61 arrested over Paris Muslim veil protest By Jamey Keaten in Paris From: AP April 10, 2011 8:15AM

POLICE have arrested 61 people - including 19 women - for attempting to hold an outlawed Paris protest against France's pending ban on face-covering Islamic veils.
Fifty-nine people were detained while trying to demonstrate at Place de la Nation in eastern Paris, as were two others while travelling there from Britain and Belgium, said Nicolas Lerner, chief of staff for the Paris police chief.

The arrests come amid in a rising, if small, groundswell of controversy over Monday's start of an official ban of garments that hide the face, which includes Muslim veils such as the slit-eyed niqab and the full face-covering burqa. Women who disobey the law risk a fine, special classes and a police record.

The demonstrators rallied in defiance of a ban of the protest ordered on Friday by Paris police on the ground that a Muslim group's call for the rally was "clearly an incitement to violence and racial hatred," said Mr Lerner.

"The demonstration was not banned because of the practice (among some Muslim women) of wearing veils, but because of the speech," he said, adding that Jewish groups and others had planned counter-protests - raising the prospect of public disorder.

Most of the would-be protesters were released after being taken to police stations, though six remained in custody - mostly on suspicion of being in France illegally, Mr Lerner said.

The two would-be protesters who had tried to arrive from Britain and Belgium were known to French authorities.

Police were under existing orders to stop and expel them, if they tried to reach France, Mr Lerner said.

Mr Lerner identified the man who had travelled from Britain as Anjem Choudary, the head of Islam4UK until it was banned earlier this year by Britain's government for glorifying al-Qaeda. Several people associated with the group have been linked to terrorist acts.

The protest was called by a group known as Unicite Tawhib, which has been linked to internet sites that call for Islam to dominate France and the world, Mr Lerner said.

Secular France has been in the throes of a debate about the role of religion in its society. Many Muslims have felt stigmatised by a 2004 law that banned Islamic headscarves in classrooms and during the intense debate that preceded the adoption of the face-veil ban last year.

The measure forbids women to hide their faces in public places, even in the streets. Violators could face a fine of 150 euro ($205) or a citizenship course - or both. Anyone found forcing a woman to cover her face risks a year in prison and a 30,000 euro ($41,085) fine, and possibly twice that if the veiled person is a minor.

Authorities estimate at most 2,000 women in France wear the outlawed veils. France's Muslims number at least 5 million, the largest such population in western Europe.

Congratulations to the French authorities, I hope they stick to thier decision. For those that wish to hide from legitimate scrutiny in public there are plenty of other places that will acommodate you. Why not go there?

If someone wants to cover themselves totally, wander around completely naked, dress as a clown or wookie or everything in  between, it is their choice and has nothing to do with anyone else.
I do wonder about people who obsess about what others do or not wear in public.

I think it would be a really cool protest to wear the burqa and nothing else. That way you could upset both sides.

freediver wrote on Apr 10^th, 2011 at 4:26pm:

I think it would be a really cool protest to wear the burqa and nothing else. That way you could upset both sides.

Methinks that FD, would make an excellent 'agent provocateur'.       ;)        ;D


FD, isn't the 'omnipotent one' on OzPol,
....he's just a very naughty boy.

freediver wrote on Apr 10^th, 2011 at 4:26pm:

I think it would be a really cool protest to wear the burqa and nothing else. That way you could upset both sides.

I am wearing an invisible burqa every day.

Soren wrote on Apr 11^th, 2011 at 9:35am:

freediver wrote on Apr 10th, 2011 at 4:26pm: I think it would be a really cool protest to wear the burqa and nothing else. That way you could upset both sides. I am wearing an invisible burqa every day.

lol.. what colour is it today??..lol

like the king and his new clothes..we are all very vane arent we..what makes us think anyone is looking at us in particular??..

I think I might step out in my invisible ensemble this morning... it save ironing the blasted thing..

The failure of integrating a large number of Aborigines into the modern liberal democratic society indicates the difficulties of integrating unilling, even hostile, Muslims.
http://www.quadrant.org.au/magazine/issue/2011/3/glimpses-of-reprimitivisation

Policies aimed at integrating Aborigines into the general community or equipping them to survive in the modern world have been damned as being, among other things, “assimilationism”, like some kind of totalitarian ideology. Andrew Bolt remarked of Manne’s enthusiasm:

How could our top intellectual so praise a society in which the strong ruled the weak, infanticide was common, death-rates by warfare horrific, life expectancy low and bashing of women—as measured by the fractured skulls since found—astonishingly high.

It was reported in 2006 that, following a clash at one Aboriginal reserve in which twelve people were killed, the severed head of one woman was dragged through the township by a dog.

This occurred in a wealthy, stable and humane parliamentary democracy, some of whose elites had become infatuated with primitivism and reprimitivisation.

Politically correct theories of education have meant whole generations of children damaged, probably irreparably, by drugs and sexual abuse, and far less able to survive in either the white or tribal worlds than were their parents. Indeed it seems some white Anglophone educationists and bureaucrats, immersed in cultural self-hatred, have deliberately deprived these children of the opportunity to learn English and mathematics, while being unable to impart to them the ability to track elusive animals or locate water-holes.




Similarly, these very same PC educationalists and bien pensant are supremely reluctant to educate immigrants about the positive and necessary cultural element of the host country. Instead, they praise and protect and pander to the most primitive elements of the immigrant cultures.

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Similarly, these very same PC educationalists and bien pensant are supremely reluctant to educate immigrants about the positive and necessary cultural element of the host country.

And what would that be Soren? Meat pies again? You discount things like freedom and democracy, but are supremely reluctant to put anything in their place. How can you expect immigration to educate people if you can't even bring yourself to explain it?

freediver wrote on Apr 10^th, 2011 at 4:26pm:

I think it would be a really cool protest to wear the burqa and nothing else. That way you could upset both sides.

Something like this?

Image of a woman with a sheer veil on her face, but otherwise laying naked, with her buttocks exposed. image deleted by mozzaok (the spoilsport, it was quite sexy, but we do not do nudie pics here, even ones I like ;)
or even this

Another image of a woman wearing a burqa, but with her holding it wide open to expose her breasts, and panties, and knee high boots. Again, not an image I personally mind, but we do not do nudie pics here, so ala, it is gone. mozzaok
What about this one

http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/6167/29595304.jpg

This one just sneaks in, because it passes the no nudie bits guidelines, and it does illustrate the point that the poster was making. mozzaok
You can google to see the images I deleted if you wish, I think nude, and burqa would probably find you a site which has them, if you are really interested in viewing them. mozzaok

adelcrow wrote on Apr 10^th, 2011 at 4:17pm:

If someone wants to cover themselves totally, wander around completely naked, dress as a clown or wookie or everything in  between, it is their choice and has nothing to do with anyone else. I do wonder about people who obsess about what others do or not wear in public.

hey then why the complaints about Abbott in his speedos?????????????.

and you a lefty.

Baronvonrort wrote on Apr 22^nd, 2011 at 2:59pm:

freediver wrote on Apr 10th, 2011 at 4:26pm: I think it would be a really cool protest to wear the burqa and nothing else. That way you could upset both sides. Something like this? http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/6194/36018395.jpg or even this http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/2569/41653226.jpg What about this one http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/6167/29595304.jpg

baron you are a naughty boy I almost sure no one was thinking along those lines..tsk tsk.

Well..I do find Abbott in speedos quite offensive espesially when he has people in his own party (Cory Bernardi) calling for a Burqa ban.
On the other hand I am happy to support the mandatory wearing of Burqa's in public for all pollies   :D

I never thought about the burka as per those photos.
That's it, I'm converting to islam!

when in rome, do as the romans do.
if they don't wear veils, then don't wear veils.
muslims - the world over - either do the current "right thing" or go back home.
NO country on earth wants ppl in there that are, basically, subverting the law.
there's something wrong when ppl have to move OUT OF THEIR OWN PLACE, anyway.
thank you.
j.

BUT, if this happens in Australia, i'll be the first to Extremely stupid, and offensive comment removed by mozzaok. this poster will also be copping a 24 hour ban for his troubles.
btw, your food sucks balls, but your music ain't that bad.
pity the arabs in aussie are just too dumb to know that.

bogarde73 wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2011 at 2:18pm:

I never thought about the burka as per those photos. That's it, I'm converting to islam!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5e1hos8_HhM