http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/julia-gillard-after-top-job-a-year-before-coup-wikileaks/story-fn59niix-1225972416553

DON Farrell told the US embassy a year before the coup that Julia Gillard was "campaigning for the leadership", WikiLeaks cables reveal.

Senator Farrell, one of the "faceless men" behind the political overthrow of Kevin Rudd and a South Australian right-wing factional powerbroker, believes Ms Gillard was gunning for the prime ministership well before Mr Rudd's personal support in the polls collapsed.

The revelation challenges the ALP's version of events surrounding the leadership challenge - that a reluctant Ms Gillard was drafted by her caucus colleagues at the 11th hour to stand as a candidate against Mr Rudd, whose leadership had become terminal as public support was lost.

A WikiLeaks cable names Senator Farrell as telling US embassy staff in June last year Ms Gillard was trying to knock off Mr Rudd.

"Don Farrell, the right-wing union powerbroker from South Australia, told us Gillard is 'campaigning for the leadership' and at this point is the frontrunner to succeed Rudd, conceding that the Right did not yet have an alternative," the cable states.

If correct, this means Ms Gillard was eyeing off Mr Rudd's job before Tony Abbott replaced Malcolm Turnbull as Coalition leader, and before the international climate change talks at Copenhagen had failed and Labor's carbon pollution reduction scheme was shelved.

At that time, Newspoll had the government ahead by a 10-point two-party-preferred lead over the opposition, and Mr Rudd had a 32-point lead over Coalition leader Malcolm Turnbull as preferred prime minister.

Senator Farrell, when contacted by The Australian last night, admitted he had conversations with the US embassy, but said: "I can't recall any conversation along those lines."

A spokeswoman for Ms Gillard said the Prime Minister would not comment on the confidential cables.

The same cable names then agriculture minister Tony Burke, one of the "early NSW Right backers of the Rudd-Gillard team" as having confided to the US embassy that Ms Gillard was the clear frontrunner to succeed Mr Rudd, and that in the end, "the ALP caucus will follow the opinion polls if she is the one the public wants".

The cable says several Rudd "confidants have told us that Rudd appreciates Gillard and sees her as a possible PM, but that he wants to avoid anointing her to head off a possible leadership challenge when his poll numbers inevitably sag".

They said Mark Arbib, the right-wing powerbroker behind the coup, "once told us a similar story, though he stressed Rudd appreciates Gillard's strengths. However, another Rudd adviser told us that while the PM respects Gillard, his reluctance to share power will lead to a falling out, while Gillard will not want to acquiesce in creating potential rivals."

The leaked US embassy briefings show Washington took a keen interest in the rise of Ms Gillard, and her migration from Labor's Socialist Left faction to the party's centre. The cables note that after the ALP won government in 2007, Ms Gillard sought to alter her left-wing image, particularly in asserting her credentials as a supporter of Israel and the US alliance.

Ambitious Politicians


OMG

what next !

it just shows how impotent Costello was. There he was 11 years and couldn't even get the numbers! Julia done it one

FMD, how many sox does mellie have.

Lol, just look at them dodge and sleaze & slime!

;D ;D ;D ;D

Judas is a lying backstabber, but tardies have no objection to that.   :-[

____ wrote on Dec 17^th, 2010 at 7:57am:

Ambitious Politicians OMG what next !

A. Deflection, FAIL.

wrote on Dec 17^th, 2010 at 8:19am:

it just shows how impotent Costello was. There he was 11 years and couldn't even get the numbers! Julia done it one

A. It would never occur to the "average" tard that someone might have principals.

skippy. wrote on Dec 17^th, 2010 at 8:31am:

FMD, how many sox does mellie have.

A. Deflection, FAIL!

aussiefree2ride wrote on Dec 17^th, 2010 at 8:37am:

____ wrote on Dec 17th, 2010 at 7:57am: Ambitious Politicians OMG what next ! A. Deflection, FAIL.

Gee, who would a Greens supporter back ... moderate left wing Labor, or hard right Labor?

a rhetorical question

Quote:

Gillard planned backstab 12 months b4

Shock, horror: a politician who plans their leadership takeover as much as a year ahead!?

Even the notoriously-impulsive Tony Abbott signalled his leadership tilt well in advance - I'm sure that most people remember his infamous "people skills" speech in late 2007, not to mention the book that he had begun writing by mid-2008!?

yes, i'ld easily believe she was planning it many months before she did it.

aussiefree2ride wrote on Dec 17^th, 2010 at 8:38am:

wrote on Dec 17th, 2010 at 8:19am: it just shows how impotent Costello was. There he was 11 years and couldn't even get the numbers! Julia done it one A. It would never occur to the "average" tard that someone might have principals.

ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhahhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa




please.
Dont make me laugh. I'm not in the mood.

Equitist wrote on Dec 17^th, 2010 at 8:47am:

[quote] Shock, horror: a politician who plans their leadership takeover as much as a year ahead!?

Whilst all the time declaring 'loyalty'.

So we have a Government where a woman has backstabbed her boss and who have been put back in by two independents (against the will of their electorate) after -

Labor became the first Government to lose a majority after just one term in half a century.

I have always said -

Seriously, how bad a Government must you be to lose your whole majority after less than 3 years.

In anyone's book - pretty bad!

Unfortunately due to the sexism shown in politics - Rudd was the one pushed forward to do battle with Howard. He always appeared to be only a stop gap with Gillard waiting in the wings.

It was a given that she would end up as PM, so it's no surprise that this coup was planned a year earlier.

You wouldn't expect less. Rudd was only popular for a short time until his true nature shone through, but I don't think anyone had any illusions about Gillard. She has always been the same - likeable or not.

Sprintcyclist wrote on Dec 17^th, 2010 at 8:48am:

yes, i'ld easily believe she was planning it many months before she did it.

FFS, wouldn't one hope that an aspiring PM had a well-considered life plan!?

Wouldn't one expect an aspiring PM to begin networking and honing their negotiation skills from early in their political career!?

Surely this is preferable to a surprise spur-of-the-moment leadership tilt!?

Sprintcyclist wrote on Dec 17^th, 2010 at 8:48am:

yes, i'ld easily believe she was planning it many months before she did it.

How long had Abbott been planning his leadership challenge ... pre Brendan Nelson?

If he hadn't been, then is he a opportunity cuckoo ... that puts himself before the party?

Oh c'mon Android, true 'loyalty' and altruism rarely prevail in politics...

In practice, politicians are egotists who think they have a monopoly on the ultimate ideology - and conveniently-engage in fluid self-serving allegiances within their loosely-defined political group as a means to achieve their own ends...

Why hold any Australian female pollie to different moral standards to your beloved former British female PM!?

mantra -
Quote:

Unfortunately due to the sexism shown in politics - Rudd was the one pushed forward to do battle with Howard. He always appeared to be only a stop gap with Gillard waiting in the wings. It was a given that she would end up as PM, so it's no surprise that this coup was planned a year earlier. You wouldn't expect less. Rudd was only popular for a short time until his true nature shone through, but I don't think anyone had any illusions about Gillard. She has always been the same - likeable or not.

i agree.

greens_lose - keep on topic, old chap

wrote on Dec 17^th, 2010 at 8:49am:

aussiefree2ride wrote on Dec 17th, 2010 at 8:38am: wrote on Dec 17th, 2010 at 8:19am: it just shows how impotent Costello was. There he was 11 years and couldn't even get the numbers! Julia done it one A. It would never occur to the "average" tard that someone might have principals. ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhahhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa please. Dont make me laugh. I'm not in the mood.

I`m trying to make you think, this is cruel, I know, but there is no other way.    :(

____ wrote on Dec 17^th, 2010 at 8:53am:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Dec 17th, 2010 at 8:48am: yes, i'ld easily believe she was planning it many months before she did it. How long had Abbott been planning his leadership challenge ... pre Brendan Nelson? If he hadn't been, then is he a opportunity cuckoo ... that puts himself before the party?

Woody/skippy, time to change hands.

____ wrote on Dec 17^th, 2010 at 8:45am:

aussiefree2ride wrote on Dec 17th, 2010 at 8:37am: ____ wrote on Dec 17th, 2010 at 7:57am: Ambitious Politicians OMG what next ! A. Deflection, FAIL. Gee, who would a Greens supporter back ... moderate left wing Labor, or hard right Labor? a rhetorical question

WTF has that to do with the topic?

Deflection FAIL!

aussiefree2ride wrote on Dec 17^th, 2010 at 9:13am:

____ wrote on Dec 17th, 2010 at 8:45am: aussiefree2ride wrote on Dec 17th, 2010 at 8:37am: ____ wrote on Dec 17th, 2010 at 7:57am: Ambitious Politicians OMG what next ! A. Deflection, FAIL. Gee, who would a Greens supporter back ... moderate left wing Labor, or hard right Labor? a rhetorical question WTF has that to do with the topic? Deflection FAIL!

All politicians have personal agendas ... denying this reinforces the climate of lying withing old politics.


Abbott has a personal  agenda
Gillard has a personal agenda.

and good on both of them. Lets hope these personal agenda's are for the best intention of Australia rather than just personal power.


And aussiefree2ride, we are the same poster, so why are we arguing outside our own head.

No my sock is aussiefree2ride, remember he started a thread and then I started the poll. ;D ;D ;D

Fuq he's a dumbfuq.

No wonder Julia Gillard wanted to label Julain Assange as a criminal.
Trying to discredit Mr Assange before we had the opportunity to find out for ourselves.
Julia Gillard knew all along that the truth of her conspiracy would come out.

Now we are seeing the real Julia, but just how much is being revealed.

aussiefree2ride wrote on Dec 17^th, 2010 at 9:11am:

____ wrote on Dec 17th, 2010 at 8:53am: Sprintcyclist wrote on Dec 17th, 2010 at 8:48am: yes, i'ld easily believe she was planning it many months before she did it. How long had Abbott been planning his leadership challenge ... pre Brendan Nelson? If he hadn't been, then is he a opportunity cuckoo ... that puts himself before the party? Woody/skippy, time to change hands.

LOL
Must be a sticky subject for him.

Miss Anne Dryst wrote on Dec 17^th, 2010 at 9:36am:

aussiefree2ride wrote on Dec 17th, 2010 at 9:11am: ____ wrote on Dec 17th, 2010 at 8:53am: Sprintcyclist wrote on Dec 17th, 2010 at 8:48am: yes, i'ld easily believe she was planning it many months before she did it. How long had Abbott been planning his leadership challenge ... pre Brendan Nelson? If he hadn't been, then is he a opportunity cuckoo ... that puts himself before the party? Woody/skippy, time to change hands. LOL Must be a sticky subject for him.

not as sticky as it is for you Mel/miss/tickfen/maqqa to name but a few. I probably need to add aussiefree2ride to your list, he's the only one stupid enough to be accusing me of having multi nicks, besides you and all of yours that is mel, so he must be you too.

So (supposedly)intelligent people who contribute to political message boards are shocked & left feeling violated because a politician has leadership aspirations & plans that stretch over many months if not years to achieve this goal.
Just so you all don't commit mass suicide here's a heads up, even now, yes as we speak/type there are individuals within Liberal,Labor,National,Greens that are planing their next move to increase their chances of gaining the leadership of their party.

Some things may not be obvious, it might be who to invite for Xmas drinks, a chance mobile photo of another pollie laughing with the wrong person that could be used out of context(very machiavellian).

Oh & for the record Tony is not God he will be challenged as leader as soon as the majority of the party thinks their better off with Hockey or Turnbull & BOTH of these men are already putting plans in place for this.

Nice to see you back Macca

well it goes to show how many can get it all wrong!!!!!.. first rudd was the new messiah..then it was gillard.. and senator whatsisname..Farrell.. is now denying he said it..lol.. so would I fancy backing two losers..

sharpen their knives early!! of course they did..sculldugery all that tosh...

and good old veg tries to twist it all around to include the Libs...ha.ha.. its about time you admitted veg.. you support a bunch of crooks..

and what a bunch..make the Underbelly world look like choir boys

What this does prove is Gillard has issues with the truth.

How many times did she say there was no one else behind it, that she did it because the Government had lost its way and it was only a recent decision.

If she wanted the job, fine, but dont bullshit us in the mean time with your reasons and your actions.

We all knew Costello wanted the job and didnt go for it.

No one saw what Gillard did, and she was deceptive from the start right through and then past the event.

That speaks far louder than anything else.

At least Abbott let it be known he wanted the job, then challanged for it, as did Turnbull before him.

Verge wrote on Dec 17^th, 2010 at 11:17am:

What this does prove is Gillard has issues with the truth. How many times did she say there was no one else behind it, that she did it because the Government had lost its way and it was only a recent decision. If she wanted the job, fine, but dont bullshit us in the mean time with your reasons and your actions. We all knew Costello wanted the job and didnt go for it. No one saw what Gillard did, and she was deceptive from the start right through and then past the event. That speaks far louder than anything else. At least Abbott let it be known he wanted the job, then challanged for it, as did Turnbull before him.

I see where ruddy is well and truly getting his own back as well... hahahahaha..hes out there now making the gillard govt look even more stupid and not to be trusted... oh well heres one person who isnt surprised..I bet hes been everywhere man..and he will make sure he does before this 3 years are up..he will make Kevin747 look very tardy thats for sure...lol.

as for our image abroad that the left were so concerned about when the Libs were in... you aint seen nothing yet..LOL

[quote author=aussiefree2ride link=1292536048/0#4 date=1292539013]Lol, just look at them dodge and sleaze & slime!

;D ;D ;D ;D

Judas is a lying backstabber, but tardies have no objection to that.   :-[/quote]



Have we seen the real Julia Gillard, or can she get worse?

Shows that Julia Gillard sees herself far more important than the team.

I wouldn't be surprised to see Rudd get another crack at the leadership, he's played his cards very well in the Assange affair.
Gillard, is a goner.

Amadd wrote on Dec 18^th, 2010 at 5:26am:

I wouldn't be surprised to see Rudd get another crack at the leadership, he's played his cards very well in the Assange affair. Gillard, is a goner.

Yes I suspected that he would try again.
Julia Gillard should never have appointed him as a minister, much less as the Foreign Minister.
Julia Gillard should have 'killed' him off.
But now it is too late.
Even with all of Kevin Rudd's gaffes and his two-faced embarrassing lies  that have been exposed on Wikileaks, and just blatant embarrassment to Australia, Kevin Rudd seems to be plotting himself. Kevin Rudd is still a failure but he is also very manipulative of the media.

Miss Anne Dryst wrote on Dec 18^th, 2010 at 5:50am:

Amadd wrote on Dec 18th, 2010 at 5:26am: I wouldn't be surprised to see Rudd get another crack at the leadership, he's played his cards very well in the Assange affair. Gillard, is a goner. Yes I suspected that he would try again. Julia Gillard should never have appointed him as a minister, much less as the Foreign Minister. Julia Gillard should have 'killed' him off. But now it is too late. Even with all of Kevin Rudd's gaffes and his two-faced embarrassing lies  that have been exposed on Wikileaks, and just blatant embarrassment to Australia, Kevin Rudd seems to be plotting himself. Kevin Rudd is still a failure but he is also very manipulative of the media.

No Way will kevin ever go for it again... no way. your dreaming missy..

as for joolia well whats done is done just watching her body language tells me she is hogtied.she has nowhaere to turn and she can probably hear the knives being sharpened all over again in the bunker..shes gone I dont think she ever was to be honest.. she had a good image when Deputy she looked strong, well look what they got????. or more the point what we got.

she cant move or say a thing without everything being used against her... so what do we get we get nothing...

now shes got to live with saying what Assange did was illegal..

big deal I say...but in her case could be the begining of the end.

in a way I am begining to feel sorry for her.

she will end up like Kenneally not knowing which side is on her side.

crap.

cant be bothered.

~Gee

wrote on Dec 18^th, 2010 at 9:04am:

Gee , do ya think Mal Brough might you know stab Abbott one day; No never, The former Queensland MP said he would run for preselection for the federal seat of Fisher, aspired to be a minister in the coalition and harboured ambitions to be the prime minister. news.theage.com.au/.../...-lnp-20101210-18svu.html

Deflection FAIL.
The point is, Judas has been caught out doing the slimey limbo, while you are just fantasising.  Your comments are on a par with fantasies like "If Winston Churchill had been a German, he would have bombed England too", which is totally useless, as is your own dodgy daydream.