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Member Run Boards >> Spirituality >> Does God treat different people differently ? http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1300677736 Message started by Sprintcyclist on Mar 21st, 2011 at 1:22pm |
Title: Does God treat different people differently ? Post by Sprintcyclist on Mar 21st, 2011 at 1:22pm It seems so. Quote:
Deuteronomy 23:3 |
Title: Re: Does God treat different people differently ? Post by Karnal on Mar 21st, 2011 at 1:49pm Sprintcyclist wrote on Mar 21st, 2011 at 1:22pm:
The RSL used to be the same. Now they let anyone in. |
Title: Re: Does God treat different people differently ? Post by muso on Mar 21st, 2011 at 4:24pm
Who wants these fossils in the assembly of the lord anyway?
Not even in the tenth generation? I wonder where the ammonites are now? Probably Amman, Jordan I guess, but the original ammonites probably migrated to New Zealand or something. |
Title: Re: Does God treat different people differently ? Post by Lisa on Mar 21st, 2011 at 4:41pm
Muso et al ..
Sprint is posting extremist rubbish and trying to preach non biblical based BS! I have nothing but pity for the fool these days. He has totally lost the plot! If anything I'm concerned for his mental well being right now. |
Title: Re: Does God treat different people differently ? Post by Lisa on Mar 21st, 2011 at 4:45pm
This isn't SPIRITUALITY anymore .. it's SPRINTUALITY.
There is NOTHING spiritual about harnessing haphazard Biblical passages in order to present a confused non-sensical message which subverts the core principles of the Bible. If anything .. it is insulting and disgusting to the Bible and to myself as a Christian Ok .. Muso et al .. I'm off to discuss a few decent topics in the Relationships forum. The Moderator there happens to be decent and sane. See ya! |
Title: Re: Does God treat different people differently ? Post by Sprintcyclist on Mar 22nd, 2011 at 12:24am shut the door behind you as you leave thanks lisa. you won't be missed |
Title: Re: Does God treat different people differently ? Post by mantra on Mar 22nd, 2011 at 6:31am Lisa Jones wrote on Mar 21st, 2011 at 4:45pm:
Proverbs 20:3 It is to a man's honor to avoid strife, but every fool is quick to quarrel Proverbs 30:33 For as churning the milk produces butter, and as twisting the nose produces blood, so stirring up anger produces strif Ecclesiastes 7:9 Do not be quickly provoked in your spirit, for anger resides in the lap of fools. Matthew 5:22 But I tell you that anyone who is angry with his brother will be subject to judgment. Again, anyone who says to his brother, 'Raca' is answerable to the Sanhedrin. But anyone who says, 'You fool!' will be in danger of the fire of hell. Proverbs 21:19 Better to live in a desert than with a quarrelsome and ill-tempered wife. |
Title: Re: Does God treat different people differently ? Post by ash on Mar 22nd, 2011 at 7:48am
nicely done mantra :)
from what ive seen in the short time ive been comming here, it is little wonder lisa lost, or was stripped of her modship. whichever, its extremely evident why. |
Title: Re: Does God treat different people differently ? Post by muso on Mar 22nd, 2011 at 8:32am Lisa Jones wrote on Mar 21st, 2011 at 4:41pm:
Here it is: http://theplot.com.au/ ;) |
Title: Re: Does God treat different people differently ? Post by mantra on Mar 22nd, 2011 at 10:07am ash wrote on Mar 22nd, 2011 at 7:48am:
Yes - the power went to her head and she behaved like the devil instead. She can be very abusive if her views are opposed. I'm assuming Sprintcyclist tolerates her posting on this forum because he's always striving to be a good Christian and is setting an example in forgiveness. :) |
Title: Re: Does God treat different people differently ? Post by Lisa on Mar 22nd, 2011 at 12:40pm muso wrote on Mar 22nd, 2011 at 8:32am:
Ha ha! Good one Muso! Have you been reading all his latest BS though? It gives you some idea about what I was putting up with behind the scenes. .. and his BS just gets better and better lmao :) |
Title: Re: Does God treat different people differently ? Post by mantra on Mar 22nd, 2011 at 12:53pm Lisa Jones wrote on Mar 22nd, 2011 at 12:40pm:
This is disgusting. Why do the moderators here tolerate Lisa? She's vicious, a religious zealot and thrives on hate. She makes different members feel as though they have no right to post anywhere. |
Title: Re: Does God treat different people differently ? Post by Sprintcyclist on Mar 22nd, 2011 at 1:25pm
well, that's pretty right mantra.
lisa does vicously repel anyone who has a non-lisa thought. It is a pity when other spiritual people feel disinclined to post here due to one persons comments. My belief in the freedom of speech completely allows comments I disagree with. In fact, it almost invites it. As with anyone here you dislike, just ignore them. |
Title: Re: Does God treat different people differently ? Post by Lisa on Mar 22nd, 2011 at 10:10pm
IF ONLY MANTRA WOULD IGNORE ME FFS I'VE ONLY BEEN ASKING THIS FOR OVER ONE MONTH NOW!
Instead .. she chooses to bait/troll and abuse at every turn and when ignored she ups her BS by resorting to including innocent family members of posters in her tirades. Typical passive - aggressive stunts like that get reported around unfortunately. I've got her on ignore on PA (coz we have a blessed ignore button there). Apparently I've been told by a few peeps there that she has spent the better part of today posting to me/about me on PA lmao. And I've not seen or read anything she has posted thanks to the ignore button. Ah well at least Mellie is there .. every ready to listen to her rants .. and on here it's Sprint. No one else really cares or reads the endless childish and immature trollish rubbish she has to offer. Back to the topic .. |
Title: Re: Does God treat different people differently ? Post by mantra on Mar 22nd, 2011 at 10:24pm Lisa Jones wrote on Mar 22nd, 2011 at 10:10pm:
You haven't posted on this forum since Sprintcyclist gave you the boot, but the moment I start posting here - you're back here trying to control this forum again. You've taken over most of the other member run boards which I'm avoiding like the plague - so go to one of the other forums to post. You've even stalked me over to PA and registered there. I had the freedom to post anywhere I wanted on this forum until recently - so what suddenly gives you the right to tell me where I can and can't post and call me names? How dare you call yourself a Christian? You shame those who are true Christians. If you have a financial interest in this place and are a part owner - then I'll go - but until you give a good reason as to why you believe you have control over these boards - I'll post when and where I want. |
Title: Re: Does God treat different people differently ? Post by Foolosophy on Mar 22nd, 2011 at 10:48pm
Lisa,
Please tell me it isnt true what mantra is saying about you. Are you really a psuedo Quasi-fascist-Christian? Or does mantra have a crush on you and cant get into your womanhood regions? I would be very dissapointed should you trun out to be a wolveriness in disguise Best Wishes Foolosophy |
Title: Re: Does God treat different people differently ? Post by Lisa on Mar 22nd, 2011 at 10:49pm
Huh? What are you on about Foolosophy?
Mantra is some passive-aggressive idiot who rants and raves 24/7 on 2 forums and who I have on ignore along with Mellie .. another online troll who I have on ignore on the same 2 forums. If I were you .. I'd do what most of the other posters are doing .. ie ignoring both these idiots and posting over them. It may give them a clue. If you choose to post to them .. it's best to make fun of them apparently. This is what I've been advised in any event. |
Title: Re: Does God treat different people differently ? Post by Soren on Mar 22nd, 2011 at 11:00pm Foolosophy wrote on Mar 22nd, 2011 at 10:48pm:
Well, Moronosophy's a guy whom god obviously treated cruelly differently. |
Title: Re: Does God treat different people differently ? Post by Foolosophy on Mar 22nd, 2011 at 11:43pm Lisa Jones wrote on Mar 22nd, 2011 at 10:49pm:
As a Christian you have a collective duty as well as a duty your very inner being to show compassion towards people. To have an open compassionate heart. Even I know that and I am not even a Christian. I suggest that you publically offer a sincere apology to mantra and compensate him in a meaningful way |
Title: Re: Does God treat different people differently ? Post by Lisa on Mar 23rd, 2011 at 12:08am Soren wrote on Mar 22nd, 2011 at 11:00pm:
LMAO! There goes my tea .. all over my keyboard again! Bugger! |
Title: Re: Does God treat different people differently ? Post by Lisa on Mar 23rd, 2011 at 12:15am Foolosophy wrote on Mar 22nd, 2011 at 11:43pm:
Wait a sec .. how come you're even getting involved in all this .. given you know nothing about the situation? I can tell you here and now .. I've got a lot of compassion and time for people .. but when it comes to idiots I don't. And I treat all idiots equally. I'm very fair that way lol :) |
Title: Re: Does God treat different people differently ? Post by Foolosophy on Mar 23rd, 2011 at 12:28am Lisa Jones wrote on Mar 23rd, 2011 at 12:15am:
Jesus blesses all - that is the point of Christianity Jesus loves you as much as the devil thats what love is - pure and uncompromising It is left to people to corrupt love - hence the mess we have in the world today (this is not to say that there is no suffering - I carry both my love and pain on my shoulders - like the ancient Greeks described during their great enlightened Hellenic epoch) Amen |
Title: Re: Does God treat different people differently ? Post by Lisa on Mar 23rd, 2011 at 12:40am
Jesus blesses all - that is the point of Christianity
Jesus loves you as much as the devil - Foolosophy Huh? I've never heard any of that before. Did you just make all that up? |
Title: Re: Does God treat different people differently ? Post by Foolosophy on Mar 23rd, 2011 at 12:45am Lisa Jones wrote on Mar 23rd, 2011 at 12:40am:
Yes I am a student of foolishness who was it that said that "the wisdom of a fool is profound"? I think it may have been me (although I think that if Jesus is who he says he is, then he would forgive the devil - that is the point isnt it? the question then remains what is you excuse for abandoning this fundamental Christian ethical pillar?) |
Title: Re: Does God treat different people differently ? Post by jackflash on Mar 23rd, 2011 at 5:54am
Lisa, Mantra and Fools........
Three bitches in a dog fight. May the best dog win. |
Title: Re: Does God treat different people differently ? Post by Sprintcyclist on Mar 23rd, 2011 at 8:13am back directly to the topic : from this quote, it seems he does. Noone replied to it. Sprintcyclist wrote on Mar 21st, 2011 at 1:22pm:
What about these people, did jacob treat them differently ?? Quote:
genesis 49:28 he gave them blessings appropriate to him. he did not bless them all the same. it seems god treated jews differently to other peoples too. It'ld be nice if you stuck to the topic, or started your own topic. off topic comments are deletable in my books. |
Title: Re: Does God treat different people differently ? Post by Foolosophy on Mar 23rd, 2011 at 9:57am Sprintcyclist wrote on Mar 23rd, 2011 at 8:13am:
genesis 49:28 he gave them blessings appropriate to him. he did not bless them all the same. it seems god treated jews differently to other peoples too. It'ld be nice if you stuck to the topic, or started your own topic. off topic comments are deletable in my books. [/quote] You mean the Judaic God - the Chosen people phrase is a self professed statement that implies God is a racist or has discriminating love. I wouldnt be paying too much attention to that. Almost every other religious dogma tells the same tale. The barbaric immorality depicted in the Old Testament is hardly a sound ethical foundation from which to construct communities and family living. I suppose this why Jesus rejected Jedaism and the bulk of the Old Testament ethical and moral base. Christianity is just that - a rejection of Judaism. It is why the Jews until this very day reject Jesus CHrist and his Christian teachings. There is nothing wrong with rejecting CHristianity or any other faith for that matter. But let us not parade around the world claiming some sort of moral coupling of the Judeo-Christian faith and bind the Old Testament and the Gospels together in one book. Remember, in Israel right this very moment, the Orthodox Jews burn copies of the Gospels in city streets, Why is this the case? |
Title: Re: Does God treat different people differently ? Post by Yadda on Mar 23rd, 2011 at 12:14pm Sprintcyclist wrote on Mar 23rd, 2011 at 8:13am:
True, because the Hebrew people were in-covenant with God. But God did not treat the Hebrew people differently, to other peoples, because they were 'better' or inherently 'special'. Study your Bible sprint; SEPARATED FROM OTHER PEOPLE - But not for thy righteousness, or because they were inherently 'special'; Deuteronomy 9:4 Speak not thou in thine heart, after that the LORD thy God hath cast them out from before thee, saying, For my righteousness the LORD hath brought me in to possess this land: but for the wickedness of these nations the LORD doth drive them out from before thee. 5 Not for thy righteousness, or for the uprightness of thine heart, dost thou go to possess their land: but for the wickedness of these nations the LORD thy God doth drive them out from before thee, and that he may perform the word which the LORD sware unto thy fathers, Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. 6 Understand therefore, that the LORD thy God giveth thee not this good land to possess it for thy righteousness; for thou art a stiffnecked people. Leviticus 18:24 Defile not ye yourselves in any of these things: for in all these the nations are defiled which I cast out before you: 25 And the land is defiled: therefore I do visit the iniquity thereof upon it, and the land itself vomiteth out her inhabitants. 26 Ye shall therefore keep my statutes and my judgments, and shall not commit any of these abominations; neither any of your own nation, nor any stranger that sojourneth among you: 27 (For all these abominations have the men of the land done, which were before you, and the land is defiled;) 28 That the land spue not you out also, when ye defile it, as it spued out the nations that were before you. 29 For whosoever shall commit any of these abominations, even the souls that commit them shall be cut off from among their people. 30 Therefore shall ye keep mine ordinance, that ye commit not any one of these abominable customs, which were committed before you, and that ye defile not yourselves therein: I am the LORD your God. Leviticus 20:22 Ye shall therefore keep all my statutes, and all my judgments, and do them: that the land, whither I bring you to dwell therein, spue you not out. 23 And ye shall not walk in the manners of the nation, which I cast out before you: for they committed all these things, and therefore I abhorred them. 24 But I have said unto you, Ye shall inherit their land, and I will give it unto you to possess it, a land that floweth with milk and honey: I am the LORD your God, which have separated you from other people. "I am the LORD your God, which have separated you from other people." So as to be a holy EXAMPLE to others. But the Hebrew people failed to keep their covenant with God. The Bible is a witness against the Hebrew people [and the Jewish people], that their conduct before their God, proved that the Hebrew people were just a corruptible as the heathen nations. SEPARATED FROM OTHER PEOPLE - And thou shalt become an astonishment, a proverb, and a byword Leviticus 26:32 And I will bring the land into desolation: and your enemies which dwell therein shall be astonished at it. 33 And I will scatter you among the heathen, and will draw out a sword after you: and your land shall be desolate, and your cities waste. Deuteronomy 28:37 And thou shalt become an astonishment, a proverb, and a byword, among all nations whither the LORD shall lead thee. 1 Kings 9:6 But if ye shall at all turn from following me, ye or your children, and will not keep my commandments and my statutes which I have set before you, but go and serve other gods, and worship them: 7 Then will I cut off Israel out of the land which I have given them; and this house, which I have hallowed for my name, will I cast out of my sight; and Israel shall be a proverb and a byword among all people: 8 And at this house, which is high, every one that passeth by it shall be astonished, and shall hiss; and they shall say, Why hath the LORD done thus unto this land, and to this house? 9 And they shall answer, Because they forsook the LORD their God, who brought forth their fathers out of the land of Egypt, and have taken hold upon other gods, and have worshipped them, and served them: therefore hath the LORD brought upon them all this evil. Jeremiah 18:15 Because my people hath forgotten me, they have burned incense to vanity, and they have caused them to stumble in their ways from the ancient paths, to walk in paths, in a way not cast up; 16 To make their land desolate, and a perpetual hissing; every one that passeth thereby shall be astonished, and wag his head. 17 I will scatter them as with an east wind before the enemy; I will shew them the back, and not the face, in the day of their calamity. |
Title: Re: Does God treat different people differently ? Post by Yadda on Mar 23rd, 2011 at 12:31pm Foolosophy wrote on Mar 23rd, 2011 at 9:57am:
Foolosophy, You should attach a declaration with each of your posts; "Hi, my nick is Foolosophy. And i clearly do not know what i am talking about. So just ignore this post." The gospels describe Jesus as a Torah teacher. e.g. Mark 7:6 He answered and said unto them, Well hath Esaias prophesied of you hypocrites, as it is written, This people honoureth me with their lips, but their heart is far from me. 7 Howbeit in vain do they worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men. 8 For laying aside the commandment of God, ye hold the tradition of men, as the washing of pots and cups: and many other such like things ye do. 9 And he said unto them, Full well ye reject the commandment of God, that ye may keep your own tradition. Matthew 5:17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: "Why do thy disciples transgress the tradition of the elders?... But [Jesus] answered and said unto them, Why do ye...transgress the commandment of God by your tradition?" Matthew 15:1-9 Matthew 22:36 Master, which is the great commandment in the law? 37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. [i.e. Deut 6:5] The man Jesus was Torah observant, and a Torah teacher. Do any people today, qualify as a followers of Jesus? John 14:15 If ye love me, keep my commandments. Matthew 19:17 .... if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments. 18 He saith unto him, Which? Jesus said, Thou shalt do no murder, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, 19 Honour thy father and thy mother: and, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. All cited, from OT law, the law of Moses. |
Title: Re: Does God treat different people differently ? Post by Sprintcyclist on Mar 23rd, 2011 at 9:23pm all offthread comments posted since my warning have been removed. offthread comments render any chatroom inoperable and meaningless |
Title: Re: Does God treat different people differently ? Post by Sprintcyclist on Mar 23rd, 2011 at 9:27pm good comments foolosophy. yadda - it matters not if god had a reason to treat one group of people differently to another. questioin is, did he treat people differently or not. you have said "Yes he did.", then justified it. "No Ammonite or Moabite or any of their descendants may enter the assembly of the LORD, not even in the tenth generation " Deuteronomy 23:3 also treating one tribe/group of people differently to others. |
Title: Re: Does God treat different people differently ? Post by helian on Mar 23rd, 2011 at 9:29pm
Generally, I think god hates everyone equally... But I'm pretty sure he's got it in more for the Dutch.... Or is it the French?
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Title: Re: Does God treat different people differently ? Post by Lisa on Mar 23rd, 2011 at 9:30pm NorthOfNorth wrote on Mar 23rd, 2011 at 9:29pm:
Could be the Germans actually .. given they keep having to pay for all the wars we have. |
Title: Re: Does God treat different people differently ? Post by helian on Mar 23rd, 2011 at 9:39pm Lisa Jones wrote on Mar 23rd, 2011 at 9:30pm:
Yeah, but the krauts signed that pact with the devil (The great Satanic convention of 1783, I think it was), so you can't really blame the deity for hating krauts. |
Title: Re: Does God treat different people differently ? Post by Lisa on Mar 23rd, 2011 at 9:41pm NorthOfNorth wrote on Mar 23rd, 2011 at 9:39pm:
Yeah true. I forgot about that. Still wondering about this notion of God being an Anti Aryan atm ... |
Title: Re: Does God treat different people differently ? Post by helian on Mar 23rd, 2011 at 9:53pm Lisa Jones wrote on Mar 23rd, 2011 at 9:41pm:
Can you blame him? Poor old front bottom... How much can an omni-benevolent world maker take? |
Title: Re: Does God treat different people differently ? Post by Foolosophy on Mar 23rd, 2011 at 10:16pm Sprintcyclist wrote on Mar 23rd, 2011 at 9:27pm:
ONE very big assumption is made here, that the nature of GOD in found in the biblical scriptures I suspect that if a GOD really does exist then his or her or its nature would have absolutely NOTHING to do with anything HUMANS write down or think. By definition anything we attempt to describe or encapsulate is a corrupt iconical approximation at best - including this very post So ignore everything I have said or will say in the future Amen (Foolosophy 46:5) |
Title: Re: Does God treat different people differently ? Post by Sprintcyclist on Mar 23rd, 2011 at 10:43pm And one more offtopic comment deleted. it matters not that it was an ad hominem fallacy. It was offtopic. |
Title: Re: Does God treat different people differently ? Post by Sprintcyclist on Mar 24th, 2011 at 12:13pm keep the offtopic comments coming, i'll keep deleting them. |
Title: Re: Does God treat different people differently ? Post by Sprintcyclist on Mar 24th, 2011 at 1:29pm Still offtopic |
Title: Re: Does God treat different people differently ? Post by Lisa on Apr 4th, 2011 at 1:09am
And thus the topic descended into nothingness...
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Title: Re: Does God treat different people differently ? Post by Sappho on Apr 4th, 2011 at 1:26am Lisa Jones wrote on Apr 4th, 2011 at 1:09am:
Well instead of doing nothing aside from stating the bleeding obvious... try doing something for a change... like help to bring the subject back on topic... sheesh. Yes god treated different people differently and I believe a part of that reason is His recognition of other gods to which different people are beholden. From the commandments themselves... God said, "Do not have any other gods before me." This is an acknowledgement that other gods exist, but that He is first amongst them, when it comes to the people of the covenant. |
Title: Re: Does God treat different people differently ? Post by Sappho on Apr 4th, 2011 at 1:27am
double post
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Title: Re: Does God treat different people differently ? Post by Lisa on Apr 4th, 2011 at 1:31am
Sappho .. God is sexist and racist. Why? Coz Sprint says so.
End of story. As such I'm not bothered with idiots like him anymore .. I've got better people to post to. |
Title: Re: Does God treat different people differently ? Post by Lisa on Apr 4th, 2011 at 1:32am
Hey BTW Sappho .. I've been wondering where you've been lately. Hope everything is ok with you and yours.
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Title: Re: Does God treat different people differently ? Post by Sappho on Apr 4th, 2011 at 1:47am Lisa Jones wrote on Apr 4th, 2011 at 1:31am:
LIAR LIAR pants are on fire... If you couldn't be bothered and have better people to post to... why are you here disrupting this thread and my attempt to bring it back on topic? Vindictiveness per chance? meanwhile back on topic... Deuteronomy 6:14-15 Ye shall not go after other gods, of the gods of the people which are round about you;(For the LORD thy God is a jealous God among you) Deuteronomy 10:17 For the LORD your God is God of gods, and Lord of lords. So, clearly, God treated different people differently because they had different gods. |
Title: Re: Does God treat different people differently ? Post by Sprintcyclist on Apr 4th, 2011 at 1:17pm more off-topic comments deleted |
Title: Re: Does God treat different people differently ? Post by Foolosophy on Apr 4th, 2011 at 1:54pm
....GOD is sexist and racist because the various scriptures floating around that claim are a true reflection of what or who GOD is, are written by Males.
Remember, GOD has nothing to do with anything MAN writes down or says. |
Title: Re: Does God treat different people differently ? Post by mozzaok on Apr 4th, 2011 at 1:59pm |
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