Dec 02, 2010
Former Labor leader Mark Latham, regarded by some commentators as having nearly cost Julia Gillard the last election, now appears set on costing her the next.

In a column on the Financial Review, Mr Latham says some time in this parliamentary term, Labor factional bosses will need to deal with the reality that Julia Gillard is a dud leader who can't win.

He said the trick would be for Labor to change leaders without triggering a change of government.

As it now stands, her leadership is protected by the agreement with the independents who could legitimately say a change of leader would mean their agreement to back Labor in parliament no longer applied.

Mr Latham said Labor's NSW right was restive with heavyweight Graham Richardson arguing that under Ms Gillard, policy paralysis was developing.

He said Mr Richardson was already exploiting the proven destabilisation technique of criticising her staff while NSW right leader Mark Arbib, who played a key role in dumping Kevin Rudd, was not a happy camper.

"The Arbib/Richardson tactic will be to grind down Gillard, seeping poison into the press, a slow burning strategy of attrition," he said.

Mr Latham said the NSW right candidate was Immigration Minister Chris Bowen who should be prime minister by the end of 2012, provided he could build a relationship with the independent MPs.

Mr Latham was opposition leader from December 2003 to January 2005. His intervention in the election campaign was regarded as a distraction which cost Labor valuable momentum.

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I would think blind freddy could see that.. rudd will have the last laugh thats for sure.

Labor has as big a problem with it's left and right factions, as does Liberals.

Both Liberal and Labor wings are well due to imploded.

As for replacing Gillard, wishful thinking.

It is good form to post a link to other peoples comments Cods......you would not like people to think this you wrote this rubbish would you???

Lathams opinion is pure poison and has no basis in reality.....Latham has proven he is an ignorant pig to most people.....I am suprised you hold his opinion so highly Cods???

;)

greens_lose - yes, the alp has a problem.
it's basis for existing is false, so it makes mistakes everywhere.

And after all your good work putting hicks in his place, cods, for which you deservedly garnered much praise for your style, you post an "Extremist Rant".

;)

Well Latham should certainly know who the duds are.
Takes one to know one.

philperth2010 wrote on Dec 2^nd, 2010 at 7:34am:

It is good form to post a link to other peoples comments Cods......you would not like people to think this you wrote this rubbish would you??? Lathams opinion is pure poison and has no basis in reality.....Latham has proven he is an ignorant pig to most people.....I am suprised you hold his opinion so highly Cods??? ;)

ho hum phil you are the only one that complains.. you know full well I have no idea how to do all this c&p.I can bring something forward but thats all. sorry if you dont like Lathams comments.hes a silly old bugger I agree

as for Latham and holding his opinion highly!! remember I dont PAY him..

and this was on the news channel on here and just about everyone prints up something on Howard or Abbott I think you will find another thread on the same topic.. Lathams comments..

be fair phil.. I do my best I can switch this on and off and thats about tops..I cant even highlight...and you know what they say about teaching old puppies new tricks??????.

btw Michael Costa is also giving the Labs a canning.. all saying shes gotta go.

its funny though they only say it after they have left the game.. when they are sitting next to them.. they have all this lurrrv

Please delete wrote on Dec 2^nd, 2010 at 10:21am:

And after all your good work putting hicks in his place, cods, for which you deservedly garnered much praise for your style, you post an "Extremist Rant". ;)

a rant!!! I am shocked..I bet you voted for Latham as well as phil..

dont you think he has a point though... I mean she isnt living up to expectations is she?????.. well lets put it this way I hope you all had more expectation of her than you are getting!

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Dec 2^nd, 2010 at 11:22am:

Well Latham should certainly know who the duds are. Takes one to know one.

I have to buy that one...ha.ha.

her nbn is getting the thumbs down by all the experts



Quote:

THE competition regulator has punched a hole in the business case for the $36bn NBN by urging the government to reject a proposal to extend its monopoly. It is understood the Australian Competition and Consumer Commission has told the government to discard the NBN Co's contentious plan to build only 14 points of interconnection - where retail service providers will hook into the fibre network to deliver broadband services to consumers - in five capital cities and require 200 points to be implemented. The rejection could slash the NBN Co's commercial returns from the services it plans to eventually sell and would curb its market dominance.......

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/watchdog-urges-julia-gillard-to-reject-nbns-monopoly-plan/story-fn59niix-1225964807868

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dmc of Brisbane Posted at 10:52 AM Today What a nonsense. High speed Wireless internet is being installed throughout Hong Kong with the idea being that no wall connection will be required for internet at around 100mbps.

LOL, Hong Kong, about the size of Penrith, LOL.
Was that you that wrote that retard comment sprint?
Wireless would be great, but what about the bush? we cant even get mobile reception at my place and its only 23 KMs from the largest city on the NSW north coast.
How do the Libs intend to give high speed broadband to the bush? wireless, LOL. ;D ;D ;D

well there is almost 8 million people in Hong Kong..rather more than in the whole of NSW... seems to me skippy that when people leave the cities they leave it for all sorts of reasons..they do in some case give up having sewage..phone connections..all sorts of things and they know that before they make their choice to live in the bush/ country, it is not the same as living in the city...and its not meant to be.

now you are all saying we/they are entitled to the NBN because for some unknown reason they are all in a hurry when it comes to the web. . these people live without hospitals.. even schools in some parts. ambulances taxi service.. no pizza delivery. mail once a week. yet this is the new B.all and End all of the world to them..

makes me wonder how they survive all this time without it!!

ps as for mobil reception sometimes its the same in Canberra..lol,you kind of take it in your stride.

Sprintcyclist wrote on Dec 3^rd, 2010 at 10:55am:

her nbn is getting the thumbs down by all the experts

But Julia knows more (in her mind)!

codswal wrote on Dec 3^rd, 2010 at 11:58am:

well there is almost 8 million people in Hong Kong..rather more than in the whole of NSW... seems to me skippy that when people leave the cities they leave it for all sorts of reasons..they do in some case give up having sewage..phone connections..all sorts of things and they know that before they make their choice to live in the bush/ country, it is not the same as living in the city...and its not meant to be. now you are all saying we/they are entitled to the NBN because for some unknown reason they are all in a hurry when it comes to the web. . these people live without hospitals.. even schools in some parts. ambulances taxi service.. no pizza delivery. mail once a week. yet this is the new B.all and End all of the world to them.. makes me wonder how they survive all this time without it!!

23KMs from a major city is NOT the bush.
We deserve the same services as people in major cities, the city closest to me, 23 KMs away, houses Telstra's major call centre in Australia, many businesses are no longer tied to the CBD of Sydney, its called progress, something if left up to the likes of you, would not have moved past a horse and cart.

skippy. wrote on Dec 3^rd, 2010 at 12:06pm:

23KMs from a major city is NOT the bush.

It is for Gillard's electorate of Lalor.

Sprintcyclist wrote on Dec 3^rd, 2010 at 10:55am:

her nbn is getting the thumbs down by all the experts Quote: THE competition regulator has punched a hole in the business case for the $36bn NBN by urging the government to reject a proposal to extend its monopoly. It is understood the Australian Competition and Consumer Commission has told the government to discard the NBN Co's contentious plan to build only 14 points of interconnection - where retail service providers will hook into the fibre network to deliver broadband services to consumers - in five capital cities and require 200 points to be implemented. The rejection could slash the NBN Co's commercial returns from the services it plans to eventually sell and would curb its market dominance....... http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/watchdog-urges-julia-gillard-to-reject-nbns-monopoly-plan/story-fn59niix-1225964807868

ALL the experts ?
Are these the same "all the experts" that say climate change is not occurring ?

buzzanddidj wrote on Dec 3^rd, 2010 at 12:17pm:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Dec 3rd, 2010 at 10:55am: her nbn is getting the thumbs down by all the experts Quote: THE competition regulator has punched a hole in the business case for the $36bn NBN by urging the government to reject a proposal to extend its monopoly. It is understood the Australian Competition and Consumer Commission has told the government to discard the NBN Co's contentious plan to build only 14 points of interconnection - where retail service providers will hook into the fibre network to deliver broadband services to consumers - in five capital cities and require 200 points to be implemented. The rejection could slash the NBN Co's commercial returns from the services it plans to eventually sell and would curb its market dominance....... http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/watchdog-urges-julia-gillard-to-reject-nbns-monopoly-plan/story-fn59niix-1225964807868 ALL the experts ? Are these the same "all the experts" that say climate change is not occurring ?

Can you provide anything that proves that (man-made) climate change is occurring?

Quote:

Can you provide anything that proves that (man-made) climate change is occurring?

Well seeing as though you asked the question, can you provide any evidence it is not?

Miss Anne Dryst wrote on Dec 3^rd, 2010 at 12:21pm:

buzzanddidj wrote on Dec 3rd, 2010 at 12:17pm: Sprintcyclist wrote on Dec 3rd, 2010 at 10:55am: her nbn is getting the thumbs down by all the experts Quote: THE competition regulator has punched a hole in the business case for the $36bn NBN by urging the government to reject a proposal to extend its monopoly. It is understood the Australian Competition and Consumer Commission has told the government to discard the NBN Co's contentious plan to build only 14 points of interconnection - where retail service providers will hook into the fibre network to deliver broadband services to consumers - in five capital cities and require 200 points to be implemented. The rejection could slash the NBN Co's commercial returns from the services it plans to eventually sell and would curb its market dominance....... http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/watchdog-urges-julia-gillard-to-reject-nbns-monopoly-plan/story-fn59niix-1225964807868 ALL the experts ? Are these the same "all the experts" that say climate change is not occurring ? Can you provide anything that proves that (man-made) climate change is occurring?

You need to have faith.

aussiefree2ride wrote on Dec 3^rd, 2010 at 12:32pm:

Miss Anne Dryst wrote on Dec 3rd, 2010 at 12:21pm: buzzanddidj wrote on Dec 3rd, 2010 at 12:17pm: Sprintcyclist wrote on Dec 3rd, 2010 at 10:55am: her nbn is getting the thumbs down by all the experts Quote: THE competition regulator has punched a hole in the business case for the $36bn NBN by urging the government to reject a proposal to extend its monopoly. It is understood the Australian Competition and Consumer Commission has told the government to discard the NBN Co's contentious plan to build only 14 points of interconnection - where retail service providers will hook into the fibre network to deliver broadband services to consumers - in five capital cities and require 200 points to be implemented. The rejection could slash the NBN Co's commercial returns from the services it plans to eventually sell and would curb its market dominance....... http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/watchdog-urges-julia-gillard-to-reject-nbns-monopoly-plan/story-fn59niix-1225964807868 ALL the experts ? Are these the same "all the experts" that say climate change is not occurring ? Can you provide anything that proves that (man-made) climate change is occurring? You need to have faith.

LOL
Yes have to believe in the invisible man too.

The lefties greenies will say, can you prove the invisible man does not exist.

Miss Anne Dryst wrote on Dec 3^rd, 2010 at 12:33pm:

aussiefree2ride wrote on Dec 3rd, 2010 at 12:32pm: Miss Anne Dryst wrote on Dec 3rd, 2010 at 12:21pm: buzzanddidj wrote on Dec 3rd, 2010 at 12:17pm: Sprintcyclist wrote on Dec 3rd, 2010 at 10:55am: her nbn is getting the thumbs down by all the experts Quote: THE competition regulator has punched a hole in the business case for the $36bn NBN by urging the government to reject a proposal to extend its monopoly. It is understood the Australian Competition and Consumer Commission has told the government to discard the NBN Co's contentious plan to build only 14 points of interconnection - where retail service providers will hook into the fibre network to deliver broadband services to consumers - in five capital cities and require 200 points to be implemented. The rejection could slash the NBN Co's commercial returns from the services it plans to eventually sell and would curb its market dominance....... http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/watchdog-urges-julia-gillard-to-reject-nbns-monopoly-plan/story-fn59niix-1225964807868 ALL the experts ? Are these the same "all the experts" that say climate change is not occurring ? Can you provide anything that proves that (man-made) climate change is occurring? You need to have faith. LOL Yes have to believe in the invisible man too. The lefties greenies will say, can you prove the invisible man does not exist.

I knew you couldn't, I just wanted to highlight your status as a dufus.

Quote:

the NSW right candidate was Immigration Minister Chris Bowen who should be prime minister by the end of 2012, provided he could build a relationship with the independent MPs.

So in 2013 it will be Bowen against Pyne?

Dnarever wrote on Dec 3^rd, 2010 at 12:39pm:

Quote: the NSW right candidate was Immigration Minister Chris Bowen who should be prime minister by the end of 2012, provided he could build a relationship with the independent MPs. So in 2013 it will be Bowen against Pyne?

Oh LOL, imagine cwissy whine as Lib leader,LOL.

more judas false promises and inaction


Quote:

Pressure is mounting on the government to seek an International Court of Justice injunction against Japanese Antarctic whaling to halt the kill while Australia's case is decided. The action was launched last May, but it could be as late as 2015 before the court hands down its judgment, according to Don Rothwell, a professor of international law at the Australian National University. Japan's whalers are keeping up their Antarctic program. The factory ship Nisshin Maru left Innoshima yesterday, Greenpeace said. The whaling fleet is expected to take until the end of the month to reach its hunting grounds south-east of Tasmania. Advertisement: Story continues below The opposition environment spokesman, Greg Hunt, said the government should use that time to move for an injunction before the fleet reached the Antarctic. ''This case is being used as a fig leaf to cover the lack of effective action,'' Mr Hunt said. ''We now have a limited window to stop the whaling.'' Anti-whaling group Whales Alive said an injunction was needed to prevent ''irreparable damage'' from whaling. A spokesman for the Attorney-General's Department said the government had no intention of indicating the legal approach, tactics or strategy that it would adopt during the course of the case. The Australian Customs ship Oceanic Viking gathered evidence for the case in the summer of 2007-8 and mediated between Japan and Sea Shepherd activists who boarded a whale chaser. The Environment Minister, Tony Burke, said the government had made no decision on whether it would monitor Japanese whaling this summer. Whaling activity this season was likely to be mainly in the Ross Sea region for which New Zealand had search and rescue co-ordination responsibility.

http://www.smh.com.au/environment/whale-watch/calls-for-gillard-to-seek-whaling-injunction-20101202-18iat.html

Sprintcyclist wrote on Dec 3^rd, 2010 at 1:12pm:

more judas false promises and inaction Quote: Pressure is mounting on the government to seek an International Court of Justice injunction against Japanese Antarctic whaling to halt the kill while Australia's case is decided. The action was launched last May, but it could be as late as 2015 before the court hands down its judgment, according to Don Rothwell, a professor of international law at the Australian National University. Japan's whalers are keeping up their Antarctic program. The factory ship Nisshin Maru left Innoshima yesterday, Greenpeace said. The whaling fleet is expected to take until the end of the month to reach its hunting grounds south-east of Tasmania. Advertisement: Story continues below The opposition environment spokesman, Greg Hunt, said the government should use that time to move for an injunction before the fleet reached the Antarctic. ''This case is being used as a fig leaf to cover the lack of effective action,'' Mr Hunt said. ''We now have a limited window to stop the whaling.'' Anti-whaling group Whales Alive said an injunction was needed to prevent ''irreparable damage'' from whaling. A spokesman for the Attorney-General's Department said the government had no intention of indicating the legal approach, tactics or strategy that it would adopt during the course of the case. The Australian Customs ship Oceanic Viking gathered evidence for the case in the summer of 2007-8 and mediated between Japan and Sea Shepherd activists who boarded a whale chaser. The Environment Minister, Tony Burke, said the government had made no decision on whether it would monitor Japanese whaling this summer. Whaling activity this season was likely to be mainly in the Ross Sea region for which New Zealand had search and rescue co-ordination responsibility. http://www.smh.com.au/environment/whale-watch/calls-for-gillard-to-seek-whaling-injunction-20101202-18iat.html

Yep, its disgusting sprint.
Could you just remind us all what that great conservationist John Howard did about the Japanese whaling?

aussiefree2ride wrote on Dec 3^rd, 2010 at 12:32pm:

Miss Anne Dryst wrote on Dec 3rd, 2010 at 12:21pm: buzzanddidj wrote on Dec 3rd, 2010 at 12:17pm: Sprintcyclist wrote on Dec 3rd, 2010 at 10:55am: her nbn is getting the thumbs down by all the experts Quote: THE competition regulator has punched a hole in the business case for the $36bn NBN by urging the government to reject a proposal to extend its monopoly. It is understood the Australian Competition and Consumer Commission has told the government to discard the NBN Co's contentious plan to build only 14 points of interconnection - where retail service providers will hook into the fibre network to deliver broadband services to consumers - in five capital cities and require 200 points to be implemented. The rejection could slash the NBN Co's commercial returns from the services it plans to eventually sell and would curb its market dominance....... http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/watchdog-urges-julia-gillard-to-reject-nbns-monopoly-plan/story-fn59niix-1225964807868 ALL the experts ? Are these the same "all the experts" that say climate change is not occurring ? Can you provide anything that proves that (man-made) climate change is occurring? You need to have faith.

Absolutely faith, and it also would help to have a certain degree of gullability too.
And a distinct ability to be selective and ignore certain facts also comes in handy. ;D

skippy. wrote on Dec 3^rd, 2010 at 12:31pm:

Quote: Can you provide anything that proves that (man-made) climate change is occurring? Well seeing as though you asked the question, can you provide any evidence it is not?

Somehow I don't think it's up to them to prove anything.
It's the man made climate change soothsayers are the ones pushing this particular barrow.
And so far, they have come up well short of the mark.

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Dec 3^rd, 2010 at 1:28pm:

skippy. wrote on Dec 3rd, 2010 at 12:31pm: Quote: Can you provide anything that proves that (man-made) climate change is occurring? Well seeing as though you asked the question, can you provide any evidence it is not? Somehow I don't think it's up to them to prove anything. It's the man made climate change soothsayers are the ones pushing this particular barrow. And so far, they have come up well short of the mark.

LOl another confusionalist who cant even put forward a substantial case for his confusionalism, I'll bet he votes conservative too,LOL. :o :o

skippy -
Quote:

Yep, its disgusting sprint. Could you just remind us all what that great conservationist John Howard did about the Japanese whaling?

fancy a leftard divertying the topic !!!!!!!!
As you asked, Johnny said it was an unwinnable case and he would not pursue it legally.
that is what he did.

judas said she'ld stop them, and she's done zippo

Sprintcyclist wrote on Dec 3^rd, 2010 at 2:32pm:

skippy - Quote: Yep, its disgusting sprint. Could you just remind us all what that great conservationist John Howard did about the Japanese whaling? fancy a leftard divertying the topic !!!!!!!! As you asked, Johnny said it was an unwinnable case and he would not pursue it legally. that is what he did. judas said she'ld stop them, and she's done zippo

So Howard did ZIPPO, thanks for that sprinty. 8-)

Why are the current opposition calling for action then? when in government they said it was unwinnable and as you've said, did ZIPPO.

skippy. wrote on Dec 3^rd, 2010 at 2:35pm:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Dec 3rd, 2010 at 2:32pm: skippy - Quote: Yep, its disgusting sprint. Could you just remind us all what that great conservationist John Howard did about the Japanese whaling? fancy a leftard divertying the topic !!!!!!!! As you asked, Johnny said it was an unwinnable case and he would not pursue it legally. that is what he did. judas said she'ld stop them, and she's done zippo So Howard did ZIPPO, thanks for that sprinty. 8-) Why are the current opposition calling for action then? when in government they said it was unwinnable and as you've said, did ZIPPO.

Rudd gave a commitment as part of his election speech in 2007.

Howard was upfront with the electorate and advised that Australia could not win the case.
Rudd misled the electorate with c_rap promises knowing full well that Australia couldn't win.

Miss Anne Dryst wrote on Dec 3^rd, 2010 at 4:48pm:

skippy. wrote on Dec 3rd, 2010 at 2:35pm: Sprintcyclist wrote on Dec 3rd, 2010 at 2:32pm: skippy - Quote: Yep, its disgusting sprint. Could you just remind us all what that great conservationist John Howard did about the Japanese whaling? fancy a leftard divertying the topic !!!!!!!! As you asked, Johnny said it was an unwinnable case and he would not pursue it legally. that is what he did. judas said she'ld stop them, and she's done zippo So Howard did ZIPPO, thanks for that sprinty. 8-) Why are the current opposition calling for action then? when in government they said it was unwinnable and as you've said, did ZIPPO. Rudd gave a commitment as part of his election speech in 2007. Howard was upfront with the electorate and advised that Australia could not win the case. Rudd misled the elctorate with c_rap promises knowing full well that Australia couldn't win.

Thanks for your imput,mellie. :D

skippys just reinforced the belief all leftards have.
they'ld rather be lied to and pretend something than be told the facts.


anyhow, here is some more facts


Quote:

...............Costa was formerly treasurer in Morris Iemma's cabinet and a luminary within the NSW Labor Right. His gravitas was conspicuous in a week when the Prime Minister and Foreign Minister Kevin Rudd managed to find time in their schedules for one-on-one meetings with Bono. "The Gillard government's pyrrhic victory at the August federal election and the poor public performance since has created the perception that defeat at the next federal poll is almost certain," Costa said. "In Labor circles the sense of despair at the performance of the federal party is overwhelming and perplexing, largely because, in sharp contrast to the states, Labor's federal political retreat has occurred so unexpectedly and so rapidly.".....

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/opinion/home-truths-from-former-labor-heavyweights/story-e6frg6zo-1225965396494


she's worse than krudd

has created the perception

You left out this kind of important bit of the statement, sprinty.

That's OK, perception has never been one of your strong points. :o

Sprintcyclist wrote on Dec 4^th, 2010 at 12:31pm:

skippys just reinforced the belief all leftards have. they'ld rather be lied to and pretend something than be told the facts. anyhow, here is some more facts Quote: ...............Costa was formerly treasurer in Morris Iemma's cabinet and a luminary within the NSW Labor Right. His gravitas was conspicuous in a week when the Prime Minister and Foreign Minister Kevin Rudd managed to find time in their schedules for one-on-one meetings with Bono. "The Gillard government's pyrrhic victory at the August federal election and the poor public performance since has created the perception that defeat at the next federal poll is almost certain," Costa said. "In Labor circles the sense of despair at the performance of the federal party is overwhelming and perplexing, largely because, in sharp contrast to the states, Labor's federal political retreat has occurred so unexpectedly and so rapidly."..... http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/opinion/home-truths-from-former-labor-heavyweights/story-e6frg6zo-1225965396494 she's worse than krudd

Well it is skippy sprint so that's no surprise.


And yes you're right Gillard is worse that Rudd if that were possible.

AND ANOTHER OF THE DUD'S CLASSIC MONEY WASTER:

JULIA Gillard's cash-for-clunkers proposal would cost 15 times more than an emissions trading scheme to reduce carbon pollution.

And no research has been conducted on the fallout on used car dealers from the vehicle buyback policy.

Bureaucrats charged with administering the Cleaner Car Rebate scheme have confirmed that compliance to ensure vehicles were scrapped was a "major concern" overseas.

Under the plan, owners of cars manufactured before January 1, 1995, will be eligible for a $2000 rebate when they buy a new car with a Green Vehicle Guide greenhouse rating of six or above.

The scheme is capped at 200,000 vehicles over four years.

Climate Change Minister Greg Combet has repeatedly declined to detail the carbon abatement cost per tonne of the cleaner car scheme, which has already been delayed for six months.

But the Department of Innovation has now confirmed for the first time that the cost of abatement under the $430 million scheme is $429.70 per tonne over the decade

No wonder this is just another scheme that has gone quiet.

has she achieved anything FOR Australia ????????????

Sprintcyclist wrote on Dec 14^th, 2010 at 8:18am:

No wonder this is just another scheme that has gone quiet. has she achieved anything FOR Australia ????????????

Well, she got Oprah over for a lesbian love in.  That`s helped us out no end!

she stumbling form one cock-up to the next.

the failures are continuing, this weeks cock-ups are the bank reform and the mining tax.