Cringworthy sums it up.
Gillard omg, such an embarrasment isn't she.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/hoges-and-cartoon-kangaroo-star-in-world-cup-bid/story-e6frf7jo-1225964268442

I don't beleive Australia will get the world cup  for 2022 anyway.
As Australia falls under the region of Asia, and China has already made an impressive bid for the 2026 cup.
Further America seems to be in the front with Qatar.

What can Australai offer?
Looking at the video then it's not much.
Why wasn't it hammered home that Australia has proved that it can host such world events. Refering to the 1958 Olympics (Friendly Games) and the 2000 Olympics (Best Games Ever).

And that Melbourne always finishes in the top 3 of the World's Most Liveable Cities.


The video excludes these attributes.

As said at the start, cringworthy -yes?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ogzjfJtg3TA

Will FIFA really be convinced by an animated kangaroo?

And what was Julia thinking?


It looks like another waste of millions of dollars ($45).
Who forked out this money, Julia?

We won't get it! and we don't deserve to. We showed more AFL highlights than football. We are not a football nation, we never should have wasted the $45m, besides we are in a bad time zone as far as tv airing goes.

Was it "This is your Life Frank Lowy"?.......and get rid of Paul Hogan and his botox face.

We were trying to convince football people that we have a passion for the game. We couldn't do it because we don't rate football very high on our sports ladder. Maybe because they haven't raped anyone. Rugby League and AFL increase in popularity with every new rape claim.

Anyway, I'm sort of glad that lots of people still say "where is Australia."

Miss Anne Dryst wrote on Dec 2^nd, 2010 at 6:36am:

Cringworthy sums it up. Gillard omg, such an embarrasment isn't she. http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/hoges-and-cartoon-kangaroo-star-in-world-cup-bid/story-e6frf7jo-1225964268442 I don't beleive Australia will get the world cup  for 2022 anyway. As Australia falls under the region of Asia, and China has already made an impressive bid for the 2026 cup. Further America seems to be in the front with Qatar. What can Australai offer? Looking at the video then it's not much. Why wasn't it hammered home that Australia has proved that it can host such world events. Refering to the 1958 Olympics (Friendly Games) and the 2000 Olympics (Best Games Ever). And that Melbourne always finishes in the top 3 of the World's Most Liveable Cities. The video excludes these attributes. As said at the start, cringworthy -yes?

You wont get any argument out of me , Gillard is as embarrassing as it gets. Unprofessional just doesn't cut it I'm afraid, this woman should audition for a part on 'Home and Away', not be leading the country.

She's a clown.

:-[

I haven't seen it.

A blowup kangaroo, killrudd in her nasaly condescending tone, crocodile dundee ...........

good, soccer is a poo game, I don't want it here.

I thought that Australia and the USA were the only places where soccer is played.

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We couldn't do it because we don't rate football very high on our sports ladder. Maybe because they haven't raped anyone.

Maybe not, but they have their underage sex scandals.

I can just hear Julia Gillard as Australia's latest refugee tourism ambassador....

" So, where the hell are'ya, move forward to Australia"

The twit!

::)

Miss Anne Dryst wrote on Dec 2^nd, 2010 at 6:36am:

I don't beleive Australia will get the world cup  for 2022 anyway. As Australia falls under the region of Asia, and China has already made an impressive bid for the 2026 cup. Further America seems to be in the front with Qatar.

China's not made any bid. At all.

And there is far more to a bid than the video, including the bid papers which have outlined our ability to host world class events. This was also raised in a FIFA commissioned report, so there's not a great deal of use trying to force home a point that's already been 'sold'. Though it should be noted that there were numerous references relating to our ability to host major sporting events, including the tennis, F1 etc.

While I wasn't entirely convinced about our bid video, it's not us that the FFA is trying to convince, but FIFA. Remember, much of the same was said about our bid for the 2000 Olympic games.

Though I still think it will go elsewhere, probably Qatar.

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Dec 2^nd, 2010 at 7:39am:

We won't get it! and we don't deserve to. We showed more AFL highlights than football. We are not a football nation, we never should have wasted the $45m, besides we are in a bad time zone as far as tv airing goes.

We aren't in THAT bad a time zone considering:

a) games shown in the evening here will be broadcast in the morning in Europe and the USA (and not that early in the morning).

b) by 2022, there will be far more viewers in Asia (in OUR time zone) than there will be in both Europe and the USA. I'm quiet certain this is already the case.

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Dec 2^nd, 2010 at 7:39am:

We were trying to convince football people that we have a passion for the game. We couldn't do it because we don't rate football very high on our sports ladder. Maybe because they haven't raped anyone. Rugby League and AFL increase in popularity with every new rape claim. "

Who was raped? Are you saying that no one has ever been raped by a soccer player?  Or that no skank ever falsely accused anyone of anything?

Get over it Gillard and femmos, the only ones who care about our hosting the cup here in Australia, and enough to create some sort of commercial, (if this is what it was supposed to be) are either gay or femonazis who hate football.

No wonder Gillard jumped at the chance...hahaha

Pity no one else gives a stuff what you want Gillard...

;D

aussiefree2ride wrote on Dec 2^nd, 2010 at 2:34pm:

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Dec 2nd, 2010 at 7:39am: We were trying to convince football people that we have a passion for the game. We couldn't do it because we don't rate football very high on our sports ladder. Maybe because they haven't raped anyone. Rugby League and AFL increase in popularity with every new rape claim. " Who was raped? Are you saying that no one has ever been raped by a soccer player?  Or that no skank ever falsely accused anyone of anything?

Oh because only football players have rape penises you see, well according to Pansys logic. eeerm, well, a lack there of.

::)

mellie wrote on Dec 2^nd, 2010 at 2:45pm:

Get over it Gillard and femmos, the only ones who care about our hosting the cup here in Australia, and enough to create some sort of commercial, (if this is what it was supposed to be) are either gay or femonazis who hate football

Frank Lowly is a gay femonazi?

Jaykaye_09 wrote on Dec 2^nd, 2010 at 2:49pm:

mellie wrote on Dec 2nd, 2010 at 2:45pm: Get over it Gillard and femmos, the only ones who care about our hosting the cup here in Australia, and enough to create some sort of commercial, (if this is what it was supposed to be) are either gay or femonazis who hate football Frank Lowly is a gay femonazi?

Look, football is Australia's iconic national sport, thus there's been an increasing demand to not only alter the culture of our nations people, but our politics and sports also.

See, Asians cant beat us at our own game, so the ALP does it's best to improvise.


Sport is and always has been heavily politicised...leftys, femonazis and gays notoriously prefer soccer to football, this is why there's been such a push for soccer in recent years here in Australia, this and an overall smearing of football players and the game itself.

See, even the tiny Chinese can play Soccer, without the risk of sustaining a brain injury for at least half the game.

;D...I think Gillard and China see it as a way of de-manning our national sport.

I can just see them now...having pedicures and burning bras on the oval half time with little pink ribbons pinned to their chests drinking pink lemonades out of their sippy-cups..

Look, I don't mind soccer as a game, but really don't think Australians on the whole give a damn about the cup, and or if it should come to Australia.

I think Australians prefer their PM's to lead the country, this opposed to bog themselves down in diversional and inconsequential tabloid BS like this for a little ALP PR.

::) "Ok, the economy's f*cked, and the costs of living have sky rocketed but we have the cup here in Australia"- Gillrud inc

Australians cant even afford to throw a prawn on the barby this Xmas, much less buy tickets to see a pack of punces kicking a ball around a soccer field.

Sounds like Gillard needs to get her priorities in order...FAST!

::)

mellie wrote on Dec 2^nd, 2010 at 3:05pm:

Jaykaye_09 wrote on Dec 2nd, 2010 at 2:49pm: mellie wrote on Dec 2nd, 2010 at 2:45pm: Get over it Gillard and femmos, the only ones who care about our hosting the cup here in Australia, and enough to create some sort of commercial, (if this is what it was supposed to be) are either gay or femonazis who hate football Frank Lowly is a gay femonazi? Look, football is Australia's iconic national sport, thus there's been an increasing demand to not only alter the culture of our nations people, but our politics and sports also. Sport is and always has been heavily politicised...leftys, femonazis and gays notoriously prefer soccer to football, this is why there's been such a push for soccer in recent years here in Australia, this and an overall smearing of football players and the game itself. Look, I don't mind soccer as a game, but really don't think Australians on the whole give a damn about the cup, and or if it should come to Australia.

There's probably a fair few in NSW and QLD who would argue against 'football' being the national sport (though football here can refer to any of the three codes, so I'm not exactly sure what you're on about).

And you know Abbott was supportive of the bid as well, right?

Football (soccer) enjoyed quiet a bit of success in Australia before it fell on it's own sword, mostly through poor administration. There was a report commissioned by the HOWARD government (the Crawford Report), which attempted to address the problems which had arisen, and to some extent, did so.

Seriously Mellie, try to distance yourself from the cultural stereotypes that are so very far from the reality. You really know nothing about sport in this country. Certainly not football (soccer).

It's very, very lame.

Lets face it - Oz doesn't have enough interest in the sport to warrant a bid.  Sure, we like a spectacle, and they don't come much bigger than the soccer world cup, but I don't think the 'big event fever' would be enough to sustain interest for a whole month, especially not during NRL/AFL season.

It's one thing to be supportive of something, but to make an idiot of yourself on national television in a stupid commercial with a kangaroo is an entirely different ball game, not to mention a waste of time and money.

::)

... wrote on Dec 2^nd, 2010 at 3:33pm:

Lets face it - Oz doesn't have enough interest in the sport to warrant a bid.  Sure, we like a spectacle, and they don't come much bigger than the soccer world cup, but I don't think the 'big event fever' would be enough to sustain interest for a whole month, especially not during NRL/AFL season.

Agreed, and whilst I think Soccer is indeed starting to catch on, we are far from world-cup status, I mean, how well did we fare in the world cup last time?

Last wasn't it.

;D

Speaking of cultural stereotypes, Jayk, I didn't see you agree/disagree with pansy when he/she claimed that footballers score points in accordance with how many woman they have raped, so I guess this brand of stigmata is acceptable then?

Face it, no one really gives a damn about soccer, we prefer footy here in Australia.

Or were empty stadiums the look you were going for next season?


Never mind, we could always offer school kids free passes to put bums on seats I guess like they did during the Olympics in India recently when local people weren't keen on some events over there also.


Personally, I cant wait for the World Cup ping-pong challenge...hehehe

;D Why stop at just Soccer...

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_18xktH6Eobk/TBwPQ9cRyZI/AAAAAAAAHmM/HTDvjfrV-Nk/s1600/Gay+Soccer+1.jpg

Soccer is just so incredibly..... GAY!!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5xLn-X8YJRg


I actually prefer watching soccer to football, though just cant see a bunch of guys getting it on in stadium full of people in Australia.

:) Better luck next year.

I really liked this...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IjynbUNlvWU&feature=related

;D

I watched that Kangaroo thaing for the first time.  If that was the sole basis for selling the bid, then it would not would succeed.  However, I am quite sure it was just a small and final component of a long campaign on the part of the Australian Committee headed by Lowey.

You know what I found to be cringe-worthy?  The lousy mean spirited, perhaps even bigoted negative comments made just because the PM of Australia symbolically threw her support behind the bid by participating in the Film, which I thought was quite positive, and cheekily very Australian.

If Abbott had appeared in his dick togs no doubt mellie would have had multiple orgasms about it.

:)

The irony is that the promo claims that Australia is safe and secure, and yet Gillard cannot stop the invasion of boat people!

mellie wrote on Dec 2^nd, 2010 at 4:16pm:

I really liked this... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IjynbUNlvWU&feature=related ;D

He just wants to be a player's jock strap.

Just watching this makes you feel as if you have a hangover

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eVkFVgqhYlk&feature=fvw

Miss Anne Dryst wrote on Dec 2^nd, 2010 at 4:27pm:

The irony is that the promo claims that Australia is safe and secure, and yet Gillard cannot stop the invasion of boat people!

Ferfuxsake, mellie, can you even just once be positive and support what is a multi million dollar bid being made by Australia to host the World Cup, and if that bid succeeds now, someone like Hayseed (my nick name for Howard) may be reaping the political rewards if the bid succeeds.  Not only that, it will be a financial, cultural and international bonanza for Australia.

But, nah, not you mellie.  You'd rather take the cheap political shots and put poo on Australia's bid.

Good onya.  Yer a bugger wit.

:)

... wrote on Dec 2^nd, 2010 at 3:33pm:

Lets face it - Oz doesn't have enough interest in the sport to warrant a bid.  Sure, we like a spectacle, and they don't come much bigger than the soccer world cup, but I don't think the 'big event fever' would be enough to sustain interest for a whole month, especially not during NRL/AFL season.

Viewing figures during prior World Cups involving Australia would seriously test that theory.

There is no doubt whatsoever that it would maintain not only our interest, but the interest of those who will inevitably come to see the event.

mellie wrote on Dec 2^nd, 2010 at 3:43pm:

Speaking of cultural stereotypes, Jayk, I didn't see you agree/disagree with pansy when he/she claimed that footballers score points in accordance with how many woman they have raped, so I guess this brand of stigmata is acceptable then?

Because this isn't a thread about AFL or the NRL. However, for what it's worth, I find that suggestion to be equally stupid as your own.

mellie wrote on Dec 2^nd, 2010 at 3:35pm:

... wrote on Dec 2nd, 2010 at 3:33pm: Lets face it - Oz doesn't have enough interest in the sport to warrant a bid.  Sure, we like a spectacle, and they don't come much bigger than the soccer world cup, but I don't think the 'big event fever' would be enough to sustain interest for a whole month, especially not during NRL/AFL season. Agreed, and whilst I think Soccer is indeed starting to catch on, we are far from world-cup status, I mean, how well did we fare in the world cup last time? Last wasn't it. ;D

No Mellie.

Check again you dolt.

And after the US hosted it in 1998, FIFA wanted to have another go there.

So seems pretty well home & hosed that the USA will get it.
They have the forecasted numbers that give the best return.


Australia should get Wayne to submit his forecasted hypotheticals. They'd blow the US's out of the water!

Miss Anne Dryst wrote on Dec 2^nd, 2010 at 4:40pm:

And after the US hosted it in 1998, FIFA wanted to have another go there. So seems pretty well home & hosed that the USA will get it. They have the forecasted numbers that give the best return. Australia should get Wayne to submit his forecasted hypotheticals. They'd blow the US's out of the water!

The US hosted it in 1994.

Despite my doubts that Australia will get it (I'm guessing it will be Qatar or the United States), seriously, stop pretending you have any idea about football.

Ok have added the actual video bid

Miss Anne Dryst wrote on Dec 2^nd, 2010 at 4:40pm:

And after the US hosted it in 1998, FIFA wanted to have another go there. So seems pretty well home & hosed that the USA will get it. They have the forecasted numbers that give the best return. Australia should get Wayne to submit his forecasted hypotheticals. They'd blow the US's out of the water!

The US sees soccer as a girls sport.

Goes to show they're not as stupid as people make out.

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The US sees soccer as a girls sport.

Which 'US' are you talking about, mellie?

Aussie wrote on Dec 2^nd, 2010 at 5:51pm:

Quote: The US sees soccer as a girls sport. Which 'US' are you talking about, mellie?

I'm mellie too now am I?

Tell me, how long have you been having these hallucinations?

... wrote on Dec 2^nd, 2010 at 6:02pm:

Aussie wrote on Dec 2nd, 2010 at 5:51pm: Quote: The US sees soccer as a girls sport. Which 'US' are you talking about, mellie? I'm mellie too now am I? Tell me, how long have you been having these hallucinations?

He fantasisies about her and sees her everywhere.
Plus he gets all his nicks confused, so he is bound to get their characters all muddled up.

Nah, it is easy for me.  I have only one nick here.....'Aussie.'

8-)

Keep saying that as you may even convince yourself.
But nobody else.

Aussie wrote on Dec 2^nd, 2010 at 6:12pm:

Nah, it is easy for me.  I have only one nick here.....'Aussie.' 8-)

Yeah me too mate - the one and only wesley pipes.

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Keep saying that as you may even convince yourself. But nobody else.

8-)

Aussie, calling everybody Mellie is getting old. Give it a rest. She may be a few accounts here but most of the time you're way off with your accusations.

JC Denton wrote on Dec 2^nd, 2010 at 6:17pm:

Aussie, calling everybody Mellie is getting old. Give it a rest. She may be a few accounts here but most of the time you're way off with your accusations.

Nah.  I am on the money every time.  When I see some pro-active Mod intervention on this crappola, I'll desist.  Okay?

[Even you agree 'she may be a few accounts here.....which ones do you suspect?]

Codswal, Miss Anne (maybe), SandySquirrel. Those are my guesses. She isn't Longweekend or Wesley at all.

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She isn't Longweekend or Wesley at all.

Yes, she is.  mellie is very clever at this deception, as you have confirmed.  She knows how to hide them, and almost get away with it.  She also knows I am an unpaid Bounty Hunter right up her clacker.  

I should not have to do the job for the Mods.

:)

I'm actually really impressed out how quickly soccer has been been pushed to front in Australian sport. I have no doubt that the local interest will be there by 2022, if it isn't already. The guys at work go on about it so much I now feel uncomfortable calling it gay.

I haven't noticed that at all.

Soccer is a boring game for third world fags. There is something fishy about a sport that a lot of third worlders like.

Which parts of Europe, America, Australia, Asia, the Middle East are part of your 'third world?'

Asia- almost all of it
Middle East- filled with third world people, not third world  on a national level by the virtue of the fact that it found black stuff in the ground
America- South & Latin Ameica

Europe is the exception.

p.s in case you haven't figured it out i am trolling

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Soccer is a boring game for third world fags.

This too, was a troll?

The first bit (it is boring) was my opinion, but the second bit was.

Yeah, that's what Australia is crying out for - another sport to take too seriously. There are only 3 - or 8?- so far. Gotta get nuts over another one, otherwise what will the rest of the world think of us???




Seriously, one of the great things about Australia - there are many more - is that it has not given a sh!t about a stupid thing like soccer.
What next? Handball??

Soren wrote on Dec 2^nd, 2010 at 9:06pm:

Yeah, that's what Australia is crying out for - another sport to take too seriously. There are only 3 - or 8?- so far. Gotta get nuts over another one, otherwise what will the rest of the world think of us??? Seriously, one of the great things about Australia - there are many more - is that it has not given a sh!t about a stupid thing like soccer. What next? Handball??

And it cost Australia $45 million.
More wasted money by the Rudd/Gillard govt!

How much has Julia paid to Oprah to turn up to Australia?

Miss Anne Dryst wrote on Dec 2^nd, 2010 at 9:34pm:

How much has Julia paid to Oprah to turn up to Australia?

And what the bugger does that have to do with this, your own Thead?

8-)

Give it a rest Aussie/Skippy/Ernie and your whole army of other names will you.

Miss Anne Dryst wrote on Dec 2^nd, 2010 at 9:33pm:

And it cost Australia $45 million. More wasted money by the Rudd/Gillard govt!

I'm pretty sure you'll find the Liberal government to have been in support of the bid (and the financial contribution).

Soren wrote on Dec 2^nd, 2010 at 9:06pm:

Seriously, one of the great things about Australia - there are many more - is that it has not given a sh!t about a stupid thing like soccer.

I reckon it has.

No, wait a minute. It definitely has.

It's a game for Brit proles and continental proles-at-heart. ANyone else who tags along does so in the hope of appearing cosmopolitan. But they are just rubbing up against eurotrash (or worse).

Professional sport is a pretty moronic notion across the board. Falling for the slick marketing of it as the 'beautiful game' is doubly stupid.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FVKkUO8m4cs

Soccer - complete prats.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3qpE8WZMt8&feature=related

Soren wrote on Dec 2^nd, 2010 at 10:43pm:

It's a game for Brit proles and continental proles-at-heart. Anyone else who tags along does so in the hope of appearing cosmopolitan. But they are just rubbing up against eurotrash (or worse). Professional sport is a pretty moronic notion across the board. Falling for the slick marketing of it as the 'beautiful game' is doubly stupid.

Yeah, wacky concept that people could actually follow a professional sport, and the sports from which they are based. I mean, who in their right mind would enjoy that?

And I'm sure all the people who watched the World Cup, or send their children off to play are one of those three things.

I wonder Soren, did you find yourself falling over a lot as a child playing sport? Did the ball tend to get the better of you?

I think so.

Good call on the videos of cheating players though. I've never seen anybody else conduct themselves in such a manner, in any sport, or indeed, any sort of activity in life.

Some very interesting (if misguided) views on soccer.....

Considering that there are probably more soccer teams in NSW than NRL or AFL teams....

yes, 90 % in the under 10's

Very hard to stomach, but not remotely unexpected.

Qatar hosting a World Cup is absolutely ridiculous though. People here talk about the perceived lack of interest in the game (incidentally, Australians bought the third most tickets for matches in the 2010 World Cup), but Australia has less than 2 million people FFS.

And it's tiny, so who knows how they're going to manage. Adding to which, it's going to be a terribly sterile, dull event.

Feel for England too, but absolutely astounded that Qatar has won (despite my saying they would).

Well Australia did better than I anticipated, they got 1 vote- probably their own.

mellie wrote on Dec 2^nd, 2010 at 3:35pm:

Agreed, and whilst I think Soccer is indeed starting to catch on, we are far from world-cup status, I mean, how well did we fare in the world cup last time? Last wasn't it. ;D

Think that Australia finished 21st, which wasn't bad, still beat New Zealand (22nd). The previous World Cup champs Italy finished 26th and also France (29th).

Now to conclude Gillards enthusiasm re- her soccer world-cup bid I will leave you with the clip which embarrassed a nation.

Honestly, my mouth dried up when I watched this, as much as I cant stand her, I felt embarrassed for her, on my own behalf.

It's a shocker...*cringe*
http://www.abc.net.au/news/video/2010/12/02/3082171.htm



Can anyone tell me how long this short film cost to make?

::)

Miss Anne Dryst wrote on Dec 3^rd, 2010 at 6:28am:

Well Australia did better than I anticipated, they got 1 vote- probably their own.

Please tell me you didn't say that.....LOL LOL LOL

Jaykaye_09 wrote on Dec 3^rd, 2010 at 3:53am:

Very hard to stomach, but not remotely unexpected. Qatar hosting a World Cup is absolutely ridiculous though. People here talk about the perceived lack of interest in the game (incidentally, Australians bought the third most tickets for matches in the 2010 World Cup), but Australia has less than 2 million people FFS. And it's tiny, so who knows how they're going to manage. Adding to which, it's going to be a terribly sterile, dull event. Feel for England too, but absolutely astounded that Qatar has won (despite my saying they would).

Not to mention that it will be 45 degrees in the shade, and absolutely nothing else to see apart from the games. It really was a bad choice. It could be a risky place to go too, but who knows what will transpire in the next 12 years regarding the middle east. Suppose I'll have to go to Brazil, they love football and know how to party.

We mustn't blame Qatar, we must look at ourselves. We really had nothing to offer. We can't expect the world to come here and offer them cricket ovals and AFL stadiums to watch the game in. Qatar are building stadiums in the shape of a boat and a shell....wow factor! and the stadiums will be dismantled and given to developing countries, well they were assured of some votes there.

The kangaroo video that had trouble mentioning football would have not gone down well. All the other countries talked about their passion for football, not us. Qatar also has a sustainable league that is not going broke.

FIFA are big on legacy. Qatar's legacy was uniting the middle east and giving new stadiums to third world countries. Our legacy was giving new stadiums to AFL. That's hardly promoting football.

We can't blame Qatar for getting it right.

No great loss.

I'm sureit'd be good for business, but a pain in the ass for everyone else.

Who really wants drunken poms shouting rubbish on the streets anyway? Barmy army, English rugby fans, they all grate on my nerves after about 2 minutes, and soccer fans would be as bad, probably worse.

mellie wrote on Dec 3^rd, 2010 at 7:30am:

Now to conclude Gillards enthusiasm re- her soccer world-cup bid I will leave you with the clip which embarrassed a nation. Honestly, my mouth dried up when I watched this, as much as I cant stand her, I felt embarrassed for her, on my own behalf. It's a shocker...*cringe* http://www.abc.net.au/news/video/2010/12/02/3082171.htm Can anyone tell me how long this short film cost to make? ::)

It was part of Rudd's committment to his wasteful spending projects.
And in total cost over $45 million.


Look forward to Gillard creating a Minister for Wasteful Spending!

mellie wrote on Dec 3^rd, 2010 at 7:30am:

Now to conclude Gillards enthusiasm re- her soccer world-cup bid I will leave you with the clip which embarrassed a nation. Honestly, my mouth dried up when I watched this, as much as I cant stand her, I felt embarrassed for her, on my own behalf. It's a shocker...*cringe* Can anyone tell me how long this short film cost to make? ::)

It was 6 minutes of a 25 minute presentation, made not for us, but for the voting committee (whose minds would have been made up well in advance).

And the contribution made by the Federal Government had support from all sides of politics!

Jaykaye_09 wrote on Dec 3^rd, 2010 at 1:24pm:

And the contribution made by the Federal Government had support from all sides of politics!

Got anything to back that up ?

Yeah.  I do.

Indeed. There are plenty of articles where Abbot has voiced his support for the bid.

And like I said, it was the Howard Government who commissioned the Crawford Report which inevitably led to our governing body having the confidence to bid for the cup.

Both the major parties have thrown their support behind football (soccer) in Australia, including during the build up to last night.

http://au.fourfourtwo.com/news/189885,parliament-united-for-final-bid-push.aspx

"AUSTRALIA Prime Minister Julia Gillard and opposition leader Tony Abbott do agree on something - that our nation has done a tremendous job in pushing its case to hold the World Cup and now they just want the right result to go with the effort.

Member of Federal Parliament donned bid scarves this week and both the Prime Minister and Mr Abbott were full of praise for the Frank Lowy-led team.

Like the rest of the country, they just want to hear FIFA bosses utter "Australia" in the early hours of December 3.

Speaking to MPs this week, Ms Gillard told the house: " In Zurich our nation is privileged to be represented by our first citizen, Her Excellency the Governor-General, along with the Minister for Sport, Senator Arbib, and an impressive delegation led by the remarkable Australian Frank Lowy.

"Frank’s passion has ensured a strong, compelling and unified bid. No nation could hope for a better case to be submitted on its behalf than that which Frank and his team have put for- ward. No-one could have prosecuted  the  case  with more enthusiasm or zeal. It is a great bid and it de- serves a great result. Years of planning, years of striving all come down to the vote.

"We hope that the name ‘Australia’ emerges just as the word ‘Sydney’ emerged in Monte Carlo 17 years ago. Like then, our nation is united in anticipation and bonded together by hope. I wish our bid team all the best, and I am confident every Australian does so.

Mr Abbott also voiced his support for the Australian team's efforts so far. "I support the  sentiments of the Prime Minister and point out to the House that  Australia is the undisputed champion of the  world at running sporting events.  

"We ran the world’s  best Olympics, we ran the world’s best Commonwealth Games, we ran the world’s best Rugby World Cup, and  we will run the world’s best soccer World Cup if we  get  the chance. Like the Prime Minister, I place on record my thanks to Frank Lowy, who has been the chairman of the bid, and I wish our delegation led by the Governor-General every success.""

Jaykaye_09 wrote on Dec 3^rd, 2010 at 5:40pm:

Indeed. There are plenty of articles where Abbot has voiced his support for the bid. And like I said, it was the Howard Government who commissioned the Crawford Report which inevitably led to our governing body having the confidence to bid for the cup. Both the major parties have thrown their support behind football (soccer) in Australia, including during the build up to last night. http://au.fourfourtwo.com/news/189885,parliament-united-for-final-bid-push.aspx "AUSTRALIA Prime Minister Julia Gillard and opposition leader Tony Abbott do agree on something - that our nation has done a tremendous job in pushing its case to hold the World Cup and now they just want the right result to go with the effort. Member of Federal Parliament donned bid scarves this week and both the Prime Minister and Mr Abbott were full of praise for the Frank Lowy-led team. Like the rest of the country, they just want to hear FIFA bosses utter "Australia" in the early hours of December 3. Speaking to MPs this week, Ms Gillard told the house: " In Zurich our nation is privileged to be represented by our first citizen, Her Excellency the Governor-General, along with the Minister for Sport, Senator Arbib, and an impressive delegation led by the remarkable Australian Frank Lowy. "Frank’s passion has ensured a strong, compelling and unified bid. No nation could hope for a better case to be submitted on its behalf than that which Frank and his team have put for- ward. No-one could have prosecuted  the  case  with more enthusiasm or zeal. It is a great bid and it de- serves a great result. Years of planning, years of striving all come down to the vote. "We hope that the name ‘Australia’ emerges just as the word ‘Sydney’ emerged in Monte Carlo 17 years ago. Like then, our nation is united in anticipation and bonded together by hope. I wish our bid team all the best, and I am confident every Australian does so. Mr Abbott also voiced his support for the Australian team's efforts so far. "I support the  sentiments of the Prime Minister and point out to the House that  Australia is the undisputed champion of the  world at running sporting events.   "We ran the world’s  best Olympics, we ran the world’s best Commonwealth Games, we ran the world’s best Rugby World Cup, and  we will run the world’s best soccer World Cup if we  get  the chance. Like the Prime Minister, I place on record my thanks to Frank Lowy, who has been the chairman of the bid, and I wish our delegation led by the Governor-General every success.""

Nice try, but the ownership of this wasted $45 million belongs to Rudd and also Gillard.
Because it wouldn't have mattered what the Libs felt, the ALP were always going to throw the money away.


And if by some small miracle, Australia had have won the bid would anyone have applauded the Libs for the ALP spending?

I'm sure we would've done a great job of hosting it, but I couldn't care less.
From what I saw of the last world cup, it was almost as much of a pain to watch as it was to listen to.
For such a big event, it seemed unprofessional and lacked highlights.

I think the rules need a major overhaul to stop the refs having so much impact on a nation's chances.

Our presentation was about on par with where the "beautiful game" is at right now. Maybe if the kangaroo was on a bike, we may have stood a better chance by raising the cringe-factor that extra notch.

I'm not disappointed that we didn't get it, the waste of $45m is the big disappointment.i

Miss Anne Dryst wrote on Dec 3^rd, 2010 at 6:04pm:

Nice try, but the ownership of this wasted $45 million belongs to Rudd and also Gillard. Because it wouldn't have mattered what the Libs felt, the ALP were always going to throw the money away. And if by some small miracle, Australia had have won the bid would anyone have applauded the Libs for the ALP spending?

I couldn't give two runs about Labor or Liberal. You're the one going for cheap points scoring here, not anybody else - not even the parties themselves.

They were all behind it.

Sorry, better luck next time.

Jaykaye_09 wrote on Dec 3^rd, 2010 at 6:53pm:

Miss Anne Dryst wrote on Dec 3rd, 2010 at 6:04pm: Nice try, but the ownership of this wasted $45 million belongs to Rudd and also Gillard. Because it wouldn't have mattered what the Libs felt, the ALP were always going to throw the money away. And if by some small miracle, Australia had have won the bid would anyone have applauded the Libs for the ALP spending? I couldn't give two runs about Labor or Liberal. You're the one going for cheap points scoring here, not anybody else - not even the parties themselves. They were all behind it. Sorry, better luck next time.

The ownership of the wasted $45 million goes to the ALP.
Nobody else.

Amadd wrote on Dec 3^rd, 2010 at 6:12pm:

I'm sure we would've done a great job of hosting it, but I couldn't care less. From what I saw of the last world cup, it was almost as much of a pain to watch as it was to listen to. For such a big event, it seemed unprofessional and lacked highlights. I think the rules need a major overhaul to stop the refs having so much impact on a nation's chances. Our presentation was about on par with where the "beautiful game" is at right now. Maybe if the kangaroo was on a bike, we may have stood a better chance by raising the cringe-factor that extra notch. I'm not disappointed that we didn't get it, the waste of $45m is the big disappointment.

You believe it should have been even more cringier?

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You believe it should have been even more cringier?

Yeah, well the surfing kangaroo was a hard one top.
Surely if we have such talented kangaroos, we'd be well worthy of hosting a lousy soccer competition?

Too bad, we could've saved $44.99m by hiring 'coconuts the kangaroo' instead.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6rttaLMkwQci

Miss Anne Dryst wrote on Dec 3^rd, 2010 at 6:57pm:

Jaykaye_09 wrote on Dec 3rd, 2010 at 6:53pm: Miss Anne Dryst wrote on Dec 3rd, 2010 at 6:04pm: Nice try, but the ownership of this wasted $45 million belongs to Rudd and also Gillard. Because it wouldn't have mattered what the Libs felt, the ALP were always going to throw the money away. And if by some small miracle, Australia had have won the bid would anyone have applauded the Libs for the ALP spending? I couldn't give two runs about Labor or Liberal. You're the one going for cheap points scoring here, not anybody else - not even the parties themselves. They were all behind it. Sorry, better luck next time. The ownership of the wasted $45 million goes to the ALP. Nobody else.

Concede defeat. Just heard on SBS news, both sides of politics were in full support of the bid.

Tony Abbott said he regrets that we didn't get the games.

Now say sorry, I was wrong, go on.

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Nice try, but the ownership of this wasted $45 million belongs to Rudd and also Gillard.

No, mellie, political ownership = The ALP, and the Libs. etc etc etc, and the Australian people.  You are a bugger wit.

8-)

Nice try, but the ALP are in government and in control of the purse strings.
It was the ALP who wasted the $45 million.

They spent the money with the support of the Libs, etc etc etc.

You are a bugger wit.

:D

Miss Anne Dryst wrote on Dec 3^rd, 2010 at 6:57pm:

Jaykaye_09 wrote on Dec 3rd, 2010 at 6:53pm: Miss Anne Dryst wrote on Dec 3rd, 2010 at 6:04pm: Nice try, but the ownership of this wasted $45 million belongs to Rudd and also Gillard. Because it wouldn't have mattered what the Libs felt, the ALP were always going to throw the money away. And if by some small miracle, Australia had have won the bid would anyone have applauded the Libs for the ALP spending? I couldn't give two runs about Labor or Liberal. You're the one going for cheap points scoring here, not anybody else - not even the parties themselves. They were all behind it. Sorry, better luck next time. The ownership of the wasted $45 million goes to the ALP. Nobody else.

Of course.

But Princess, you're the only one who seems to have a problem with it. Not even the Liberals agree with you here, and given the chance, it seems likely they would do the same.

Jaykaye_09 wrote on Dec 3^rd, 2010 at 7:26pm:

Miss Anne Dryst wrote on Dec 3rd, 2010 at 6:57pm: Jaykaye_09 wrote on Dec 3rd, 2010 at 6:53pm: Miss Anne Dryst wrote on Dec 3rd, 2010 at 6:04pm: Nice try, but the ownership of this wasted $45 million belongs to Rudd and also Gillard. Because it wouldn't have mattered what the Libs felt, the ALP were always going to throw the money away. And if by some small miracle, Australia had have won the bid would anyone have applauded the Libs for the ALP spending? I couldn't give two runs about Labor or Liberal. You're the one going for cheap points scoring here, not anybody else - not even the parties themselves. They were all behind it. Sorry, better luck next time. The ownership of the wasted $45 million goes to the ALP. Nobody else. Of course. But Princess, you're the only one who seems to have a problem with it. Not even the Liberals agree with you here, and given the chance, it seems likely they would do the same.

If that were the case then you wouldn't be having Julia trying to defend the wasted $45 million now would you.
Fact is, it was the ALP who wasted $45 million on a futile bid.

Miss Anne Dryst wrote on Dec 3^rd, 2010 at 7:28pm:

Jaykaye_09 wrote on Dec 3rd, 2010 at 7:26pm: Miss Anne Dryst wrote on Dec 3rd, 2010 at 6:57pm: Jaykaye_09 wrote on Dec 3rd, 2010 at 6:53pm: Miss Anne Dryst wrote on Dec 3rd, 2010 at 6:04pm: Nice try, but the ownership of this wasted $45 million belongs to Rudd and also Gillard. Because it wouldn't have mattered what the Libs felt, the ALP were always going to throw the money away. And if by some small miracle, Australia had have won the bid would anyone have applauded the Libs for the ALP spending? I couldn't give two runs about Labor or Liberal. You're the one going for cheap points scoring here, not anybody else - not even the parties themselves. They were all behind it. Sorry, better luck next time. The ownership of the wasted $45 million goes to the ALP. Nobody else. Of course. But Princess, you're the only one who seems to have a problem with it. Not even the Liberals agree with you here, and given the chance, it seems likely they would do the same. If that were the case then you wouldn't be having Julia trying to defend the wasted $45 million now would you. Fact is, it was the ALP who wasted $45 million on a futile bid.

Tony Abbott came out and said he defends the bid and he's sorry we didn't win. Tony Abbott the opposition leader Tony Abbott, he said that.

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Dec 3^rd, 2010 at 7:32pm:

Miss Anne Dryst wrote on Dec 3rd, 2010 at 7:28pm: Jaykaye_09 wrote on Dec 3rd, 2010 at 7:26pm: Miss Anne Dryst wrote on Dec 3rd, 2010 at 6:57pm: Jaykaye_09 wrote on Dec 3rd, 2010 at 6:53pm: Miss Anne Dryst wrote on Dec 3rd, 2010 at 6:04pm: Nice try, but the ownership of this wasted $45 million belongs to Rudd and also Gillard. Because it wouldn't have mattered what the Libs felt, the ALP were always going to throw the money away. And if by some small miracle, Australia had have won the bid would anyone have applauded the Libs for the ALP spending? I couldn't give two runs about Labor or Liberal. You're the one going for cheap points scoring here, not anybody else - not even the parties themselves. They were all behind it. Sorry, better luck next time. The ownership of the wasted $45 million goes to the ALP. Nobody else. Of course. But Princess, you're the only one who seems to have a problem with it. Not even the Liberals agree with you here, and given the chance, it seems likely they would do the same. If that were the case then you wouldn't be having Julia trying to defend the wasted $45 million now would you. Fact is, it was the ALP who wasted $45 million on a futile bid. Tony Abbott came out and said he defends the bid and he's sorry we didn't win. Tony Abbott the opposition leader Tony Abbott, he said that.

The ALP wasted the $45 million on a futile bid.

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Fact is, it was the ALP who wasted $45 million on a futile bid.

You are a bugger wit.

This Thread must surely be sent to the Dementia Forum soon!

Dryst<<The ALP wasted the $45 million on a futile bid. >>
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Do you know what the next move could be, so that the $45m might not be wasted?