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Title: islam and jews
Post by tallowood on Mar 9^th, 2011 at 8:04pm

It was a joke that couple of Jewish Shepard boys play on the sick arab man mohamed that started the islam.

Title: Re: islam and jews
Post by Soren on Mar 9^th, 2011 at 8:36pm

Abu

Quote:

I'm not changing anything, they [jews] quite clearly have had no sovereign state there for about 2500 years, and for the past 1850~ years, they had no state at all, token or otherwise. Your own article overtly states this, that the Byzantines, Muslims, Crusaders then Muslims again were the ones who've had states there during the past 1850~ years.

There's Muslims still in Spain today, does that mean we still have a state there? Is Spain still ours? Should we boot all Spaniards out of their homes and into refugee camps on the doorsteps of France and Italy?

The point is – there was no Muslim state in Palestine when Israel was created. The last Muslim state in place there dissolved at the end of the First World War. SO the Jews didn’t take away a state from anyone as there was no state there.

There fore your Spanish analogy (and your usual Australian analogy) are irrelevant.

Title: Re: islam and jews
Post by tallowood on Mar 9^th, 2011 at 8:37pm

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There's Muslims still in Spain today, does that mean we still have a state there? Is Spain still ours? Should we boot all Spaniards out of their homes and into refugee camps on the doorsteps of France and Italy?
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You have tried before and look at you sorry asses now.

No. You should submit to the will of your god and accept Israel as your god's will.

Title: Re: islam and jews
Post by Lisa on Mar 10^th, 2011 at 9:31am

The point is – there was no Muslim state in Palestine when Israel was created. The last Muslim state in place there dissolved at the end of the First World War. SO the Jews didn’t take away a state from anyone as there was no state there.

- Soren

PRECISELY! In fact the Palestinians were merely squatters.

The Jews have essentially returned to their original HOMELAND!

And that is a wonderful thing!

Title: Re: islam and jews
Post by Annie Anthrax on Mar 10^th, 2011 at 9:53am

Quote:

PRECISELY! In fact the Palestinians were merely squatters.

The Jews have essentially returned to their original HOMELAND!

And that is a wonderful thing!

You call the slaughter of Palestinians and their mass forced eviction from their homeland a "wonderful thing?"

Title: Re: islam and jews
Post by Lisa on Mar 10^th, 2011 at 11:11am

Annie Anthrax wrote on Mar 10^th, 2011 at 9:53am:

Quote:

PRECISELY! In fact the Palestinians were merely squatters.

The Jews have essentially returned to their original HOMELAND!

And that is a wonderful thing!

You call the slaughter of Palestinians and their mass forced eviction from their homeland a "wonderful thing?"

1stly .. Palestinians were/are squatters. Nothing more.

2ndly .. re-read my post.

Title: Re: islam and jews
Post by chicken_lipsforme on Mar 10^th, 2011 at 3:04pm

Annie Anthrax wrote on Mar 10^th, 2011 at 9:53am:

Quote:

PRECISELY! In fact the Palestinians were merely squatters.

The Jews have essentially returned to their original HOMELAND!

And that is a wonderful thing!

You call the slaughter of Palestinians and their mass forced eviction from their homeland a "wonderful thing?"

I think you will find many left at the behest of their Arab leaders prior to the Arab attack in 1948, being told they could return once the Israeli's were defeated.
But of course that never happened.
And don't get too caught up in any Israeli 'slaughter' of Palestinians.
The Israeli's are churchboys after comparing with what the Jordanians did during the Black Sepember massacres in 1970 in Jordan.
And this is a country who's King's wife is Palestinian, and 60% of the countries population is Palestinian.

Title: Re: islam and jews
Post by muso on Mar 10^th, 2011 at 3:13pm

Quote:

There's Muslims still in Spain today, does that mean we still have a state there? Is Spain still ours? Should we boot all Spaniards out of their homes and into refugee camps on the doorsteps of France and Italy?

You have tried before and look at you sorry asses now.

No. You should submit to the will of your god and accept Israel as your god's will.

I must have been sick that day at school when they discussed the invasion of Spain by Australia, but judging from your post, you must have missed a lot more than I did.

I mean - ok the Brits and Germans invaded Spain. You just have to visit the Costa Del Sol and the Balearic Islands to find that out, but Australia?

The highlighted part makes absolutely no sense to me. Israel is a place where they have lots of computer hackers and cheap wine. I don't think they are particularly masters of anything.

I don't understand "god" either. It's a meaningless concept to me.

Title: Re: islam and jews
Post by Lisa on Mar 10^th, 2011 at 3:52pm

LOL!

Title: Re: islam and jews
Post by Templar on Mar 10^th, 2011 at 4:07pm

Arguing who deserves the land is just a waste of time, fact jews now live in a place called israel in the mid-east, fact they aren't going any where. Give the palestinians the west bank and gaza then have nothing to do with each other for all I care.

So much trouble over one tiny piece of lets face it unremarkable land.

Title: Re: islam and jews
Post by Soren on Mar 10^th, 2011 at 8:33pm

Abu

Quote:

Look bobby, the fact is Jews ceased ruling independently over the land 2500+ years ago, and as of 1850 years ago they were reduced to nothing but a tiny minority with no rulership at all. when the Muslims arrived there were no more Jews there than there was Jews in Arabia or Iraq or Egypt etc. This is simple historical fact you just can't seem to grasp, and your own links corroborate it. I'm not going to bother repeating it over and over, because you didn't comprehend it the first time. You are the one being stubborn here, stubbornly refusing to accept well established historical facts.

You're a sore loser, plain and simple.

Well, think of the jews returning to Israel as their way of emulating Mohammed who returned to Mecca after being kicked out. He returned with the sword and had his way. Same with the jews. They did a Mohammed on the Palestinians. Are you going to knock 'em for following your prophet's exmple? Not very ~~Christian~~. er, Mohammedan of you.

Title: Re: islam and jews
Post by Soren on Mar 10^th, 2011 at 8:36pm

Annie Anthrax wrote on Mar 10^th, 2011 at 9:53am:

Quote:

PRECISELY! In fact the Palestinians were merely squatters.

The Jews have essentially returned to their original HOMELAND!

And that is a wonderful thing!

You call the slaughter of Palestinians and their mass forced eviction from their homeland a "wonderful thing?"

No different to Mohammed's 'massacres' - or whatever is the Islamic word for the mass murders ordered by Mohammed and his henchmen.
What is the Islamically PC word for the murders committed in the cause of spreading Islam?

Title: Re: islam and jews
Post by Lisa on Mar 10^th, 2011 at 9:12pm

Soren wrote on Mar 10^th, 2011 at 8:33pm:

Abu

Quote:

Oh dear .. and you are so right too.

Title: Re: islam and jews
Post by chicken_lipsforme on Mar 11^th, 2011 at 10:31am

tallowood wrote on Mar 9^th, 2011 at 8:37pm:

Outstanding, post of the week. ;D

Title: Re: islam and jews
Post by Soren on Mar 11^th, 2011 at 7:29pm

Abu

Quote:

When the Muslims arrived in Palestine, they wrote about a Byzantine Christian land.

Exactly. When they arrived in Palestine it was not a Muslim land but part of the existing Eastern Roman Empire. And yet the Muslim marooders had absolutely no scruples about overruning and subjugating it. You fvckers think that it's your god-given right to take by force whatever you want and are sh!tting bricks when nyone else (and especially the jews) do the same to you. What a bunch of hypochritical, conceited pr!cks.
So I think shut up and bugger orf is in order for you lot.

Title: Re: islam and jews
Post by Soren on Mar 11^th, 2011 at 7:51pm

Abu

Quote:

Re: islam and jews
Reply #103 - Today at 7:28pm

No, you are wrong because you debate issues about which you obviously have not even a rudeimentary layman's understanding. You are wrong because you base your views upon what a few whacko propagandists have begun claiming in the past few decades.

And the whole time you've been claiming I am against the tide of history... you are a joke seriously. If I were you, I'd honestly be ashamed to show myself on this forum again. I don't know how people such as yourself just have so little integrity that you post this garbage, for page after page and then say "ahhh my source is weak, not my fault".

You have no argument, only invective dictated by Lestat, and the rest of the Hizb crow. Muslims got Palestine by force. You buggers tried to take it back by force. You proved to be too tribal, too incompetnt and fractious to succeed.

The victim-posturing about your supposed right to Palestione is a load of hypochritical sh!t. You took it by force to start with. You have no claim on compassion and absolutely no claim on fairness. You have been paid for Palestine in your own Mohammedan coin.

Finally the jews are following Mohammed' example and what do you do? Blame them. Typical. If you didn't have a grievance you wouldn't know what to do with yourselves.

Title: Re: islam and jews
Post by Lisa on Mar 11^th, 2011 at 10:37pm

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Mar 11^th, 2011 at 10:31am:

tallowood wrote on Mar 9^th, 2011 at 8:37pm:

Outstanding, post of the week. ;D

I reckon! Some people know how to hit the nail right on the head hey lol :)

Title: Re: islam and jews
Post by Yadda on Mar 12^th, 2011 at 9:37pm

muso wrote on Mar 10^th, 2011 at 3:13pm:

Quote:

You have tried before and look at you sorry asses now.

No. You should submit to the will of your god and accept Israel as your god's will.

The highlighted part makes absolutely no sense to me. Israel is a place where they have lots of computer hackers and cheap wine. I don't think they are particularly masters of anything.

I don't understand "god" either. It's a meaningless concept to me.

On numerous occasions since 1948, the moslem armies which surround Israel, have tried to 'drive the Jews into the sea'.

On every occasion that they tried, they failed, miserably.

There is a concept in ISLAMIC culture, that nothing can happen in this world, except by Allah's will.

And moslems do actively promote such a concept, such a paradigm, within their own communities.

Ergo;
It is therefore, clearly Allah's will, that Allah does not want moslems to 'drive the Jews into the sea'.

Otherwise, 'logically', Allah would have brought that circumstance about, already, probably in 1948.

THEREFORE, tallowood's advice to moslems;

You [moslems] should submit to the will of your god and accept Israel's [existence] as your god's will.

Do you understand now muso ??? ::)

Does tallowood's admonishment to moslems now make any sense to you ??? ;)

Dictionary;
admonish = = reprimand firmly. Ø earnestly urge or warn.

Title: Re: islam and jews
Post by Soren on Mar 13^th, 2011 at 11:29am

A PALESTINIAN has killed five Israelis in an attack on a West Bank settlement. Media reports say they were all members of the same family, including a baby and a toddler

http://www.theage.com.au/world/palestinian-kills-israeli-settler-family-20110312-1bs9g.html

I bet there was a lot of allahu akhbaring going on while he was murdering them.

Title: Re: islam and jews
Post by Lisa on Mar 13^th, 2011 at 4:47pm

New Age Islam is the only true alleged religion and we can't stand jews. We will one day dominate the world and we will smite with the leg bone of a donkey those who don't have a copy of our book the holy nar'uq.

- SALAD IN

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1299483524/140#140

Title: Re: islam and jews
Post by Lisa on Mar 13^th, 2011 at 4:48pm

I think some posts deserve a re-post. Just for added effect.

Title: Re: islam and jews
Post by Lisa on Mar 13^th, 2011 at 9:01pm

Soren wrote on Mar 13^th, 2011 at 11:29am:

Just finished reading that article .. a very tragic situation indeed :(

Title: Re: islam and jews
Post by Yadda on Mar 14^th, 2011 at 4:37pm

Soren wrote on Mar 13^th, 2011 at 11:29am:

I put the responsibility for such violent incidents upon successive Israeli governments.

For ignoring the many public acts of sedition towards the Jewish state, demonstrated by many 'Palestinian' people.

For ignoring the many public acts of treason towards the Jewish state, demonstrated by many 'Palestinian' people.

For ignoring the clear acts of criminal violence towards many Jewish people, within Israel, by many 'Palestinian' people.

When will these people, i.e. those 'Palestinians' who act violently, be brought to account for their criminal and violent behaviour directed against Jews and other non-moslems, within Israel ???

Where is Gideon ?

Title: Re: islam and jews
Post by Yadda on Mar 15^th, 2011 at 8:04am

Soren wrote on Mar 13^th, 2011 at 11:29am:

Images from within the Fogel family home, which the Fogel family wish the world to see;

ALERT BY MOD. DO NOT GO TO THIS LINK IF VERY NASTY, GRUESOME VIOLENCE OFFENDS.

https://picasaweb.google.com/picsyesha/Itamar#

Title: Re: islam and jews
Post by Yadda on Mar 15^th, 2011 at 8:44am

Yadda wrote on Mar 15^th, 2011 at 8:04am:

Images from within the Fogel family home, which the Fogel family wish the world to see;

https://picasaweb.google.com/picsyesha/Itamar#

COMMENT;

Apparently in the last day or so, many YouTube postings relating to this massacre of the Fogel family have been 'pulled' by YT, after 'complaints', by moslem groups.

As someone else commented;
"...what Israel does "against" Palestinians is tame enough to show the world as proof of how cruel we are, yet the atrocities committed by Palestinians are so gory they aren't appropriate for public viewing, so [that] people can preserve their denial."

Two media reporting standards.

One standard applying to Israelis, Jews.
[If the Jewish people dare to defend themselves, from the violence of moslem aggression and violence, the Israeli/Jewish people are condemned by the worlds mainstream media.]

Another 'standard' applies for the [non]reporting of moslem outrages/atrocities.
Because;
'EXPOSING MOSLEM HYPOCRISY, OR EXPOSING MOSLEM AGGRESSION AND VIOLENCE, IS VERBOTTEN.'
['Palestinians' massacre a Jewish family, including small children, and the mainstream media refuse to report it. And [now] mainstream internet media outlets like YT suppress and delete information about moslem outrages/atrocities, which offends moslem 'sensibilities'.]

more graphic images here,
exposing the hypocrisy of moslems, and the non-reporting of these hypocritical moslem provocations, by the worlds mainstream media...
Why don't we see images like this on our nightly TV news ???
"Arab world in revolt, how will the West fare?"
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1296163674/58#58

Title: Re: islam and jews
Post by chicken_lipsforme on Mar 15^th, 2011 at 9:07am

Those are horrific photos Yadda.
And you are correct at the double standards that has been placed apon the Israeli's now for decades, and not just by the media.
I hope the coward that did this burns in hell.

Title: Re: islam and jews
Post by Lisa on Mar 15^th, 2011 at 2:03pm

Those photos were heart breaking to view.

It truly sends home the message that this BS needs to stop NOW!

Title: Re: islam and jews
Post by Amadd on Mar 16^th, 2011 at 7:33am

Ahhh..those muslim kids, they blow up so fast don't they?

Title: Re: islam and jews
Post by Foolosophy on Mar 17^th, 2011 at 9:25am

This is a standard murder case - happens almost everyday in the USA and around the world. Who is the murderer?

For every Israeli killed there are 37 Palestinians killed by the ilegally occupying IDF. For children the ratio is about 22:1

And of course the situation is distorted in the Western media because the suffering and killings etc of Palestinians arent reported in the same way

Title: Re: islam and jews
Post by Yadda on Mar 17^th, 2011 at 10:21am

My response to the post, #28, by 'Foolosophy'

"Lies, damned lies, and statistics."

'Palestinians' [i.e. good moslems] are NOTORIOUS, for their lying, and treachery, and for ALWAYS falsely portraying themselves as 'victims'.

If a moslem were to assure me that the bright thing up in the sky, was the sun, I WOULD SEEK A SECOND OPINION.

That, is the measure of the veracity i would always give to any account, which was related to me, by a moslem, by any moslem.

Proof ?

e.g.
Google;
pallywood victim hoaxes

Google
al dura hoax

Title: Re: islam and jews
Post by Foolosophy on Mar 17^th, 2011 at 11:33am

Yadda wrote on Mar 17^th, 2011 at 10:21am:

I am neither Jewish nor Islam - I have no vested interest in this debate.

All I know is that the Palestinians are under occupation and have rights under the UN charter to return to their territory that was taken post 1967 and that they have a right to defend themselves.

There are UN resolutions (many) relating to Israel's actions in the occupied territories. THe USA must simply stop vetoing these Resolutions and stop financially and militarily supporting the Israeli regime in Tel Aviv.

The USA should NOT be involved in any peace process (they have a record of simply stone walling the process and being impartial)

The other critical issue that is outstanding with respect to Israel is its compliance with the Neclear Non-preliferation Treaty (NNPT)

Israel must allow allow international inspections like all other nations do - including Iran.

How can Israeli diplomats gallop all over the planet calimign they want open transperancy with all other nations nuclear programs etc and wish to have peace when they possess 200+ nuclear weapons and wont even declare their existence or allow inspection?

That sort of attitude sets the standard for other nations to follow

Its not what the world needs.

If you dont wish to lsiten to common sense and basic moral axioms susch as the principle of Universality, then we will get the result that we deserve - WAR and violence.

Unless of course this is what you want for other motives?

well is it Yadda? 8-)

Title: Re: islam and jews
Post by Yadda on Mar 17^th, 2011 at 12:15pm

Foolosophy wrote on Mar 17^th, 2011 at 11:33am:

If you dont wish to lsiten to common sense and basic moral axioms susch as the principle of Universality, then we will get the result that we deserve - WAR and violence.

Unless of course this is what you want for other motives?

well is it Yadda? 8-)

Moslems do not support or embrace a principle of 'Universality' among men [mankind].

i.e.
Moslems do not embrace the 'golden rule', to apply to all mankind .

As is expressed here;

Matthew 7:12
Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them: for this is the law and the prophets.

Moslems support and embrace a principle of,
moslems are good and righteous [because they ARE moslems];
everyone else, bad, evil.

THAT, is ISLAMIC doctrine.

+++

There will NEVER, EVER, be peace between Israel, and her moslem neighbours.

Because, moslems can never accept the presence of a Jewish [a non-moslem] state in their midst.

For moslems to accept the presence of a Jewish state in their midst, would be a contradiction in terms.

To accept such a circumstance would be, un-ISLAMIC.

i.e.
'Peace', is something which moslems share, WITH OTHER MOSLEMS, exclusively.

That is a very basic ISLAMIC paradigm, and i will say that again;

'Peace', is something which moslems share, WITH OTHER MOSLEMS, exclusively.

But NEVER, EVER, with unbelievers.

Unbelievers must be struggled against, always.

THAT, is ISLAMIC doctrine.

+++

The Jews of Israel, are not moslems, so, the Jews must be fought, and subdued, or killed.

"Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued. "
Koran 9.29

The Jews of Israel, are not moslems, so, the Jews are the friends of SATAN [because Jews reject ISLAM's authority over their lives].
The Koran states that fact.
And so, the Jews must be fought, and subdued or killed.
THAT, is what ISLAM demands of moslems.

"...And why should ye not fight in the cause of Allah...Those who believe fight in the cause of Allah, and those who reject Faith Fight in the cause of Evil: So fight ye against the friends of Satan:.."
Koran 4.74-76

"Allah 's Apostle said, " I have been ordered to fight with the people till they say, 'None has the right to be worshipped but Allah,' ...."
hadithsunnah/bukhari #004.052.196

p.s.
I am not Jewish, either.

Title: Re: islam and jews
Post by Foolosophy on Mar 17^th, 2011 at 12:29pm

Yadda wrote on Mar 17^th, 2011 at 12:15pm:

Foolosophy wrote on Mar 17^th, 2011 at 11:33am:

Moslems do not support or embrace a principle of 'Universality' among men [mankind].

i.e.
Moslems do not embrace the 'golden rule', to apply to all mankind .

Neither does the fascist likudians in Israel - and this departure also forms the basis of US foreign Policy.

Its interesting that you quote the Gospels because the Judaic faith is all bout rejecting CHristianity. Orthodox Jews in Israel burn copies of the GOspels or the New Testament in the streets.

I really cannot see the difference between the extremists and findamentalists on both sides of this conflict (occuaption)

The issue is the occupation post 1967 - the illegal settlement building, illegal blockage of GAZA and the west bank, illegal security wall erection etc.

This is a simple problem to solve - but alas one side does not wish to negotiate in good faith and prefers to continue its expansionism and war crimes in the region.

I really cant see how you can on the one hand be digusted with the way the Tibetan society was dismantled by the Chinese and yet cannot even recognise the Palestinian plight.

It takes courage to be true to ones own principles and to be morally consistent.

Youre either for freedom and democratic enlightenment ideals or youre not - cant pick and chose when you wish because of vested interests or cowardice

Title: Re: islam and jews
Post by Yadda on Mar 17^th, 2011 at 12:57pm

Foolosophy wrote on Mar 17^th, 2011 at 12:29pm:

The issue is the occupation post 1967 - the illegal settlement building, illegal blockage of GAZA and the west bank, illegal security wall erection etc.

This is a simple problem to solve - but alas one side does not wish to negotiate in good faith and prefers to continue its expansionism and war crimes in the region.

I really cant see how you can on the one hand be digusted with the way the Tibetan society was dismantled by the Chinese and yet cannot even recognise the Palestinian plight.

It takes courage to be true to ones own principles and to be morally consistent.

Youre either for freedom and democratic enlightenment ideals or youre not - cant pick and chose when you wish because of vested interests or cowardice

Foolosophy,

Go and tell it to the Christians in Darfur.
Go and tell it to the Christians in Ethiopia.
Go and tell it to the Christians in Nigeria.
Go and tell it to the Christians in Indonesia.
Go and tell it to the Christians in Turkey.
Go and tell it to the Hindi in India.
Go and tell it to the Hindi in Kashmir.
Go and tell it to the Buddhists in southern Thailand.
etc, etc, etc....

THE RELIGION OF PEACE
http://thereligionofpeace.com/

Sudan -
An estimated 2 million Christians have been murdered in the last 20 years, in Sudan by good MOSLEMS.

Google,
2 million christians killed 20 years sudan

The poor 'Palestinians' ???
The poor 'Palestinians' ???
The poor 'Palestinians' ???

"...It takes courage to be true to ones own principles and to be morally consistent."

You raging hypocrite.

Title: Re: islam and jews
Post by Jasignature on Mar 17^th, 2011 at 1:17pm

After the Moslems do to the French
what the Germans did to the Jews
Both Moslem & Jew will 'Unite'
and go for the Italians.

Title: Re: islam and jews
Post by Foolosophy on Mar 17^th, 2011 at 3:28pm

Yadda wrote on Mar 17^th, 2011 at 12:57pm:

Foolosophy wrote on Mar 17^th, 2011 at 12:29pm:

I can see why there hasnt been a solution to this simple problem.

When one must deal with racists such as Yadda what hope is there for the world hey folks?

Yadda justifies his immoral stance by bringing up the atrocities of others.

And of course according to the world of Yadda, the only injusticies are those pertinent to the expanionist imperialism of the Israel military state.

Everything theat the Israel military juggernaut does in its illigitimate occupancy is in Self Defence and for the betterment of humanity - LOL LOL

Title: Re: islam and jews
Post by Soren on Mar 17^th, 2011 at 5:54pm

The occupation of the West Bank by Israel is no more illgitimate than was its occupation by Jordan before 1967.
Building settlements on the occupied WB isn't illegal, just unhelpful. Settlement building would be illegal only if the WB had been part of a sovereign state when it was occupies. It wasn't.
Israel has no claim on any overeign territory and would gladly trade the West bank for peace. But there is no Arab power near and far that could guarantee peace if the west bank is surrendered to the Arabs. (See Gaza).

The conflict is perpetual because both side want the impossible: the recognition of Israel by the Arabs.

Title: Re: islam and jews
Post by Foolosophy on Mar 17^th, 2011 at 9:18pm

Soren wrote on Mar 17^th, 2011 at 5:54pm:

The Arab league of nations have already recognised the right for ISrael to exist in the region - BUT to the original 1948 borders

The issue has always been about returning to pre 1967 annexing of Palestinian territory and the cesation of the occupation (ie settlements, illegal barriers, illegal blockades etc)

Israel is the NUMBER ONE violator of UN security council resolutions in the world - but of course any violations are supposed to be white washed form the history books due to the controlled US veto.

The settlement building is illegal under any international legal framework including the UN charters.

Its irrelevant whether Israel and its client state USA ignore its iligitimacy. That doesnt change the reality.

Title: Re: islam and jews
Post by Yadda on Mar 18^th, 2011 at 6:11am

Foolosophy wrote on Mar 17^th, 2011 at 3:28pm:

I can see why there hasnt been a solution to this simple problem.

When one must deal with racists such as Yadda what hope is there for the world hey folks?

RACISTS, EXAMPLE #1,
IMAGE

God bless Hitler?

RACISTS, EXAMPLE #2,
IMAGE

The real holocaust is coming?

RACISTS, EXAMPLE #3,
In the UK, in public places, moslems have been heard to scream;
"Slaughter the Jews!!"

Google;
"slaughter the jews"

That is, those are, examples of racism, imo.

+++

Foolosophy, i condemn racism.

Yet you call me a 'racist'.

Apparently, because i condemn ISLAMIC supremacism, and because i condemn moslem violence against non-moslems ???

Because, i condemn moslems who justify violence against non-moslems, because they are, non-moslems ???

+++

ISLAMIC BIGOTRY - inciting and motivating moslem violence against non-moslems

"O ye who believe! Fight those of the disbelievers who are near to you, and let them find harshness in you, and know that Allah is with those who keep their duty (unto Him)."
Koran 9.123

"...And why should ye not fight in the cause of Allah...Those who believe fight in the cause of Allah, and those who reject Faith Fight in the cause of Evil: So fight ye against the friends of Satan:.."
Koran 4.74-76

"Fighting [against unbelievers] is prescribed for you, and [if] ye dislike it.....Allah knoweth, and ye know not."
Koran 2.216

"Allah hath purchased of the believers their persons and their goods;....they fight in His cause, and slay and are slain:..."
Koran 9.111

Yes, i condemn moslems,
...for their actions in the world, and for the choices, which moslems embrace.

Yes, i condemn moslems,
...for choosing to embrace a philosophy [ISLAM] which tells moslems that it is 'lawful' for moslems, to kill human beings who do not believe, as they believe.

Foolosophy,
You call me a 'racist'.

Foolosophy,
Is ISLAM, are moslems, a 'race' of people ???

NO THEY ARE NOT.

Therefore, your 'logic', in calling me a 'racist', escapes me.

By any fair definition [of their actions in the world], moslems are fascist ideologues.

IMO, all moslems are fascist ideologues, because;
All moslems, themselves, choose to embrace a philosophy [ISLAM] which tells moslems that it is 'lawful' for moslems, to kill human beings who do not believe, as they believe.

Evidence for that claim ?

ISLAMIC law texts declare whom moslems can lawfully kill,
....i.e. 'unbelievers', 'those who reject Faith'.

"Ibn 'Abbas reported that the Prophet said: "The bare essence of Islam and the basics of the religion are three [acts], upon which Islam has been established. Whoever leaves one of them becomes an unbeliever and his blood may legally be spilled. [The acts are:] Testifying that there is no God except Allah, the obligatory prayers, and the fast of Ramadan."...."
law/fiqhussunnah/fus3_50
Cited at this www site...
http://www.islamonline.net/English/Ramadan/1424/10/fiqhi_issues/Rulings_of_Fasting/article_02.shtml

n.b. "Whoever......becomes an unbeliever.....his blood may legally be spilled."

That doctrinal determination by ISLAM, is essentially repeated here, in the Hadith...

"...the Prophet said, If somebody (a Muslim) discards his religion, kill him."
hadithsunnah/bukhari/ #004.052.260

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Foolosophy,
You call me a 'racist'.

Foolosophy, here is another word, 'imbecile'.

Foolosophy, do you know the meaning of the word 'imbecile' ???

Go look it up, in an English dictionary.

p.s.
You are still a raging hypocrite, imo.
An imbecilic raging hypocrite perhaps, but a raging hypocrite just the same, imo.

Why a hypocrite?

Because you said,

"...It takes courage to be true to ones own principles and to be morally consistent."

But, by what you have said, you clearly give ISLAMIC supremacism and its attendant violence, a 'pass'.

And you even try to portray such violence as 'victimhood'.

IMO, you are either wilfully ignorant, or intentionally evil.

You choose.

Title: Re: islam and jews
Post by Yadda on Mar 18^th, 2011 at 6:45am

Foolosophy wrote on Mar 17^th, 2011 at 9:18pm:

1948, 1967, 1973, etc, etc.

In the conflict that exists between Israel and her neighbours, the moslem nations surrounding Israel have always been the belligerents, the aggressors.

Further, international law allows nations who are attacked [e.g. the state of Israel, 1948], to occupy and annex land that was previously recognised as being a part of another state [e.g. Arab states, 1948] because of aggression and attacks, upon a neighbouring state [Israel, 1948].

And international laws does not prohibit a state which was attacked [e.g. the state of Israel, 1948], from occupying and annexing the lands of an aggressor, so as to prevent further attacks.

BECAUSE;
"...the effect of such (a) prohibition would be to guarantee to all potential aggressors that, even if their aggression failed, all territory lost in the attempt would be automatically returned to them. Such a rule would be absurd to the point of lunacy."

"ISRAEL AND INTERNATIONAL LAW....Israel’s presence in all these areas pending negotiation of new borders is entirely lawful, since Israel entered them lawfully in self-defence. International law forbids acquisition by unlawful force, but not where, as in the case of Israel’s self-defence in 1967, the entry on the territory was lawful. It does not so forbid it,....for the effect of such prohibition would be to guarantee to all potential aggressors that, even if their aggression failed, all territory lost in the attempt would be automatically returned to them. Such a rule would be absurd to the point of lunacy. There is no such rule..."
http://www.melaniephillips.com/diary/?p=1528

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The world community needs to ask itself...
Why should Israel return the land it took in self defence, repulsing the ISLAMIC inspired aggression of local moslem states, when those states and peoples today, still declare, often openly, their enmity against the state of Israel???

Why should the belligerent moslem, and ISLAMIST peoples surrounding Israel be rewarded for their aggression???

It makes no sense to try to compel Israel to return those lands.

IMO, Israel should have immediately annexed that land, the land it secured and took, as a consequence of Arab/ISLAMIC aggression.

Israel is the ancient homeland of the Jewish people.

And today, imo, Israel should be recognised by mankind as the homeland of the Jewish people.

+++

Foolosophy said,

"The Arab league of nations have already recognised the right for ISrael to exist in the region - BUT to the original 1948 borders..."

Insincere, sneeky, moslem liars.

Whats new ?

Nothing under the sun.

Google;
mohammed treaty of

The Treaty of Hudaibiya, details moslem treachery, and snakyness, towards those with whom moslems make agreements regarding the cessation of hostilities.

i.e.
When moslems are militarily weak, ISLAM counsels moslems to make a treaty, with your enemies.
When militarily strong again, BREAK you treaty with your enemies.

ISLAM, confirmed by the contents of the Koran, justifies constant warfare against 'those who reject Faith'...

e.g.
1/ Koran 2.98 - "...Allah is an enemy to those who reject Faith." [i.e. 'Unbelief' is a crime.].
[ - - The enemy of moslems is identified. All of 'unbelieving' mankind, are the declared enemy of moslems.]

2/ Koran 47:8-11 - "...those who reject Allah have no protector."
[ - - Here, it is clearly stated to every good moslem, that moslem enmity, violence, and warfare, against 'those who reject Faith', is morally justified, and 'lawful'. /sarc off]

3/ Koran 4.74-76 - "...those who reject Faith Fight in the cause of Evil:..."
[ - - Those who reject 'Faith' are ipso facto, 'rightly' deemed as being innately evil by ISLAM, and by Allah. Therefore those who reject 'Faith', are the rightful targets of moslem enmity, violence, and warfare.
...'those who reject Faith' are also described [Koran 4.74-76], as 'oppressors' and as, 'the friends of Satan'.]

And the corollary of point #3, that, "...those who reject Faith Fight in the cause of Evil:...", is therefore point #1, "...Allah is an enemy to those who reject Faith.".

Title: Re: islam and jews
Post by Soren on Mar 18^th, 2011 at 8:08am

Foolosophy wrote on Mar 17^th, 2011 at 9:18pm:

Soren wrote on Mar 17^th, 2011 at 5:54pm:

The Arab league of nations have already recognised the right for ISrael to exist in the region - BUT to the original 1948 borders

Well, that must come as a shoking news to the Arab League members among these UN member countries because nobody has told them:

Algeria, Chad, Comoros, Djibouti, Guinea, Libya, Mali, Morocco, Niger, Somalia, Sudan, Tunisia, The Sahrawi Arab Democratic Republic of Western Sahara (in exile,) Cuba, North Korea, Afghanistan, Bangladesh, Bhutan, Maldives, Pakistan, Brunei, Indonesia, Malaysia, Bahrain, Iran, Iraq, Lebanon, Kuwait, Oman, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Syria, United Arab Emirates and Yemen

Apart from Cuba and North Korea, do you notice any commonality? Yes, they are all Anglican-majority countries.

Title: Re: islam and jews
Post by Foolosophy on Mar 18^th, 2011 at 9:06am

Gee, there is a lot of anti-islamic racism in here

wonder who could be fueling that? and for what purpose?

Title: Re: islam and jews
Post by Yadda on Mar 18^th, 2011 at 10:00am

Soren wrote on Mar 18^th, 2011 at 8:08am:

Algeria, Chad, Comoros, Djibouti, Guinea, Libya, Mali, Morocco, Niger, Somalia, Sudan, Tunisia, The Sahrawi Arab Democratic Republic of Western Sahara (in exile,) Cuba, North Korea, Afghanistan, Bangladesh, Bhutan, Maldives, Pakistan, Brunei, Indonesia, Malaysia, Bahrain, Iran, Iraq, Lebanon, Kuwait, Oman, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Syria, United Arab Emirates and Yemen

A list of the 'usual suspects' ???

To my eyes, there seems to be quite a few likely candidates to be members of the United Nations Human Rights Commission.

The United Nations Human Rights Commission !!

What a sad, sad, joke world politics is, in these days.

Just retrieved from my archives, back in 2008;

Quote:

If we are talking of human rights, let us examine the 'so called', United Nations Human Rights Commission.

That organisation is a cabal of member states, who are among the worlds most serious offenders, against human rights!

Members include...

China [Tiananmen Square, continuing human rights abuses, Tibet.] !!,
Zimbabwe [what need i say????] !!,
Saudi Arabia [persecution of Christians, and muslim apostates,
....Google, Saudi Arabia maid abuse ] !!,
Pakistan [persecution of Christians, and muslim apostates] !!,
Sudan [ethnic cleansing, on a racial divide, in Darfur] !!,
Egypt [persecution of Christians, and muslim apostates] !!

Some past members of UNHRC include...
Algeria, Vietnam, Syria and Libya.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Commission_on_Human_Rights#Criticism

Title: Re: islam and jews
Post by Yadda on Mar 18^th, 2011 at 10:10am

Foolosophy wrote on Mar 18^th, 2011 at 9:06am:

Gee, there is a lot of anti-islamic racism in here

We cannot be anti-islamic racists, Einstein.

Sorry, i meant, Foolosophy.

Err, why not ????

Because ISLAM is not a 'race' of people, .....Einstein.

Just about anyone who cares to, can be an ISLAMIST bigot.

"......the curse of Allah is on those without Faith."
Koran 2.089

The Koran, inciting moslem hatred of non-moslems.

"....Lo! Allah is an enemy to those who reject Faith."
Koran 2.98

etc, etc, etc,

What is you IQ, Foolosophy ???

+200 no doubt !

LOL

Title: Re: islam and jews
Post by Foolosophy on Mar 18^th, 2011 at 10:11am

Yadda,

Surely you're not an apologist for occupation and crimes against humanity?

You do accept the principle of Universality dont you?

Unless of course you have divided up the human population on this planet into classes of worthiness based upon your own bigotry?

Where are you coming from? What is your quest online?
What message are you spreading and why?

At least be honest about that before you even attempt to engage in conversation in here

Otherwise your opinions on this serious issues will have the same credibility as that of the tobacco Corporation CEO's when they testified in the US congress that to their knowledge smoking tobacco did not affect your health or increase the risk of getting serious diseases and illneses such as cancer.

So which is it Mr. Seinfeld?

Title: Re: islam and jews
Post by Foolosophy on Mar 18^th, 2011 at 10:14am

Yadda wrote on Mar 18^th, 2011 at 10:10am:

Foolosophy wrote on Mar 18^th, 2011 at 9:06am:

Gee, there is a lot of anti-islamic racism in here

We cannot be anti-islamic racists, Einstein.

Sorry, i meant, Foolosophy.

We? You mean you cannot think by yourself? You require a cult to justify your racism.

Well enlighten everyone in here

what sort of racist are you?

Title: Re: islam and jews
Post by Lisa on Mar 18^th, 2011 at 10:23am

There is a lot of racism around these days.

These boards are prolific insofar as racism is concerned.

Title: Re: islam and jews
Post by Foolosophy on Mar 18^th, 2011 at 10:36am

Lisa Jones wrote on Mar 18^th, 2011 at 10:23am:

There is a lot of racism around these days.

These boards are prolific insofar as racism is concerned.

I realise that - unfortunately people who cannot vent their hate based ideas and racist ideologies (all based on delusional ethics and fear) in the work environment and schools etc, find the internet an easy annonymous outlet to publicise their hatred.

They say that people's TRUE character is revealed over the chat rooms anf forums.

Soem of the aruguments I have read by the apologists of war and violence is just astonishing to sya the least - insane and immoral

Title: Re: islam and jews
Post by Lisa on Mar 18^th, 2011 at 10:38am

I know and I agree.

Title: Re: islam and jews
Post by chicken_lipsforme on Mar 18^th, 2011 at 10:40am

Foolosophy wrote on Mar 17^th, 2011 at 9:18pm:

Soren wrote on Mar 17^th, 2011 at 5:54pm:

Since when is any country on the planet not going to expand in it's population and require more housing.
Some of these so called 'settlements' have populations over 500,000 people.
They are not settlements, and that term is misleading at best.

And all the UN Charters in the world pushed along by the perfidious Arab League can't change that.
What they couldn't acheive through war, they are trying to acheive through the UN.

The reason Israel is the number one violators of UN Resolutions is because those Resolutions threaten Israels very security.
Where was the UN when Israel was fighting four wars to the knife for it's own existence.
Where was the UN when Hamas was firing rockets into Israel when the IDF withdrew from Gaza in 2005 at the behest of the UN?
Where was the UN when Hezbollah was firing rockets into Israel in 2006, before the IDF were forced to go into Southern Lebanon and opened up a very large can of whoopass?
Where is UNIFIL whilst Hezbollah re-arms under UNFILS nose today?

It's all very nice of the Arab League to agree to Israel returning to the 1948 borders, considering they were absolutely flogged in four wars they initiated trying to destroy Israel.
They left thousands upon thousands of young men dead in their twisted blackened tanks and destroyed aircraft in the desert.

So I would suggest that Israel is not going to be returning anything.
Is the US going to give Delaware or New York back to the Indians?
Are the Ottomans going to get Jordan back?

Speaking of Jordan, did you know 60% of their population is 'Palestinian', including the Kings wife.
Perhaps the 'Palestinians' can go there, that's right they don't want them either.
In fact, the Jordanians slaughtered more 'Palestinians' in 1970, than Israel has ever did since 1948.

Do you imagine for one moment that had the Arab League been successful in ridding the Middle East of Israel they were going to set up a 'Palestine' for all the left wingers to salivate over?
Of course not, Egypt, Jordan, Lebanon and Syria would have all had their piece of land, and who the hell would have spoken a word about 'Palestinians'.

You speak about 'Palestinian' land, they never had that land before throughout history because it was always part of some other countries empire.
The West Bank wasn't 'Palestinian', it was Jordanian when the Israel seized it and British before that.

The blockade of Gaza has already been shown not to be illegal, and the Israel's have a right to search any ships suspected of smuggling weapons into Gaza for the terrorists to fire off into Israeli towns.
If the UN finds the embargo so wrong and 'illegal', where is their offer to guarantee Israel's security by placing men on the ground and UN ships searching arms smugglers?

The terrorists can lay down their arms tomorrow and there will be peace.
If Israel lays it's arms down tomorrow, their will be no Israel the day after.

Title: Re: islam and jews
Post by Lisa on Mar 18^th, 2011 at 10:43am

WTF does racism have to do in a topic about religion?

I've not read back .. and something tells that is a good thing.

Title: Re: islam and jews
Post by Yadda on Mar 18^th, 2011 at 10:57am

Foolosophy wrote on Mar 18^th, 2011 at 10:11am:

Yadda,

Surely you're not an apologist for occupation and crimes against humanity?

Humanity ???

LOL

IMO, most of 'humanity' are possessed by demons.

My truck is not with demons, but in this 'prison', i am [like everyone else] forced to interact with other 'inmates' here.

God watches us.

He knows who are his.

Malachi 3:13
Your words have been stout against me, saith the LORD. Yet ye say, What have we spoken so much against thee?
14 Ye have said, It is vain to serve God: and what profit is it that we have kept his ordinance, and that we have walked mournfully before the LORD of hosts?
15 And now we call the proud happy; yea, they that work wickedness are set up; yea, they that tempt God are even delivered.
16 Then they that feared the LORD spake often one to another: and the LORD hearkened, and heard it, and a book of remembrance was written before him for them that feared the LORD, and that thought upon his name.
17 And they shall be mine, saith the LORD of hosts, in that day when I make up my jewels; and I will spare them, as a man spareth his own son that serveth him.
18 Then shall ye return, and discern between the righteous and the wicked, between him that serveth God and him that serveth him not.

Quote:

You do accept the principle of Universality dont you?

LOL

I accept the 'principle' that demons 'universally', wish to dominate the souls of men.

And separate mankind, from the spirit of God.

Quote:

Unless of course you have divided up the human population on this planet into classes of worthiness based upon your own bigotry?

That's rich, Mr Black Pot.

Quote:

Where are you coming from? What is your quest online?
What message are you spreading and why?

I want TRUTH to shine into the darkness.

When i eventually relinquish this 'prison', i want to stand in the light.

And i want demons to retreat into the darkness.

I will, they will.

I will be with my kind, and they, they will be with their kind.

Just as God intends.

The holy, will be separated from the perverse.

Just as God intends.

Quote:

At least be honest about that before you even attempt to engage in conversation in here

Yes, thank you, Mr Black Pot.

Title: Re: islam and jews
Post by Soren on Mar 18^th, 2011 at 10:58am

Foolosophy wrote on Mar 18^th, 2011 at 10:14am:

Yadda wrote on Mar 18^th, 2011 at 10:10am:

Foolosophy wrote on Mar 18^th, 2011 at 9:06am:

Gee, there is a lot of anti-islamic racism in here

We cannot be anti-islamic racists, Einstein.

Sorry, i meant, Foolosophy.

We? You mean you cannot think by yourself? You require a cult to justify your racism.

Well enlighten everyone in here

what sort of racist are you?

You are not a mere fool but a complete smacking moron if you think that being unsympathetic or even hostile towards Islam is racist.
It is at least as staggeringly stupid as saying that atheists are racists towards Catholics.

People who bandy 'racisms' around when they mean religious or political or ethical convictions are showing off their lazines and/or inability to express a cohesive view. They bluster because they can't think or can't be bothered to think, ie they are morons or fools.

Title: Re: islam and jews
Post by Foolosophy on Mar 18^th, 2011 at 11:10am

Soren wrote on Mar 18^th, 2011 at 10:58am:

Foolosophy wrote on Mar 18^th, 2011 at 10:14am:

Yadda wrote on Mar 18^th, 2011 at 10:10am:

Foolosophy wrote on Mar 18^th, 2011 at 9:06am:

Gee, there is a lot of anti-islamic racism in here

We cannot be anti-islamic racists, Einstein.

Sorry, i meant, Foolosophy.

We? You mean you cannot think by yourself? You require a cult to justify your racism.

Well enlighten everyone in here

what sort of racist are you?

Title: Re: islam and jews
Post by Lisa on Mar 18^th, 2011 at 11:12am

Lisa Jones wrote on Mar 18^th, 2011 at 10:43am:

WTF does racism have to do in a topic about religion?

I've not read back .. and something tells that is a good thing.

I've read back a bit now .. I reckon people ought to remember that religion is NOT equal to race.

Eg:

I was BORN half Greek/half Italian. I cannot change that no matter what. I have NO CHOICE here.

Religion is different.

Eg:

I was BORN Catholic/Orthodox (because my parents stated this at birth) .. but then I changed to Protestant AFTER I investigated matters of religion myself. It was effectively a CHOICE .. MY CHOICE!

Ya dig?

Title: Yadda explains 'Universality' i.e. 'humanism'
Post by Yadda on Mar 18^th, 2011 at 11:27am

Foolosophy wrote on Mar 18^th, 2011 at 11:10am:

You do not adhere to simple principle of Universality

You pick and choose when you apply your deluded morality

And that picking and choosing is based upon race or religion

It makes sense that you are a racist

If we choose to embrace [and be 'tolerant'] those who are wicked,
...we OURSELVES, always become wicked.

IMO, if we join what is precious with what is vile, we do not in that act, 'improve' that which is vile.

We merely corrupt that which is precious.

People who love God, should seek to separate themselves from 'humanism' [i.e. the 'tolerance' of any wickedness].

e.g.
I have two buckets.
The first bucket is full of clean, fresh water.
The second bucket is full of sewage.

Q.
If i pour both buckets into a third container, what do i get?

A.
A third container, full of diluted sewage.

Conclusion?
While i could safely drink from the 1st bucket, i could *not* safely drink from the 2nd bucket, or the 3rd container.

So it is with evil, that is 'tolerated' by good people.

No matter how many times we repeat the phrase, "Tolerance is good.",
...our tolerance of what is clearly evil, is not a virtue.

It is a process, a progression.

Whenever we choose to become tolerant of evil [in our midst], it is certain, as night follows day, that we ourselves, will become evil.
i.e.
If we are tolerant of what is clearly evil, it is because we too, now ARE evil.

When we embrace the concept of 'tolerance', but what we are prepared to tolerate is clearly evil,
...we, OURSELVES, become those, who are evil.

Our 'tolerance' of evil, is not tolerance.

It is wickedness!

Do you have any discernment remaining ???

2 Corinthians 6:17
Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you,
18 And will be a Father unto you, and ye shall be my sons and daughters, saith the Lord Almighty.

Title: Re: islam and jews
Post by chicken_lipsforme on Mar 18^th, 2011 at 11:38am

Can't argue with that yadda.
Good post.

Title: Re: islam and jews
Post by Foolosophy on Mar 18^th, 2011 at 11:39am

Yadda continues to quote the scriptures to validate his bigotry and hatred

Title: Re: islam and jews
Post by Soren on Mar 18^th, 2011 at 12:00pm

Foolosophy wrote on Mar 18^th, 2011 at 11:10am:

Well there is nohing else left but for you be a racist hatred based persona

You do not adhere to simple principle of Universality

You pick and choose when you apply your deluded morality

And that picking and choosing is based upon race or religion

It makes sense that you are a racist[/quote]

So, Fool, if I distinguish between race and religion I am a racists! ;D

Anyone who doesn't see things your way - the way of Chomsky and Pilger with IED - is islamophobic, racists, fascist, evil etc.

Tell you what, reading your posts I am also developing a distinct arseholeophobia and a heartless indifference towards your mental and emotional suffering. How cruel and despicable is that!!

PS
Ask your carer to wipe the spittle off your screen, Fool.

Title: Re: islam and jews
Post by chicken_lipsforme on Mar 18^th, 2011 at 12:01pm

Foolosophy wrote on Mar 18^th, 2011 at 11:39am:

Yadda continues to quote the scriptures to validate his bigotry and hatred

I can see you are a bucket 2 or 3 man yourself. ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: islam and jews
Post by Foolosophy on Mar 18^th, 2011 at 12:03pm

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Mar 18^th, 2011 at 12:01pm:

Foolosophy wrote on Mar 18^th, 2011 at 11:39am:

Yadda continues to quote the scriptures to validate his bigotry and hatred

I can see you are a bucket 2 or 3 man youself. ;D ;D ;D

Iam a Woman Captain Kirk

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Title: Re: islam and jews
Post by Soren on Mar 18^th, 2011 at 12:07pm

Foolosophy wrote on Mar 18^th, 2011 at 12:03pm:

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Mar 18^th, 2011 at 12:01pm:

Foolosophy wrote on Mar 18^th, 2011 at 11:39am:

Yadda continues to quote the scriptures to validate his bigotry and hatred

I can see you are a bucket 2 or 3 man youself. ;D ;D ;D

Iam a Woman Captain Kirk

1 of 3

You naughty little chit, your avatar says you are a bloke.
AN attempt to be taken more seriously than you would be as a woman, by any chance? Evidently no luck there.
Or a bit of self-hating misogyny?

In any case, I am not surprised that you don't even know whether you are an Arthur or a Martha.

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Title: Re: islam and jews
Post by Yadda on Mar 18^th, 2011 at 12:22pm

Soren wrote on Mar 18^th, 2011 at 12:07pm:

Foolosophy wrote on Mar 18^th, 2011 at 12:03pm:

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Mar 18^th, 2011 at 12:01pm:

Foolosophy wrote on Mar 18^th, 2011 at 11:39am:

Yadda continues to quote the scriptures to validate his bigotry and hatred

I can see you are a bucket 2 or 3 man youself. ;D ;D ;D

Iam a Woman Captain Kirk

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You naughty little chit, your avatar says you are a bloke.
AN attempt to be taken more seriously than you would be as a woman, by any chance? Evidently no luck there.
Or a bit of self-hating misogyny?

In any case, I am not surprised that you don't even know whether you are an Arthur or a Martha.

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Probably an expression of some measure of penis envy, that 'she' chooses to express her sexual orientation in the forum, with a male avatar. ;D

Don't ya think?

Or, is it just a case of a sub 20 IQ, ....that she couldn't select the correct avatar ????

I can't make my mind up. ;D

Title: Re: islam and jews
Post by chicken_lipsforme on Mar 18^th, 2011 at 12:46pm

Foolosophy wrote on Mar 18^th, 2011 at 12:03pm:

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Mar 18^th, 2011 at 12:01pm:

Foolosophy wrote on Mar 18^th, 2011 at 11:39am:

Yadda continues to quote the scriptures to validate his bigotry and hatred

I can see you are a bucket 2 or 3 man youself. ;D ;D ;D

Iam a Woman Captain Kirk

1 of 3

My apologies Hood, I was unaware you had a sex change.
Not that there is anything wrong with that mind you.

Title: Re: islam and jews
Post by Jasignature on Mar 18^th, 2011 at 12:55pm

Islam = a people without a leader (bottom of the pyramid)
Israel = a leader without a people (top of the pyramid)

...pretty sure that the Islamic breakdown of their society through the Palestinian expression will put the Israelis to the test.
"what to do with Moslems under our care?" Jew
"do we gas them?" another Jew
"No - we make them 'our' people and 'we' theirs" Jew
"unite?" the other Jew
"Yes - and then we attack the Italians in the name of Ishtar!" Jew
:) :)

Title: Re: islam and jews
Post by Yadda on Mar 18^th, 2011 at 1:06pm

It_is_the_Darkness wrote on Mar 18^th, 2011 at 12:55pm:

Islam = a people without a leader (bottom of the pyramid)

A people at the bottom of the pyramid ???

Certainly a people with a very 'low', 'common denominator'.

A people without a leader ???

Do not be misled, ISLAM certainly has a leader.

Moslems must bow down to him, every day.

+++

Psalms 146:8
The LORD openeth the eyes of the blind: the LORD raiseth them that are bowed down: the LORD loveth the righteous:

Title: Re: islam and jews
Post by Jasignature on Mar 18^th, 2011 at 2:57pm

Sorry, I should have clarified.

The "bottom of the pyramid" refers to people who tend to 'outbreed' another as a form of empowerment, this usually means poverty.
The "top of the pyramid" refers to the (few) people who use 'wealth' as a form of empowerment.

Or
Islam promotes a state of being of "Teamwork" or power by population and numbers.
Israel promotes a state of being of "Individualism" or power my wealth and might.

So you could say the Holy City will unite with the Holy Land.
Not that the true nature of the Middle-East has anything to do with the Asian 'city' or the African 'Land' ;) anyway.

Title: Re: islam and jews
Post by Foolosophy on Mar 18^th, 2011 at 3:45pm

Yadda wrote on Mar 18^th, 2011 at 1:06pm:

It_is_the_Darkness wrote on Mar 18^th, 2011 at 12:55pm:

Islam = a people without a leader (bottom of the pyramid)

Racist mumbo jumbo

Typical of the demented fascist mentality

Title: Re: islam and jews
Post by Foolosophy on Mar 18^th, 2011 at 3:47pm

Soren wrote on Mar 18^th, 2011 at 12:07pm:

Foolosophy wrote on Mar 18^th, 2011 at 12:03pm:

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Mar 18^th, 2011 at 12:01pm:

Foolosophy wrote on Mar 18^th, 2011 at 11:39am:

Yadda continues to quote the scriptures to validate his bigotry and hatred

I can see you are a bucket 2 or 3 man youself. ;D ;D ;D

Iam a Woman Captain Kirk

1 of 3

I appreciate you bringing this typo to my attention - I will correct it ASAP

I am thankful to anyone for assistance - even if they are racists

thanks

Title: Re: islam and jews
Post by Jasignature on Mar 18^th, 2011 at 4:39pm

Racist? I never mentioned anything of a person's physical appearance.

Me thinks you just can't get the 'BIG PICTURE' of how the world works.
...even philosophically.
Or you're just jealous that I can 'read between the lines' of how predictable Religions are in the greater scheme of things, let alone devalue their egos by showing their 'place' in the scheme of things.

Its terrible for a Religion to come to the understanding that they don't run the company, they won't be getting that promotion and that they will be working their days in the Data Centre or Mail Room.

I mean, even kids get the gist of such predictability pertaining to Religion. Go watch the Muppet movie "The Dark Crystal", that uses the insinuation of 'Fantasy' to express the gist of the matter.

...many Middle-Eastern people will jilt such things as Judaism, Christianity & Mohomeddism here in Australia for a more conventional, modern, constructive Religious experience.

Title: Re: islam and jews
Post by Baronvonrort on Mar 18^th, 2011 at 5:21pm

Foolosophy wrote on Mar 18^th, 2011 at 10:14am:

Yadda wrote on Mar 18^th, 2011 at 10:10am:

Foolosophy wrote on Mar 18^th, 2011 at 9:06am:

Gee, there is a lot of anti-islamic racism in here

We cannot be anti-islamic racists, Einstein.

Sorry, i meant, Foolosophy.

We? You mean you cannot think by yourself? You require a cult to justify your racism.

Well enlighten everyone in here

what sort of racist are you?

Only a fool would say something stupid like "anti islamic racism".
You should get a dictionary and look up racism before playing the race card.

Islam is an ideology a set of beliefs that guide life for muslims it has nothing to do with genetics.

Muslims are not a race of people the fact is muslims come from every race so criticism of Islam cannot be racism for the simple fact Islam is not a race it is an ideology.

Title: Re: islam and jews
Post by Jasignature on Mar 18^th, 2011 at 5:40pm

Agree with the Baron.

Throw the word "Racist" at people then only if they mention "Brown" people.
Even the fact that the person comes from a particular 'region' of the world means nothing because there are many other people besides Brown people living in the Middle-East, etc, etc.

I've been called a Racist today for saying Nip/Nippon/Nipponese instead of Jap/Japan/Japanese.
Where have I mentioned "Yellow" person/people or any other physical/genetic appearance??

Its like people yelling "football" although they have no clue what it is beyond that it isn't a form of Art.

Title: Re: islam and jews
Post by Baronvonrort on Mar 18^th, 2011 at 5:46pm

Has anyone read the book titled "Son of Hamas"?

Good interview with the author his father was one of the founders of Hamas its worth watching for insight into the arab/jew problem and its origins.

He exposes the sham called Islam.

"The biggest terrorist is allah god of the quran"

www.youtube.com/watch?v=tYXHKLmpVBs

Title: Re: islam and jews
Post by Foolosophy on Mar 18^th, 2011 at 6:25pm

It_is_the_Darkness wrote on Mar 18^th, 2011 at 5:40pm:

Its not about just what you say

Its about what is REALLY inside your heart

Most true racist dont say much at all - look at their actions, what they teach their children etc

Title: Re: islam and jews
Post by Jasignature on Mar 18^th, 2011 at 6:53pm

;D ;D ;D @ Foolosophy!

Title: Re: islam and jews
Post by Foolosophy on Mar 18^th, 2011 at 7:38pm

Its all over for the status quo

the walls are crumbling down

and all the USA and its client butcher states can do is plug one leaking hole after another

Its actually funny watching them go around like head less chooks

If only they REALLY promoted democracy int he region rather tha prop up dictactors and fascism

The countries in theri own backyard (central and south america) worked that out years ago.

Oil for Corporate Profit via the Blood route

Title: Re: islam and jews
Post by Lisa on Mar 19^th, 2011 at 1:49pm

Sooooo .. have we worked out that religion is one thing .. race is quite another?

Title: Re: islam and jews
Post by Yadda on Mar 19^th, 2011 at 7:17pm

Foolosophy wrote on Mar 18^th, 2011 at 7:38pm:

Dictionary;
fascism = = an authoritarian and nationalistic right-wing system of government.

Dictators and fascism, 'bigots' and 'racists'?

Italian fascism...

Quote:

"The State not only is authority which governs and molds individual wills with laws and values of spiritual life...
For the Fascist, everything is within the State and... neither individuals nor groups are outside the State...
For Fascism, the State is an absolute, before which individuals or groups are only relative...
Liberalism denied the State in the name of the individual;
Fascism reasserts the rights of the State as expressing the real essence of the individual."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italian_fascism#Doctrine

NOW COMPARE THE ABOVE, TO THE 'M.O.' [modus operandi] OF ISLAM [...from the Koran];

"Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued. "
Koran 9.29

"Fighting [against unbelievers] is prescribed for you, and [if] ye dislike it.....Allah knoweth, and ye know not."
Koran 2.216

"Let not the believers Take for friends or helpers Unbelievers rather than believers: if any do that, in nothing will there be help from Allah:"
Koran 3.028

"Unbelievers are unto you open enemies."
Koran 4.101

"O ye who believe! Take not for friends unbelievers rather than believers: Do ye wish to offer Allah an open proof against yourselves?"
Koran 4.144

"Truly, if the Hypocrites, and those in whose hearts is a disease, and those who stir up sedition in the City....whenever they are found, they shall be seized and slain (without mercy)."
Koran 33.60, 61

"If anyone desires a religion other than Islam (submission to Allah), never will it be accepted of him;...."
Koran 3.85

"O ye who believe! Fight those of the disbelievers who are near to you, and let them find harshness in you, and know that Allah is with those who keep their duty (unto Him)."
Koran 9.123

1/ Koran 2.98 - "...Allah is an enemy to those who reject Faith." [i.e. 'Unbelief' is a crime.].
[ - - The enemy of moslems is identified. All of 'unbelieving' mankind, are the declared enemy of moslems.]

2/ Koran 47:8-11 - "...those who reject Allah have no protector."
[ - - Here, it is clearly stated to every good moslem, that moslem enmity, violence, and warfare, against 'those who reject Faith', is morally justified, and 'lawful'. /sarc off]

3/ Koran 4.74-76 - "...those who reject Faith Fight in the cause of Evil:..."
[ - - Those who reject 'Faith' are ipso facto, 'rightly' deemed as being innately evil by ISLAM, and by Allah. Therefore those who reject 'Faith', are the rightful targets of moslem enmity, violence, and warfare.
...'those who reject Faith' are also described [Koran 4.74-76], as 'oppressors' and as, 'the friends of Satan'.]

And the corollary of point #3, that, "...those who reject Faith Fight in the cause of Evil:...", is therefore point #1, "...Allah is an enemy to those who reject Faith.".

"...And why should ye not fight in the cause of Allah...Those who believe fight in the cause of Allah, and those who reject Faith Fight in the cause of Evil: So fight ye against the friends of Satan:.."
Koran 4.74-76

The Hadith,
"...If somebody (a Muslim) discards his religion, kill him."
hadithsunnah/bukhari/ #004.052.260

"Allah 's Apostle said, " I have been ordered to fight with the people till they say, 'None has the right to be worshipped but Allah,' ...."
hadithsunnah/bukhari #004.052.196

And on, and on, and on.

+++

A moslem, is a person who chooses to embrace a philosophy [ISLAM] which tells moslems that it is 'lawful' for moslems, to kill those who do not believe, as they believe.

If moslems and the ISLAMIC philosophy are not fascists, then who are ???

Many people like 'Foolosophy' insist that those who scrutinise and criticise ISLAM, are 'bigots' and 'racists'?
Duh ???
Why do you think that is ???

ISLAM is not a race [of people].
ISLAM is a *deceitful*, violent, supremacist, fascist, political philosophy.
ISLAM is a *deceptive* and violent political entity, masquerading as a religion.

Wake up people.

Title: Re: islam and jews
Post by Soren on Mar 19^th, 2011 at 8:07pm

Foolosophy wrote on Mar 18^th, 2011 at 7:38pm:

Blustering is cheap.

Why don't you move away from the US sphere of influence and live in, say, China or North Korea or Cuba.
There you could live in 'real democracy rather than propped up dictatorships and fascism'.

I tell you why. It is because you are a complete smacking loony who hasn't the faintest idea about anything. And you are a big-mouth coward.

If you really had the conviction you blabber about you would have moved away from Australia a long time ago.

You are a fraud and a blustering idiot. ( I am holding back on the invective, you understand.)

The way you live is a direct contradiction of every utterance you make. You couldn't be falser if you tried.

Title: Re: islam and jews
Post by Foolosophy on Mar 19^th, 2011 at 8:23pm

The 3 pillars of fascism to emerge from the 20th century

- Bolshevism
- Nazism
- Corporatism

Enjoy your delisional slavery my friends and dont forget to bend over each day and receive your corporate dividends

Title: Re: islam and jews
Post by Yadda on Mar 19^th, 2011 at 8:34pm

Soren wrote on Mar 19^th, 2011 at 8:07pm:

Blustering is cheap.

Why don't you move away from the US sphere of influence and live in, say, China or North Korea or Cuba.
There you could live in 'real democracy rather than propped up dictatorships and fascism'.

I tell you why. It is because you are a complete smacking loony who hasn't the faintest idea about anything. And you are a big-mouth coward.

If you really had the conviction you blabber about you would have moved away from Australia a long time ago.

You are a fraud and a blustering idiot. ( I am holding back on the invective, you understand.)

The way you live is a direct contradiction of every utterance you make. You couldn't be falser if you tried.

LOL ;)

+++

In actual fact Soren, 'Foolosophy', and many others, are defending those who he/'she' claims to despise;

Dictators and fascists, bigots and racists [i.e. ISLAMISTS, aka, good moslems].

Title: Re: islam and jews
Post by Soren on Mar 19^th, 2011 at 8:37pm

Foolosophy wrote on Mar 19^th, 2011 at 8:23pm:

You are an idiot and you enjoy being an idiot. You are uneducated, you are proudly uneducated. You have no excuse.

Title: Re: islam and jews
Post by Foolosophy on Mar 19^th, 2011 at 9:24pm

Yadda wrote on Mar 19^th, 2011 at 8:34pm:

Soren wrote on Mar 19^th, 2011 at 8:07pm:

Blustering is cheap.

Why don't you move away from the US sphere of influence and live in, say, China or North Korea or Cuba.
There you could live in 'real democracy rather than propped up dictatorships and fascism'.

I tell you why. It is because you are a complete smacking loony who hasn't the faintest idea about anything. And you are a big-mouth coward.

If you really had the conviction you blabber about you would have moved away from Australia a long time ago.

You are a fraud and a blustering idiot. ( I am holding back on the invective, you understand.)

The way you live is a direct contradiction of every utterance you make. You couldn't be falser if you tried.

And who supports these so called Islamic fascists that are running the Middle east for them so that Western Multinational OIl corporations can take the oil for next to nothing?

Yadda - your hatred of Palestinians and unending support for fascist Israeli expansionism in the region is breathtakingly hypocritical

Title: Re: islam and jews
Post by Yadda on Mar 19^th, 2011 at 9:47pm

Foolosophy wrote on Mar 19^th, 2011 at 9:24pm:

Yadda wrote on Mar 19^th, 2011 at 8:34pm:

In actual fact Soren, 'Foolosophy', and many others, are defending those who he/'she' claims to despise;

Dictators and fascists, bigots and racists [i.e. ISLAMISTS, aka, good moslems].

Foolosophy,

No.

You are the raging hypocrite.

Please, everyone who reads this post,
SEE THESE IMAGES, OF THE 'INNOCENT' PEOPLE Foolosophy IS DEFENDING.... here...
"Arab world in revolt, how will the West fare"
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1296163674/58#58

Israel has not been murdering 'Palestinians'.

Israel has been erecting these...
IMAGE...

To prevent wicked terrorist incidents such as this...

IMAGE...

Australians, imagine if this victim of ISLAM, this [bus] victim of an ISLAMIC 'martyr' bomber [above], was YOUR child.

Australians, do you IMAGINE, that such an 'occurrence' could not happen in Australia ???

THINK AGAIN.

IMAGE

BUT ACCORDING TO YOU, Foolosophy, ISRAELIS ARE CHILD KILLERS.

YOU Foolosophy, and all moslems, are the lying hypocrites.

+++

"Yea, they sacrificed their sons and their daughters unto devils,
And shed innocent blood, even the blood of their sons and of their daughters, whom they sacrificed unto the idols of Canaan: and the land was polluted with blood.
Thus were they defiled with their own works, and went a whoring with their own inventions."
Psalms 106

Title: Re: islam and jews
Post by Foolosophy on Mar 19^th, 2011 at 10:02pm

Yadda wrote on Mar 19^th, 2011 at 9:47pm:

Foolosophy wrote on Mar 19^th, 2011 at 9:24pm:

Yadda wrote on Mar 19^th, 2011 at 8:34pm:

In actual fact Soren, 'Foolosophy', and many others, are defending those who he/'she' claims to despise;

Dictators and fascists, bigots and racists [i.e. ISLAMISTS, aka, good moslems].

What was the Cast Lead operation about? lol

Why do you deny that you're Jewish?

And these barriers are fine - BUT not on annexed land post 1967

Build these walls around your 1948 borders - the borders you agreed to

Its all over anyway Yadda

Title: Re: islam and jews
Post by Foolosophy on Mar 19^th, 2011 at 10:23pm

“My biggest struggle,” he says, “is to rehumanize the Palestinians. There’s a whole machinery of brainwashing in Israel which really accompanies each of us from early childhood, and I’m a product of this machinery as much as anyone else. [We are taught] a few narratives that it’s very hard to break. That we Israelis are the ultimate and only victims. That the Palestinians are born to kill, and their hatred is irrational. That the Palestinians are not human beings like us? So you get a society without any moral doubts, without any questions marks, with hardly public debate. To raise your voice against all this is very hard.”

Gideon Levy (Jewish Journalist, Israel)

So if Gideon can see this and he lives in Israel, why cant Yadda?

Why does Yadda have so much hatred in his darkened racist heart?

Title: Re: islam and jews
Post by Yadda on Mar 19^th, 2011 at 10:25pm

Foolosophy wrote on Mar 19^th, 2011 at 10:02pm:

Yadda wrote on Mar 19^th, 2011 at 9:47pm:

ACCORDING TO YOU, Foolosophy, ISRAELIS ARE CHILD KILLERS.

What was the Cast Lead operation about?

Foolosophy,
Your feigned ignorance is so juvenile.
And so transparent.

Google;
rockets sderot

Q.
And why is Hamas rocketing civilians within Israel ???

A.
Because Hamas is defending peaceful moslems from Israeli aggression, of course!
/sarc off

Foolosophy wrote on Mar 19^th, 2011 at 10:02pm:

Why do you deny that you're Jewish?

I am not Jewish, and i have no knowledge of any Jewish heritage in my family.

Foolosophy wrote on Mar 19^th, 2011 at 10:02pm:

Its all over anyway Yadda

You do not know what you are fighting.

You imagine you do.

But you do not.

View the YOUTUBE promo, Farewell Israel: Bush, Iran, and the Revolt of Islam
In the opening scenes of this promo, the President of Iran Ahmadinejad declares to a vast and animated crowd,

"The ocean of rage of the people of the region will surge and eradicate the Zionist regime."

Now read these bible verses...
Isaiah 17:12,13
Isaiah 59:19
Jeremiah 46:7
Daniel 9:26

"Woe to the multitude of many people, which make a noise like the noise of the seas; and to the rushing of nations, that make a rushing like the rushing of mighty waters!
The nations shall rush like the rushing of many waters:"

Title: Re: islam and jews
Post by Foolosophy on Mar 19^th, 2011 at 10:29pm

“Today we have three kinds of people living under Israeli rule,” he explains. “We have Jewish Israelis, who have full democracy and have full civil rights. We have the Israeli Arabs, who have Israeli citizenship but are severely discriminated against. And we have the Palestinians in the Occupied Territories, who live without any civil rights, and without any human rights. Is that a democracy?”

He sits back and asks in a low tone, as if talking about a terminally ill friend: “How can you say it is a democracy when, in 62 years, there was not one single Arab village established? I don’t have to tell you how many Jewish towns and villages were established. Not one Arab village. How can you say it’s a democracy when research has shown repeatedly that Jews and Arabs get different punishments for the same crime? How can you say it’s a democracy when a Palestinian student can hardly rent an apartment in Tel Aviv, because when they hear his accent or his name almost nobody will rent to him? How can you say Israel is a democracy when? Jerusalem invests 577 shekels a year in a pupil in [Palestinian] East Jerusalem and 2372 shekels a year in a pupil from [Jewish] West Jerusalem. Four times less, only because of the child’s ethnicity! Every part of our society is racist.”

“I want to be proud of my country,” he says. “I am an Israeli patriot. I want us to do the right thing.” So this requires him to point out that Palestinian violence is – in truth – much more limited than Israeli violence, and usually a reaction to it. “The first twenty years of the occupation passed quietly, and we did not lift a finger to end it. Instead, under cover of the quiet, we built the enormous, criminal settlement enterprise,” where Palestinian land is seized by Jewish religious fundamentalists who claim it was given to them by God. Only then – after a long period of theft, and after their attempts at peaceful resistance were met with brutal violence – did the Palestinians become violent themselves. “What would happen if the Palestinians had not fired Qassams [the rockets shot at Southern Israel, including civilian towns]? Would Israel have lifted the economic siege? Nonsense. If the Gazans were sitting quietly, as Israel expects them to do, their case would disappear from the agenda. Nobody would give any thought to the fate of the people of Gaza if they had not behaved violently.”

Gideon Levy (Israeli Journalist, Tel Aviv)

Read it Yadda - educate yourself - free yourself from your hatred and racist bigotry

Title: Re: islam and jews
Post by Yadda on Mar 19^th, 2011 at 10:41pm

Foolosophy wrote on Mar 19^th, 2011 at 10:23pm:

Foolosophy,

These are the people of Gaza, who you are defending...

They throw acid into the faces of young 'uncovered' Gaza women...

Because they are 'warriors' of ISLAM.

And so brave, and so just.
/sarc off

"Israeli treatment of Palestinians"
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1229690857/119#119

Quote:

Dec. 2, 2006
Gaza women warned of immodesty
A....group calling itself the Just Swords of Islam issued a warning to Palestinian women in the Gaza Strip over the weekend that they must wear the hijab or face being targeted by the group's members.
.....The group said its followers last week threw acid at the face of a young woman who was dressed "immodestly" in the center of Gaza City....

Foolosophy,

How do you justify defending such monsters ???

Title: Re: islam and jews
Post by Foolosophy on Mar 19^th, 2011 at 10:54pm

..Yadda concern for justice and democracy is laughable

Why do you pretend to be Non-Jewish?

What is your pupose here? Apart from spreading lies and race based hatred

Dont you believe Gideon Levy?

Title: Re: islam and jews
Post by Yadda on Mar 19^th, 2011 at 11:10pm

Foolosophy wrote on Mar 19^th, 2011 at 10:54pm:

..Yadda concern for justice and democracy is laughable

Why do you pretend to be Non-Jewish?

It is not a pretence.

I am not Jewish, and i have no knowledge of any Jewish heritage in my family.

But in your world,
BLACK IS WHITE.
WHITE IS BLACK.
UP IS DOWN.
DOWN IS UP.

This world is full of it.
Deception, lies, wickedness, everywhere our eye may fall.
And, there is no repentance, for our wickedness.

I am surprised, your heart is so, so, cold.
But i can see now, that it is.

Foolosophy wrote on Mar 19^th, 2011 at 10:54pm:

What is your pupose here? Apart from spreading lies and race based hatred

My purpose here?

To counter the lies of people like yourself.

To expose the truth about ISLAM, to naive Australians.

Foolosophy wrote on Mar 19^th, 2011 at 10:54pm:

Dont you believe Gideon Levy?

Who ?

Title: Re: islam and jews
Post by Baronvonrort on Apr 6^th, 2011 at 4:36pm

The conflict between Islam and the Jews goes back to the days of Mohammad.

Mohammad was a thief, a highway robber who would steal from the trade caravans that passed between Syria and Mecca thats how he financed the Ummah when he was in Medina.
Mohammad never had a problem with stealing from non muslims he condoned it as long as his followers gave him 20% of all booty.

Mohammad tried to steal the Jewish religion,he told them he was their new prophet and they would have to make changes to their holy books.

Mohammad certainly hoped the jews would accept him as a prophet.He believed he brought the same basic message as the Old Testament prophets-strict monotheism.He did many things to win them over such as fasting on Yom Kippur,the jewish day of atonement,facing jerusalem in prayer,compusory circumcision,following many dietry and clothing customs of the jews.The Quran is full of stories of the OT prophets.

But when the vast majority of jews refused to accept him as a prophet he turned against them when in power in Medina,accusing them of treachery and killing many and evicting the rest.
The Sira of Ibn Hisham covers this amongst other books.

The genocide of the Jews known as the Banu Qurayza saw 900 jews massacred by muslims in 1 day
www.wikiislam.net/wiki/The_Genocide_of_Banu_Qurayza

More on Islamic antisemitism here take note of the verses where trees and rocks get vocal chords and speak up that a jew is hiding behind them calling for a muslim to kill the jew.
www.wikiislam.net/wiki/Islamic_Antisemitism

Title: Re: islam and jews
Post by Yadda on Apr 7^th, 2011 at 11:39am

Baronvonrort wrote on Apr 6^th, 2011 at 4:36pm:

What you said above Baron....
....it is exactly so.

And the world of men, have chosen to give the violence of ISLAM a 'pass', because the world of men, is wicked.

And God will judge the wickedness of men.

And God will redeem his people.

Title: Re: islam and jews
Post by Baronvonrort on Apr 29^th, 2011 at 5:29pm

img704.imageshack.us/img704/9834/potential.jpg

I video of a Palestinian saying they use human shields along with dealing in death.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWIDZ7Jpdqg

Title: Re: islam and jews
Post by Foolosophy on Apr 29^th, 2011 at 7:08pm

Title: Re: islam and jews
Post by Soren on Apr 29^th, 2011 at 8:06pm

Before he converted.

Title: Re: islam and jews
Post by Foolosophy on Apr 29^th, 2011 at 8:17pm

Burning their own flag

the horror

Title: Re: islam and jews
Post by Soren on Jun 1^st, 2011 at 1:01pm

Pat Condell nails it again.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eIesXORjBps

Title: Re: islam and jews
Post by Karnal on Jun 1^st, 2011 at 1:33pm

Yadda wrote on Mar 19^th, 2011 at 11:10pm:

I am surprised, your heart is so, so, cold.
But i can see now, that it is.

Effende - you do not know me!