SWITZERLAND endorsed a far-right push to automatically expel foreign residents convicted of certain crimes.
The move has dismayed critics who described it as a "dark day for human rights."

Some 52.9 per cent of those who voted were in favour, while 47.1 per cent were against, with the country's German-speaking majority largely backing the proposal.

Only six out of 26 cantons rejected it.

The move came exactly a year after Switzerland shocked the world by agreeing to ban the construction of new minarets, which was another proposal backed by the far-right Swiss People's Party (SVP).

As with their campaign against minarets, the SVP had launched an aggressive campaign to push forward their proposal for the expulsion of foreign criminals, saying that those guilty of certain crimes should be stripped of their right to remain in the country.

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Related CoverageSwiss could get tough on foreigners Herald Sun, 2 days ago
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It didn't help Brown and it won't help Rudd The Australian, 25 May 2010
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Its signature poster illustrates a white sheep kicking a black sheep out of the Swiss flag.

Another poster depicts a gangster-like man with the slogan "Ivan S., rapist, and soon a Swiss?"

"It's very simple: we think that people we welcome in Switzerland should respect the rules of this country," Fabrice Moscheni, president of the SVP in canton Vaud, said.

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well they do have a point. its all about respect I believe.

I, for one, find this resurgence of top-down racism deeply disturbing!

In some respects it is disturbing Eq.  But Moscheni does have a very valid point too.    It does have to be a two way deal.


"It's very simple: we think that people we welcome in Switzerland should respect the rules of this country," Fabrice Moscheni, president of the SVP in canton Vaud, said.

Equitist wrote on Dec 1^st, 2010 at 9:19am:

I, for one, find this resurgence of top-down racism deeply disturbing!

dont you also find it deeply distubing that foreign nationals come into a country and disrespect the countries rules/laws.some even with racist intent.

most drug dealers and importers are of foreign extract..I dont call that respect for race or culture.

How can this be racism?  This is simply sensible governance.  

codswal wrote on Dec 1^st, 2010 at 9:30am:

Equitist wrote on Dec 1st, 2010 at 9:19am: I, for one, find this resurgence of top-down racism deeply disturbing! dont you also find it deeply distubing that foreign nationals come into a country and disrespect the countries rules/laws.some even with racist intent. most drug dealers and importers are of foreign extract..I dont call that respect for race or culture.

Cods, there are those who have no objection to that type of behaviour at all.  IMO, they`re as bad as the criminals, they must really hate Australia to so badly want to see it destroyed.

aussiefree2ride wrote on Dec 1^st, 2010 at 9:36am:

codswal wrote on Dec 1st, 2010 at 9:30am: Equitist wrote on Dec 1st, 2010 at 9:19am: I, for one, find this resurgence of top-down racism deeply disturbing! dont you also find it deeply distubing that foreign nationals come into a country and disrespect the countries rules/laws.some even with racist intent. most drug dealers and importers are of foreign extract..I dont call that respect for race or culture. Cods, there are those who have no objection to that type of behaviour at all.  IMO, they`re as bad as the criminals, they must really hate Australia to so badly want to see it destroyed.

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I get a bit annoyed when certain people expect their rights to be observed, over and above the laws of the land, and when someone complains  they are branded racists...

it pingggggggs me off to be honest and nem is the first out of the box just about every time..with that cat call.

what about them being racists...why is that different.??..

some of these people no nothing except fighting stealing killing since birth..they have lived their lives by the sword.. and when they enter someone else country they think they can bring all that with them....because they scream racist at the drop of a hat..and we all fall over.


I dont say what the Swiss have done it right but I dont say its wrong either... and I certainly dont call it racisim.. I am sure the same rule will apply to an Australian criminal as well. and god help us we have enough of those overseas... do they call racist when they get deported??

Equitist wrote on Dec 1^st, 2010 at 9:19am:

I, for one, find this resurgence of top-down racism deeply disturbing!

WHat exactly is racist about deporting convicted non-citizens?  

Unsurprisingly, you jump to the stupidest, most shop-soiled and reflexively self-flagelling conclusion. You embody a type of person who could not have an original thought to save his life but must at every turn draw the same conclusion. Your mind is spinning around the ying of ideological autism and the yang of reflexive lazyness.


Anyway, we have a thread on this already elsewhere:

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1291095174

codswal wrote on Dec 1^st, 2010 at 9:30am:

Equitist wrote on Dec 1st, 2010 at 9:19am: I, for one, find this resurgence of top-down racism deeply disturbing! dont you also find it deeply distubing that foreign nationals come into a country and disrespect the countries rules/laws.some even with racist intent. most drug dealers and importers are of foreign extract..I dont call that respect for race or culture.

Australians like to think that they should be treated differently when they go to different countries. I admire the Asian and Arab countries for the laws on drugs, rape, murder and sexual deviancy. Compared to those countries, Australia is very soft and liberal. We don't have capital or corporal punishment. The Asians and Arabs are laughing at us. Playing the white man is stupid. It might surprise you, but I think we Australians have a lot to turn from the Arabs and Asians. We should adopt some of their laws. Introduce the death sentence for those who produce, deal and import and export drugs. Execute those who commit rape, murder and acts of sexual deviancy. Corporally punish those who commit shop lifting and other minor criminal invasions like home invasions.

Aussie Skinhead wrote on Dec 1^st, 2010 at 10:54am:

codswal wrote on Dec 1st, 2010 at 9:30am: Equitist wrote on Dec 1st, 2010 at 9:19am: I, for one, find this resurgence of top-down racism deeply disturbing! dont you also find it deeply distubing that foreign nationals come into a country and disrespect the countries rules/laws.some even with racist intent. most drug dealers and importers are of foreign extract..I dont call that respect for race or culture. Australians like to think that they should be treated differently when they go to different countries. I admire the Asian and Arab countries for the laws on drugs, rape, murder and sexual deviancy. Compared to those countries, Australia is very soft and liberal. We don't have capital or corporal punishment. The Asians and Arabs are laughing at us. Playing the white man is stupid. It might surprise you, but I think we Australians have a lot to turn from the Arabs and Asians. We should adopt some of their laws. Introduce the death sentence for those who produce, deal and import and export drugs. Execute those who commit rape, murder and acts of sexual deviancy. Corporally punish those who commit shop lifting and other minor criminal invasions like home invasions.

WTF!?

Forget the "racist" label - this guy is an "extremist"!

Meantime, the mind boggles over where he would draw the lines on "sexual deviancy"...

Equitist wrote on Dec 1^st, 2010 at 10:56am:

Aussie Skinhead wrote on Dec 1st, 2010 at 10:54am: codswal wrote on Dec 1st, 2010 at 9:30am: Equitist wrote on Dec 1st, 2010 at 9:19am: I, for one, find this resurgence of top-down racism deeply disturbing! dont you also find it deeply distubing that foreign nationals come into a country and disrespect the countries rules/laws.some even with racist intent. most drug dealers and importers are of foreign extract..I dont call that respect for race or culture. Australians like to think that they should be treated differently when they go to different countries. I admire the Asian and Arab countries for the laws on drugs, rape, murder and sexual deviancy. Compared to those countries, Australia is very soft and liberal. We don't have capital or corporal punishment. The Asians and Arabs are laughing at us. Playing the white man is stupid. It might surprise you, but I think we Australians have a lot to turn from the Arabs and Asians. We should adopt some of their laws. Introduce the death sentence for those who produce, deal and import and export drugs. Execute those who commit rape, murder and acts of sexual deviancy. Corporally punish those who commit shop lifting and other minor criminal invasions like home invasions. WTF!? Forget the "racist" label - this guy is an "extremist"! Meantime, the mind boggles over where he would draw the lines on "sexual deviancy"...

Yes. Give me "soft liberal" australia  even with drugs , murders etc over aussieskinheads utopia anyday

I think its a great move.  When you come to Australia, you agree to abide by the laws of this country.

If a foreigner, even if granted citizenship is convicted of murder, rape and pedofilia for example upon the completion of their sentence should be deported.  Living in this country should be a priviledge, one that has been abused by those who came here to supposedly get a better life only to erode our lawful way of life.

I have ZERO sympathy for anyone who commits serious crimes.

Equitist wrote on Dec 1^st, 2010 at 10:56am:

Aussie Skinhead wrote on Dec 1st, 2010 at 10:54am: codswal wrote on Dec 1st, 2010 at 9:30am: Equitist wrote on Dec 1st, 2010 at 9:19am: I, for one, find this resurgence of top-down racism deeply disturbing! dont you also find it deeply distubing that foreign nationals come into a country and disrespect the countries rules/laws.some even with racist intent. most drug dealers and importers are of foreign extract..I dont call that respect for race or culture. Australians like to think that they should be treated differently when they go to different countries. I admire the Asian and Arab countries for the laws on drugs, rape, murder and sexual deviancy. Compared to those countries, Australia is very soft and liberal. We don't have capital or corporal punishment. The Asians and Arabs are laughing at us. Playing the white man is stupid. It might surprise you, but I think we Australians have a lot to turn from the Arabs and Asians. We should adopt some of their laws. Introduce the death sentence for those who produce, deal and import and export drugs. Execute those who commit rape, murder and acts of sexual deviancy. Corporally punish those who commit shop lifting and other minor criminal invasions like home invasions. WTF!? Forget the "racist" label - this guy is an "extremist"! Meantime, the mind boggles over where he would draw the lines on "sexual deviancy"...

"Extremist" is a term created and used by the internationalist regime to discredit the opposition just liek the term "racist". What is so wrong with being "extreme". We should have the death sentence and we should have corporal punishment.

As for sexual deviance.....paedophiles, homosexuals, lesbians, bisexuals, transvestites, people who look at and have child pornography and people who perform sexual acts on animals.

Aussie Skinhead wrote on Dec 1^st, 2010 at 11:08am:

Equitist wrote on Dec 1st, 2010 at 10:56am: Aussie Skinhead wrote on Dec 1st, 2010 at 10:54am: codswal wrote on Dec 1st, 2010 at 9:30am: Equitist wrote on Dec 1st, 2010 at 9:19am: I, for one, find this resurgence of top-down racism deeply disturbing! dont you also find it deeply distubing that foreign nationals come into a country and disrespect the countries rules/laws.some even with racist intent. most drug dealers and importers are of foreign extract..I dont call that respect for race or culture. Australians like to think that they should be treated differently when they go to different countries. I admire the Asian and Arab countries for the laws on drugs, rape, murder and sexual deviancy. Compared to those countries, Australia is very soft and liberal. We don't have capital or corporal punishment. The Asians and Arabs are laughing at us. Playing the white man is stupid. It might surprise you, but I think we Australians have a lot to turn from the Arabs and Asians. We should adopt some of their laws. Introduce the death sentence for those who produce, deal and import and export drugs. Execute those who commit rape, murder and acts of sexual deviancy. Corporally punish those who commit shop lifting and other minor criminal invasions like home invasions. WTF!? Forget the "racist" label - this guy is an "extremist"! Meantime, the mind boggles over where he would draw the lines on "sexual deviancy"... "Extremist" is a term created and used by the internationalist regime to discredit the opposition just liek the term "racist". What is so wrong with being "extreme". We should have the death sentence and we should have corporal punishment. As for sexual deviance.....paedophiles, homosexuals, lesbians, bisexuals, transvestites, people who look at and have child pornography and people who perform sexual acts on animals.

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Execute those who commit rape, murder and acts of sexual deviancy.

In your view, are dress-ups, role play and/or oral and anal sex betwixt heterosexuals acts of sexual deviance - or are they unworthy of execution...or corporal punishment!?

What about phone sex?

What about sexting?

What about prostitution?

What about the use of feathers and/or electric devices in the bedroom?

Hey, would you be rewarding or punishing heterosexual sado-masochism by withholding execution or corporal punishment!?

~ 'SWITZERLAND endorsed a far-right push to automatically expel foreign residents convicted of certain crimes.'  ~


Foreign own companies to ?

Aussie Skinhead wrote on Dec 1^st, 2010 at 11:08am:

As for sexual deviance.....paedophiles, homosexuals, lesbians, bisexuals, transvestites, people who look at and have child pornography and people who perform sexual acts on animals.

So most neo-nazi's would be shown the door then? Sounds fair enough. I mean everybody knows that the SS were Hitler's bitches.

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In your view, are dress-ups, role play and/or oral and anal sex betwixt heterosexuals acts of sexual deviance - or are they unworthy of execution...or corporal punishment!?

Dress ups, oral sex, anal sex between straight people is perfectly fine.


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What about phone sex?

Technically that isn't sex.


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What about sexting?

No


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What about prostitution?

Oh please, I'm not wanting to turn Australia into a Muslim country.


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What about the use of feathers and/or electric devices in the bedroom?

I refer you to my last comment.


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Hey, would you be rewarding or punishing heterosexual sado-masochism by withholding execution or corporal punishment!?

A nationalist government would have other things to deal with like the economy rather than what people did to themselves (straight people that is).

"Oh please, I'm not wanting to turn Australia into a Muslim country."





"I admire the Asian and Arab countries for the laws on drugs, rape, murder and sexual deviancy"







seems like you are.

darkhall67 wrote on Dec 1^st, 2010 at 11:54am:

seems like you are.

I admire them and I do want to copy them toa  certain extent but I don't want Australia to be completely like them.

Aussie Skinhead wrote on Dec 1^st, 2010 at 12:04pm:

darkhall67 wrote on Dec 1st, 2010 at 11:54am: seems like you are. I admire them and I do want to copy them toa  certain extent but I don't want Australia to be completely like them.

So YOU want to do the picking and choosing do you?

muso wrote on Dec 1^st, 2010 at 11:22am:

I mean everybody knows that the SS were Hitler's bitches.

Ooohh... that's a bit too gangsta for a boffin, no?

:P

codswal wrote on Dec 1^st, 2010 at 9:30am:

Equitist wrote on Dec 1st, 2010 at 9:19am: I, for one, find this resurgence of top-down racism deeply disturbing! dont you also find it deeply distubing that foreign nationals come into a country and disrespect the countries rules/laws.some even with racist intent. most drug dealers and importers are of foreign extract..I dont call that respect for race or culture.

Actually I'd just classify that as 'criminal behaviour' or GREED.....doesn't really mean disrespect for race/culture....

codswal wrote on Dec 1^st, 2010 at 9:02am:

SWITZERLAND endorsed a far-right push to automatically expel foreign residents convicted of certain crimes. The move has dismayed critics who described it as a "dark day for human rights." Some 52.9 per cent of those who voted were in favour, while 47.1 per cent were against, with the country's German-speaking majority largely backing the proposal. Only six out of 26 cantons rejected it. The move came exactly a year after Switzerland shocked the world by agreeing to ban the construction of new minarets, which was another proposal backed by the far-right Swiss People's Party (SVP). As with their campaign against minarets, the SVP had launched an aggressive campaign to push forward their proposal for the expulsion of foreign criminals, saying that those guilty of certain crimes should be stripped of their right to remain in the country. Start of sidebar. Skip to end of sidebar. Related CoverageSwiss could get tough on foreigners Herald Sun, 2 days ago Swiss split on tough rules for foreigners The Australian, 2 days ago Fiji insults us Herald Sun, 13 Jul 2010 Australia right to ban envoy: Israel paper The Australian, 26 May 2010 It didn't help Brown and it won't help Rudd The Australian, 25 May 2010 .End of sidebar. Return to start of sidebar. Its signature poster illustrates a white sheep kicking a black sheep out of the Swiss flag. Another poster depicts a gangster-like man with the slogan "Ivan S., rapist, and soon a Swiss?" "It's very simple: we think that people we welcome in Switzerland should respect the rules of this country," Fabrice Moscheni, president of the SVP in canton Vaud, said. ----------------------- well they do have a point. its all about respect I believe.

Cods, I think if you check, you'll find the same or similar laws re:foreign nationals/crime/explusion already apply in Australia...

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Forget the "racist" label - this guy is an "extremist"!

Besides the execution of drug-peddlers (though I'll admit I don't really care about their lives very much) I didn't see much to disagree with in his statement. Extremist is meaningless when employed to denigrate a point of view; modern day liberalism is essentially the product of an extremism that would have been laughed at seventy years ago. Liberals have done nothing but be extreme and sow discord.

I would be in favour of a new and extra step to be added to our "Citizenship" process, whereby migrants wishing to be granted Australian cizenship would first be granted "Probationary" citizenship, not unlike we have for Driver's Licenses.

This Probationary system would require applicants to sign a contract, agreeing to not challenge deportation back to their country of origin, if they are found guilty of a major crime, like Drug Trafficking, Rape, Murder, Serious Assault, etc.
This would have the effect of ensuring that would be citizens were actively committing themselves to respecting the laws of our country, and were fully aware of the consequences of not doing so.

During the probationary period they would have all the normal rights, and obligations of citizenship, but also have the knowledge that these could be taken from them if they showed they did not deserve to keep it.

gizmo_2655 wrote on Dec 1^st, 2010 at 12:47pm:

[=1291158160/0#0 date=1291158159]SWITZERLAND endorsed a far-right push to automatically expel foreign residents convicted of certain crimes. The move has dismayed critics who described it as a "dark day for human rights." Some 52.9 per cent of those who voted were in favour, while 47.1 per cent were against, with the country's German-speaking majority largely backing the proposal. Only six out of 26 cantons rejected it. The move came exactly a year after Switzerland shocked the world by agreeing to ban the construction of new minarets, which was another proposal backed by the far-right Swiss People's Party (SVP). As with their campaign against minarets, the SVP had launched an aggressive campaign to push forward their proposal for the expulsion of foreign criminals, saying that those guilty of certain crimes should be stripped of their right to remain in the country. Start of sidebar. Skip to end of sidebar. Related CoverageSwiss could get tough on foreigners Herald Sun, 2 days ago Swiss split on tough rules for foreigners The Australian, 2 days ago Fiji insults us Herald Sun, 13 Jul 2010 Australia right to ban envoy: Israel paper The Australian, 26 May 2010 It didn't help Brown and it won't help Rudd The Australian, 25 May 2010 .End of sidebar. Return to start of sidebar. Its signature poster illustrates a white sheep kicking a black sheep out of the Swiss flag. Another poster depicts a gangster-like man with the slogan "Ivan S., rapist, and soon a Swiss?" "It's very simple: we think that people we welcome in Switzerland should respect the rules of this country," Fabrice Moscheni, president of the SVP in canton Vaud, said. ----------------------- well they do have a point. its all about respect I believe.

Cods, I think if you check, you'll find the same or similar laws re:foreign nationals/crime/explusion already apply in Australia...[/quote]



it isnt mandatory though is it.. they can fight it.. like the American has just done.. and we have to make all sort of investigations to see they are treated right.. even though they abused their rights and ours in our own country.


auctually I wasnt really referring to Australia in particular. on this.

when someone does get deported the bleeding hearts seem to come from somewhere and spend thousands of our dollars to give them more rights than seems fair sometimes.

If someone here gets thrown off their land or out of their house for probably non payments.. they dont come out of the woodwork to save them do they?..yet crims are given all sorts of legal help.in case we get it wrong or get accused of racism

mozzaok wrote on Dec 1^st, 2010 at 12:57pm:

I would be in favour of a new and extra step to be added to our "Citizenship" process, whereby migrants wishing to be granted Australian cizenship would first be granted "Probationary" citizenship, not unlike we have for Driver's Licenses. This Probationary system would require applicants to sign a contract, agreeing to not challenge deportation back to their country of origin, if they are found guilty of a major crime, like Drug Trafficking, Rape, Murder, Serious Assault, etc. This would have the effect of ensuring that would be citizens were actively committing themselves to respecting the laws of our country, and were fully aware of the consequences of not doing so. During the probationary period they would have all the normal rights, and obligations of citizenship, but also have the knowledge that these could be taken from them if they showed they did not deserve to keep it.

Australian citizenship as a suspended sentence - hmm...



I think it'd be better to increase the waiting period (to at least 7 years) and increse the eligibility requirements: tax paying track record, English and no criminal conviction.
No family re-union for non-citizens. Swiss-style deportation of convicted non-citizens.

codswal wrote on Dec 1^st, 2010 at 1:02pm:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Dec 1st, 2010 at 12:47pm: [=1291158160/0#0 date=1291158159]SWITZERLAND endorsed a far-right push to automatically expel foreign residents convicted of certain crimes. The move has dismayed critics who described it as a "dark day for human rights." Some 52.9 per cent of those who voted were in favour, while 47.1 per cent were against, with the country's German-speaking majority largely backing the proposal. Only six out of 26 cantons rejected it. The move came exactly a year after Switzerland shocked the world by agreeing to ban the construction of new minarets, which was another proposal backed by the far-right Swiss People's Party (SVP). As with their campaign against minarets, the SVP had launched an aggressive campaign to push forward their proposal for the expulsion of foreign criminals, saying that those guilty of certain crimes should be stripped of their right to remain in the country. Start of sidebar. Skip to end of sidebar. Related CoverageSwiss could get tough on foreigners Herald Sun, 2 days ago Swiss split on tough rules for foreigners The Australian, 2 days ago Fiji insults us Herald Sun, 13 Jul 2010 Australia right to ban envoy: Israel paper The Australian, 26 May 2010 It didn't help Brown and it won't help Rudd The Australian, 25 May 2010 .End of sidebar. Return to start of sidebar. Its signature poster illustrates a white sheep kicking a black sheep out of the Swiss flag. Another poster depicts a gangster-like man with the slogan "Ivan S., rapist, and soon a Swiss?" "It's very simple: we think that people we welcome in Switzerland should respect the rules of this country," Fabrice Moscheni, president of the SVP in canton Vaud, said. ----------------------- well they do have a point. its all about respect I believe. Cods, I think if you check, you'll find the same or similar laws re:foreign nationals/crime/explusion already apply in Australia...

it isnt mandatory though is it.. they can fight it.. like the American has just done.. and we have to make all sort of investigations to see they are treated right.. even though they abused their rights and ours in our own country.

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The American guy didn't 'fight' it...Australia wouldn't send him back if he was going to face the Death Penalty...

darkhall67 wrote on Dec 1^st, 2010 at 11:54am:

"Oh please, I'm not wanting to turn Australia into a Muslim country." "I admire the Asian and Arab countries for the laws on drugs, rape, murder and sexual deviancy" seems like you are.

Rape and murder deserve long prison terms.

What I do in the privacy of my bedroom is no-one's
goddam business but mine.

As is whether or not I choose to use drugs.

codswal wrote on Dec 1^st, 2010 at 9:30am:

most drug dealers and importers are of foreign extract..I dont call that respect for race or culture.

Is that so  ::)

Kat wrote on Dec 1^st, 2010 at 10:26pm:

Rape and murder deserve long prison terms. What I do in the privacy of my bedroom is no-one's goddam business but mine. As is whether or not I choose to use drugs.

Why waste good money on undesirables who should be dealt with with out any regard to so called human rights? They are undesirable and unworthy of living. They should be used for their labour in concentration camps and than put to death probably by means of mass executions probably gas chambers.

As for sexual deviancy and drugs, people who do that are a threat to society and must be exterminated. People who use drogs though will be dealt with differently.

Aussie Skinhead wrote on Dec 2^nd, 2010 at 11:34am:

Kat wrote on Dec 1st, 2010 at 10:26pm: Rape and murder deserve long prison terms. What I do in the privacy of my bedroom is no-one's goddam business but mine. As is whether or not I choose to use drugs. Why waste good money on undesirables who should be dealt with with out any regard to so called human rights? They are undesirable and unworthy of living. They should be used for their labour in concentration camps and than put to death probably by means of mass executions probably gas chambers. As for sexual deviancy and drugs, people who do that are a threat to society and must be exterminated. People who use drogs though will be dealt with differently.

And to think I "pidgeon holed " you as an extremist nutter.

Crikey!


Aussie Skinhead wrote on Dec 2^nd, 2010 at 11:34am:

Kat wrote on Dec 1st, 2010 at 10:26pm: Rape and murder deserve long prison terms. What I do in the privacy of my bedroom is no-one's goddam business but mine. As is whether or not I choose to use drugs. Why waste good money on undesirables who should be dealt with with out any regard to so called human rights? They are undesirable and unworthy of living. They should be used for their labour in concentration camps and than put to death probably by means of mass executions probably gas chambers. As for sexual deviancy and drugs, people who do that are a threat to society and must be exterminated. People who use drogs though will be dealt with differently.

Go figure, eh!?

Aussie Skinhead wrote on Dec 2^nd, 2010 at 11:34am:

Kat wrote on Dec 1st, 2010 at 10:26pm: Rape and murder deserve long prison terms. What I do in the privacy of my bedroom is no-one's goddam business but mine. As is whether or not I choose to use drugs. Why waste good money on undesirables who should be dealt with with out any regard to so called human rights? They are undesirable and unworthy of living. They should be used for their labour in concentration camps and than put to death probably by means of mass executions probably gas chambers. As for sexual deviancy and drugs, people who do that are a threat to society and must be exterminated. People who use drogs though will be dealt with differently.

Well the murderers at least could become a vital component of your ideal society Aussie Skinhead, you could utilise their skills for your roaming death squads. :o

mozzaok wrote on Dec 2^nd, 2010 at 1:24pm:

Aussie Skinhead wrote on Dec 2nd, 2010 at 11:34am: Kat wrote on Dec 1st, 2010 at 10:26pm: Rape and murder deserve long prison terms. What I do in the privacy of my bedroom is no-one's goddam business but mine. As is whether or not I choose to use drugs. Why waste good money on undesirables who should be dealt with with out any regard to so called human rights? They are undesirable and unworthy of living. They should be used for their labour in concentration camps and than put to death probably by means of mass executions probably gas chambers. As for sexual deviancy and drugs, people who do that are a threat to society and must be exterminated. People who use drogs though will be dealt with differently. Well the murderers at least could become a vital component of your ideal society Aussie Skinhead, you could utilise their skills for your roaming death squads. :o

Why does everyone have this negative image of National Socialism as some kidn of mass murdering cult liek religion? People have been watching too many Hollywood films about the so called Holocaust. Basically, convicted criminals especially: rapists, murders, sexual deivants etc have right rates of reoffending. By using them for their labour and than executing them, we would make a profit and eliminate any further costs and problems to society. A dead man can't strike again.

A lot of the arguments against capital punishment is stupid.

Botched executions are easily fixed. If you going to shoot them, get a big enough bullet and the right calibre firearm. As for hangings, most countries don't ahve problems with that any more. Their execution men are well experience and know how to break a person's neck witha  noose. If they do stuff it up, than just finihs it off witha  bullet through the temple or upper part of the neck where the spine meats the head. Doing that right the right calibre firearm would decapitate the victim. Australians are so soft these days. They need to toughen up a bit.