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Title: UK election Post by skippy. on May 11th, 2010 at 12:29pm
Who should lead the UK?
The conservatives got 36% of the vote, but not enough to govern on their own. On the other hand a Labour/Lib Dems coalition would see over sixty percent of voters choice represented in government. Gordon Brown has said he'll step down before September, could Nick Clegg from the Lib Dems become PM? |
Title: Re: UK election Post by Soren on May 11th, 2010 at 1:52pm
The LibDems can be junior partners only in a coalition. If it's not with the Conservatives, then there will be another election before the year is out. The price the LimDems demand for cooperation is electoral reform.
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Title: Re: UK election Post by skippy. on May 11th, 2010 at 1:59pm Soren wrote on May 11th, 2010 at 1:52pm:
Why do you say a Lib Dem Labour coalition wouldn't last a year? Labour are the much more natural partner for the Lib Dems why shouldn't they form a coalition? |
Title: Re: UK election Post by Soren on May 11th, 2010 at 3:58pm
Because the combined Labour (258) and LibDem (57) seats are still not an overall majority (326).
The Conservatives have 306 seats, other parties 28, still to vote, 1. Total seats = 650 |
Title: Re: UK election Post by Imperium on May 11th, 2010 at 4:30pm
The only parties I would like to see running the United Kingdom as they all currently stand are the BNP and to a lesser extent UKIP, but I don't think either did very well this time around (though the BNP did increase their share of the votes, but only modestly.) The Tories are mostly all talk. Regardless of what either party says, there'll be more deindustrialization, more third world immigration, more Muslim/African pandemonium, more absurd legislation and more miscellaneous social problems of every possible kind that are only furthering to transform the United Kingdom into a bizarre travesty of what it once was; a nightmarish, blade-runneresque society where ugly architecture and fat, ugly people are watched day in and day out by thousands of creepy surveillance cameras that can be found on every high-street, office-park and business district around the country.
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Title: Re: UK election Post by skippy. on May 11th, 2010 at 4:37pm Soren wrote on May 11th, 2010 at 3:58pm:
That doesn't explain why a Labour/Lib Dem coalition would not last a year. Whoever governs will need to do it in a coalition, Labour and the Lib Dems are much closer in policy than the Conservative party are with the Lib Dems. As for the Cons having the most votes, they only got 36% of the vote, a very poor showing considering how on the nose Labour were. |
Title: Re: UK election Post by JaeMi on May 11th, 2010 at 7:22pm
I would like to see a Tory/LibDem coalition. And just because Clegg says that Lib Dems are closer in policy with Labour than the Conservatives doesn't make it true. It was only because he didn't want to alienate his moderate voters. The only real beef they have with the Tories are military spending and integration with the EU. I doubt Clegg, being a market liberal, would mix well with Labour. Of course, the major issue is electoral reform, but we'll have to see what the Tories propose on that first.
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Title: Re: UK election Post by JaeMi on May 12th, 2010 at 7:09am Quote:
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Title: Re: UK election Post by JaeMi on May 12th, 2010 at 7:10am Quote:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/politics/election_2010/8675265.stm |
Title: Re: UK election Post by helian on May 12th, 2010 at 7:40am
Regardless of your political leanings, you do have to shake your head in disbelief at the tragi-comic ineptitude of Gordon Brown's handling of his self-inflicted "bigot-gate".
Not content with issuing an apology to the woman then move on with the campaign, Brown, by now obsessed with his own stupidity, insisted on personally apologising to the woman at her home, risking her public rebuke to his face and/or a public "jilting". In the end the outcome was almost as bad... With the press on the doorstep, he apparently spent a full 15 minutes in her house allowing media (and by that, national) conjecture about the goings-on inside to rumble bovver-booted over his political reputation. To cap it off, the woman, Gillian Duffy, half-jilted him by refusing to stand with him outside her home. The fiasco turned what was already an embarrassing gaffe, from a recoverable slip, into a national frenzy of speculation about Brown's fitness to hold high office. |
Title: Re: UK election Post by Soren on May 12th, 2010 at 10:06am NorthOfNorth wrote on May 12th, 2010 at 7:40am:
His fitness was questioned when he took over from Blair - whose fitness had been questioed for years before that. |
Title: Re: UK election Post by skippy. on May 12th, 2010 at 10:17am Soren wrote on May 12th, 2010 at 10:06am:
What of Cameron's fitness? untried,inexperienced and made PM with just 36% of the populations support. I expect like the rightards here Cameron couldn't wait to get his grubby little hands on no 10 but lets see how well he's travelling in a year from now, he's in a coalition with a party that has entirely different goals and supporters to his own. This coalition wont last a year, it would be like Labor and the Nationals going into coalition in Australia,it wont work, I expect the conservatives have pizzed in Cleggs pocket and said yea yea we'll do what you want, but we all know how untrustworthy these conservatives are.Not to mention 64% of Britain DID NOT VOTE TORRIE,a recipe for disaster. |
Title: Re: UK election Post by Annie Anthrax on May 12th, 2010 at 10:34am
I like Cameron. He sems to be less conservative than some of his party mates. He's not a fan of the BNP, which is a big plus in my book.
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Title: Re: UK election Post by helian on May 12th, 2010 at 10:41am Soren wrote on May 12th, 2010 at 10:06am:
Yes and those reservations were probably coalesced and magnified by Brown's self-inflicted "bigot-gate". |
Title: Re: UK election Post by Soren on May 12th, 2010 at 12:13pm
England 1, Scotland 0
Now that the Scottish tyrants have departed, England should declare its independence from Scotland (and Wales...) :D http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eIwGD_XQNSM |
Title: Re: UK election Post by Soren on May 12th, 2010 at 12:22pm skippy. wrote on May 12th, 2010 at 10:17am:
Blair had 43.2% in 1997 and and only 35.3% in 2005 when they knew that the tried and tested and detested McBroon was coming. |
Title: Re: UK election Post by skippy. on May 12th, 2010 at 12:31pm Soren wrote on May 12th, 2010 at 12:22pm:
So what? Last time I checked Britain ,like Australia, elected a party, not a President, now 64% of British voters have a party they did not vote for. |
Title: Re: UK election Post by Soren on May 12th, 2010 at 12:34pm skippy. wrote on May 12th, 2010 at 12:31pm:
So what? Blair was elected in 2005 with less than Cameron in 2010. Were you revolting then, too? |
Title: Re: UK election Post by Soren on May 14th, 2010 at 11:50pm
Not only but also:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6qoQ7UvEBk The people who brought us McDonalds... |
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