Ted has given Victorians back the Christmas spirit by removing any bans on celebrating Christmas.
"DON'T let political correctness ruin Christmas, Ted Baillieu has warned schools and other community groups.

The Premier said Victorians should embrace the festive season.

He said schools should not back down from running Christmas pageants, concerts and nativity scenes for fear of offending minority groups.

"A Baillieu government expects school principals to take a reasonable and commonsense approach so all Victorian children have the opportunity to enjoy the simple pleasures of Christmas," he said.

The warning comes after some schools and community groups imposed Christmas bans in recent years.

Islamic Council of Victoria vice-president Sherene Hassan backed Mr Baillieu.

"I don't believe that multiculturalism is about banning Santa or banning Christmas carols," she said."

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/special-reports/christmas-bans-are-off-says-ted-baillieu/story-fn5kmqy2-1225963537330


Joy to the World.

About bloody time!!!

hip hip hurray!!.. I am sick of the nofun bunnies.. if they dont like it stay away..simple really..

how others celebrate their festive times is their business and no one tries to stop them doing it.. so why do we have to stop doing what we have done for centuries.

I know people that dont believe in christmas trees its Pagan or something..does that mean no more christmas trees.???

Straw man.

Please delete wrote on Dec 1^st, 2010 at 12:12pm:

Straw man.

ah so you are one of those no fun bunnies?.. might have guessed

Can you point me to where this has happened?

codswal wrote on Dec 1^st, 2010 at 12:15pm:

Please delete wrote on Dec 1st, 2010 at 12:12pm: Straw man. ah so you are one of those no fun bunnies?.. might have guessed

You guessed it.

It's a "War Against Christmas" ernie.


Be alarmed!!


Be ALARMED!!!!

I agree, that is a terrific way to start his new Premiership, by signalling to all that he is in favour of a no BS, common sense approach, to over heightened, politically correct nonsense.

I just hope he does not go too far in supporting any particular religious groups agenda, be it Christian, Muslim, Hindu, Jew, or any other.
Some of the more wacky, far right extremists, have a very strong Christian agenda that they would wish to foist upon him, and the real test will be to see if he can resist that, in the same way we hope he will resist the attempts from Muslim migrants to have special privileges granted to their communities.

darkhall67 wrote on Dec 1^st, 2010 at 12:21pm:

It's a "War Against Christmas" ernie. Be alarmed!! Be ALARMED!!!!

Hey, shouldn't we have a fridge magnet for this scenario!?

Ten points, Teddy !




Removing a "ban" that never existed



Don't ban Christmas, schools told
Tanya Giles and Geraldine Mitchell
21 November 2005

EVERY Victorian school and kindergarten has been officially told: don't ban Christmas celebrations.

Premier Steve Bracks yesterday gave his official encouragement for nativity scenes, carols and other Christian traditions.



Jingle Bells can ring in classrooms around the state again after several schools banned nativity scenes and carol singing last year for fear of offending non-Christian children.

Mr Bracks told the Herald Sun the Government would send a message to every primary and secondary school reminding them not to ban Christmas.

"All schools and kindergartens should be able to have nativity plays and Christian celebrations," Mr Bracks said.

"Those who don't wish to participate don't have to, and those who wish to celebrate in their own way can do so.

"But even those from other faiths, of course, accept Christian celebrations and the Government is keen to ensure there are no bans on any of these sorts of activities."

Mr Bracks said he wanted to encourage tolerance of all faiths.

His intervention comes after several schools last year refused to stage Christmas celebrations.

Some kindergartens and childcare centres also banned nativity scenes in favour of end-of-year parties with no mention of Christmas.






Shut off the Sugarloaf Pipeline - which was currently shut off





And bringing back the security watch to public transport - which was abolished by the Kennett Liberal Government during THEIR term





What's NEXT ?

My company doesn't celebrate christmas in any of our offices, the ones in Australia included.

We have a holiday season and an 'end of year' set of parties.

We also do things for such the like as Thanksgiving etc but we are mindful not to push an American culture onto the overseas offices.

I celebrate christmas but its not a big deal of companies don't.
I have always enjoyed the multi-national large corps and few of those celebrate it now.

"Shut off the Sugarloaf Pipeline - which was currently shut off"

If it's anything like the plan for NSW...then shutting it down is a GREAT idea



[highlight]And bringing back the security watch to public transport - which was abolished by the Kennett Liberal Government during THEIR term[/highlight]

And given how much violence and crime takes place on trains, trams,buses and transport stations/interchanges.....how is this a 'bad' thing???

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"Shut off the Sugarloaf Pipeline - which was currently shut off" If it's anything like the plan for NSW...then shutting it down is a GREAT idea

Sugarloaf Pipeline

The development of Victoria’s Water Grid will help Victoria to better manage supply risks. The Sugarloaf Pipeline is an important new addition to this grid and connects Melbourne’s water supply system with the Goulburn River system. It was completed in February 2010.

In 2010, the pipeline will deliver 75 billion litres of water to Melbourne, from several sources.

From 2011 on, the pipeline will deliver Melbourne its share of savings achieved under Stage 1 of the Northern Victoria Irrigation Renewal Project (NVIRP). Once Stage 1 is completed at the end of 2012, it is expected to save an average of 225 billion litres of water a year.

As with all water allocations in Northern Victoria, the actual amount saved each year will vary, depending partly on rainfall and inflow conditions. Savings generated in a year also depend on how much water is delivered and what modernisation works have been completed.

Each year the amount will be split three ways between Melbourne, irrigators and the environment. Melbourne's allocation will be capped at 75 billion litres per year while in 'wet' years, irrigators and the environment could receive greater allocations.



Learn MORE ...

http://www.ourwater.vic.gov.au/programs/water-grid/sugarloaf




In a nutshell, the pipeline ONLY sends to Melbourne a percentage of any "bonus water" saved by the overall project

It takes NOTHING from the farming region - and delivers it MORE

buzzanddidj wrote on Dec 1^st, 2010 at 2:03pm:

Quote: "Shut off the Sugarloaf Pipeline - which was currently shut off" If it's anything like the plan for NSW...then shutting it down is a GREAT idea Sugarloaf Pipeline The development of Victoria’s Water Grid will help Victoria to better manage supply risks. The Sugarloaf Pipeline is an important new addition to this grid and connects Melbourne’s water supply system with the Goulburn River system. It was completed in February 2010. In 2010, the pipeline will deliver 75 billion litres of water to Melbourne, from several sources. From 2011 on, the pipeline will deliver Melbourne its share of savings achieved under Stage 1 of the Northern Victoria Irrigation Renewal Project (NVIRP). Once Stage 1 is completed at the end of 2012, it is expected to save an average of 225 billion litres of water a year. As with all water allocations in Northern Victoria, the actual amount saved each year will vary, depending partly on rainfall and inflow conditions. Savings generated in a year also depend on how much water is delivered and what modernisation works have been completed. Each year the amount will be split three ways between Melbourne, irrigators and the environment. Melbourne's allocation will be capped at 75 billion litres per year while in 'wet' years, irrigators and the environment could receive greater allocations. Learn MORE ... http://www.ourwater.vic.gov.au/programs/water-grid/sugarloaf In a nutshell, the pipeline ONLY sends to Melbourne a percentage of any "bonus water" saved by the overall project It takes NOTHING from the farming region - and delivers it MORE

AND you believe a state Government???

HOW can it possible 'deliver more'???...farmers take their allocation from the river system.....THEN the government decides to pipe water from the river system TO melbourne and you think this idea won't reduce the allocation to farmers/irrigators???

Hmmm and Santa will turn up in 24 days, on a sleigh draw by 12 reindeer, and leave presents for ALL the good boys and girls....

Can't believe people have actually bought this.

Hook, line and sinker.

The warning comes after some schools and community groups imposed Christmas bans in recent years.Islamic Council of Victoria vice-president Sherene Hassan backed Mr Baillieu.

"I don't believe that multiculturalism is about banning Santa or banning Christmas carols," she said."

He is certainly establishing where he stands - which was the point of such pronouncements. He is drawing a line that is clearly identifiable. So the people of Vic actually know what he and his govt stands for.

Makes a change...

longweekend58 wrote on Dec 1^st, 2010 at 4:05pm:

He is certainly establishing where he stands - which was the point of such pronouncements. He is drawing a line that is clearly identifiable. So the people of Vic actually know what he and his govt stands for. Makes a change...

Yes, and it means that the white anglo saxons will get some chance of equal rights to the minority groups.

longweekend58 wrote on Dec 1^st, 2010 at 4:05pm:

He is certainly establishing where he stands - which was the point of such pronouncements. He is drawing a line that is clearly identifiable. So the people of Vic actually know what he and his govt stands for. Makes a change...

Reminds me of the recent law passed in Oklahoma banning sharia law.


A non issue being given oxygen to inflame the "anti PC crusaders".

nichy wrote on Dec 1^st, 2010 at 2:36pm:

The warning comes after some schools and community groups imposed Christmas bans in recent years.Islamic Council of Victoria vice-president Sherene Hassan backed Mr Baillieu. "I don't believe that multiculturalis don't believe m is about banning Santa or banning Christmas carols," she said."

well done to her from what I have read they dont object.. so who does???

I have never heard of the Jews complaining.. a few communists have. but I dont think we take notice of them anymore..

I think all this political correct stuff causes trouble myself.

darkhall67 wrote on Dec 1^st, 2010 at 5:10pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Dec 1st, 2010 at 4:05pm: He is certainly establishing where he stands - which was the point of such pronouncements. He is drawing a line that is clearly identifiable. So the people of Vic actually know what he and his govt stands for. Makes a change... Reminds me of the recent law passed in Oklahoma banning sharia law. A non issue being given oxygen to inflame the "anti PC crusaders".

Ted also advised that there will be no elephant stampedes or earthquakes on his watch.

He noted that the fact that there was no danger of this happening whether he was in power or not was immaterial.

... and all the bogans breathed a sigh of relief. Ted had saved us from the elephants and the earthquakes and, most importantly of all, he had saved Christmas.

codswal wrote on Dec 1^st, 2010 at 6:16pm:

nichy wrote on Dec 1st, 2010 at 2:36pm: The warning comes after some schools and community groups imposed Christmas bans in recent years.Islamic Council of Victoria vice-president Sherene Hassan backed Mr Baillieu. "I don't believe that multiculturalis don't believe m is about banning Santa or banning Christmas carols," she said." well done to her from what I have read they dont object.. so who does??? I have never heard of the Jews complaining.. a few communists have. but I dont think we take notice of them anymore.. I think all this political correct stuff causes trouble myself.

It does.
And Ted has started the resurgence back to sanity for Victorians.
And hope it spreads throughout Australia.

Luke Fowler wrote on Dec 1^st, 2010 at 7:38pm:

darkhall67 wrote on Dec 1st, 2010 at 5:10pm: longweekend58 wrote on Dec 1st, 2010 at 4:05pm: He is certainly establishing where he stands - which was the point of such pronouncements. He is drawing a line that is clearly identifiable. So the people of Vic actually know what he and his govt stands for. Makes a change... Reminds me of the recent law passed in Oklahoma banning sharia law. A non issue being given oxygen to inflame the "anti PC crusaders". Ted also advised that there will be no elephant stampedes or earthquakes on his watch. He noted that the fact that there was no danger of this happening whether he was in power or not was immaterial. ... and all the bogans breathed a sigh of relief. Ted had saved us from the elephants and the earthquakes and, most importantly of all, he had saved Christmas.

It would make a GREAT disney animated movie.

I could not criticise Bali for this but not so sure it is so impressive either, just common sense however I am not convinced it actually means anything if their are not law changes to support the rhetoric.

The reason that some groups stopped doing the xmas thing was because they were told that they could be vulnerable to legal action against them - this would not go away just because Bali said to just do it anyway.

darkhall67 wrote on Dec 1^st, 2010 at 7:57pm:

Luke Fowler wrote on Dec 1st, 2010 at 7:38pm: darkhall67 wrote on Dec 1st, 2010 at 5:10pm: longweekend58 wrote on Dec 1st, 2010 at 4:05pm: He is certainly establishing where he stands - which was the point of such pronouncements. He is drawing a line that is clearly identifiable. So the people of Vic actually know what he and his govt stands for. Makes a change... Reminds me of the recent law passed in Oklahoma banning sharia law. A non issue being given oxygen to inflame the "anti PC crusaders". Ted also advised that there will be no elephant stampedes or earthquakes on his watch. He noted that the fact that there was no danger of this happening whether he was in power or not was immaterial. ... and all the bogans breathed a sigh of relief. Ted had saved us from the elephants and the earthquakes and, most importantly of all, he had saved Christmas. It would make a GREAT disney animated movie.

It would make an excellant animated movie, the title could be "better than Brumby in one week".

aussiefree2ride wrote on Dec 1^st, 2010 at 8:06pm:

darkhall67 wrote on Dec 1st, 2010 at 7:57pm: Luke Fowler wrote on Dec 1st, 2010 at 7:38pm: darkhall67 wrote on Dec 1st, 2010 at 5:10pm: longweekend58 wrote on Dec 1st, 2010 at 4:05pm: He is certainly establishing where he stands - which was the point of such pronouncements. He is drawing a line that is clearly identifiable. So the people of Vic actually know what he and his govt stands for. Makes a change... Reminds me of the recent law passed in Oklahoma banning sharia law. A non issue being given oxygen to inflame the "anti PC crusaders". Ted also advised that there will be no elephant stampedes or earthquakes on his watch. He noted that the fact that there was no danger of this happening whether he was in power or not was immaterial. ... and all the bogans breathed a sigh of relief. Ted had saved us from the elephants and the earthquakes and, most importantly of all, he had saved Christmas. It would make a GREAT disney animated movie. It would make an excellant animated movie, the title could be "better than Brumby in one week".

How about "The Wild Bush Brumby Massacre"?


or



"A Big Baillieu About Nothing"

::)

Miss Anne Dryst wrote on Dec 1^st, 2010 at 12:01pm:

Ted has given Victorians back the Christmas spirit by removing any bans on celebrating Christmas. "DON'T let political correctness ruin Christmas, Ted Baillieu has warned schools and other community groups. The Premier said Victorians should embrace the festive season. He said schools should not back down from running Christmas pageants, concerts and nativity scenes for fear of offending minority groups. "A Baillieu government expects school principals to take a reasonable and commonsense approach so all Victorian children have the opportunity to enjoy the simple pleasures of Christmas," he said. The warning comes after some schools and community groups imposed Christmas bans in recent years. Islamic Council of Victoria vice-president Sherene Hassan backed Mr Baillieu. "I don't believe that multiculturalism is about banning Santa or banning Christmas carols," she said." http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/special-reports/christmas-bans-are-off-says-ted-baillieu/story-fn5kmqy2-1225963537330 Joy to the World.

As Ernie has said.  Absolute strawman rubbish.  Can anyone show me where some School in Australia was told they could not have a pageant?

Typical mellie crap.  Next thing we will hear from mellie is that the new Victorian guy has encouraged Santa to bring gifts to kids this year, or beseeched God to allow the Sun to rise tomorrow.

And oi, mellie, where are the links to that school stabbing story of yours, the one involving the School you told us you daughter attended?

8-)

Great that Ted stopped the banning of Victorians celebrating Christmas in schools isn't it.
He has certainly put these ridiculous minority groups back in their boxes!
Bet now the other states will start standing up for Australians from now and not kowtowing to whatever whim these minorities are demanding!

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Great that Ted stopped the banning of Victorians celebrating Christmas in schools isn't it.

Show me where Ted's opponents put a ban on Victorians celebrating Christmas in schools, please?

:)

Aussie wrote on Dec 1^st, 2010 at 8:27pm:

Miss Anne Dryst wrote on Dec 1st, 2010 at 12:01pm: Ted has given Victorians back the Christmas spirit by removing any bans on celebrating Christmas. "DON'T let political correctness ruin Christmas, Ted Baillieu has warned schools and other community groups. The Premier said Victorians should embrace the festive season. He said schools should not back down from running Christmas pageants, concerts and nativity scenes for fear of offending minority groups. "A Baillieu government expects school principals to take a reasonable and commonsense approach so all Victorian children have the opportunity to enjoy the simple pleasures of Christmas," he said. The warning comes after some schools and community groups imposed Christmas bans in recent years. Islamic Council of Victoria vice-president Sherene Hassan backed Mr Baillieu. "I don't believe that multiculturalism is about banning Santa or banning Christmas carols," she said." http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/special-reports/christmas-bans-are-off-says-ted-baillieu/story-fn5kmqy2-1225963537330 Joy to the World. As Ernie has said.  Absolute strawman rubbish.  Can anyone show me where some School in Australia was told they could not have a pageant? Typical mellie crap.  Next thing we will hear from mellie is that the new Victorian guy has encouraged Santa to bring gifts to kids this year, or beseeched God to allow the Sun to rise tomorrow. And oi, mellie, where are the links to that school stabbing story of yours, the one involving the School you told us you daughter attended? 8-)

Reasonable points, and a reasonable question, that several people here would be interested in hearing a serious response to, not some bizarre rant designed to obscure, rather than illuminate.

If you refuse to read the link or accept today's news then that is your choice.

Oh, I read the link, mellie.  What I am asking of you mellie is to provide evidence that the opponents of the new Guy asked schools not to have pageants.

Just do that, and it will make sense of the OP.

::)

Contact the media to do your research for you.

Or have you such a short memory to political correctness that it now becomes an accepted event for you.

mellie, you said this, not the Media:


Quote:

Ted has given Victorians back the Christmas spirit by removing any bans on celebrating Christmas.

All I want you to do, as I often have in the past without any any or any satisfactory reply, is to provide any link which backs that claim up.  Please establish what these suggested bands were, and who made them.

;)

If you do not agree with the Herald Sun then you should be contacting the Herald Sun


Don't shoot the messenger.

Miss Anne Dryst wrote on Dec 1^st, 2010 at 9:36pm:

If you do not agree with the Herald Sun then you should be contacting the Herald Sun Don't shoot the messenger.

It will be great for the children to be able to utter the word Christmas at their pageants rather than have other words substituted.
Seems that these "substitutions" just become unnoticeable to some people.

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It will be great for the children to be able to utter the word Christmas at their pageants rather than have other words substituted. Seems that these "substitutions" just become unnoticeable to some people.

Certainly unnoticeable to me up here in Queensland.  Show is the evidence that children where you live in Victoria were not allowed to utter the word 'Christmas' at their pageants, and that other, and what other words, were substituted?

:D

Here you go Aussie

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/opinion/readers-comments

Try again, mellie.  That link has nil to do with the topic.

:)

You need to go to the link to express your concern


Don't shoot the messenger

I am shooting the messenger, you, mellie, because you posted this:


Quote:

Ted has given Victorians back the Christmas spirit by removing any bans on celebrating Christmas.

.....which is not backed up by the contents of the Article you linked.

You wrote that crap, and the Topic Title, and it is all strawman rubbish.

;D

It is an article by the Herald Sun


You do realise that don't you?

And you do realise that there are numerous other commentaries with that article don't you?



If you disagree then take it up with the Herald Sun


Don't shoot the messenger

This is a recording...


Miss Anne Dryst wrote on Dec 1^st, 2010 at 10:04pm:

Don't shoot the messenger

::)

Yes, I know that mellie.  But they did not write:


Quote:

Ted has given Victorians back the Christmas spirit by removing any bans on celebrating Christmas.

You did.

I want you to back that up with links showing where these bans were, and who made them.

;)

What's this about Baillieu removing inner suburban clearway zones before Xmas!?

Who has been calling for this and who else has he consulted!?

Does he really think that motorists and cyclists prefer daily traffic jams, road rage, rear-ending and car sandwiches over a clear run from points A to B!?

You need to contact the Herald Sun.
And if you have a complaint or need more information with their article then tell them.

You also need to refer to the additional commentaries with that article.
If you don't want to read or contact the HS then don't ask me for what you don't want to know or do.


I've given you the link for that.

Don't shoot the messenger

This should assist those that refuse to read the article/link:

"The warning comes after some schools and community groups imposed Christmas bans in recent years."

Quote:

The Premier said Victorians should embrace the festive season. He said schools should not back down from running Christmas pageants, concerts and nativity scenes for fear of offending minority groups.

This was found to be NOT the case
And it CERTAINLY had no input from "minority groups"

These so called "bans" in a number of schools were actually CANCELLATIONS

Parental, teacher enthusiasm with involvement had been diminishing for some time - not to mention budget

A SMALL number of schools jumped at the "out clause"

Let's land this one on the Muslims

Equitist wrote on Dec 1^st, 2010 at 10:12pm:

What's this about Baillieu removing inner suburban clearway zones before Xmas!? Who has been calling for this and who else has he consulted!? Does he really think that motorists and cyclists prefer daily traffic jams, road rage, rear-ending and car sandwiches over a clear run from points A to B!?

AL the complaints have come from 'strip' shopkeepers along the arteriels leading from the CBB to Melbourne's leafy outer suburbs

Clearways were extended an hour in the morning, going in
And an hour in the evening, going to work

At least this will prevent some schools and community groups imposing Christmas bans as they have in recent years.

Miss Anne Dryst wrote on Dec 3^rd, 2010 at 11:58am:

At least this will prevent some schools and community groups imposing Christmas bans as they have in recent years.

No it won't
Any more than it did from the same statement by then Premier, Steve Bracks - two premiers ago
Any school can do what it likes

This is NOT a piece of legislation

buzzanddidj wrote on Dec 3^rd, 2010 at 12:54pm:

Miss Anne Dryst wrote on Dec 3rd, 2010 at 11:58am: At least this will prevent some schools and community groups imposing Christmas bans as they have in recent years. No it won't Any more than it did from the same statement by then Premier, Steve Bracks - two premiers ago Any school can do what it likes This is NOT a piece of legislation

It's great now that Ted has given back Christmas to the community and stopped the banning of Christmas celebrations by some community groups and schools.

Let's hope that the Magic Of Ted spreads throughout the rest of Australia.

Quote:

Let's hope that the Magic Of Ted spreads throughout the rest of Australia.

Or, indeed, tthat "magic" of Steve Bracks ?
Let's FACE it ....
Lord Bailieu merely quoted a line from two premiers ago

Miss Anne Dryst wrote on Dec 3^rd, 2010 at 4:39pm:

It's great now that Ted has given back Christmas to the community and stopped the banning of Christmas celebrations by some community groups and schools.

This is one of the most bizarre examples of spin that I have seen.

It is almost as if Anne has her fingers in her ears and is saying la la la la.
She completely ignores these facts.

- Ted Baillieu has not passed any legislation
- Schools and Community groups are - and have always been - free to celebrate Christmas or not to celebrate it.
- The previous Labor government also encouraged schools and community groups to celebrate Christmas.

The_Barnacle wrote on Dec 4^th, 2010 at 8:15am:

Miss Anne Dryst wrote on Dec 3rd, 2010 at 4:39pm: It's great now that Ted has given back Christmas to the community and stopped the banning of Christmas celebrations by some community groups and schools. This is one of the most bizarre examples of spin that I have seen. It is almost as if Anne has her fingers in her ears and is saying la la la la. She completely ignores these facts. - Ted Baillieu has not passed any legislation - Schools and Community groups are - and have always been - free to celebrate Christmas or not to celebrate it. - The previous Labor government also encouraged schools and community groups to celebrate Christmas.

You are right, you are bizarre with your spin.

And you are sticking your fingers in your ears so you won't hear reality. I bet you also have your eyes shut, whilst shouting "i'm not listening...."
Let's look at the facts:
The warning comes after some schools and community groups imposed Christmas bans in recent years.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/special-reports/christmas-bans-are-off-says-ted-baillieu/story-fn5kmqy2-1225963537330

Well the lefties didn't believe it when schools would impose bans on Christmas celebrations, then guess they will be denying this.


Saint Nick sacked from Victorian pre-school so not to offend religious groups

http://www.news.com.au/features/christmasgiftguide/saint-nick-sacked-from-victorian-pre-school-so-not-to-offend-religious-groups/story-fn77atzo-1225967321414


More importantly it will be interesting to see what Ted does about it!

Miss Anne Dryst wrote on Dec 8^th, 2010 at 6:56am:

Well the lefties didn't believe it when schools would impose bans on Christmas celebrations, then guess they will be denying this. Saint Nick sacked from Victorian pre-school so not to offend religious groups http://www.news.com.au/features/christmasgiftguide/saint-nick-sacked-from-victorian-pre-school-so-not-to-offend-religious-groups/story-fn77atzo-1225967321414 More importantly it will be interesting to see what Ted does about it!

NOTHING

Watch this space

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But the centre is not budging, saying it is abiding by Montessori's philosophy to be inclusive of all religious and cultural groups

I'm suspecting the talk-back caller was not who she professed to be
(as is the case with MANY caller on "Radio Shock-Jock")

You DON'T pay a premium for Montessori philosopy and education - and then complain about it

Montessori is a secular education system, exactly like the public education sector.  This means that no particular religion is taught as part of the curriculum, but that all religions, and all peoples are respected.  Respect is a key component in a Montessori classroom - respect for the child, respect for the environment, respect for others and respect for oneself.

Religion is looked at from a cultural and sociological point of view.  Children are invited to explore the cultures throughout the world and can see that there are many different religions.

Many Montessori schools celebrate holidays, such as Christmas, Hanukah, and Chinese New Year, which are religious in origin, but they are experienced on a cultural level as special days of family feasting, merriment, and wonder.

Montessori schools are independently owned/operated.  As such, it is up to the individual school/centre to determine its own policies regarding holiday practices.

While Montessori does not teach religion, we do present the great moral and spiritual themes, such as love, kindness, joy, and confidence in the fundamental goodness of life in simple ways that encourage the child to begin the journey toward being fully alive and fully human.

There are approximately 25,000 Montessori schools throughout the world located in over 120 countries in a wide range of cultural and socio economic settings.
Montessori is a method of education and as such can be implemented in a variety of educational settings including public schools, independent schools, religious schools, preschools and long day care centres.  
http://montessori.org.au/questions/religion.htm

Miss Anne Dryst wrote on Dec 8^th, 2010 at 6:56am:

Well the lefties didn't believe it when schools would impose bans on Christmas celebrations, then guess they will be denying this. Saint Nick sacked from Victorian pre-school so not to offend religious groups http://www.news.com.au/features/christmasgiftguide/saint-nick-sacked-from-victorian-pre-school-so-not-to-offend-religious-groups/story-fn77atzo-1225967321414 More importantly it will be interesting to see what Ted does about it!

Well Bracks tried something similar when some schools, kindies, community groups were banning Christmas.
Guess the lefties have forgotten about that.
Maybe Ted won't be a failure like Bracks was (7/11/06).

"The memo was sent to principals and school councils on October 24. Premier Steve Bracks last year encouraged schools to celebrate Christmas after some schools banned it for fear of offending non-Christian children.

A school in the outer northern suburbs was accused two years ago of taking Christmas out of festive celebrations.

Parents complained that the school had banned carols, saying "Merry Christmas" and even placed restrictions on festive wrap.

But the school denied the ban, saying their concert was focused on student work rather than the festive season. Kindergartens and childcare centres have also previously not allowed Santa in."

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/victoria/students-can-skip-christmas/story-e6frf7kx-1111112480061

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Well Bracks tried something similar when some schools, kindies, community groups were banning Christmas. Guess the lefties have forgotten about that

If you scroll back, you will see it was I that pointed out Teddy's C&P from Bracks' press release - 5 odd years previous

I have to wonder why the left is so agitated by Baillieu's actions ?
How does this hurt their Australia hating agenda?

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I have to wonder why the left is so agitated by Baillieu's actions ?

"Actions" ?

The only "actions" I have seen, so far, is the wholesale dropping and "modifying on consultation" of election policy


http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1291167686




Aside from repeating Steve Bracks' "Christmas pledge", what "actions" do you refer to ?

aussiefree2ride wrote on Dec 8^th, 2010 at 1:13pm:

I have to wonder why the left is so agitated by Baillieu's actions ? How does this hurt their Australia hating agenda?

The lefties are a weird mob aussie.
They initially claimed that no schools were banning Christmas.
That was proved wrong and again it has been.
Then they claim excuses.
No, the issue is banning Christmas.
Pretty simple or you'd think so.
The lefties always twist themselves up in knots.

But when Bracks failed to act when schools were banning Christmas Ted says he will act.
Will need to see if he will now.

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But when Bracks failed to act when schools were banning Christmas Ted says he will act. Will need to see if he will now.

Pity it's not a subject of on line betting

Do you think he can create legislation that forces a PRIVATE pre-school to  employ a Santa* and wrap the school in tinsel* ?

Do you think he'd BOTHER ?

Or a STATE education institution, for that matter






(*Neither of which have ANYTHING to do with the Christian festival)

And yet it was applauded when Bracks adopted this.


As said earlier, lefties really are a weird mob.

Miss Anne Dryst wrote on Dec 8^th, 2010 at 6:02pm:

And yet it was applauded when Bracks adopted this. As said earlier, lefties really are a weird mob.

We preferred the ORIGINAL over the C&P

5 pages eh.

Brilliant.

Yes the lefties had a selective memory lapse when they immediately went into the denial stage.

Oh it's a bit like the doll and bear shop having to take their Mammy dolls off display because a certain American talk show host might be offended.


A MELBOURNE doll shop has withdrawn a golliwog from its display to avoid offending the Oprah Winfrey roadshow.

The store removed the "Mammy" dolls after a visit by Oprah's production company.

But the Dafel Dolls and Bears shop in Block Arcade - where 110 of Oprah's guests will attend a cocktail party tomorrow night - will continue to display other golliwogs.

Golliwogs are deeply offensive to Americans because of their perceived links to slavery and racism.  

The store owner declined to comment because she had signed a confidentiality agreement with Harpo productions, but confirmed a meeting had taken place.

"Oprah's people came ... and yes it was discussed," a source familiar with the agreement told the Herald Sun.

"As a result, they won't have that particular doll on display. But there will be plenty of other gollies when they come through."

The golliwogs still on display at Dafel's have an explanatory note on the origins of the black dolls, a throwback to the toys enjoyed by Egyptian children when British troops occupied the country in the late 1800s.

Dafel's has sold dolls and toys, including golliwogs, in the Block Arcade since 1945.

Last year Australia faced international condemnation when American singer Harry Connick Jr expressed his shock at Hey Hey It's Saturday for broadcasting a minstrel sketch and asking him to judge the performance.

UK publishing company Macdonalds, which put out the Noddy books featuring a gang of golliwogs, decided in 1987 the dolls were racially derogatory.

But golliwog defenders say they have nothing to do with racism and are seen by children as just bright and friendly dolls.

nichy wrote on Dec 9^th, 2010 at 2:56pm:

But golliwog defenders say they have nothing to do with racism and are seen by children as just bright and friendly dolls.

They are for children in Australia. And the shop is in Australia.

Oprah should just leave her racist baggage on the shores of the USA.

Miss Anne Dryst wrote on Dec 11^th, 2010 at 8:00am:

nichy wrote on Dec 9th, 2010 at 2:56pm: But golliwog defenders say they have nothing to do with racism and are seen by children as just bright and friendly dolls. They are for children in Australia. And the shop is in Australia. Oprah should just leave her racist baggage on the shores of the USA.

Hope all the other toy shops around Australia also withdrew their Barbie dolls for the demeaning projectioning of women.
And withdrawal their GI Joe dolls for the violent depiction of men.

Miss Anne Dryst wrote on Dec 11^th, 2010 at 8:00am:

nichy wrote on Dec 9th, 2010 at 2:56pm: But golliwog defenders say they have nothing to do with racism and are seen by children as just bright and friendly dolls. They are for children in Australia. And the shop is in Australia. Oprah should just leave her racist baggage on the shores of the USA.

I hope Teddy - as well as making Christmas pantomines mandatory - will also legislate on golliwogs in toyshop windows, after the Bracks/Brumby Government had them banned

Baillieu can do no worse than the previous Premier.

Locking up people for being on their own land.
Dredging the bay despite widespread protest.
Having people pay tens of thousands in stamp duty.
Fining people for speeding more than any other state yet having a faster rising road death toll under him.
Myki fiasco.
Corrupt police.
Asian and ethnic violence.
Racist attacks across Melbourne on Indian students.


All in all Victoria became a shithole under him and the grease monkey before him.

Hopefully Ted makes it a better place for decent people again.

I reckon my current cost of living in San Diego is 60% what it was in Melbourne.

Why is that?

Taxes and all the other additional add ons that Victoria and Australia cost me.

Do something about it Ted!

buzzanddidj wrote on Dec 11^th, 2010 at 9:13am:

Miss Anne Dryst wrote on Dec 11th, 2010 at 8:00am: nichy wrote on Dec 9th, 2010 at 2:56pm: But golliwog defenders say they have nothing to do with racism and are seen by children as just bright and friendly dolls. They are for children in Australia. And the shop is in Australia. Oprah should just leave her racist baggage on the shores of the USA. I hope Teddy - as well as making Christmas pantomines mandatory - will also legislate on golliwogs in toyshop windows, after the Bracks/Brumby Government had them banned

Your SORE LOSER attitude is getting old, buzzard.

longweekend58 wrote on Dec 11^th, 2010 at 9:48am:

buzzanddidj wrote on Dec 11th, 2010 at 9:13am: Miss Anne Dryst wrote on Dec 11th, 2010 at 8:00am: nichy wrote on Dec 9th, 2010 at 2:56pm: But golliwog defenders say they have nothing to do with racism and are seen by children as just bright and friendly dolls. They are for children in Australia. And the shop is in Australia. Oprah should just leave her racist baggage on the shores of the USA. I hope Teddy - as well as making Christmas pantomines mandatory - will also legislate on golliwogs in toyshop windows, after the Bracks/Brumby Government had them banned Your SORE LOSER attitude is getting old, buzzard.

 



As I stated PREVIOUSLY
VICTORIA is the "loser"

I am one of the few WINNERS

The Liberals and Nationals are DETERMINED to reclaim their "birthright" and "holy grail" - the Victorian electorates of Ballarat East and West

These will be the most "pork-barrelled" electorates in the state over the next four years






BALLARAT District Nursing and Healthcare will receive $1.8 million to upgrade its headquarters under a Coalition government.
Opposition leader Ted Baillieu announced the funding during a visit to Ballarat this morning.

http://www.thecourier.com.au/news/local/news/general/funding-pledge-for-ballarat-health-care-provider/1957406.aspx



THE Coalition has boosted its pitch to local voters promising $38 million to build the Ballarat Western Link Road, if it is elected tomorrow.

During a visit to Ballarat yesterday, Opposition Leader Ted Baillieu announced a Coalition government would build the Western Link Road between the Western Freeway and Remembrance Drive.

If elected, the Coalition would spend $10 million to begin planning and acquisition works in the first two years of its term, followed by an additional $28 million to complete the project

http://www.thecourier.com.au/news/local/news/general/38m-coalition-pledge-for-western-link-road/2008798.aspx



VICTORIANS have back a Liberal Party plan to boost the number of police on the streets should they win the election.

Opposition Leader Ted Baillieu pledged a massive drive to lure officers from interstate as well as training new members with an $8 million boost for the Police Academy.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/state-opposition-leader-ted-baillieu-pledges-big-police-recruiting-drive/story-e6frf7jo-1225850079310



THE Coalition has stepped up its election campaign with an $18 million pledge to upgrade Sebastopol College.

http://www.thecourier.com.au/news/local/news/general/coalition-pledges-18m-for-sebastopol-college/1988262.aspx



So far the biggest election pledge to regional Victoria has been $630 million from the Coalition and $528 million from Labor to rebuild Bendigo Hospital.

Mr Baillieu has also promised $88.4 million for Ballarat Health Services, $2 million for a helipad at Ballarat Hospital and $1.8 million to redevelop Ballarat District Nursing and Healthcare's facilities.

http://www.weeklytimesnow.com.au/article/2010/11/19/261261_politics-news.html






Deflect, as you will - but I note NO-ONE has tey come to Ted's defence on the abandonment of the ...

Bushfire prone land buyback

Replacement of over with underground powerlines in rural Victoria

The "two armed police on every rail station" decision will now be left to the discretion of the police minister


The "stop the windfarms" policy would, "on consultation", result in "hurting the Victorian economy"




"We Can Do Better" (or maybe not ?)

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1291167686

yawwwwwwwwwn, you're becomg boring buzz.

We know you pay nothing into the state or country - others do though and they were let down by Brumby.

Hence we booted him out.

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Dec 11^th, 2010 at 10:53am:

yawwwwwwwwwn, you're becomg boring buzz. We know you pay nothing into the state or country - others do though and they were let down by Brumby.

I paid income-tax on 36 years of full-time employment
I now pay it on part-time employment
I pay it on GST

Would you begrudge a pensioner, who pays NO income-tax, a say in the running of this country

And given his wholesale dumping of core policy, what do you see Lord Baillieu doing differently ?

buzzanddidj wrote on Dec 11^th, 2010 at 11:19am:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Dec 11th, 2010 at 10:53am: yawwwwwwwwwn, you're becomg boring buzz. We know you pay nothing into the state or country - others do though and they were let down by Brumby. I paid income-tax on 36 years of full-time employment I now pay it on part-time employment I pay it on GST Would you begrudge a pensioner, who pays NO income-tax, a say in the running of this country And given his wholesale dumping of core policy, what do you see Lord Baillieu doing differently ?

You right to vote as you please is undeniable. your right to WHINGE INCESSANTLY ABOUT LOSING is not.

buzzanddidj wrote on Dec 11^th, 2010 at 11:19am:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Dec 11th, 2010 at 10:53am: yawwwwwwwwwn, you're becomg boring buzz. We know you pay nothing into the state or country - others do though and they were let down by Brumby. I paid income-tax on 36 years of full-time employment I now pay it on part-time employment I pay it on GST Would you begrudge a pensioner, who pays NO income-tax, a say in the running of this country And given his wholesale dumping of core policy, what do you see Lord Baillieu doing differently ?

Id ask you then to explain why you support Gillard dumping ALL her election promies but Im sure you would only use the rogue excuse or some other hypocritical excuse.

longweekend58 wrote on Dec 11^th, 2010 at 11:24am:

buzzanddidj wrote on Dec 11th, 2010 at 11:19am: Andrei.Hicks wrote on Dec 11th, 2010 at 10:53am: yawwwwwwwwwn, you're becomg boring buzz. We know you pay nothing into the state or country - others do though and they were let down by Brumby. I paid income-tax on 36 years of full-time employment I now pay it on part-time employment I pay it on GST Would you begrudge a pensioner, who pays NO income-tax, a say in the running of this country ? And given his wholesale dumping of core policy, what do you see Lord Baillieu doing differently ? Id ask you then to explain why you support Gillard dumping ALL her election promies but Im sure you would only use the rogue excuse or some other hypocritical excuse.

Is that the ANSWER ?


Gillard's only "back-flip" on election policy was a return to action on climate change
THAT was "good back-flip" and a show of courage in admitting you were wrong

buzzanddidj wrote on Dec 11^th, 2010 at 11:45am:

longweekend58 wrote on Dec 11th, 2010 at 11:24am: buzzanddidj wrote on Dec 11th, 2010 at 11:19am: Andrei.Hicks wrote on Dec 11th, 2010 at 10:53am: yawwwwwwwwwn, you're becomg boring buzz. We know you pay nothing into the state or country - others do though and they were let down by Brumby. I paid income-tax on 36 years of full-time employment I now pay it on part-time employment I pay it on GST Would you begrudge a pensioner, who pays NO income-tax, a say in the running of this country ? And given his wholesale dumping of core policy, what do you see Lord Baillieu doing differently ? Id ask you then to explain why you support Gillard dumping ALL her election promies but Im sure you would only use the rogue excuse or some other hypocritical excuse. Is that the ANSWER ? Gillard's only "back-flip" on election policy was a return to action on climate change THAT was "good back-flip" and a show of courage in admitting you were wrong

oh the irony...

PURE HYPOCRISY

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oh the irony... PURE HYPOCRISY

What "hypocricy" ?





(and look who learned how to do LARGE PRINT today ?)


JOLLY WELL DONE !

You might want to mimick his spelling, if you don't his choice of font size.