This is a riot, nothing like the numbskull yanks to provide a barrel of laughs. And half you hicks here aren't that far behind them.

I actually remember quite a few years back when a Maronite Christian church got vandalised with anti-Islamic graffiti in Sydney, because obviously the knuckle dragging goons who did it couldn't read the big sign in English that said "CHURCH", they just saw the Arabic writing and that was it.

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Church in Arizona protested because it looks like a mosque

Islamophobia may have reached a point in this country where people condemn Christians that they suspect are Muslims without ever checking the facts.

In Phoenix, Arizona, a new Christian church has residents fearing that it is an Islamic mosque.

The Light of the World multidenominational church is being built just off of Interstate 10 and features a dome-like structure.

"Since the distinctive dome shape went up, church leaders said they have received phone calls from concerned neighbors who've mistaken the building for an Islamic mosque," KPHO reported.

"I heard many people, they came over and they say, 'Is this a Muslim temple?' No, it's not," church member Juan Calixto told KPNX.

"It is unfortunate that people are so intolerant to differences that they aren’t willing to see that the place of worship is not a mosque," said Tayyibah Amatullah of the Council on American-Islamic Relations’ Arizona chapter.

Church officials have hung a sign to let people know they aren't Muslim. "If you think we are different you are wrong," the sign reads. "We are building a Christian house of prayer."

http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/churchdome3.jpg

"We're trying to let people know that we're Christian and our churches are modern," Uzieo Martinez, a church official told KPHO.

Officials are trying to avoid the type of backlash received by the Park51 Islamic center that is planned near Ground Zero.

The cultural center was largely ignored when The New York Times first reported about it in December 2009.

The project received wider notice in May 2010 when a community board considered the construction plans. Conservative bloggers Pamela Geller and Robert Spencer dubbed the proposed center the "Ground Zero Mosque" which started a national controversy.

"But with so many high-profile figures selling unfounded, anti-Muslim fear to the public, is it any wonder that all many Americans can see in Islam is a phantom menace?" asked Tanya Somanader at the liberal blog Think Progress.

Source: Raw Story

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And half you hicks here aren't that far behind them.

What's it like being a member of the culture of critique, Abu?

Do you do nothing else here except dispense insults to most of the memberbase and track down articles of Westerners behaving badly?

Why don't you move to Iran, buddy? I'll gladly pay your fare.

As I've mentioned before, I'm not too fond of the Iranian weather.

I'll buy you an airconditioner and a central heating unit.

My friend's dad works in the business.

..And I'm scared of earthquakes.

I'll make you a house made of wood. They don't fall over.

I used to be afraid of earthquakes too but now I'm Imperium of the Rising Sun. I'm a changed man, frien.

abu_rashid wrote on Nov 17^th, 2010 at 9:09pm:

This is a riot, nothing like the numbskull yanks to provide a barrel of laughs. And half you hicks here aren't that far behind them. I actually remember quite a few years back when a Maronite Christian church got vandalised with anti-Islamic graffiti in Sydney, because obviously the knuckle dragging goons who did it couldn't read the big sign in English that said "CHURCH", they just saw the Arabic writing and that was it.

Well, at the rate you guys are killing off the Christians in 'your Muslim lands', who is surprised that in ordinary people's minds Arab = insufferable crazy Muslim.

Another side splitter. Islamophobia is definitely a disease of the demented.

Hate overcomes all [reason].

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MONDAY, JUN 7, 2010 19:10 ET
"Ground Zero Mosque" protest ends up, predictably, with racially-motivated hatred
Don't call these patriots bigots just because they harassed some Egyptian men for looking like Muslims
BY ALEX PAREENE

People in New York protest the proposed construction of a mosque near the World Trade Center site on Sunday, June 6.
There was a protest yesterday, attended by various wingnuts, racists, riled-up nativists, and terrified fools, of the supposed "Ground Zero mosque." (It will not be at Ground Zero, and it will actually be a community center that will include a mosque. But still.)

While national conservatives have picked up the ball, what local opposition there is to the proposed community center has been ginned up by Rupert Murdoch's New York Post -- mainly via perpetually outraged columnist Andrea Peyser, whose anti-mosque columns are regularly teased on the front page.

The entire anti-mosque campaign isn't about anything other than pure, paranoid Islamophobia. A Peyser column a few weeks ago was entirely about people in Sheepshead Bay -- some miles from Ground Zero -- protesting a proposed mosque solely because they're scared of Muslims.

Anyway, they had their protest yesterday. Mike Kelly of the Bergen (New Jersey) Record reported this heartwarming incident:

At one point, a portion of the crowd menacingly surrounded two Egyptian men who were speaking Arabic and were thought to be Muslims.

"Go home," several shouted from the crowd.

"Get out," others shouted.

In fact, the two men – Joseph Nassralla and Karam El Masry — were not Muslims at all. They turned out to be Egyptian Coptic Christians who work for a California-based Christian satellite TV station called "The Way." Both said they had come to protest the mosque.

"I'm a Christian," Nassralla shouted to the crowd, his eyes bulging and beads of sweat rolling down his face.

But it was no use. The protesters had become so angry at what they thought were Muslims that New York City police officers had to rush in and pull Nassralla and El Masry to safety.

"I flew nine hours in an airplane to come here," a frustrated Nassralla said afterward.

But don't you dare call these people bigots!

Source: Salon

I agree with Abu, irrational hatred of people based on appearances, or ill conceived ideas about their culture, is abhorrent.

We see it in a lot of communities, we see some Asians that are very prejudiced against other Asians, we see some Christians that are fanatically anti-Muslim, and some Muslims that are fanatically anti-Western, and they all can justify to themselves, why they consider their position, rational.

The simple truth is that we all have faults, and there are elements within most cultures that are worthy of disdain, but to expand that disdain to whole cultures is always wrong.
Not that long ago, we had many Aussies who hated all Japanese, with a passion, because of the war crimes committed by Japanese soldiers during WW2, but most normal people let go of the hatred, and forgive, so that everyone can move forward.
Any rationale for hatred, that relies upon holding onto historical enmities, sometimes dating back hundreds of years, is going to lead toward unnecessary division, when we could make much better decisions by putting the past behind us, and trying to deal with the issues of the day.

We can look to the turnaround we saw in Ireland, where hostilities had been going on for centuries, and then we saw a community led movement which said, enough was enough, it is time to let go of the past, bury our divisions, and move forward in peace.

They withdrew their support for the radicals and extremists who had made "The Struggle", the entire focus of their existence, and put their support behind peaceful dialogue and peaceful negotiations.

We need to emulate that lead from the Irish, when considering the conflict between Islam and The West, and just stop apportioning blame, and stop supporting extremism, no matter where it springs from.

mozzaok wrote on Nov 18^th, 2010 at 12:21pm:

I agree with Abu, irrational hatred of people based on appearances, or ill conceived ideas about their culture, is abhorrent. We see it in a lot of communities, we see some Asians that are very prejudiced against other Asians, we see some Christians that are fanatically anti-Muslim, and some Muslims that are fanatically anti-Western, and they all can justify to themselves, why they consider their position, rational. The simple truth is that we all have faults, and there are elements within most cultures that are worthy of disdain, but to expand that disdain to whole cultures is always wrong. Not that long ago, we had many Aussies who hated all Japanese, with a passion, because of the war crimes committed by Japanese soldiers during WW2, but most normal people let go of the hatred, and forgive, so that everyone can move forward. Any rationale for hatred, that relies upon holding onto historical enmities, sometimes dating back hundreds of years, is going to lead toward unnecessary division, when we could make much better decisions by putting the past behind us, and trying to deal with the issues of the day. We can look to the turnaround we saw in Ireland, where hostilities had been going on for centuries, and then we saw a community led movement which said, enough was enough, it is time to let go of the past, bury our divisions, and move forward in peace. They withdrew their support for the radicals and extremists who had made "The Struggle", the entire focus of their existence, and put their support behind peaceful dialogue and peaceful negotiations. We need to emulate that lead from the Irish, when considering the conflict between Islam and The West, and just stop apportioning blame, and stop supporting extremism, no matter where it springs from.

That!

seems the west does NOT want islam anywhere near us.
get the message ???

We don't like muslims.

How does that work for you ?

Mozza,

Not a bad post, but the thing which needs to stop is the warmongering and occupation and resource-pillaging. When this stops, there'd be no need for any of the conflict anyway.

I view the Islam/West conflict much like a big hungry bear, that just can't keep his paws out of the bees' honey. He just keeps going back for more, and each time he gets stung, he takes a swing at the bees and kills a dozen or so, and each bee that stings him is quite willing to sacrifice itself, just to get rid of this damned bear, knowing it's their last desperate hope for survival.

The only solution is for the bear to realise he can't have the honey, plain and simple. The bees will never cease stinging him, and really who could blame them?

mozzaok wrote on Nov 18^th, 2010 at 12:21pm:

Not that long ago, we had many Aussies who hated all Japanese, with a passion, because of the war crimes committed by Japanese soldiers during WW2, but most normal people let go of the hatred, and forgive, so that everyone can move forward.

;D

Geez you're hilarious!

They didn't forgive... They died of old age!

You really think the Russians have forgiven the Germans?

Or the Poles forgiven the Russians and the Germans? (Apparently they don't mind the Austrians!)

Will Shia's ever forgive Sunnis?

The Orthodox Church the Catholic Church?

The Jews, the Germans?

The Palestinians the Israelis?

The Israelis the Palestinians?

The Pakistanis the Indians?

Cynic.

:) :) :)

abu_rashid wrote on Nov 18^th, 2010 at 7:06am:

Another side splitter. Islamophobia is definitely a disease of the demented. Hate overcomes all [reason].

Asia Bibi, a mother of five children, is accused of insulting the Prophet Mohammed.
She hasd been sentenced to death after a mob of angry villagers, spurred on by clerics, tried to attack the 45-year-old over a dispute about whether a Christian should be allowed to handle a container filled with drinking water for Muslims.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/pakistan/8142127/Pope-Benedict-XVI-calls-for-release-of-Christian-sentenced-to-hang-in-Pakistan.html



Charlie don't surf, Muslims and modernity don't mix.

abu_rashid wrote on Nov 17^th, 2010 at 9:09pm:

This is a riot, nothing like the numbskull yanks Mohammedans to provide a barrel of laughs. And half all you hicks Aussie convert Musulmans here aren't that far behind them.

Pakistan mosque shootout wounds 18 over dispute which cleric should lead holiday prayers
By Abdul Sattar (CP) – 1 day ago

QUETTA, Pakistan — A shootout inside a mosque in southwestern Pakistan wounded 18 people Wednesday in a dispute over who should lead prayers for one of Islam's most important holidays, police said.



;D ;D ;D

Soren wrote on Nov 19^th, 2010 at 1:44pm:

abu_rashid wrote on Nov 17th, 2010 at 9:09pm: This is a riot, nothing like the numbskull yanks Mohammedans to provide a barrel of laughs. And half all you hicks Aussie convert Musulmans here aren't that far behind them. Pakistan mosque shootout wounds 18 over dispute which cleric should lead holiday prayers By Abdul Sattar (CP) – 1 day ago QUETTA, Pakistan — A shootout inside a mosque in southwestern Pakistan wounded 18 people Wednesday in a dispute over who should lead prayers for one of Islam's most important holidays, police said. ;D ;D ;D

I hope they managed to get that little issue sorted out then.

The fat wog said to the skinny wog, 'I am holier than thou!'
The skinny wog said, "No, I'm holier than thou''
'No, me!'
'No, me'
"Chk-Chk Boom"
"Chk-Chk Boom"



(continued down the centuries)

They're just highly strung.

Soren wrote on Nov 19^th, 2010 at 1:44pm:

abu_rashid wrote on Nov 17th, 2010 at 9:09pm: This is a riot, nothing like the numbskull yanks Mohammedans to provide a barrel of laughs. And half all you hicks Aussie convert Musulmans here aren't that far behind them. Pakistan mosque shootout wounds 18 over dispute which cleric should lead holiday prayers By Abdul Sattar (CP) – 1 day ago QUETTA, Pakistan — A shootout inside a mosque in southwestern Pakistan wounded 18 people Wednesday in a dispute over who should lead prayers for one of Islam's most important holidays, police said. ;D ;D ;D

These rock apes really do belong in the cambrian era. Give me plenty of amo FFS. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Yes, that will surely make things better, we can stereotype all muslims as gun toting fanatics, then some muslim can take a clip of drunken yobs behaving like boy scouts on crack, and they can say all westerners are like that, and we can reinforce the blind hatred for each other.

If they didn't want to remake our society in their image, none of this would make the news. So don't get all soppy and even handed over something that is neither soppy nor even handed.

We want to remake your society in our image?

I'm sorry but it's the forces of democracy/secularism that are imposing themselves on al-Quds, Baghdad & Kabul, not the other way 'round!

mozzaok wrote on Nov 20^th, 2010 at 7:23pm:

Yes, that will surely make things better, we can stereotype all muslims as gun toting fanatics, then some muslim can take a clip of drunken yobs behaving like boy scouts on crack, and they can say all westerners are like that, and we can reinforce the blind hatred for each other.

You're back on the bong, then?

2.. 3... 4...

Imagine there's no heaven... easy if you try...

abu_rashid wrote on Nov 20^th, 2010 at 10:54pm:

the forces of democracy/secularism

;D ;D

Shaytan!!!!

abu_rashid wrote on Nov 18^th, 2010 at 7:06am:

Another side splitter. Islamophobia is definitely a disease of the demented. Hate overcomes all [reason].

Muslim religious leaders in Pakistan are urging President Asif Ali Zardari not to pardon Asia Bibi, the 45-year-old Christian mother of five whose death sentence on blasphemy charges has provoked an international outcry. Shahbaz Bhatti, the nation’s minister for minorities, has found that Bibi was wrongfully convicted, and Punjab Governor Salman Taseer has told CNN that the president will pardon her.

“I mean, he’s a liberal, modern-minded president, and he’s not going to see a poor woman like this targeted and executed,” said Taseer. “It’s just not going to happen.”

Bibi told Taseer, who visited her on November 20, that her accusers had raped her.

Islamist leaders are reportedly planning protests throughout the nation if Bibi is pardoned, and one Islamist organization has announced a November 24 protest against Taseer for his support of Bibi. Attorneys in the district where Bibi is jailed are boycotting the courts to protest a possible pardon, and opponents of the release have gathered outside the jail. Islamic fundamentalist groups are threatening to kill her if she is freed, the Fides news agency reports.

...
Bibi, a resident of Ittanwali in the eastern province of Punjab, was working at a local farm when the Muslim women with whom she was working called her an infidel and urged her to convert to Islam. Bibi refused, saying that Christianity was the only true religion.

“The Muslim men working in nearby fields also gathered and attacked Asia Bibi on which she fled to village in her home,” the Pakistan Christian Post reported. “The angry Muslims followed her and took her out of home and started beating her. They tortured her children also, but meanwhile someone informed police.”

Police then arrested Bibi on blasphemy charges. Following a lengthy trial, she was sentenced to death.

Bhatti, a Christian, said that Pakistan may amend its controversial anti-blasphemy law but will not repeal it-- prompting the leader of the Pakistan Christian Congress to call for his resignation.




Muslim religious tolerance in practice means death sentence to anyone who defies the dominant Mulism cohort.




Abu, these are your completely buggered people. You have signed up with the insane.

Yeh and i'm sure that account is really what happened soren. You're a naive git honestly.

And the simple fact is that Zadari the lapdog is well leashed. If the Western world really didn't want her to be executed, they could make it so at the drop of a hat. They probably will eventually, but best to string the people along for a little bit, pumping out these trumped up accounts. Knowing full well that half wits like yourself will get all riled up over them, actually believing them to be factual.

abu_rashid wrote on Nov 17^th, 2010 at 9:09pm:

This is a riot, nothing like the numbskull hardline Islamists to provide a barrel of laughs. And all the Muslim bins and bints here are right behind them.

Imagine there's no 72 virgins
It's easy if you try


FPI sets its eyes on underground music
Irawaty Wardany,
The Jakarta Post, Jakarta | Mon, 03/21/2011 12:21 PM | Headlines A | A | A |
Hot on the heels of its campaign against the dissolution of Ahmadiyah, the hard-line Muslim group Islam Defenders Front (FPI) is now setting its eyes on underground music, which its members believe carry messages that would lead young Muslims astray.

In a public lecture at the FPI headquarters in Petamburan, Central Jakarta, senior FPI member and purported Islamic music “expert” Farid Budi Fahri alleged there had been concerted efforts to turn young people away from Islamic teachings through a variety of underground music.

“There has been a conspiracy. A war launched by the underground community [against mainstream Islamic teaching],” he told FPI members who came to the talk last week.

Farid traced the roots of the underground music to a Zionist movement.

He said that a group of people adhering to Zionist ideology has used the medium to conceal their objectives of world domination.

“At the end of the day, it will sow conflict among Muslims themselves,” Farid said.

He went on to speculate that the underground music community, which initially developed as a resistance towards the mainstream industry by independently producing and distributing music, has been subverted by the Zionist movement to spread ideas that would contradict Islam.

“Are these musicians carrying out a Zionist mission? I would say no. The conspiracy is within the music, the lyrics which carry messages and the ideology which would create a lifestyle and counter culture in the end,” Farid said.

He cited the lyrics of John Lennon’s song Imagine as Zionist music, although Lennon was not Jewish and was not considered an idol of the underground music community.
“People keep singing his songs without realizing the meaning behind it,” he said.

He suspected that the song — about a hypothetical state of the world where religion, state and ideology did not exist — carry a pure Zionist message.

Farid also said some underground musical outfits had promoted Satanic messages. He said bands like Sepultura, Metallica and Lamb of God were satanic bands that could turn young Muslim fans away from religion.

The FPI has thus far tried to extend efforts to reach out to punk communities in the city to spread the message of Islam.

“So far we have tried to approach punk communities in Pulo Gadung and Blok M bus terminals so that they can return to the true Islamic teachings,” Farid said. ;D

He said FPI would soon expand its anti-underground initiatives.

“We expect that we can be done with the Ahmadiyah case soon so that FPI can concentrate on other issues like dealing with heresy that is rampant in the underground community,” Farid said.

Responding to the threat, the Jakarta Police said it would look into the matter. “We have not received information about the issue yet,” City Police spokesman Sr. Comr. Baharuddin Jafar said.

This is not the first time FPI launched a campaign against creative arts. The Bekasi branch of FPI last year called on the removal of a sculpture design by a Balinese artist titled Tiga Mojang (Three Women), alleging that it was a depiction of the Holy Trinity.