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Message started by athos on Jun 30th, 2010 at 7:27pm

Title: Neanderthals Were Fully Human!
Post by athos on Jun 30th, 2010 at 7:27pm
Generations have been taught to believe that Neanderthal Man was a half-stooped ape-man barely able to walk. This initial reconstruction of the Neanderthals was based on evolutionary bias and occurred before complete and better preserved bones of the Neanderthals were discovered showing that they were completely erect and completely human in every way. By the time many scientists came to be convinced that the Neanderthals were completely human, not half-ape or becoming human, the factual damage in the popular media was done and the Neanderthals became forever synonymous with low intelligent, brutish, knuckle-walking ape - men.


This is so obvious





Title: Re: Neanderthals Were Fully Human!
Post by skippy. on Jul 1st, 2010 at 8:32am
I think the bloke in the first pic looks a lot brighter than the other bloke.

Title: Re: Neanderthals Were Fully Human!
Post by muso on Jul 1st, 2010 at 8:40am

athos wrote on Jun 30th, 2010 at 7:27pm:
Generations have been taught to believe that Neanderthal Man was a half-stooped ape-man barely able to walk. This initial reconstruction of the Neanderthals was based on evolutionary bias and occurred before complete and better preserved bones of the Neanderthals were discovered showing that they were completely erect and completely human in every way. By the time many scientists came to be convinced that the Neanderthals were completely human, not half-ape or becoming human, the factual damage in the popular media was done and the Neanderthals became forever synonymous with low intelligent, brutish, knuckle-walking ape - men.


This is so obvious






Yeah.  Homo neanderthalensis artifacts of the time are every bit as good as homo sapiens artifacts, indicating considerable intelligence.

The jury is out on whether they had any art though.

http://www.paleodirect.com/pgset2/m199.htm

Title: Re: Neanderthals Were Fully Human!
Post by mantra on Jul 1st, 2010 at 8:43am
Athos - that is a revolting picture of Abbott and you've turned me off my breakfast.

I'm not usually an advocate for male body waxing, but Abbott is in desperate need of it. Speedos should also be banned.

Title: Re: Neanderthals Were Fully Human!
Post by Imperium on Jul 1st, 2010 at 8:56am
Muso is correct in saying that Neanderthals were quite intelligent. They may have averaged larger crania than Homo Sapiens, though they had quite large bodies and were very strong, so their relative brain mass was slightly smaller than Homo Sapiens.

Title: Re: Neanderthals Were Fully Human!
Post by athos on Jul 1st, 2010 at 11:24am
I think that Neanderthals had special way of thinking, similar like today politicians.

Title: Re: Neanderthals Were Fully Human!
Post by Imperium on Jul 1st, 2010 at 11:28am
they had special way typing too

ooga booga

Title: Re: Neanderthals Were Fully Human!
Post by gizmo_2655 on Jul 2nd, 2010 at 3:46pm

athos wrote on Jun 30th, 2010 at 7:27pm:
Generations have been taught to believe that Neanderthal Man was a half-stooped ape-man barely able to walk. This initial reconstruction of the Neanderthals was based on evolutionary bias and occurred before complete and better preserved bones of the Neanderthals were discovered showing that they were completely erect and completely human in every way. By the time many scientists came to be convinced that the Neanderthals were completely human, not half-ape or becoming human, the factual damage in the popular media was done and the Neanderthals became forever synonymous with low intelligent, brutish, knuckle-walking ape - men.


This is so obvious







Yep, the 'Sub-Human' Neanderthals idea was dumped, or debunked...about 20 yrs ago...

Title: Re: Neanderthals Were Fully Human!
Post by freediver on Jul 2nd, 2010 at 6:27pm
I saw a documentary claiming it was social structure - living in larger (ie more powerful) groups - that lead to HS outcompeting HN. In other words, politics.

Title: Re: Neanderthals Were Fully Human!
Post by gizmo_2655 on Jul 2nd, 2010 at 9:15pm

freediver wrote on Jul 2nd, 2010 at 6:27pm:
I saw a documentary claiming it was social structure - living in larger (ie more powerful) groups - that lead to HS outcompeting HN. In other words, politics.

Quite possible...As far as we know..Neanderthals lived in family groups, all related...H.Sapiens lived in tribes made up of several family groups...

More individuals= more hands to do the work, which means a greater 'economic' capacity.....

Title: Re: Neanderthals Were Fully Human!
Post by freediver on Jul 2nd, 2010 at 9:17pm
More importantly, it means more clubs next time you run accross and enemy.

Title: Re: Neanderthals Were Fully Human!
Post by gizmo_2655 on Jul 2nd, 2010 at 9:21pm
Yeah that too....

The larger the population base, the more successful the tribe...

Title: Re: Neanderthals Were Fully Human!
Post by freediver on Jul 2nd, 2010 at 9:25pm
It's similar to farmers pushing out hunter gatherers.

Title: Re: Neanderthals Were Fully Human!
Post by bobbythebat1 on Jul 3rd, 2010 at 10:00am
Neanderthals still exist.
I met many on the rugby field when I was a kid.

Title: Re: Neanderthals Were Fully Human!
Post by athos on Jul 3rd, 2010 at 10:11am
There are rumors (Woman's gossip magazine) that Tony Abbot is secretly in love with Julia Gillard, but too shy to express it, similar like Penny Wong.
As someone said: Ah bloody emotions how to control them?.

In fact, in accordance with the magazine, Tony and Penny hate each other because they are both in love with Julia.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=57AZoqKQyZQ&feature=player_embedded#!


Another Julia’s admirer Penny Wong shows her masculinity and subconsciously tries to hug Julia Gillard





Title: Re: Neanderthals Were Fully Human!
Post by bobbythebat1 on Jul 3rd, 2010 at 10:56am
What a funny video with Abbott & Julia.
They seem like long lost lovers  ;D

Title: Re: Neanderthals Were Fully Human!
Post by muso on Jul 3rd, 2010 at 1:04pm

athos wrote on Jul 3rd, 2010 at 10:11am:
There are rumors (Woman's gossip magazine) that Tony Abbot is secretly in love with Julia Gillard, but too shy to express it, similar like Penny Wong.
As someone said: Ah bloody emotions how to control them?.


They could have a ménage à trois and be done with it.  ;D

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