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Title: OVERSEAS students earning as little as $5 an hour Post by imcrookonit on Sep 9th, 2010 at 6:28pm
OVERSEAS students are earning as little as $5 an hour to work in restaurant and cleaning jobs across Adelaide, community leaders say.
Indian Australian Association of SA president Vikram Madan said more than 50 students had told him they were being underpaid over the past year, including some who getting as little as $5 an hour. He said the problem was “endemic” and mainly affected students studying at vocational colleges and those without strong English skills. “Our own Indian restaurants are exploiting some of these students,” Mr Madan said. “Some have used people for two weeks and don’t pay them a dime.” He said some restaurants encouraged students to work for free on a “trial basis” before telling them they were unsuitable for the job. Some were working for cleaning companies or as waiters and kitchen hands in restaurants in the city and western suburbs. Mr Madan said students stayed in low paying jobs out of “desperation to earn some money to survive”. Indian Community Radio chair Vinaya Rai said Indian, Chinese, Korean and Sri Lankan students had told her they were getting paid as little as $6 an hour to work in restaurants. Many turned to Asian restaurants after struggling to find employment elsewhere, she said. “They think if they complain or leave, they’re being ungrateful to that employer,” Mrs Rai said. “They’re quite vulnerable and don’t know their rights or the system. They just want to settle in. “I tell them to either make a complaint or use this experience to move on to a job somewhere else. If they don’t make a complaint, there’s not much we can do.” Shady bosses keep using Indian students OVERSEAS students working as part-time shop cleaners are being paid well below award rates, their union says. Shady bosses are exploiting the mostly Indian students by paying them as little as $12 an hour compared with the going rate of $18.43. The Weekly Times Messenger understands some cleaners are paid even less than $12 an hour. Liquor Hospitality and Miscellaneous Union SA Branch Secretary David Di Troia said its organisers had discovered student cleaners, working under contractors in small to medium suburban supermarkets, being paid well under the award rate. ``The general trend is that the exploitation is targeted towards international students, or partners of students, in the suburban commercial cleaning sector who are employed by subcontractors and are on temporary visas,’’ Mr Di Troia said. As well as underpayment, other issues included ``unpaid training and work, cash in hand work and inadequate health and safety’‘, he said. The LHMU launched an ongoing campaign targeting underpayment in the cleaning industry in 2006, but says international students are easily exploited because of language barriers and a lack of understanding of their rights. |
Title: Re: OVERSEAS students earning as little as $5 an hour Post by Deborahmac09 on Sep 9th, 2010 at 6:32pm
and half of that goes in tax. There is no tax free threshold for non residents.
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Title: Re: OVERSEAS students earning as little as $5 an hour Post by adelcrow on Sep 9th, 2010 at 6:40pm
If the LHMU is handling the issue then the students are doomed to failure,
they would be better off forming their own union rather than relying on one of the weakest and most inept unions in the country. |
Title: Re: OVERSEAS students earning as little as $5 an hour Post by Deborahmac09 on Sep 9th, 2010 at 6:53pm
29% not half, sorry.
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Title: Re: OVERSEAS students earning as little as $5 an hour Post by Soren on Sep 9th, 2010 at 6:56pm
To get a student visa you must demonstrate
"your capacity to cover the cost of air fares, course fees and living costs for the duration of your stay in Australia " WITHOUT NEEDING TO WORK IN AUSTRALIA. Evidentiary requirements Key requirements include: • your capacity to cover the cost of air fares, course tuition fees and living costs for the duration of your stay in Australia. Your living costs in Australia are set at AUD18,000 pa. The period for which you must provide evidence of funds, the type of funds considered acceptable, and the savings period for funds may vary with your assessment level and education sector of study. Living costs are a minimum amount set for visa purposes. Living costs vary depending on where you will be living and studying. It is your responsibility to determine what your own costs will be to live and study in Australia. Even if you have permission to work you should not rely on work to support yourself in Australia as a student ; • your capacity to cover the cost of air fares, living costs and school tuition costs for your family unit members for the duration of your stay in Australia. Living costs for family members are set at AUD6,300 for your partner, AUD3,600 for your first child and AUD2,700 for each child thereafter. School costs are set at AUD8,000 pa. Except in very limited circumstances, you are required to provide this evidence regardless of whether your family members intend to accompany you to Australia; • demonstrating and/or providing evidence in your application that the funds you are relying on will genuinely be available to you during your stay in Australia. • your level of English language proficiency in relation to that required for your assessment level and education sector of study. Where an English language test result is required, it must be an ‘accepted test’ and you must sit this test prior to making your visa application; • the situation in your home country eg. personal or financial commitments that may prompt you to return to your home country; • your academic record and qualifications completed; • your immigration history eg. previous compliance with immigration laws and whether you have previously applied for entry to Australia. Detailed information on requirements can be found on the department’s website. http://www.immi.gov.au/allforms/pdf/applying-student.pdf |
Title: Re: OVERSEAS students earning as little as $5 an hour Post by bobbythebat1 on Sep 9th, 2010 at 7:38pm
There we have it.
Slavery alive & well in Australia. |
Title: Re: OVERSEAS students earning as little as $5 an hour Post by thelastnail on Sep 9th, 2010 at 7:49pm Bobby. wrote on Sep 9th, 2010 at 7:38pm:
The foreign students can't wait to come here to participate in the most enviable economy of the world ;) |
Title: Re: OVERSEAS students earning as little as $5 an hour Post by Soren on Sep 9th, 2010 at 8:18pm Bobby. wrote on Sep 9th, 2010 at 7:38pm:
I really hope that your post makes sense to you. It's you or nobody. |
Title: Re: OVERSEAS students earning as little as $5 an hour Post by Mnemonic on Sep 9th, 2010 at 9:34pm Bobby. wrote on Sep 9th, 2010 at 7:38pm:
They're volunteers. :D |
Title: Re: OVERSEAS students earning as little as $5 an hour Post by qikvtec on Sep 9th, 2010 at 9:46pm
They're working illegally, they have no IR rights.
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Title: Re: OVERSEAS students earning as little as $5 an hour Post by freediver on Sep 9th, 2010 at 10:28pm Deborahmac09 wrote on Sep 9th, 2010 at 6:32pm:
So this is above the table? |
Title: Re: OVERSEAS students earning as little as $5 an hour Post by chicken_lipsforme on Sep 10th, 2010 at 11:16am
It's called 'Enterprise Bargaining'.
The students could have said 'No'. |
Title: Re: OVERSEAS students earning as little as $5 an hour Post by perceptions_now on Sep 10th, 2010 at 11:38am
I am not quite sure, how all this relates to Politicians Suck?
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Title: Re: OVERSEAS students earning as little as $5 an hour Post by culldav on Sep 10th, 2010 at 11:43am
More to this story than meets the eye.
Award wages and enterprise bargining comes to mind. Why did they take the jobs if they didn't like the wages? maybe they could find higher paying jobs in their own countries, and they can all go home. |
Title: Re: OVERSEAS students earning as little as $5 an hour Post by djrbfm on Sep 11th, 2010 at 12:49am
hi,
got to report and confirm similar is happening in good old Burwood, NSW. (Wog Central) an example: one family run restaurant will hire a casual or back packer and the next week, they are gone. there is a hub of staff but they are mainly the family members. every time trade goes down these casuals are gone. any others that are kept on are family friends. not that there's much wrong with this on the surface. but, in general, the food is second rate, the staff over service customers attempting to push more thru. they stand on the street outside and try to grab ppl in. i'd suggest that this place and a number of others hedge tax by, only list their family members as staff, paying these casuals cash - and not declaring it. i now will only go there for coffee, 'cos it's cheaper and pretty good. they lost me on the food when i arrived home the other night with stomach cramps - third time's a charm. Burwood has a corrupt inadequate council and mayor. otherwise regular health inspection would be taking place. j. |
Title: Re: OVERSEAS students earning as little as $5 an hour Post by mellie on Sep 11th, 2010 at 12:56am wrote on Sep 9th, 2010 at 6:28pm:
Look, our media are lying to these people, are not telling the truth about our grave employment figures...in Australia, you could work 2 hours a fortnight, and you would be counted in among the 95% employed...we need to start being honest with our more educated immigrants who deserve a better start than this. This country is only suitable for refugees who's lives are at risk...this or are happy to live on welfare. Simple as that. We are far from the lucky country, and our 18 to 40% youth unemployment figures tell the story, and it's far time we were honest with people, this opposed to expecting international educated people to arrive here and some how make it, only to realise the costs of living far outweigh the gains of having started over. 10, 15 years ago, perhaps...but things have dramatically changed. If we cant even gain, what hope in hell do they have? ::) Unless they are happy to serve drinks (seasonal) for $5 an hour off-the books, this or work in a local mushroom farm. It's just the way it is. Yes, we are fast becoming Detroit USA...only with a higher infant death mortality, so I'm told. |
Title: Re: OVERSEAS students earning as little as $5 an hour Post by mellie on Sep 11th, 2010 at 1:05am
Truth is, our international full-fee paying students are what's propping up our economy, so this is why we are happy to make room.
Trouble is, once they get here, this and realise being a prostitute or mushroom picker isn't so crash hot, they finish their degree, then go home. We cant even convince Indian officials this is the right climate...sheeesh, and they just love our cricket. What went so terribly wrong? Why do they (the educated ones) leave within months of having arrived after having lived in squalid cramped and over-priced accommodation they could pay half the price for back home? Pretty soon, we will require boarder control to stop people leaving, or have I spoken too soon? :o |
Title: Re: OVERSEAS students earning as little as $5 an hour Post by Amadd on Sep 11th, 2010 at 4:32am Quote:
I think the name that they give it is capitalism |
Title: Re: OVERSEAS students earning as little as $5 an hour Post by djrbfm on Sep 11th, 2010 at 2:01pm mellie wrote on Sep 11th, 2010 at 1:05am:
yup, they are not interested in us. just our knowledge base. and your last paragraph is so true, thank you. j. |
Title: Re: OVERSEAS students earning as little as $5 an hour Post by djrbfm on Sep 11th, 2010 at 10:47pm
ever tried to start your own business here?
especially now, in the last 10-15yrs or so. i wouldn't even try, although through my career i've a number of successful ones. that was then,this is now. it's so much easier to fiddle books if you run the show and are not working for a wage. the tax dept hates this, obviously. so, support is very low for this now. ever tried to get venture capital from a bank or other legit sources? no chance, charlie. why no film or music industry her anymore? well, anyone who runs something like these can actually put ANY FIGURE THEY LIKE on the product as personal compensation after profit figures are gathered, which can take years. this is overly simplified i know, but say a film grossed $15mil. the product will then put another coupla mil on as personal fees and that film shows a loss. plenty of smaller Hollywood films have see the light of day as tax write-offs to off-set profits from a huge summer blockbuster hit. j. |
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