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http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl Member Run Boards >> Spirituality >> Is Immaculate Conception Rape? http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1297736642 Message started by Greens_Win on Feb 15^th, 2011 at 12:24pm

Title: Is Immaculate Conception Rape?
Post by Greens_Win on Feb 15^th, 2011 at 12:24pm

So God screwed Mary, without her permission ... is this Rape?

Title: Re: Is Immaculate Conception Rape?
Post by WESLEY.PIPES on Feb 15^th, 2011 at 12:25pm

I nominate this for the 'dumbest thread ever' award.

Title: Re: Is Immaculate Conception Rape?
Post by Greens_Win on Feb 15^th, 2011 at 12:30pm

God didn't ask, so it is rape ... why are we praising this behaviour to young children. Out of disrespect for women?

Title: Re: Is Immaculate Conception Rape?
Post by Dnarever on Feb 15^th, 2011 at 12:40pm

____ wrote on Feb 15^th, 2011 at 12:24pm:

So God screwed Mary, without her permission ... is this Rape?

I think it was consensual Immaculate Conception.

No more interesting is where you got the statment wrong as it means without sex so there was no screwing involved and since rape is in reference to this act the answer would be no.

Don't think there is a law about causing conception though unless she was a minor. Lucky that not a lot of Women work underground.

though to follow through to the next step or question the prospect of forced IVF, while also probably not rape it would certainly be assult or some other illegal action depending on how the rape laws are worded. i.e. penetration by a needle could in some areas be considered to be rape but I would think mostly not possibly more indecent assult or something.

Title: Re: Is Immaculate Conception Rape?
Post by gizmo_2655 on Feb 15^th, 2011 at 12:55pm

Immaculate Conception wasn't included in the bible until about 1300....

The actual term used in the bible at the time it was written translates as 'First Child'....

Title: Re: Is Immaculate Conception Rape?
Post by Freediver 2 on Feb 15^th, 2011 at 1:13pm

... wrote on Feb 15^th, 2011 at 12:25pm:

I nominate this for the 'dumbest thread ever' award.

If there was an annual 'dumbest thread' award, like the Oscars, Greens_Win would be the equivalent of a director who only makes films about the Holocaust.

Title: Re: Is Immaculate Conception Rape?
Post by gizmo_2655 on Feb 15^th, 2011 at 2:07pm

____ wrote on Feb 15^th, 2011 at 12:24pm:

So God screwed Mary, without her permission ... is this Rape?

Greens, you're assuming that 'god' had actual, physical sex with Mary....Not to mention you're also assuming it was non-consensual

why would he have needed to??

He was, after all, the 'designer' of humans, so he'd know how to kick start the pregnancy, without physical contact...
Not to mention that the physical act would violate the whole 'Virgin Birth' doctrine....

As Professor Julious Sumner Miller used to say, in the ABC show "Why Is It So".......'Never assume, when you assume, you make an ASS out of U and ME'...

Title: Re: Is Immaculate Conception Rape?
Post by Lisa on Feb 15^th, 2011 at 4:06pm

The topic title and the opening post do not make any sense given that Immaculate Conception is a Catholic doctrine which states that MARY was born without original sin.

For some reason, the concept of Immaculate Conception is widely misunderstood. It has nothing to do with Mary's conception of Jesus but with the conception of Mary herself in her mother's womb.

As such .. I'm going to lock this topic for now.

I've already started a new topic titled Immaculate Conception which will enable all of us to discuss what the term actually means before we start topics on the subject.

Lisa