Palestinians killed by Israeli tank fire

Sunday 12 September 2010 21.03 BST

At least three Palestinians have been killed and five wounded by Israeli tank fire in the northern Gaza Strip, according to Hamas security officials.

One report said that a 91-year-old man and his 33-year-old grandson were among the dead.

Militants in the Gaza Strip, which is controlled by Hamas, fired a rocket into Israel earlier in the day but there were no reports of casualties or damage.

Israel claims Palestinians have been trying to infiltrate or plant explosives along Gaza's border with Israel. Palestinians say Israel is enforcing a wide no-go zone in Gaza, and that soldiers open fire on farmers and other civilians who enter.

Source: The Guardian

Militants in the Gaza Strip, which is controlled by Hamas, fired a rocket into Israel earlier in the day




This MUST have something to do with the story. Abu, any idea?

So because some Palestinians want to liberate their homes, farms and towns from the Zionist occupation, and lob overgrown firecrackers at the squatters who are polluting them, it's justification for blowing a 91 yo. man to smithereens?

You're a fricken moron you know that????

abu_rashid wrote on Sep 13^th, 2010 at 11:11pm:

it's justification for blowing a 91 yo. man to smithereens?

ARe you saying that they actually targeted that particular duo, the  91 year old man and his 33 year old grandson?

Would it be the first time? Dissenting ex-soldiers have openly admitted doing it before. And even if they didn't, the fact they shot indiscriminately at civilians is the same, if not worse.

Regardless, it's a waste of time pointing his out for the likes of you, since in your warped little world, muslim-dead = thumbs up, muslim-killing = thumbs down. You have two completely different sets of judgements to pass depending upon the religion of the perpetrator and the victim.

Your moral compass is bunged up, you can deny that to me, but not to yourself.

abu_rashid wrote on Sep 13^th, 2010 at 8:28pm:

Palestinians killed by Israeli tank fire Sunday 12 September 2010 21.03 BST At least three Palestinians have been killed and five wounded by Israeli tank fire in the northern Gaza Strip, according to Hamas security officials. One report said that a 91-year-old man and his 33-year-old grandson were among the dead. Militants in the Gaza Strip, which is controlled by Hamas, fired a rocket into Israel earlier in the day but there were no reports of casualties or damage. Israel claims Palestinians have been trying to infiltrate or plant explosives along Gaza's border with Israel. Palestinians say Israel is enforcing a wide no-go zone in Gaza, and that soldiers open fire on farmers and other civilians who enter. Source: The Guardian

Mmmmmmmm, I wonder if Hamas terrorists firing rockets into Israel might have something to do with it Abu.
Perhaps Israel should not retaliate and pretend that terrorists aren't attacking them?

abu_rashid wrote on Sep 13^th, 2010 at 11:11pm:

So because some Palestinians want to liberate their homes, farms and towns from the Zionist occupation, and lob overgrown firecrackers at the squatters who are polluting them, it's justification for blowing a 91 yo. man to smithereens? You're a fricken moron you know that????

Do you have information that suggests that the average 20 - 30 year old terrorist owns homes, farms or towns in Israel?
Somehow I think not.
The only thing they own is the pile of camel dung they live in.
These terrorists live in Gaza, that's where their home is.
And the Israeli's left Gaza in 2005.
Their just terrorist scum Abu, who fires there missiles with old men and children nearby and then runs away before the Israeli's respond.
But the old men and children don't run away do they Abu.
These Hamas cowards fire their rockets with these people around knowing what the predictable response will be, and wanting as many casualties as the Israeli's can produce.
They choose the firing point, they choose the time of attack.
They are in control of the situation right up until they press the trigger, and then they run away with their tail between their legs.
So this has nothing to do with Zionists murdering Palestinian civilians, and absolutely everything to do with the IDF's correct and legal rapid response to terrorism carried out within Israel.

Many Gazans are refugees from surrounding areas that were occupied to form the illegal settlement complex that is Israel.

Ismael Haniyyah for instance was born in a refugee camp in Gaza to parents who were expelled from their home in al-Majdal or what is today the illegal Israeli settlement of Ashkelon.

Compare that to Netanyahu, who was born to Polish parents from Warsaw, and grew up half his childhood in the U.S.A.

Quite obvious which one is the native, and which one is the invader.

abu_rashid wrote on Sep 14^th, 2010 at 8:31am:

Many Gazans are refugees from surrounding areas that were occupied to form the illegal settlement complex that is Israel. Ismael Haniyyah for instance was born in a refugee camp in Gaza to parents who were expelled from their home in al-Majdal or what is today the illegal Israeli settlement of Ashkelon. Compare that to Netanyahu, who was born to Polish parents from Warsaw, and grew up half his childhood in the U.S.A. Quite obvious which one is the native, and which one is the invader.

What is this fascination for Ismael Haniyyah???? You mention him by name in every thread....

abu_rashid wrote on Sep 14^th, 2010 at 8:31am:

Many Gazans are refugees from surrounding areas that were occupied to form the illegal settlement complex that is Israel. Ismael Haniyyah for instance was born in a refugee camp in Gaza to parents who were expelled from their home in al-Majdal or what is today the illegal Israeli settlement of Ashkelon. Compare that to Netanyahu, who was born to Polish parents from Warsaw, and grew up half his childhood in the U.S.A. Quite obvious which one is the native, and which one is the invader.

The genie is out of the bottle Abu, and won't go back in no matter how much it is wished for.
The State of Israel has been in existance for 62 years, and was born in a mixture of fire, blood and iron.
The Jews are going no-where, and have history with the land going back 3500 years.
Judea is named after the Jews hence the name, not the Palestinians.
History shows us Jewish Armies fought the Romans three times for Independance in the first and second century AD, and now they have it.
And all the Palestinian lepers wailing and Katyusha rockets fired at the women and children of Israel in the world cant ever change that.

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And all the Palestinian lepers wailing and Katyusha rockets fired at the women and children of Israel in the world cant ever change that.

But the slaughter of women and children in Gaza is okay?

Annie Anthrax wrote on Sep 14^th, 2010 at 10:41am:

Quote: And all the Palestinian lepers wailing and Katyusha rockets fired at the women and children of Israel in the world cant ever change that. But the slaughter of women and children in Gaza is okay?

Of course not, but the Israeli's hardly have control over Hamas or other extremists activities.
Hamas chooses the battleground, Hamas chooses the time of attack.
And above all, Hamas wants high civilian casualties otherwise they would not do what they do.
But expecting Israel not to respond to such aggression is unrealistic as no country in that situation would ever do so.
Perhaps you should ask why the Palestinians are treated even worse by their Muslim brothers, but the worlds media and Palestinian supporters pretend this doesn't happen.
Slaughtered in the 10's of 1000's by the Jordanians during Black September of 1970.
Treated as low paid Coolies by the Saudi's, Mass deportation last year by the Iraqi's, Shot at by the Egyptians, Dual passports torn up by the Jordanians, Held in camps along with prohibitive employment restrictions by the Lebanese, the list goes on.
The Egyptians even assist Israel in maintaining the embargo on Gaza.
This isn't ancient history, this is occuring right now.
Are you aware that many of the civilian casualties in Gaza during Operation Cast Lead were from terrorists who couldn't get away fast enough, or Gaza policemen who have a dual combat role within the terrorist ranks.
But these people were counted as 'civilians', even though they engaged in combat operations against Israel.
And yes, there were real civilian casualties but when in any war isn't there.
And especially since Hamas is orchestrating the event.
These people are the lepers of the Muslim world, you might like to ask yourself why.

I didn't defend the Arab countries. I find their collective governments even more appalling than Israel's.

Annie Anthrax wrote on Sep 14^th, 2010 at 11:51am:

I didn't defend the Arab countries. I find their collective governments even more appalling than Israel's.

Well generally speaking, the closer these Arab countries are to the Palestinans, the more appalling they are.
You still might like to ask yourself "Why is it so".
How can it be that a 'people' as a collective who were not heard of before 1948, can evoke such a reaction from so many Muslim countries is such a short space of time.

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You still might like to ask yourself "Why is it so".

Don't be condescending. I know why it's so.


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How can it be that a 'people' as a collective who were not heard of before 1948, can evoke such a reaction from so many Muslim countries is such a short space of time

If you mean Israel, surely you're joking.

Annie Anthrax wrote on Sep 14^th, 2010 at 12:16pm:

Quote: You still might like to ask yourself "Why is it so". Don't be condescending. I know why it's so. [quote]How can it be that a 'people' as a collective who were not heard of before 1948, can evoke such a reaction from so many Muslim countries is such a short space of time

If you mean Israel, surely you're joking.[/quote]


I was talking about the Palestinians.

Annie Anthrax wrote on Sep 14^th, 2010 at 12:16pm:

Quote: You still might like to ask yourself "Why is it so". Don't be condescending. I know why it's so.

Why IS it so?

Why is it that the regimes closest to the Palestinians are the most appaling?

Your aid money goes up in smoke:



GAZA CITY — The Hamas regime was believed to have torched a new water park in the Gaza Strip.

Palestinian sources said about 25 gunmen stormed Crazy Water Park and set the entertainment facility on fire. They said the masked attackers, believed to be members of Hamas's secret security units, beat and bound the two guards before pouring gasoline and torching the main buildings and tents on Sept. 19.
"The number of gunmen and the professional way they destroyed the park could only be the work of Hamas," a Palestinian source said.


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Crazy Water Park was regarded as the most popular resort in the Gaza Strip. But in August, amid complaints by Muslim clerics of mixing of the sexes, Hamas began to crack down on the facility, used largely by middle-income Palestinians as well as employees of non-governmental organizations.



Uh-oh.

Soren wrote on Sep 21^st, 2010 at 12:04pm:

Your aid money goes up in smoke: GAZA CITY — The Hamas regime was believed to have torched a new water park in the Gaza Strip. Palestinian sources said about 25 gunmen stormed Crazy Water Park and set the entertainment facility on fire. They said the masked attackers, believed to be members of Hamas's secret security units, beat and bound the two guards before pouring gasoline and torching the main buildings and tents on Sept. 19. "The number of gunmen and the professional way they destroyed the park could only be the work of Hamas," a Palestinian source said. ... Crazy Water Park was regarded as the most popular resort in the Gaza Strip. But in August, amid complaints by Muslim clerics of mixing of the sexes, Hamas began to crack down on the facility, used largely by middle-income Palestinians as well as employees of non-governmental organizations. Uh-oh.

I guess the thought of a western style amusement establishment in downtown extremist controlled Gaza City was too much for the fun police to let slide.
I'm surprised Hamas didn't try to pin that one on the Israeli's.