Wherever has it got you ?
Union membership has declined for decades.
Anyone here ever benefitted from being in a union?

lefty govts in aussie have wrecked ruin upon every state
aussie was was best under a right wing govt.
under leftards, we have declined.

Dyslexics of the world, untie

Dttio!  ::)

Here, hare.

Since when do Australians say "leftard"?

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jul 4^th, 2010 at 9:27pm:

Wherever has it got you ? Union membership has declined for decades. Anyone here ever benefitted from being in a union? lefty govts in aussie have wrecked ruin upon every state aussie was was best under a right wing govt. under leftards, we have declined.

Unions are very important when it comes to
Health & Safety in the workplace.

helian - Ad Hominem, so off fvuck.
i'm sure you will understand that, you mental genius.

I think it's ad hominem only when somebody is actually trying to argue by insulting you. He was just insulting you.

sorry imp, you are quite correct.

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jul 4^th, 2010 at 10:38pm:

helian - Ad Hominem, so off fvuck. i'm sure you will understand that, you mental genius.

Sensitive tonight, Sprint. It was neither ad hom nor an intended insult. It would be an insult if I was suggesting you were dyslexic. Are you dyslexic?

I thought you were making fun of Sprint's sometimes crummy typing habits and not making an unrelated joke.

So did Sprint, apparently.

aikmann4 wrote on Jul 4^th, 2010 at 11:38pm:

I thought you were making fun of Sprint's sometimes crummy typing habits and not making an unrelated joke.

It was just the first thing I thought of when I read "leftards of the world"...

helian - yes, i'm dyslexic.
makes no difference to what i type, unless i was a leftard or a muzzie, then i'ld screech "insulted".

but i'm not an inbred loser, so can live with being a dyslexic.

and helian - off fvuck kunt you.
you say nothing and are worth as much

Wow, this is a revelation.

......... only if you are a soft wrister limp ......

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jul 4^th, 2010 at 11:45pm:

helian - yes, i'm dyslexic. makes no difference to what i type,

Ah... yeah it would... That's the fvckin point with dyslexia.


Sprintcyclist wrote on Jul 4^th, 2010 at 11:45pm:

unless i was a leftard or a muzzie, then i'ld screech "insulted".

But you are screeching "insulted"... Are you now saying you're a closet leftard or a muzzie... Or both?


Sprintcyclist wrote on Jul 4^th, 2010 at 11:45pm:

and helian - off fvuck kunt you. you say nothing and are worth as much

Get off the piss, have a cup of cocoa and calm the bugger down. Most of your posts recently have been half-witted rants... of the "whyever should a blah be snit?" kind. What? You're reading too much Dr Seuss?

Quote:

Unions are very important when it comes to Health & Safety in the workplace.

That is a very important point I think.
OH&S was borne from the unions and eventually taken over by the mindsets that never gave a crap in the first place.

What we find now is that OH&S breaches are shuffled along to being a resposibility of the employee and not those who threaten dimissal if the appropriate shortcuts are not taken.
There has found to be far too much power within the morals of OH&S to allow the unions to be preaching to us about what is right and what is wrong about profits vs. acceptable risk in the workplace. Now we have an extremely skewed version of what the priorities really are in reagrds to addressing immediate hazards.

The truth is that practically all companies still don't give a crap about OH&S as long as the job is being done and as long as there is nothing to affect the bottom line profits.
If somedody dies whilst doing their job, then the company will still not give a damn, as long as it doesn't cost them money.
The message will always be missed there, the control of OH&S needs to be in the hands of those who cared and created in the first place, not those who are controlled by money.i

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jul 4^th, 2010 at 9:27pm:

Wherever has it got you ? Union membership has declined for decades. Anyone here ever benefitted from being in a union? lefty govts in aussie have wrecked ruin upon every state aussie was was best under a right wing govt. under leftards, we have declined.

What an absolute crock of poo.
What has being a so called rightard ever got you sprint?
And if the world was just rightards to achieve anything you would have to be  either an "Old Boy" or "Old Money", they don't let just anyone in you know, if too many of the plebs suddenly turned up at the country club you can bet the goalposts would be moved.
You sound just like a red-neck I've seen described on various blogs I'll try & find it for you.

Quote:

Get off the piss, have a cup of cocoa and calm the bugger down. Most of your posts recently have been half-witted rants... of the "whyever should a blah be snit?" kind. What? You're reading too much Dr Seuss

Sprint is like all the rightards atm, they realise that opposition is their lot in life for quite a while to come, it makes them resort to lies(hi mellie/maqqa)rants(hi sprint) and just pure hate of reality.

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jul 4^th, 2010 at 9:27pm:

Wherever has it got you ? Union membership has declined for decades. Anyone here ever benefitted from being in a union?

Had some nice unions in the past. Oh - you're not talking about sex?  :o

Dsmithy70 wrote on Jul 5^th, 2010 at 8:41am:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jul 4th, 2010 at 9:27pm: Wherever has it got you ? Union membership has declined for decades. Anyone here ever benefitted from being in a union? lefty govts in aussie have wrecked ruin upon every state aussie was was best under a right wing govt. under leftards, we have declined. What an absolute crock of poo. What has being a so called rightard ever got you sprint? And if the world was just rightards to achieve anything you would have to be  either an "Old Boy" or "Old Money", they don't let just anyone in you know, if too many of the plebs suddenly turned up at the country club you can bet the goalposts would be moved. You sound just like a red-neck I've seen described on various blogs I'll try & find it for you.

Here you go sprint it's American but you get the drift being a self made righty without the need for us with a social justice conscience, just insert Leftard for Liberal

A Day in the Life of Joe Republican. Joe gets up at 6 a.m. and fills his coffeepot with water to prepare his morning coffee. The water is clean and good because a liberal fought for minimum water-quality standards. With his first swallow of coffee, he takes his daily medication. His medications are safe to take because a liberal fought to insure their safety and that they work as advertised.

All but $10 of his medications are paid for by his employer’s medical plan because liberal union workers fought their employers for paid medical insurance - now Joe gets it too. He prepares his morning breakfast, bacon and eggs. Joe’s bacon is safe to eat because a liberal fought for laws to regulate the meat packing industry.

In the morning shower, Joe reaches for his shampoo. His bottle is properly labeled with each ingredient and its amount in the total contents because a liberal fought for his right to know what he was putting on his body and how much it contained. Joe dresses, walks outside and takes a deep breath. The air he breathes is clean because a liberal fought for laws to stop industries from polluting our air. He walks to the subway station for his government-subsidized ride to work. It saves him considerable money in parking and transportation fees because a liberal fought for affordable public transportation, which gives everyone the opportunity to be a contributor.

Joe begins his work day. He has a good job with excellent pay, medical benefits, retirement, paid holidays and vacation because liberal union members fought and died for these working standards. Joe’s employer pays these standards because Joe’s employer doesn’t want his employees to call the union. If Joe is hurt on the job or becomes unemployed, he’ll get a worker compensation or unemployment check because a liberal didn’t think he should lose his home because of his temporary misfortune. Its noontime and Joe needs to make a bank deposit so he can pay some bills. Joe’s deposit is federally insured by the FSLIC because a liberal wanted to protect Joe’s money from unscrupulous bankers who ruined the banking system before the Great Depression.

Joe has to pay his Fannie Mae-underwritten mortgage and his below-market federal student loan because a liberal decided that Joe and the government would be better off if he was educated and earned more money over his lifetime. Joe is home from work. He plans to visit his father this evening at his farm home in the country. He gets in his car for the drive. His car is among the safest in the world because a liberal fought for car safety standards. He arrives at his boyhood home. His was the third generation to live in the house financed by Farmers’ Home Administration because bankers didn’t want to make rural loans. The house didn’t have electricity until some big-government liberal stuck his nose where it didn’t belong and demanded rural electrification.

He is happy to see his father, who is now retired. His father lives on Social Security and a union pension because a liberal made sure he could take care of himself so Joe wouldn’t have to. Joe gets back in his car for the ride home, and turns on a radio talk show. The radio host keeps saying that liberals are bad and conservatives are good. He doesn’t mention that the beloved Republicans have fought against every protection and benefit Joe enjoys throughout his day. Joe agrees: “We don’t need those big-government liberals ruining our lives! After all, I’m a self-made man who believes everyone should take care of themselves, just like I have.

some leftys are very good (Hi Skippy), others are very bad (gidday monk).

Joe Republican drinks coffee and eats bacon and eggs because people make a profit from growing, harvesting, storing and delivering them all to him.
It's sort of a right wing thing.

they found that poisoning their customers is bad for business too.

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jul 5^th, 2010 at 10:31am:

some leftys are very good (Hi Skippy), others are very bad (gidday monk). Joe Republican drinks coffee and eats bacon and eggs because people make a profit from growing, harvesting, storing and delivering them all to him. It's sort of a right wing thing. they found that poisoning their customers is bad for business too.

Yes to try but another rightard little bit further removed than the restaurant/supermarket owner say the guy who grows the crops that are fed to the pigs decides to use a chemical thats cheap & increases yield but does not breakdown, concentrates itself in the pork fat & is harmful to humans.
Over the course of 1 or 2 years eating some yummy bacon once a month Joe suddenly feels ill & dies because of this harmful chemical in his body, but the grain grower made an extra couple of 1000, in a perfect rightard world this would be acceptable because it would be the grain growers right to use whatever the hell he pleases on his crops to maximize his profits. ;)

and in a few years time hte cause of joes demise is discovered.
The crop growing farmer or chemical manufacturer is sued massive amounts and noone uses it again.

neither a lefty or righty scenario.
using either basis, the cheaper untested chemicals is a bad move for the manufacturter/cropgrower, esp for Joe.

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jul 5^th, 2010 at 12:15pm:

and in a few years time hte cause of joes demise is discovered. The crop growing farmer or chemical manufacturer is sued massive amounts and noone uses it again. neither a lefty or righty scenario. using either basis, the cheaper untested chemicals is a bad move for the manufacturter/cropgrower, esp for Joe.

Are you sure?
Everyone's making money no problem there
So why in a world were money is the indicator of self worth would there be an investigation into poor old pleb Joe's death?
He's just a worker plenty more of them.

not everyones making money. someones been wronged.
there are lawyers who will ensure the guilty party will pay.
And the lawyer will get a fee as well.

Thanks for sharing, SC. You're very brave.

Mind you, you didn't own up to being a rightard. Now that would be courageous.

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jul 5^th, 2010 at 2:40pm:

not everyones making money. someones been wronged. there are lawyers who will ensure the guilty party will pay. And the lawyer will get a fee as well.

Chemical manufacturer is getting his money
Chemical sellers getting his
Transporter getting his
Grower getting his
Transporter again
Pig farmer getting his
Yep Transporter
Abattoir & smoking factories getting their money
Meat supplier getting his
Transport again, bloody hell the Oil companies & truck suppliers are doing well(I wont go through all the miners,steelworks & manufacturers of parts for transport ;D)
Restaurant getting theirs

The only person NOT getting any money is Joe who is paying for all of the above to get their cuts.Again in a world where Money is the only factor of importance & everything else i.e regulation/environment (classic rightard whinges) play 2nd fiddle to it it is going to take a hell of a lot of Joe's before anyone rocks the boat.

Who's Joe?






Kidding.

karnal - oh yes, I'm a rightard !!!!!!

many people view rightardism in much too narrow a field.
take smithys scenario as an example .......

smithy - the chemical manufacturer will be getting and extra profit.
the seller maybe.
the transporter not. he was transporting the old chemical anyway.
the grower very indirectly, and he'll rue that decision.
transporter again not.
pig farmer probably not, and he may well rue that decision.
abattoir and smoking factories and meat supplier definitley not.

noone else downstream would even be aware, let alone benefitting.

there are  alot of of other things to consider, that a quick profit today.
ask anyone who runs a small business, the long term goal is the important criteria.
happy customers make good businesses.
that's a righty thing.

What is the differece between the left and the right side of of Australian politics?
Here is what Pilger said.

This is what John Pilger wrote in his book “The new rulers of the world”, on page 175.  


Like Britain and the US, Australia is a single-ideology state with two competing factions, discernible largely by the personalities of their politicians. The difference between the Howard’s conservative coalition and the opposition Labor Party is that Howard’s policies are not veiled. The Labor governments of the 1980s and early 1990s oversaw the greatest redistribution of wealth in the country’s history: from bottom to top. They were Thatcherite and Reaganite in all but name. Indeed, Tony Blair described then Prime Minister Keating as his ‘inspiration’.

Pilger. Nuf said.

hawil wrote on Jul 10^th, 2010 at 5:29pm:

Like Britain and the US, Australia is a single-ideology state with two competing factions, discernible largely by the personalities of their politicians. The difference between the Howard’s conservative coalition and the opposition Labor Party is that Howard’s policies are not veiled.

Enough said, but I'll add that Lenin said pretty much the exact same thing in the early 1900s.

What have the Unions done for workers in Australia?
Paid Annual Leave, paid sick leave, OH&S, legal representation for workers, fair pay and conditions, the list goes on.
Everyone today reaps the benefits of the hard work and sacrifices of past union members and we all take those benefits for granted.
Australians are amongst the hardest working people in the world so the benefits union member fought for have not made us into lazy communists, in fact the opposite has happened.