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Message started by sprintcyclist on Dec 13th, 2010 at 1:30am

Title: krudd gets his own back on joolya
Post by sprintcyclist on Dec 13th, 2010 at 1:30am




Quote:
FOREIGN Minister Kevin Rudd yesterday mounted a strong defence of Julian Assange's legal rights.
The WikiLeaks founder is preparing to face court in London early Wednesday morning (AEDT).

Mr Rudd said he was prepared to intervene to have a laptop computer provided for Mr Assange in London's Wandsworth prison to help the Australian prepare his defence and obtain bail at his appearance at Westminster Magistrates Court.

Following suggestions by Julia Gillard and Attorney-General Robert McClelland that Mr Assange may have his Australian passport cancelled, Mr Rudd said any such decision was his as Foreign Minister. "Under law, I'm responsible for the Passports Act, therefore the decisions concerning the withdrawal or otherwise of passports rests exclusively with the foreign minister based on the advice of the relevant agencies," Mr Rudd told The Australian in Cairo...........


http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/kevin-rudd-defends-julian-assanges-rights-and-promises-him-a-laptop/story-fn59niix-1225969826148

i'll bet he is enjoying this.
it's best served cold, mate.

Title: Re: krudd gets his own back on joolya
Post by aussiefree2ride on Dec 13th, 2010 at 4:14am
More to come, and cold?  It`ll be frozen.

Title: Re: krudd gets his own back on joolya
Post by buzzanddidj on Dec 13th, 2010 at 4:22am

Quote:
Mr Rudd laid the bulk of the blame for the leaks on the US.

"Let's not mince words that their diplomatic communication system was inadequately protected," he said.

He also gave backing to comments by Ms Gillard , for which the Prime Minister has been criticised as many thought she was referring to Mr Assange, that there had been illegality in the WikiLeaks affair. "Well, as I've looked carefully at the statements made by the Prime Minister on these questions it's quite clear that the Prime Minister was expressing concerns about the illegality of actions which in my view refer to stuff in the United States," he said.




Same story, nice try



Title: Re: krudd gets his own back on joolya
Post by aussiefree2ride on Dec 13th, 2010 at 4:31am

buzzanddidj wrote on Dec 13th, 2010 at 4:22am:

Quote:
Mr Rudd laid the bulk of the blame for the leaks on the US.

"Let's not mince words that their diplomatic communication system was inadequately protected," he said.

He also gave backing to comments by Ms Gillard , for which the Prime Minister has been criticised as many thought she was referring to Mr Assange, that there had been illegality in the WikiLeaks affair. "Well, as I've looked carefully at the statements made by the Prime Minister on these questions it's quite clear that the Prime Minister was expressing concerns about the illegality of actions which in my view refer to stuff in the United States," he said.




Same story, nice try


"Well, as I've looked carefully at the statements made by the Prime Minister on these questions it's quite clear that the Prime Minister was expressing concerns about the illegality of actions which in my view refer to stuff in the United States," he said

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D That really shows Judas up for a goose. Patronising much?

Title: Re: krudd gets his own back on joolya
Post by Infarction on Dec 13th, 2010 at 5:12am

buzzanddidj wrote on Dec 13th, 2010 at 4:22am:

Quote:
Mr Rudd laid the bulk of the blame for the leaks on the US.

"Let's not mince words that their diplomatic communication system was inadequately protected," he said.

He also gave backing to comments by Ms Gillard , for which the Prime Minister has been criticised as many thought she was referring to Mr Assange, that there had been illegality in the WikiLeaks affair. "Well, as I've looked carefully at the statements made by the Prime Minister on these questions it's quite clear that the Prime Minister was expressing concerns about the illegality of actions which in my view refer to stuff in the United States," he said.




Same story, nice try


;D ;D

Some posters around this place are hillarious. It's like they so desperately want things to be a certain way that they will over look pretty much everything in an attempt to convince themselves it is indeed that way.

The opening post in this thread is a clear example of one such poster.

Title: Re: krudd gets his own back on joolya
Post by Miss Anne Dryst on Dec 13th, 2010 at 5:45am

Sprintcyclist wrote on Dec 13th, 2010 at 1:30am:

Quote:
FOREIGN Minister Kevin Rudd yesterday mounted a strong defence of Julian Assange's legal rights.
The WikiLeaks founder is preparing to face court in London early Wednesday morning (AEDT).

Mr Rudd said he was prepared to intervene to have a laptop computer provided for Mr Assange in London's Wandsworth prison to help the Australian prepare his defence and obtain bail at his appearance at Westminster Magistrates Court.

Following suggestions by Julia Gillard and Attorney-General Robert McClelland that Mr Assange may have his Australian passport cancelled, Mr Rudd said any such decision was his as Foreign Minister. "Under law, I'm responsible for the Passports Act, therefore the decisions concerning the withdrawal or otherwise of passports rests exclusively with the foreign minister based on the advice of the relevant agencies," Mr Rudd told The Australian in Cairo...........


http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/kevin-rudd-defends-julian-assanges-rights-and-promises-him-a-laptop/story-fn59niix-1225969826148

i'll bet he is enjoying this.
it's best served cold, mate.




Translation: Oh I am just so important.
Well Kevin Rudd needs to be reminded as to just whom puts him in that ministerial position in the first place.
If Julia Gillard wishes to issue, cancel passports then it wouldn't be that difficult for her at all. And then it would leave Kevin Rudd completely out of the picture.

Title: Re: krudd gets his own back on joolya
Post by longweekend58 on Dec 13th, 2010 at 7:08am

Infarction wrote on Dec 13th, 2010 at 5:12am:

buzzanddidj wrote on Dec 13th, 2010 at 4:22am:

Quote:
Mr Rudd laid the bulk of the blame for the leaks on the US.

"Let's not mince words that their diplomatic communication system was inadequately protected," he said.

He also gave backing to comments by Ms Gillard , for which the Prime Minister has been criticised as many thought she was referring to Mr Assange, that there had been illegality in the WikiLeaks affair. "Well, as I've looked carefully at the statements made by the Prime Minister on these questions it's quite clear that the Prime Minister was expressing concerns about the illegality of actions which in my view refer to stuff in the United States," he said.




Same story, nice try


;D ;D

Some posters around this place are hillarious. It's like they so desperately want things to be a certain way that they will over look pretty much everything in an attempt to convince themselves it is indeed that way.

The opening post in this thread is a clear example of one such poster.


Are you referring to Buzz? He is still trying to think there is a labor govt in VIC.

Title: Re: krudd gets his own back on joolya
Post by Miss Anne Dryst on Dec 13th, 2010 at 7:11am

longweekend58 wrote on Dec 13th, 2010 at 7:08am:

Infarction wrote on Dec 13th, 2010 at 5:12am:

buzzanddidj wrote on Dec 13th, 2010 at 4:22am:

Quote:
Mr Rudd laid the bulk of the blame for the leaks on the US.

"Let's not mince words that their diplomatic communication system was inadequately protected," he said.

He also gave backing to comments by Ms Gillard , for which the Prime Minister has been criticised as many thought she was referring to Mr Assange, that there had been illegality in the WikiLeaks affair. "Well, as I've looked carefully at the statements made by the Prime Minister on these questions it's quite clear that the Prime Minister was expressing concerns about the illegality of actions which in my view refer to stuff in the United States," he said.




Same story, nice try


;D ;D

Some posters around this place are hillarious. It's like they so desperately want things to be a certain way that they will over look pretty much everything in an attempt to convince themselves it is indeed that way.

The opening post in this thread is a clear example of one such poster.


Are you referring to Buzz? He is still trying to think there is a labor govt in VIC.



And the champagne socialist is struggling to remember whether the premier is John Cain or Joan Kirner.

Title: Re: krudd gets his own back on joolya
Post by Infarction on Dec 13th, 2010 at 8:20am

longweekend58 wrote on Dec 13th, 2010 at 7:08am:

Infarction wrote on Dec 13th, 2010 at 5:12am:

buzzanddidj wrote on Dec 13th, 2010 at 4:22am:

Quote:
Mr Rudd laid the bulk of the blame for the leaks on the US.

"Let's not mince words that their diplomatic communication system was inadequately protected," he said.

He also gave backing to comments by Ms Gillard , for which the Prime Minister has been criticised as many thought she was referring to Mr Assange, that there had been illegality in the WikiLeaks affair. "Well, as I've looked carefully at the statements made by the Prime Minister on these questions it's quite clear that the Prime Minister was expressing concerns about the illegality of actions which in my view refer to stuff in the United States," he said.




Same story, nice try


;D ;D

Some posters around this place are hillarious. It's like they so desperately want things to be a certain way that they will over look pretty much everything in an attempt to convince themselves it is indeed that way.

The opening post in this thread is a clear example of one such poster.


Are you referring to Buzz? He is still trying to think there is a labor govt in VIC.


Did he start this thread?

Title: Re: krudd gets his own back on joolya
Post by riverina.jack on Dec 13th, 2010 at 8:22am

longweekend58 wrote on Dec 13th, 2010 at 7:08am:

Infarction wrote on Dec 13th, 2010 at 5:12am:

buzzanddidj wrote on Dec 13th, 2010 at 4:22am:

Quote:
Mr Rudd laid the bulk of the blame for the leaks on the US.

"Let's not mince words that their diplomatic communication system was inadequately protected," he said.

He also gave backing to comments by Ms Gillard , for which the Prime Minister has been criticised as many thought she was referring to Mr Assange, that there had been illegality in the WikiLeaks affair. "Well, as I've looked carefully at the statements made by the Prime Minister on these questions it's quite clear that the Prime Minister was expressing concerns about the illegality of actions which in my view refer to stuff in the United States," he said.




Same story, nice try


;D ;D

Some posters around this place are hillarious. It's like they so desperately want things to be a certain way that they will over look pretty much everything in an attempt to convince themselves it is indeed that way.

The opening post in this thread is a clear example of one such poster.


Are you referring to Buzz? He is still trying to think there is a labor govt in VIC.



We were thinking more along the lines that you are hillarious. You still think that the Federal Labor Goverment is illegitimate.

If it is illegitmate why doesn't the opposition take to to the High Court?

Title: Re: krudd gets his own back on joolya
Post by Miss Anne Dryst on Dec 13th, 2010 at 8:27am

John S wrote on Dec 13th, 2010 at 8:22am:
We were thinking




We?


Are you conjoined twins or just from Tasmania?

Title: Re: krudd gets his own back on joolya
Post by Miss Anne Dryst on Dec 13th, 2010 at 8:28am

John S wrote on Dec 13th, 2010 at 8:22am:
We were thinking




It's nice to have objectives in life.

Title: Re: krudd gets his own back on joolya
Post by riverina.jack on Dec 13th, 2010 at 8:41am

Miss Anne Dryst wrote on Dec 13th, 2010 at 8:27am:

John S wrote on Dec 13th, 2010 at 8:22am:
We were thinking




We?


Are you conjoined twins or just from Tasmania?



So do you think that the goverment is illegitimate also?

Title: Re: krudd gets his own back on joolya
Post by Miss Anne Dryst on Dec 13th, 2010 at 8:49am

John S wrote on Dec 13th, 2010 at 8:41am:

Miss Anne Dryst wrote on Dec 13th, 2010 at 8:27am:

John S wrote on Dec 13th, 2010 at 8:22am:
We were thinking




We?


Are you conjoined twins or just from Tasmania?



So do you think that the goverment is illegitimate also?



Is that a yes you are a conjoined twin, or yes you are from tasmania?

Title: Re: krudd gets his own back on joolya
Post by vegitamite on Dec 13th, 2010 at 8:54am
Rudd is doing a pretty good job on this what I have seen so  far.
As for Julia…she is tough on these things…but she has a country to run & protect.

Title: Re: krudd gets his own back on joolya
Post by Miss Anne Dryst on Dec 13th, 2010 at 8:55am

wrote on Dec 13th, 2010 at 8:54am:
Rudd is doing a pretty good job on this what I have seen so  far.
As for Julia…she is tough on these things…but she has a country to run & protect.




Say hello to Dorothy Dixer for me next time, thanks.

Title: Re: krudd gets his own back on joolya
Post by nichy on Dec 13th, 2010 at 9:00am

wrote on Dec 13th, 2010 at 8:54am:
Rudd is doing a pretty good job on this what I have seen so  far.
As for Julia…she is tough on these things…but she has a country to run & protect.



Well then she should get on with it instead of slavering round Oprah Winfrey in such a cringeworthy manner.

Title: Re: krudd gets his own back on joolya
Post by aussiefree2ride on Dec 13th, 2010 at 9:00am

John S wrote on Dec 13th, 2010 at 8:22am:

longweekend58 wrote on Dec 13th, 2010 at 7:08am:

Infarction wrote on Dec 13th, 2010 at 5:12am:

buzzanddidj wrote on Dec 13th, 2010 at 4:22am:

Quote:
Mr Rudd laid the bulk of the blame for the leaks on the US.

"Let's not mince words that their diplomatic communication system was inadequately protected," he said.

He also gave backing to comments by Ms Gillard , for which the Prime Minister has been criticised as many thought she was referring to Mr Assange, that there had been illegality in the WikiLeaks affair. "Well, as I've looked carefully at the statements made by the Prime Minister on these questions it's quite clear that the Prime Minister was expressing concerns about the illegality of actions which in my view refer to stuff in the United States," he said.




Same story, nice try


;D ;D

Some posters around this place are hillarious. It's like they so desperately want things to be a certain way that they will over look pretty much everything in an attempt to convince themselves it is indeed that way.

The opening post in this thread is a clear example of one such poster.


Are you referring to Buzz? He is still trying to think there is a labor govt in VIC.



We were thinking more along the lines that you are hillarious. You still think that the Federal Labor Goverment is illegitimate.

If it is illegitmate why doesn't the opposition take to to the High Court?



WTF ?
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: krudd gets his own back on joolya
Post by aussiefree2ride on Dec 13th, 2010 at 9:01am

Miss Anne Dryst wrote on Dec 13th, 2010 at 8:55am:

wrote on Dec 13th, 2010 at 8:54am:
Rudd is doing a pretty good job on this what I have seen so  far.
As for Julia…she is tough on these things…but she has a country to run & protect.





Say hello to Dorothy Dixer for me next time, thanks.



;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: krudd gets his own back on joolya
Post by aussiefree2ride on Dec 13th, 2010 at 9:02am

nichy wrote on Dec 13th, 2010 at 9:00am:

wrote on Dec 13th, 2010 at 8:54am:
Rudd is doing a pretty good job on this what I have seen so  far.
As for Julia…she is tough on these things…but she has a country to run & protect.



Well then she should get on with it instead of slavering round Oprah Winfrey in such a cringeworthy manner.



EWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW!

Title: Re: krudd gets his own back on joolya
Post by Verge on Dec 13th, 2010 at 9:51am
I want to know why Gillard has not come out and demanded the UK not hand over one of our own to a foreign country.

Jesus, we wouldnt hand back a person to the US until we had guarentees and he was convicted of manslaughter.

Why isnt she on the phone demanded the protection of one of our own from a country in the Commonwealth.  We all know once Sweden has their hands on him next stop is the US.

Her slience on this is disgusting.

If she has time to meet Oprah, she has time to pick up the phone.

Title: Re: krudd gets his own back on joolya
Post by Miss Anne Dryst on Dec 13th, 2010 at 9:56am

Verge wrote on Dec 13th, 2010 at 9:51am:
I want to know why Gillard has not come out and demanded the UK not hand over one of our own to a foreign country.

Jesus, we wouldnt hand back a person to the US until we had guarentees and he was convicted of manslaughter.

Why isnt she on the phone demanded the protection of one of our own from a country in the Commonwealth.  We all know once Sweden has their hands on him next stop is the US.

Her slience on this is disgusting.

If she has time to meet Oprah, she has time to pick up the phone.



Julia Gillard can't do that as she has already labelled him as a criminal.
As such it would mean a(nother) flip flop.

The meeting with Oprah was all just a 'look at me' photo opportunity. Julia Gillard learnt all the tricks of that and then some from Kevin Rudd.

Title: Re: krudd gets his own back on joolya
Post by bwood1946 on Dec 13th, 2010 at 11:38am

wrote on Dec 13th, 2010 at 8:54am:
Rudd is doing a pretty good job on this what I have seen so  far.
As for Julia…she is tough on these things…but she has a country to run & protect.



but she has a country to run & protect.

WELL FFS   START RUNNING  IT

PROTECT FROM WHAT    " THE LABOR PARTY"


>:(

Title: Re: krudd gets his own back on joolya
Post by Infarction on Dec 13th, 2010 at 12:23pm

Miss Anne Dryst wrote on Dec 13th, 2010 at 9:56am:

Verge wrote on Dec 13th, 2010 at 9:51am:
I want to know why Gillard has not come out and demanded the UK not hand over one of our own to a foreign country.

Jesus, we wouldnt hand back a person to the US until we had guarentees and he was convicted of manslaughter.

Why isnt she on the phone demanded the protection of one of our own from a country in the Commonwealth.  We all know once Sweden has their hands on him next stop is the US.

Her slience on this is disgusting.

If she has time to meet Oprah, she has time to pick up the phone.



Julia Gillard can't do that as she has already labelled him as a criminal.
As such it would mean a(nother) flip flop.

The meeting with Oprah was all just a 'look at me' photo opportunity. Julia Gillard learnt all the tricks of that and then some from Kevin Rudd.


A politician taking the time to do a look at me type photo opportunity??

I'm shocked.

Shocked i tells ya.  ::)

Title: Re: krudd gets his own back on joolya
Post by buzzanddidj on Dec 13th, 2010 at 1:10pm
See below

Title: Re: krudd gets his own back on joolya
Post by buzzanddidj on Dec 13th, 2010 at 1:16pm

Infarction wrote on Dec 13th, 2010 at 8:20am:

longweekend58 wrote on Dec 13th, 2010 at 7:08am:

Infarction wrote on Dec 13th, 2010 at 5:12am:

buzzanddidj wrote on Dec 13th, 2010 at 4:22am:

Quote:
Mr Rudd laid the bulk of the blame for the leaks on the US.

"Let's not mince words that their diplomatic communication system was inadequately protected," he said.

He also gave backing to comments by Ms Gillard , for which the Prime Minister has been criticised as many thought she was referring to Mr Assange, that there had been illegality in the WikiLeaks affair. "Well, as I've looked carefully at the statements made by the Prime Minister on these questions it's quite clear that the Prime Minister was expressing concerns about the illegality of actions which in my view refer to stuff in the United States," he said.




Same story, nice try


;D ;D

Some posters around this place are hillarious. It's like they so desperately want things to be a certain way that they will over look pretty much everything in an attempt to convince themselves it is indeed that way.

The opening post in this thread is a clear example of one such poster.


Are you referring to Buzz? He is still trying to think there is a labor govt in VIC.


Did he start this thread?







No

The classic buzzanddidj OP generally has a bit more substance in the mix - and he tries to avoid the Murdoch Press as a link to some kind of politically unalighned journalistic credibility





Title: Re: krudd gets his own back on joolya
Post by vegitamite on Dec 13th, 2010 at 1:24pm
Recommended read here;

Assange in prison…whilst war-mongers roam freely
December 8, 2010 by nasking

“It’s a jungle out there“…so goes the theme song from the popular series Monk.

And so it is.
And at this very time the war-mongering beasts that have chomped & chewed their way to the top…those who have sucked our rivers & lands dry of diverse life, nutrients, and their natural way…have created massive factory farms & feedlots straight out of a horror film…whilst raining bombs down on the children of the future in order to keep building more bombs, profiting from this obscenity by way of both the armaments and rebuilding of the very same infrastructure they levelled…those who have enslaved workers across the planet by way of exorbitant house prices and grotesque rental charges…and crashed, rigged economies that see pension ages upped, company pensions reduced drastically by way of bankruptcies & with the assistance of some large unions…and poisoned & fattened, like pigs before the feed, generations…those who hate to be regulated…and luv their tax contribution to be low…
these corporate aristocrats & their political & judicial puppets are now about to feed Wikileaks’ founder Julian Assange to their lions…in order to protect their interests.

http://cafewhispers.wordpress.com/

Title: Re: krudd gets his own back on joolya
Post by nichy on Dec 13th, 2010 at 1:58pm
If the bulk of the blame for the leaks is on the US -  Who leaked certain Australian information to the US ?   A little bald, ALP  fella with a name starting with A ?

Title: Re: krudd gets his own back on joolya
Post by sprintcyclist on Dec 13th, 2010 at 2:43pm

buzz - so what genius DID start this thread ?
you have alluded to this stunning specimen a few times but been unwilling to name him.

Is it ............ he-who-cannot-be-named ??

Title: Re: krudd gets his own back on joolya
Post by nichy on Dec 13th, 2010 at 2:47pm
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D :o :o ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

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