubial Priest is still a Member, Curry Muncher is still a Member.  annie asked to have her Membership deleted, as did Ethnic/Celetina, but annie is still a Member, as is Ethnic/Celetina.

So, your list of seven is now reduced to three, you naughty little fibber.

Ho, ho, ho and a bottle of Rum!

I am having a good week.  I think I'll re-admit deepthought soon just to piss you off Monk.  I reckon he will see the ironic humour, even though he may be too afraid to post at PA.

:)


Title: Re: Political Animal
Post by Marvel on Jan 14th, 2010 at 10:34pm

Quote:
You naughty fibber.  Jubial Priest is still a Member, Curry Muncher is still a Member.  annie asked to have her Membership deleted, as did Ethnic/Celetina, but annie is still a Member, as is Ethnic/Celetina.


Someone is a naughty fibber
I think it might be you Aussie

Title: Re: Political Animal
Post by Aussie on Jan 14th, 2010 at 10:48pm
Go, check the Member list.  Or is that a problem?

Title: Re: Political Animal
Post by Megalodon on Jan 14th, 2010 at 10:53pm

Aussie wrote on Jan 14th, 2010 at 10:48pm:
Go, check the Member list.  Or is that a problem?


You are really desperate to say "oh they're banned but they're still members".

Title: Re: Political Animal
Post by Marvel on Jan 14th, 2010 at 10:58pm

Quote:
You naughty fibber.  Jubial Priest is still a Member, Curry Muncher is still a Member.  annie asked to have her Membership deleted, as did Ethnic/Celetina, but annie is still a Member, as is Ethnic/Celetina.


So you are the fibber?

DARWIN mentioned the banned posters, not who are members. You sneaky little grub.

I suspect you already knew that but please confirm.

Title: Re: Political Animal
Post by Aussie on Jan 14th, 2010 at 10:59pm
Jubial Priest is still a Member, Curry Muncher is still a Member.  annie is still a Member, Ethic/Celetina is still a Member.


Title: Re: Political Animal
Post by Marvel on Jan 14th, 2010 at 11:00pm

Quote:
DARWIN mentioned the banned posters, not who are members. You sneaky little grub.

I suspect you already knew that but please confirm.


Your confirmation?

Title: Re: Political Animal
Post by Aussie on Jan 14th, 2010 at 11:04pm

Sunny_beach_babe wrote on Jan 14th, 2010 at 11:00pm:

Quote:
DARWIN mentioned the banned posters, not who are members. You sneaky little grub.

I suspect you already knew that but please confirm.


Your confirmation?


Talking to yourself is not a good look.

Title: Re: Political Animal
Post by Marvel on Jan 14th, 2010 at 11:13pm

Quote:
Talking to yourself is not a good look.


Should we take that as admission of guilt?
Are you a fibber as pertains to the answer of the original question, rather than the one you have invented?

(Freediver, I sincerely hope you are taking note of the obfuscation)

Title: Re: Political Animal
Post by DARWIN on Jan 15th, 2010 at 5:48am
You are contradicting yourself, old dunderhead.

You told FD Annie's vote for new Admin couldn't be counted as she had been banned. The rest of your post is a lie.

*** FD, if you don't remember that it is still in the board you are letting down very badly***

Admit whoever you like, that is not my concern. My concern is the members drifting away from your dead board. I have made that perfectly plain in all of this thread and neither you nor anyone else can deny that.

So, how about answering my questions, dunderhead?

Title: Re: Political Animal
Post by DARWIN on Jan 15th, 2010 at 5:50am
Looks like DT has finally cottoned on to my main concern here--to stop even more members drifting away and keep them either in the board that is now dead or have them join his slum or my Forum.

Title: Re: Political Animal
Post by DARWIN on Jan 15th, 2010 at 6:04am
I will say it here.

I have been asking FD for weeks now, as as the board Aussie is Admin of went into a steep decline and nobody there was happy that a new election for Admin was needed and that FD should act by suspending Aussie and holding such election with whoever got the most votes declared the new Admin, then Aussie could be unsuspended.

Aussie has to be suspended during the election--tho could be a candidate--because he would otherwise make the election unworkable.

FD has sat on his hands, insisting on Petitions and stuff that go nowhere because there aren't enough members left to vote! This has been happening for weeks! And all the time Aussie's board died and members drifted away never to return. Maybe FD should now just close the board.

Title: Re: Political Animal
Post by DARWIN on Jan 15th, 2010 at 6:30am
Oh, and I will just make it absolutely clear here and now:

I am NOT seeking election as Admin on Aussie's board, the former PA board.

I have my own Forum now with some of the original posters from Aussie's board and, I hope, some of the spirit that made a board Political Animal and no way Hose could I Admin two boards. That is not what this thread is all about.

Title: Re: Political Animal
Post by DARWIN on Jan 15th, 2010 at 7:05am
Oh, hahaha, about the still members s h i t  aussie, here is what Annie found when she checked her membership status this morning:


Quote:
Hahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!  Nope!

[quote]
Information

You have been permanently banned from this board.

Please contact the Board Administrator for more information.

Reason given for ban: Asked for account to be deleted

A ban has been issued on your username.

Can't stop laughing, there is something so ridiculous about that notice that it just makes me burst out laughing ..  

:yahoo  :giggle  :smack  :ha[/quote]

Doesn't sound like a member to me, eh?

Title: Re: Political Animal
Post by DARWIN on Jan 15th, 2010 at 7:08am
You know, Anny and Celly DID ask to have their accounts deleted. . .and Aussie just went ahead and did it.

No building bridges, no saying "Oh, let us wait a month, see how you feel then" etc. Nope, the Dunderhead just went and banned them!

Title: Re: Political Animal
Post by DARWIN on Jan 15th, 2010 at 7:20am
His behavior drove Left of Centre of his board. that is ten people gone from there. Frogen doesn't post there anymore, hasn't for a week and Frogen was the one who tried--wasn't Aussie that tried--to keep things going after the idiot banned me.

That's 11 Aussie!

In fact, the only person who has made one general post on Aussie's board is Hebe! FD, just make Hebe Admin and you won't have me on your back anymore!

Title: Re: Political Animal
Post by DARWIN on Jan 15th, 2010 at 7:51am
Hmmmm after Aussie got Annie to join his board he asked her to post a few news topics everyday, like she does on fbd (http://www.fbd-australia.com/) where she is a admin under he nick "Nanham"

Posting discussion-starting posts is the job of the Admin, but you couldn't be stuffed doing it, could you Aussie? Not then, not now.

Title: Re: Political Animal
Post by skippee on Jan 15th, 2010 at 8:42am
Wow, that marvel sounds familiar, I'll have to have some deepthought about who it is. ::)

Title: Re: Political Animal
Post by DARWIN on Jan 15th, 2010 at 8:51am
I think DT is Marvelous

Title: Re: Political Animal
Post by skippee on Jan 15th, 2010 at 9:12am

Darwin wrote on Jan 15th, 2010 at 8:51am:
I think DT is Marvelous


Absolutely marvelous. ;D

Title: Re: Political Animal
Post by Marvel on Jan 15th, 2010 at 10:00am
Is everyone around here as paranoid as you two?

Title: Re: Political Animal
Post by DARWIN on Jan 15th, 2010 at 10:07am
Paranoid? We just recognise your flatulent writing style, is all.

Title: Re: Political Animal
Post by skippee on Jan 15th, 2010 at 10:10am

Sunny_beach_babe wrote on Jan 15th, 2010 at 10:00am:
Is everyone around here as paranoid as you two?


When you've been "chums" as long as us you stick out like dogs balls, oh deeply thinker.

Title: Re: Political Animal
Post by Marvel on Jan 15th, 2010 at 10:11am
Your trumpeting of your own horn in this thread is testament to the level of insight of others you have

Title: Re: Political Animal
Post by skippee on Jan 15th, 2010 at 10:16am

Sunny_beach_babe wrote on Jan 15th, 2010 at 10:11am:
Your trumpeting of your own horn in this thread is testament to the level of insight of others you have


God, it must be hard switching between forums and nicks as quick as you are ATM.

Title: Re: Political Animal
Post by Marvel on Jan 15th, 2010 at 10:19am
As easy as hacking your account?

Title: Re: Political Animal
Post by skippee on Jan 15th, 2010 at 10:20am
i knew you'd have a short stay with us, marvel/deepy/IQ.

Title: Re: Political Animal
Post by skippee on Jan 15th, 2010 at 10:21am

Sunny_beach_babe wrote on Jan 15th, 2010 at 10:19am:
As easy as hacking your account?


Just for mod proof, in case you get all scared and delete it.

Title: Re: Political Animal
Post by Marvel on Jan 15th, 2010 at 10:21am
I am not any of those who you think I am, so why would I be going anywhere?

Title: Re: Political Animal
Post by skippee on Jan 15th, 2010 at 10:24am

Sunny_beach_babe wrote on Jan 15th, 2010 at 10:21am:
I am not any of those who you think I am, so why would I be going anywhere?

Well you're at least marval old son, you're signed in as him,troll.

Title: Re: Political Animal
Post by skippee on Jan 15th, 2010 at 10:25am

Sunny_beach_babe wrote on Jan 15th, 2010 at 10:21am:
I am not any of those who you think I am, so why would I be going anywhere?


Let me guess, useing a proxy to troll here are we?

Title: Re: Political Animal
Post by DARWIN on Jan 15th, 2010 at 11:51am

Darwin wrote on Jan 15th, 2010 at 5:48am:
You are contradicting yourself, old dunderhead.

You told FD Annie's vote for new Admin couldn't be counted as she had been banned. The rest of your post is a lie.

*** FD, if you don't remember that it is still in the board you are letting down very badly***

Admit whoever you like, that is not my concern. My concern is the members drifting away from your dead board. I have made that perfectly plain in all of this thread and neither you nor anyone else can deny that.

So, how about answering my questions, dunderhead?

Just bringing this to the front again, so Mugaussie can't pretend to have not seen it.

I am trying to save something out of the wreck of that board, Aussie just wants to stay Admin of that dead board. Maybe he will resurrect it at Easter?   :D

Title: Re: Political Animal
Post by DARWIN on Jan 15th, 2010 at 6:12pm
It is too smacking late to save anything out of the shambles.

Good one Aussie, good one FD, useless the pair of you.

Title: Re: Political Animal
Post by Marvel on Jan 15th, 2010 at 6:52pm
Obsess much?

Title: Re: Political Animal
Post by soren on Jan 15th, 2010 at 9:50pm

Sunny_beach_babe wrote on Jan 15th, 2010 at 6:52pm:
Obsess much?


Give him time. He'll evolve.

Title: Re: Political Animal
Post by freediver on Jan 17th, 2010 at 11:38am
You kept dropping his name in your posts. We had to go round and clean up after you.

Title: Re: Political Animal
Post by DARWIN on Jan 20th, 2010 at 9:46am
Hmmm that is not true FD because I did not use DT's full name anywhere on this site. I think it is a convenient excuse for not doing anything re the PA board on this site.

One poster did drop the full name and that was removed instantly.

Title: Re: Political Animal
Post by Aussie on Jan 20th, 2010 at 4:11pm

Quote:
Hmmm that is not true FD because I did not use DT's full name anywhere on this site.


You did everywhere else, so why not here?

:D

Title: Re: Political Animal
Post by freediver on Jan 20th, 2010 at 6:15pm

Quote:
I did not use DT's full name anywhere on this site.


So you used some of his names?

Title: Re: Political Animal
Post by DARWIN on Jan 21st, 2010 at 1:51pm
The inference I draw from your last post is that the one before it, about having to clean Deepshit's real name from all over the former PA board here, was a complete smacking lie. Is that correct FD?

I had a story that supposedly Sheepthought's Mum was telling. Is Deepshit's last name Sheepthought you think? See, even Dunderhead admitted no real name was published.

By contrast, my full name, incl both christian names, is still somewhere on Deepshit's Forum. Skippy's name is still up and Aussie's real name had also been ferreted out and published there. Stay away from that Forum, it is NOT safe.

Title: Re: Political Animal
Post by freediver on Jan 21st, 2010 at 6:44pm
I want to know what you posted on polanimal. I don't really care what happened elsewhere.

No it was not a lie. I thought maybe you just posted his first name only, and thought that that didn't count as personal info.

Title: Re: Political Animal
Post by DARWIN on Jan 21st, 2010 at 7:03pm
[EDITED] Sheepthought is the name I used, not the one I PMd to you.

Pretty meaningless, eh?

Someone else posted his full name, once and that got deleted very quick.


So, what rule did I break to warrant a PERMANENT banning from the former PA board here? You are big on constitutions, tell me what I did!

And the other six people that got permanently banned? Any rule they broke, hmm?

Title: Re: Political Animal
Post by freediver on Jan 21st, 2010 at 7:07pm
I see. It's more that you just don't get it. You still don't. Do not post any personal information. That includes first names, last names, middle names, phone numbers, locations etc. Revealing it a bit at a time is not some kind of 'get out of jail free' card. Use your common sense.

Title: Re: Political Animal
Post by Aussie on Jan 21st, 2010 at 7:51pm

Quote:
And the other six people that got permanently banned?


More lies.

Title: Re: Political Animal
Post by DARWIN on Jan 21st, 2010 at 7:53pm
Wasn't revealing it a bit at a time.

Now, the rules that myself and six others broke that warranted permanent banning, given that the Sheepthought's Mum's story had been killed months earlier, hmmm?

Title: Re: Political Animal
Post by freediver on Jan 21st, 2010 at 8:44pm
Do you understand the thing about personal info now? I would hate for Aussie to let you back in, only to discover that you didn't understand the lesson.

Title: Re: Political Animal
Post by Marvel on Jan 21st, 2010 at 9:04pm
He has not and will not learn, he even hands out IP address of visitors to his forum,,not someone who deserves trust

Not too mention at his forum he is the nickname police,,yet king of it himself
[quote="HBSguy"]I told him not to use "Krudd"[/quote]

Quite disturbing

Title: Re: Political Animal
Post by sprintcyclist on Jan 21st, 2010 at 10:29pm

marvel - yes, he's a typical lefty. Ok at dishing out his own comments, but anything coming back is verboten

Title: Re: Political Animal
Post by Marvel on Jan 21st, 2010 at 10:48pm

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jan 21st, 2010 at 10:29pm:
marvel - yes, he's a typical lefty. Ok at dishing out his own comments, but anything coming back is verboten


Yes,,,then houses himself in his own fortress where he can lie amd surround himself with the other feeble minded

Title: Re: Political Animal
Post by sprintcyclist on Jan 21st, 2010 at 10:54pm

marvel - freedom of speech is the best thing ever, as you have seen I get trounced plenty of times here.
Would not have it any other way
and very few people here ever get deleted or banned.

take care

Title: Re: Political Animal
Post by Marvel on Jan 21st, 2010 at 10:59pm

Quote:
take care


Thank you sprintcyclist

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Title: Re: Political Animal
Post by Marvel on Jan 21st, 2010 at 11:15pm
Apparently,,,

Year, boats, illegal immigrants and

Quote:
This is the first six years of the Howard government in 2003.4.5 there were one boat a year then it started going up again


Thats because the previous goverment did not make it attractive to come here!

Kevin is here now and guess wat happens  ::)


Quote:
1996 19 660
1997 11 339
998 17 200
1999 86 3721
2000 51 2939
2001 43 5516
This is the first six years of the Howard government in 2003.4.5 there were one boat a year then it started going up again
2006 6 60
2007 5 148
2008 7 161
2009 16 589 as of the 21/06/09

Title: Re: Political Animal
Post by Marvel on Jan 21st, 2010 at 11:35pm

Quote:
how about looking at all those who come here via plane then stay, 50,000 a year, sprint


Why do these people lie so much. Do they have something to gain by not telling the truth or are they too stupid to find it?

Title: Re: Political Animal
Post by sprintcyclist on Jan 22nd, 2010 at 12:17am

a s i don't agree with him. i guess i'll bebanned

he may as well be a muzzie

Title: Re: Political Animal
Post by skippee on Jan 22nd, 2010 at 8:22am

Sunny_beach_babe wrote on Jan 21st, 2010 at 11:35pm:

Quote:
how about looking at all those who come here via plane then stay, 50,000 a year, sprint


Why do these people lie so much. Do they have something to gain by not telling the truth or are they too stupid to find it?


Why do you hide behind socks deepy/IQSRLOW?

Read this and weep, its clear for all to see that you are the one lying.


Quote:
Seeking asylum by boat or by plane
Nick Bryant | 14:54 UK time, Tuesday, 20 October 2009

Why is it that asylum seekers who attempt to reach Australia by sea provoke a very different political reaction from those arriving by air?

So far this year just over 1,700 unauthorised immigrants have arrived by boat, a tenfold increase on 2008. But the number is dwarfed by those arriving by air - over 50,000 who tend to overstay their visas, thus becoming unauthorised immigrants, and then avoid detection. These "plane people" hardly raise an eyebrow. Not so the "boat people", like the 250 or so Sri Lankan Tamils intercepted by the Indonesian navy following a personal plea from Kevin Rudd to the Indonesian president

http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/nickbryant/2009/10/seeking_asylum_by_boat_or_by_p.html

Title: Re: Political Animal
Post by skippee on Jan 22nd, 2010 at 8:24am

Sunny_beach_babe wrote on Jan 21st, 2010 at 9:04pm:
He has not and will not learn, he even hands out IP address of visitors to his forum,,not someone who deserves trust

Not too mention at his forum he is the nickname police,,yet king of it himself
[quote="HBSguy"]I told him not to use "Krudd"


Quite disturbing[/quote]


Quote:
, he even hands out IP address of visitors to his forum,,not someone who deserves trust

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Political Animal
Post by Marvel on Jan 22nd, 2010 at 8:52am
Visa overstayers are not the same as illegal immigrants and you know it

Your 50000 figures are all returned to where they come from eventually

Once again you are a liar

Title: Re: Political Animal
Post by skippee on Jan 22nd, 2010 at 8:59am

Sunny_beach_babe wrote on Jan 22nd, 2010 at 8:52am:
Visa overstayers are not the same as illegal immigrants and you know it

Your 50000 figures are all returned to where they come from eventually

Once again you are a liar


Visa over stayers are here illegally deepy/IQSRLOW, that's why they're called VISA OVERSTAYERS they were only supposed to be here for the length of their visa.
Your assertion that they are returned eventually is quaint, why are they returned? because they are here illegally,dumbo. ;D ;D ;D
Why don't you read the facts instead of doing the usual rightard thing of screaming about the true refugees on boats,why not scream about the plane illegal immigrants?

Title: Re: Political Animal
Post by Marvel on Jan 22nd, 2010 at 9:52am

Quote:
Visa over stayers are here illegally deepy/IQSRLOW, that's why they're called VISA OVERSTAYERS


Thank you for admitting that they are nothing like the illegal immigrants on boats.

At least the people with visas don't tear up their papers and make up stories who are then support by the useful idiots like yourself


Title: Re: Political Animal
Post by DARWIN on Jan 22nd, 2010 at 11:28am

skippy. wrote on Jan 22nd, 2010 at 8:24am:

Sunny_beach_babe wrote on Jan 21st, 2010 at 9:04pm:
He has not and will not learn, he even hands out IP address of visitors to his forum,,not someone who deserves trust

Not too mention at his forum he is the nickname police,,yet king of it himself
[quote="HBSguy"]I told him not to use "Krudd"


Quite disturbing



Quote:
, he even hands out IP address of visitors to his forum,,not someone who deserves trust

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D[/quote]

Oh the irony, the irony!

Title: Re: Political Animal
Post by DARWIN on Jan 22nd, 2010 at 11:29am

freediver wrote on Jan 21st, 2010 at 8:44pm:
Do you understand the thing about personal info now? I would hate for Aussie to let you back in, only to discover that you didn't understand the lesson.

Sure boss

Title: Re: Political Animal
Post by DARWIN on Jan 22nd, 2010 at 11:30am

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jan 21st, 2010 at 10:29pm:
marvel - yes, he's a typical lefty. Ok at dishing out his own comments, but anything coming back is verboten

Don't be childish. I asked you not to use ONE very over-used construction.

Title: Re: Political Animal
Post by DARWIN on Jan 22nd, 2010 at 11:31am

Sunny_beach_babe wrote on Jan 21st, 2010 at 9:04pm:
He has not and will not learn, he even hands out IP address of visitors to his forum,,not someone who deserves trust

Not too mention at his forum he is the nickname police,,yet king of it himself
[quote="HBS Guy"]I told him not to use "Krudd"


Quite disturbing[/quote]
IP address of visitors? When?

Title: Re: Political Animal
Post by DARWIN on Jan 22nd, 2010 at 11:35am

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jan 21st, 2010 at 10:54pm:
marvel - freedom of speech is the best thing ever, as you have seen I get trounced plenty of times here.
Would not have it any other way
and very few people here ever get deleted or banned.

take care

You have not been deleted or banned.

Title: Re: Political Animal
Post by DARWIN on Jan 22nd, 2010 at 11:37am

Sunny_beach_babe wrote on Jan 21st, 2010 at 11:15pm:
Apparently,,,

Year, boats, illegal immigrants and

Quote:
This is the first six years of the Howard government in 2003.4.5 there were one boat a year then it started going up again


Thats because the previous goverment did not make it attractive to come here!

Kevin is here now and guess wat happens  ::)

[quote]1996 19 660
1997 11 339
998 17 200
1999 86 3721
2000 51 2939
2001 43 5516
This is the first six years of the Howard government in 2003.4.5 there were one boat a year then it started going up again
2006 6 60
2007 5 148
2008 7 161
2009 16 589 as of the 21/06/09
[/quote]
Another sheeple believing Howard lies. the numbers of asylum seekers arriving during the so-called Pacific Solution exactly paralleled the number of asylum seekers worldwide.

What happened to 2002?

Title: Re: Political Animal
Post by DARWIN on Jan 22nd, 2010 at 11:46am
If anyone wants to know what site it is deepthought & Sprintcyclist are bagging it is:

www.polanimal.com.au

A great Forum for discussing politics, food, beer, wine, photography, gardening and more. Open to all, left right or fence sitters.

Title: Re: Political Animal
Post by sprintcyclist on Jan 22nd, 2010 at 12:14pm
darwin - hahaaahahaahaha.
a site if you want to agree with the moderator

don't say anything agianst rudd, i think monk has rudds piccie on his bedroom ceiling

yes darwin, i have been deleted. here's a poem for you, pass it onto monk with my regards.

"Monk is drunk on his best mates spunk."

like it ?

Title: Re: Political Animal
Post by DARWIN on Jan 22nd, 2010 at 12:38pm
That is a lie as you know very well--you will go to hell when you die! ;)

Title: Re: Political Animal
Post by sprintcyclist on Jan 22nd, 2010 at 12:56pm

What ?
monk hasn't got krudds piccie on his bedroom ceiling ?

Title: Re: Political Animal
Post by Marvel on Jan 22nd, 2010 at 1:01pm

Darwin wrote on Jan 22nd, 2010 at 11:31am:
IP address of visitors? When?


Are you denying you haven't given out the IP addresses of visitors of your site to anyone?

Title: Re: Political Animal
Post by sprintcyclist on Jan 22nd, 2010 at 1:21pm

he'ld deny anything. Insecure control freaks are like that

Title: Re: Political Animal
Post by DARWIN on Jan 22nd, 2010 at 1:25pm

Sunny_beach_babe wrote on Jan 22nd, 2010 at 1:01pm:

Darwin wrote on Jan 22nd, 2010 at 11:31am:
IP address of visitors? When?


Are you denying you haven't given out the IP addresses of visitors of your site to anyone?


You are telling the story. I am just asking for details. Come on, tell us all what you think I did.

Title: Re: Political Animal
Post by Marvel on Jan 22nd, 2010 at 2:04pm

Darwin wrote on Jan 22nd, 2010 at 1:25pm:

Sunny_beach_babe wrote on Jan 22nd, 2010 at 1:01pm:

Darwin wrote on Jan 22nd, 2010 at 11:31am:
IP address of visitors? When?


Are you denying you haven't given out the IP addresses of visitors of your site to anyone?


You are telling the story. I am just asking for details. Come on, tell us all what you think I did.


So you are not denying you give out IP addresses

Interesting.



Title: Re: Political Animal
Post by DARWIN on Jan 22nd, 2010 at 2:18pm
You are the one making accusations, substantiate them.

Title: Re: Political Animal
Post by skippee on Jan 22nd, 2010 at 2:22pm

Sunny_beach_babe wrote on Jan 22nd, 2010 at 9:52am:

Quote:
Visa over stayers are here illegally deepy/IQSRLOW, that's why they're called VISA OVERSTAYERS


Thank you for admitting that they are nothing like the illegal immigrants on boats.

At least the people with visas don't tear up their papers and make up stories who are then support by the useful idiots like yourself


On the contrary, I think plane illegals are much worse, we get 50000 of them a year compered to a few thousand boat people at best.Then when they are here many of them work in illegal prostitution, sell drugs skim credit and visa cards or work for a pittance in sweat shops  where they pay no tax.The plane illegals are a huge drain on our economy,whilst the boat refugees, most of whom are accepted as genuine refugees, blend into our society and make a legal contribution to it,they have no need to hide from immigration or work in illegal activities like the plane refugees do.

Title: Re: Political Animal
Post by Marvel on Jan 22nd, 2010 at 2:37pm

Darwin wrote on Jan 22nd, 2010 at 2:18pm:
You are the one making accusations, substantiate them.


Have you given out IP addresses

Yes or No?

A non-answer will condem you

Title: Re: Political Animal
Post by DARWIN on Jan 22nd, 2010 at 2:46pm
You made an accusation now support it.

If you can't support it, withdraw it.

Title: Re: Political Animal
Post by Marvel on Jan 22nd, 2010 at 2:54pm
A simple yes or no will suffice

Title: Re: Political Animal
Post by skippee on Jan 22nd, 2010 at 2:58pm

Sunny_beach_babe wrote on Jan 22nd, 2010 at 2:54pm:
A simple yes or no will suffice


How come you aren't posting on your forum "marvel"?
You in hiding? Aussie needs you back there, he has something to share with you.

Title: Re: Political Animal
Post by DARWIN on Jan 22nd, 2010 at 3:03pm
I don't have to answer to you DT, you made an accusation now substantiate or withdraw.

I bet you almost typed "evidence please" a couple of posts back, eh?

Now, substantiate or withdraw. And why aren't you moving into your hobby farm? Letting your mythical gf do the work or there is no farm?

Substantiate or withdraw.

Title: Re: Political Animal
Post by Marvel on Jan 22nd, 2010 at 3:44pm
I am not DT

You dont have to non-answer to me but you should answer for those that visit your forum.

They have a right to know that you freely give out IP addresses.

They know now anyway

Title: Re: Political Animal
Post by skippee on Jan 22nd, 2010 at 3:48pm

Quote:
They have a right to know that you freely give out IP addresses.


What is an IP address anyway? you seem very paranoid, Marvel.

Title: Re: Political Animal
Post by DARWIN on Jan 22nd, 2010 at 3:52pm
That is a a foul accusation that you have no evidence for DT!

Nothing you said happens at my board.

I ask that you withdraw that DT and if not I hope a mod will ban your arse. I will certainly report your post!

Title: Re: Political Animal
Post by Marvel on Jan 22nd, 2010 at 3:53pm
You should ask HBSguy


Title: Re: Political Animal
Post by DARWIN on Jan 22nd, 2010 at 3:57pm
OK, I have alerted a moderator.

DT, funny things happen at your forum but mine is on the up and up OK?

Making unsubstantiated accusations is crap behavior. If they decide to ban you they better IP ban you. Why use a sock when you have a perfectly good Deepthought account here?

Back you your hobby farm, your gf has eloped with the next door neighbor!

Title: Re: Political Animal
Post by skippee on Jan 22nd, 2010 at 3:57pm

Darwin wrote on Jan 22nd, 2010 at 3:52pm:
That is a a foul accusation that you have no evidence for DT!

Nothing you said happens at my board.

I ask that you withdraw that DT and if not I hope a mod will ban your arse. I will certainly report your post!


Yea I'd have to support DARWIN there, I post on his forum and I've never seen anything like one of these IP addresses? on any thread.
Are they like a party invitation? I've seen lots of invitations there to join in the forum, is that what you mean,Marvel?

Title: Re: Political Animal
Post by Marvel on Jan 22nd, 2010 at 3:59pm

Darwin wrote on Jan 22nd, 2010 at 3:52pm:
That is a a foul accusation that you have no evidence for DT!

Nothing you said happens at my board.

I ask that you withdraw that DT and if not I hope a mod will ban your arse. I will certainly report your post!


So is that a denial then? Is no your official position?

Title: Re: Political Animal
Post by DARWIN on Jan 22nd, 2010 at 4:00pm
We all know what a liar DT is, they would know that on 20 or 30 boards I should think. God, even D&R banned DT and they never ban righties!

Title: Re: Political Animal
Post by Marvel on Jan 22nd, 2010 at 4:01pm

Quote:
I post on his forum and I've never seen anything like one of these IP addresses? on any thread.


I never said they were given out on a thread

Title: Re: Political Animal
Post by Marvel on Jan 22nd, 2010 at 4:02pm

Sunny_beach_babe wrote on Jan 22nd, 2010 at 2:37pm:
Have you given out IP addresses

Yes or No?

A non-answer will condem you


Title: Re: Political Animal
Post by skippee on Jan 22nd, 2010 at 4:05pm

Sunny_beach_babe wrote on Jan 22nd, 2010 at 4:01pm:

Quote:
I post on his forum and I've never seen anything like one of these IP addresses? on any thread.


I never said they were given out on a thread


You really are confused son, you say this IP thingo was given out on Monks forum,then you say it was not on a thread, I think you owe monk an apology ,Marven.

Title: Re: Political Animal
Post by Marvel on Jan 22nd, 2010 at 4:09pm

Quote:
you say this IP thingo was given out on Monks forum,then you say it was not on a thread


That is correct,, as you could attest to

Title: Re: Political Animal
Post by Marvel on Jan 22nd, 2010 at 4:12pm
Steill waiting for that yes or no answer

Title: Re: Political Animal
Post by skippee on Jan 22nd, 2010 at 4:16pm

Sunny_beach_babe wrote on Jan 22nd, 2010 at 4:09pm:

Quote:
you say this IP thingo was given out on Monks forum,then you say it was not on a thread


That is correct,, as you could attest to


How so?  you are making up lies about me too now?
Evidence please?


Title: Re: Political Animal
Post by Marvel on Jan 22nd, 2010 at 4:20pm
HBSguy/DARWIN is already avoiding answering a question.

Do you want to avoid answering one too?

Title: Re: Political Animal
Post by skippee on Jan 22nd, 2010 at 4:23pm

Sunny_beach_babe wrote on Jan 22nd, 2010 at 4:20pm:
HBSguy/DARWIN is already avoiding answering a question.

Do you want to avoid answering one too?


I have no idea what you are talking about, hows that for an answer?
Now, your evidence? or your apology,which will it be?

Title: Re: Political Animal
Post by DARWIN on Jan 22nd, 2010 at 4:31pm
Just leave it Skippy, a mod will hopefully delete all his lying crap. I do not intend to get into further conversation with him--gave him chances to substantiate or withdraw and he has done neither. Pathetic.

Title: Re: Political Animal
Post by Marvel on Jan 22nd, 2010 at 4:36pm

Sunny_beach_babe wrote on Jan 22nd, 2010 at 4:02pm:

Sunny_beach_babe wrote on Jan 22nd, 2010 at 2:37pm:
Have you given out IP addresses

Yes or No?

A non-answer will condem you


Title: Re: Political Animal
Post by skippee on Jan 22nd, 2010 at 4:38pm

Darwin wrote on Jan 22nd, 2010 at 4:31pm:
Just leave it Skippy, a mod will hopefully delete all his lying crap. I do not intend to get into further conversation with him--gave him chances to substantiate or withdraw and he has done neither. Pathetic.

Hopefully Mozz will ban his ass, he was banned two months ago but just turns up under a new nick.

Title: Re: Political Animal
Post by DARWIN on Jan 22nd, 2010 at 4:42pm
Naughty naughty DT!

You did that in D&R too, didn't you? Came back using my Jovial Monk nick and avatar, the mods there booted your fat arse again and then you came back again as Jesting Monk STILL using my avatar!

The D&R mods punished you for that, didn't they, revealing lots of embarrassing info about you. Three boards you destroyed was it? I saved that stuff while it was up you know.

You have my personal details standing in your forum, skippy's and I think Aussie had his personal details revealed there?

Not a good netizen, are you DT?

And this lie you concocted out of two pictures you stole from my website and doctored up and published in your crappy Forum:

http://www.jovialmonk.com.au/tom/deepshit/lie.png

The main picture he stole and doctored--fraudently altered--is this one:
http://www.jovialmonk.com.au//tom/deepshit/realpic.jpg

Any explanation?

Title: Re: Political Animal
Post by Marvel on Jan 22nd, 2010 at 4:56pm
I am not DT

Are you going to answer the question or keep avoiding it?

Avoiding it makes you look guilty

Title: Re: Political Animal
Post by DARWIN on Jan 22nd, 2010 at 4:58pm
Yeah, I think DT will have his arse booted for sure.

Title: Re: Political Animal
Post by Marvel on Jan 22nd, 2010 at 5:06pm
Not DT.

Now,, about those IP address that you freely give out.

Confirm or deny?

Title: Re: Political Animal
Post by DARWIN on Jan 22nd, 2010 at 5:13pm
You are a liar and trouble stirrer.

Title: Re: Political Animal
Post by Marvel on Jan 22nd, 2010 at 5:25pm

Sunny_beach_babe wrote on Jan 22nd, 2010 at 5:06pm:
Not DT.

Now,, about those IP address that you freely give out.

Confirm or deny?


Title: Re: Political Animal
Post by Aussie on Jan 22nd, 2010 at 5:29pm
If Marvel is DT, I am Monk, and I can assure you I am not Monk.

However, he raises an interesting question, one you could so easily deal with, and bring closure.  The question is HBS Guy/DARWIN have you been disclosing IP numbers to people who do not have access to them?


Title: Re: Political Animal
Post by DARWIN on Jan 22nd, 2010 at 5:56pm
Two can play that game Aussie! I hear you have sold some IP Nos, is that true? Answer yes or No!


Crap isn't it. Who am I to cast foul allegations and not offer the least substantiation? Equally, who are you and DT to do so to me? I am certainly not answerable to you or DT.




Now, I know you didn't sell IP Nos because you are too stupid, no, because you are honest, stupid but honest. A Dunderhead in fact.

Now, if people were clamouring that I had handed out their IP Nos then maybe I have something to answer. When it is two lousy Admins, one disguised, starting rumors I do not play their silly games.

Have you anything to substantiate your allegation, or are you just casting unfounded aspersions? Think carefully before you answer.

You are also way too close to DT for me to take any notice of what you say about DT/Marvel--you are becoming very devious Aussie.

Want me to report your post to a mod too?

Title: Re: Political Animal
Post by DARWIN on Jan 22nd, 2010 at 6:18pm
OK, FD

Have I been unbanned on Aussie's board yet?

Title: Re: Political Animal
Post by Marvel on Jan 22nd, 2010 at 6:24pm

Quote:
Two can play that game Aussie! I hear you have sold some IP Nos, is that true? Answer yes or No!


Aussie could answer that as easily as you could answer the question put to you.

The only reason he would avoid answering is if he was guilty of having "sold some IP Nos" (whatever that means)

It's the same reason you avoid answering the question put to you.

Title: Re: Political Animal
Post by DARWIN on Jan 22nd, 2010 at 6:35pm
Reported Aussie's post too.

Title: Re: Political Animal
Post by Marvel on Jan 22nd, 2010 at 6:40pm
And still failed to answer

Hmmmm

Title: Re: Political Animal
Post by Aussie on Jan 22nd, 2010 at 7:00pm

Quote:
Two can play that game Aussie! I hear you have sold some IP Nos, is that true? Answer yes or No!


Easy peasy.........No.

Your turn.

:)

Title: Re: Political Animal
Post by DARWIN on Jan 22nd, 2010 at 7:08pm
I said you hadn't. I made it very clear that it wasn't me making unfounded allegations.

DT seems to be fishing for something, why not tell me what you are looking for, hmmm?

Title: Re: Political Animal
Post by Aussie on Jan 22nd, 2010 at 7:16pm

Darwin wrote on Jan 22nd, 2010 at 7:08pm:
I said you hadn't. I made it very clear that it wasn't me making unfounded allegations.

DT seems to be fishing for something, why not tell me what you are looking for, hmmm?



You keep avoiding the issue confronting you.  Which is, (as you know) HBS Guy/DARWIN, have you been disclosing IP numbers to people who do not have access to them?  

I was up front with a 'No.'

Your turn.
:D

Title: Re: Political Animal
Post by DARWIN on Jan 22nd, 2010 at 8:06pm
So, do you have some evidence that caused you to ask that question?

Title: Re: Political Animal
Post by Marvel on Jan 22nd, 2010 at 8:11pm
You look more guilty with every non-answer

Title: Re: Political Animal
Post by sprintcyclist on Jan 22nd, 2010 at 8:20pm

methinks darwin dith protesth too much

krudd krudd krudd krudd krudd krudd krudd krudd krudd krudd krudd krudd
krudd krudd krudd krudd krudd krudd krudd krudd krudd krudd krudd krudd
krudd krudd krudd krudd krudd krudd krudd krudd krudd krudd krudd krudd


go back to your sheltered workshop site , control freak

Title: Re: Political Animal
Post by DARWIN on Jan 22nd, 2010 at 9:08pm
"dith"??? Ignoramus!

Title: Re: Political Animal
Post by Marvel on Jan 22nd, 2010 at 9:26pm
Yet another non-answer.

Your inability to not post is really hampering your efforts to appear not guilty.

Maybe you should just fess up?

Title: Re: Political Animal
Post by DARWIN on Jan 22nd, 2010 at 9:53pm
Someone, DT most likely, guest posted an offensive post on my forum.

FD should seriously think whether DT & Aussie have a role on this site.

Title: Re: Political Animal
Post by Marvel on Jan 22nd, 2010 at 9:54pm
I didn't think it was offensive. I thought you may answer it if it was posted there, but you deleted it.

Does this look offensive?

Curious.JPG (65 KB | 40 )

Title: Re: Political Animal
Post by Marvel on Jan 22nd, 2010 at 9:56pm
Not such a friendly open forum as you proclaim is it?

No questions you don't want

No nicknames unless you are using them

Seems pretty dictatorship like dont you think?

Title: Re: Political Animal
Post by Marvel on Jan 22nd, 2010 at 10:09pm
I don't blame you for bowing out and slinking away.

It doesnt look very good for you or your forum giving away private information.

Posters should be very wary of you and your forum

Title: Re: Political Animal
Post by DARWIN on Jan 22nd, 2010 at 10:24pm
Got any evidence to back up those statements DT?

you have been busy casting aspersions on me, you pretend you are not DT (but the act slips) so, any proof, a shred of evidence?

If you can't provide any such I hope the mods bounce your fat arse out of here and delete your posts.

Aussie backing you up, again without a hint of evidence, casts doubt on his fitness to be on this site.

Title: Re: Political Animal
Post by Marvel on Jan 22nd, 2010 at 10:29pm
not DT

i have evidence

answer the question kruddlover

Title: Re: Political Animal
Post by Marvel on Jan 22nd, 2010 at 10:31pm

Quote:
Aussie backing you up, again without a hint of evidence, casts doubt on his fitness to be on this site.


so it is ,,, quick ban them,,their onto me is it?
;D

Title: Re: Political Animal
Post by DARWIN on Jan 22nd, 2010 at 10:39pm
So, no evidence? All this crap and you have no evidence to back up your assertions?

And you are DT, no doubt about that.

A troublemaker, a s h i t stirrer. Likes to destroy other Forums. (Just ask Nicole or Boone on D&R for the "Hidden thread" that stars DT in very unflattering light.

I leave you with the s h i t you have been busy stirring. Enjoy the smell.

Title: Re: Political Animal
Post by Marvel on Jan 22nd, 2010 at 10:41pm
Yet anothr duck from answering

readers can only conclude that you do give out IP addresses


Title: Re: Political Animal
Post by sprintcyclist on Jan 23rd, 2010 at 8:05am

wadda brainless loser you are darwin.

you have given your own tightly regulated site a POOR (but true) representation here.


Title: Re: Political Animal
Post by DARWIN on Jan 23rd, 2010 at 8:26am
You childish twit, you just contradicted yourself in your post.

Title: Re: Political Animal
Post by freediver on Jan 23rd, 2010 at 8:32am
I'll close this now. Looks like everyone has had their say. This is not the place to exchange insults.

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