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Title: The Social Contract Post by locutius on Nov 11th, 2010 at 5:09pm
Ok. This is the philosophy board in a political forum. This topic seems a perfect place to start.
While the origins of the Social Contract are speculative or imagined to be informal. I think it is one of our most powerful political concepts and there have been many attempts to formalise the Social Contract. There are Constitutions, Bill of Rights, the Magna Carta etc etc. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_contract Quote:
It has been spoken about by many of the great philosophers such as Socrates (attributed), Hobbes, probably most famously by Rousseau, John Locke, and in modern times by one of the most important contributors to the subject John Rawls in his Theory of Justice. Socrates cites it as one of the reasons he refuses to escape death when the opportunity was offered..http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socrates Quote:
Hobbs http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_contract#Thomas_Hobbes.27s_Leviathan_.281651.29 Quote:
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Title: Re: The Social Contract Post by locutius on Nov 11th, 2010 at 5:14pm
Rousseau http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_contract#Thomas_Hobbes.27s_Leviathan_.281651.29
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Rawls Quote:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Theory_of_Justice#The_First_Principle_of_Justice Quote:
Just posting here to start things off, but will add some other things including my own ideas. And other thinkers on this subject. |
Title: Re: The Social Contract Post by Time on Nov 12th, 2010 at 5:31pm
An alternative view of the origins of the social contract by Nietzsche from On the Genealogy of Morals, essay 2, section 17.
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Title: Re: The Social Contract Post by hawil on Nov 15th, 2010 at 8:31pm
The First Principle of Justice
“ First: each person is to have an equal right to the most extensive scheme of equal basic liberties compatible with a similar scheme of liberties for others.” The Second Principle of Justice Social and economic inequalities are to be arranged so that (Rawls, 1971, p.303): a) they are to be of the greatest benefit to the least-advantaged members of society (the difference principle). b) offices and positions must be open to everyone under conditions of fair equality of opportunity I wish that the a)and b) Principle of Justice wouls be more prevalent in the Society. The Social Contract is definitely heavy reading. |
Title: Re: The Social Contract Post by freediver on Nov 15th, 2010 at 9:47pm
Isn't a) basically socialism?
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Title: Re: The Social Contract Post by locutius on Nov 16th, 2010 at 1:56pm freediver wrote on Nov 15th, 2010 at 9:47pm:
I believe Rawls would have said no. His concern was to develop Just relationships between Individuals and the State. The things that would be rationally surrendered in return for official obligation. He has made a statement that is essentially concerned with Justice. Justifying Socialism was not the intention but Rawl's was renowned for giving intellectual credit to other thinkers that was almost unprecedented, and his sources were very wide. That would have included extensive reading from "socialist" and utilitarian thinkers. |
Title: Re: The Social Contract Post by freediver on Nov 16th, 2010 at 10:38pm
Would he have been wrong when he said no?
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Title: Re: The Social Contract Post by Jasignature on Nov 21st, 2010 at 4:59am
Does a Social Contract only work with Politics or a Governing Body??
What if in Australia, the entire Political system goes broke and has to do sexual favours to get anywhere ...while the country is developed by a Privatised Art Company that pumps out mass visualisations and other art projects around the world, along with a Company based upon Fashion (spirituality). In essence, Australia has become a giant version of Minoa in the ancient Mediterrean? |
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