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The Coming Is Upon Us - a Shia end times theology film



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The Coming Is Upon Us is significant for several reasons:   1. The film provides the most recent and up-to-date description of the beliefs held by Shia Muslims known as “Twelvers” that the so-called Islamic messiah known as the “Twelfth Imam” or the “Mahdi” will soon appear on Earth to usher in or oversee the destruction of Israel, the establishment of an Islamic caliphate (kingdom), and the End of Days.   2. The film explains why Shia leaders see the recent wars, revolutions and uprisings in Iraq, Egypt, Libya, Saudi Arabia, Yemen and elsewhere throughout the Middle East and North Africa as prophetic signs consistent with Islamic End Times teachings, and further proof that the Twelfth Imam is coming soon.   3. The film identifies for the first time that Iran’s Ayatollah Ali Khamenei and President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad are specific End Times figures foretold in Shia Islamic prophecies.   4. The film has been screened and approved at the highest levels of Iranian government, indicating that Khamenei and Ahmadinejad approve of their depiction as End Times figures and believe their eschatology is being vindicated by current events in the Middle East. If this is accurate, it would provide further explanation as to why Iran’s top leaders feel emboldened to resist honest negotiations with the West and are determined to continue developing nuclear weapons and long-range ballistic missiles, both of which directly threaten Israel, America and Western allies and interests.   5. The film has been screened throughout Iran for military officers and soldiers as well as for paramilitary units. This, too, suggests that Iran’s leaders are trying to prepare their forces for a steadily approaching apocalyptic, genocidal war against Israel, the United States and the West and to encourage them not to fear because, in their view, Shia Muslims are on the winning side of history.   6. The film is being translated from Farsi (the language of Iran) to Arabic, suggesting that it will soon be shown and distributed throughout the broader Middle East and North Africa to prepare other Muslims — Sunni and Shia – to join Iran in a genocidal war with Israel and the West.

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This will be 'the 2nd coming', of 'the Mahdi' !      :o








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Because the Jews [Israelis] keep oppressing and killing moslems, don't ya know,
local moslems surrounding Israel, are going to eradicate the Zionist regime.

Moslems predict it, incessantly.

They have done, since 1948 !!     ;D

And devout moslems unceasingly insist that a bloodbath will occur, soon - at their hands.




Listen to President Ahmadinejad, here...
YOUTUBE
"Farewell Israel"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-IwwfeLp4M


The words from the lips of Iranian President Ahmadinejad are...

"The ocean of rage of the people of the region will surge and eradicate the Zionist regime."



Watching this YOUTUBE clip, Ahmadinejad's intent seems very clear,
.....moslems are going 'TO WIPE ISRAEL OFF THE MAP'



Moslems like Ahmadinejad [clearly] never take the time to read the O.T.

Because for moslems reading 'corrupt' Jewish scripture is 'verbotten'.

e.g.
If you are caught with Jewish scriptures in Saudi Arabia, they, Allah's finest, will behead you.

Why so ???

Because ISLAM is renowned for its tolerance of other faiths.

As moslems are want to remind us of incessantly!

Because moslems have all the inspiration that they need, within their very own, 'inerrant' Koran.




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Isaiah 17:12
Woe to the multitude of many people, which make a noise like the noise of the seas; and to the rushing of nations, that make a rushing like the rushing of mighty waters!
13  The nations shall rush like the rushing of many waters: but God shall rebuke them, and they shall flee far off, and shall be chased as the chaff of the mountains before the wind, and like a rolling thing before the whirlwind.
14  And behold at eveningtide trouble; and before the morning he is not. This is the portion of them that spoil us, and the lot of them that rob us.


Isaiah 59:19
So shall they fear the name of the LORD from the west, and his glory from the rising of the sun. When the enemy shall come in like a flood, the Spirit of the LORD shall lift up a standard against him.
20  And the Redeemer shall come to Zion, and unto them that turn from transgression in Jacob, saith the LORD.
21  As for me, this is my covenant with them, saith the LORD; My spirit that is upon thee, and my words which I have put in thy mouth, shall not depart out of thy mouth, nor out of the mouth of thy seed, nor out of the mouth of thy seed's seed, saith the LORD, from henceforth and for ever.






Ezekiel 38:4
And I will turn thee back, and put hooks into thy jaws, and I will bring thee forth, and all thine army, horses and horsemen, all of them clothed with all sorts of armour, even a great company with bucklers and shields, all of them handling swords:
5  Persia, Ethiopia, and Libya with them; all of them with shield and helmet:
6  Gomer, and all his bands; the house of Togarmah of the north quarters, and all his bands: and many people with thee.


Is it significant, that the very 1st country mentioned, is Persia ???

Why not Syria ?

Excellent points, Yadda. Marvellous Biblical analysis and a good description of the Shia's role in the End Times.

I, for one, hope I will not be there to see it - although we will all be there for the Final Judgement, I'm sure.

They might want to have a shower then.  That come can be very sticky.

... wrote on Jun 10^th, 2011 at 5:03pm:

They might want to have a shower then.  That come can be very sticky.

I'm told it will. That sulphur can be very sticky, eh Yadda?

Satan doesn't let go easily, friend.

Karnal wrote on Jun 10^th, 2011 at 4:39pm:

Excellent points, Yadda. Marvellous Biblical analysis and a good description of the Shia's role in the End Times. I, for one, hope I will not be there to see it - although we will all be there for the Final Judgement, I'm sure.

Yes thank you karnal.
Yes, we can always rely upon karnal, for your frank and candid views in this forum.
/sarc off


Here is another www site some of you may be interested to view....


"Comparison of End Times Figures in Christianity and Islam, Part I"
"...the descriptions of Jesus (Muslims call Him Isa) in Islamic End Times expectations are not the same as the coming Jesus described in the Bible."
http://al-mahdi.atspace.com/compare.html

According to ISLAM, Jesus ['Isa'] will return to earth.
But as a Jihadist, as an 'enforcer' of ISLAM.
He will kill Christians [...for the crime of not converting to Mohammedanism].
Christians will be invited by 'Isa' to become moslems, but if they refuse, then they must die.
http://al-mahdi.atspace.com/isa.html

Of course, that is ISLAM's view of the end times.



Dictionary;
eschatology = = the part of theology concerned with death, judgement, and destiny.

Google;
muslim christian eschatology comparison

I'm not looking forward to that!

Although, can't we just convert when it happens?

I think it's quite pointless being pedantic about these things. Best to just do what we're told.

The Coming Is Upon Us...




Islamic Conquest
http://youtube.com/watch?v=Am_zq6Avk9o




Palestinian Eskimos and Israel's vanishing species
http://youtube.com/watch?v=3EDbWktHpMQ

Obviously these extremists haven't read the Bible too much - We Win!!

Next it is.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=WwiadYT-N9k

This is the actual film, approx 30 mins
Its more an open contract on the saudi king, it uses the 'appearance of the mahdi' as the payment

leon_the_14 wrote on Jul 5^th, 2011 at 3:52am:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=WwiadYT-N9k This is the actual film, approx 30 mins Its more an open contract on the saudi king, it uses the 'appearance of the mahdi' as the payment

I have not watched this YT.
....i am on dialup.



But, commenting on your description [re, an open contract on the saudi king].....

"Let us do evil, so that good may come."

And that is a basic theme, running thru all ISLAMIC doctrine.


i.e.
Men and women, all of us, in our hearts, know the difference between what is a good act, and what is an evil act.

But ISLAM seeks to redefine our understanding of good, and, evil.

ISLAM insists that all actions which are in line with ISLAM, are good.

But what is NOT in line with ISLAM, is evil.

And all moslems, choose, to justify their lives, in offering their unquestioning obedience ISLAM, and to doing what ISLAM requires of them.




Within ISLAM, all things within the ISLAMIC 'universe' are defined, according to what is permitted by ISLAM.


To a moslem, all things are permissible, if they are permitted by Sharia.


And ISLAM gives moral authority, to every moslem to act in this world.

To enslave or kill other people, if they reject ISLAM's authority over their lives.

And that is the reason why there is so much violence associated with moslems, AND WHY THERE ALWAYS WILL BE.

Because ISLAM is a philosophy which teaches moslems that violence against 'unbelievers' is 'halal' [permitted], that violence against 'unbelievers' is sanctified.



"....the death of those who are killed for the cause of God gives more impetus to the cause, which continues to thrive on their blood."
ISLAMIC scholar, Sayyid Qutb, and one of ISLAM's most influential thinkers.

Astroboy wrote on Jun 11^th, 2011 at 5:26pm:

Obviously these extremists haven't read the Bible too much - We Win!!

Who's we and what do you win?

You've read the Bible I gather. Really? I bet you haven't as if you had you would know the truth about religion. That is that religion is man made and none of them have a real God. There is no God you see.

So when you say "we win" you don't know what you are saying do you? It's actually all religions against those that know the truth. Islam and Christianity are on the same side in this God crap. They are both wrong.

But you win. WHAT? what do you win.

boogieman wrote on Jul 5^th, 2011 at 12:11pm:

Astroboy wrote on Jun 11th, 2011 at 5:26pm: Obviously these extremists haven't read the Bible too much - We Win!! Who's we and what do you win? You've read the Bible I gather. Really? I bet you haven't as if you had you would know the truth about religion. That is that religion is man made and none of them have a real God. There is no God you see. So when you say "we win" you don't know what you are saying do you? It's actually all religions against those that know the truth. Islam and Christianity are on the same side in this God crap. They are both wrong. But you win. WHAT? what do you win.

God is a spirit.

God can only be 'found', by those, who he reveals himself to.

God only reveals himself to those who know him.

How can a man know God ???

Guess.




God only reveals himself to those who love his righteousness.




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Jeremiah 29:13
And ye shall seek me, and find me, when ye shall search for me with all your heart.


Psalms 25:10
All the paths of the LORD are mercy and truth unto such as keep his covenant and his testimonies.
11  For thy name's sake, O LORD, pardon mine iniquity; for it is great.
12  What man is he that feareth the LORD? him shall he teach in the way that he shall choose.
13  His soul shall dwell at ease; and his seed shall inherit the earth.
14  The secret of the LORD is with them that fear him; and he will shew them his covenant.

You had me there - until I read your punchline. I had no idea you'd converted to Islam, Yadda.

God is revealled to those who listen. Carefully. For many, many years. Seek, and ye shall find.

The righteous are just that: listeners.

Anyway - what would I know? I know nothing, believe me.

Karnal wrote on Jul 5^th, 2011 at 9:18pm:

You had me there - until I read your punchline. I had no idea you'd converted to Islam, Yadda. God is revealled to those who listen. Carefully. For many, many years. Seek, and ye shall find. The righteous are just that: listeners. Anyway - what would I know? I know nothing, believe me.

We 'become', what we 'immerse' ourselves in Karnal.

We are influenced by our surroundings, and by those, whom we choose to surround ourselves with, always.

I believe that.





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Thoughts, express ideas [to our consciousness, to our 'psyche'].
The Bible is a book which is full of ideas and thoughts, which we should take the time to meditate upon, imo.
Reading scripture is, i believe, a form of spiritual invocation.
And imo, the words and thoughts expressed within scripture, express [to me] the mind of our God.
And, reading those words and thoughts, exposes me to that spirit, which i choose to be, and want to be influenced by.
i.e.
The spirit of God.
It is that simple.


Is there anybody who wants to know the mind [the spirit!], of God ?
Read the Psalms;
http://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/Psa/Psa001.html#top


OR, don't.



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1 Corinthians 2:14
But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

Yadda wrote on Jul 6^th, 2011 at 1:07pm:

Karnal wrote on Jul 5th, 2011 at 9:18pm: You had me there - until I read your punchline. I had no idea you'd converted to Islam, Yadda. God is revealled to those who listen. Carefully. For many, many years. Seek, and ye shall find. The righteous are just that: listeners. Anyway - what would I know? I know nothing, believe me. We 'become', what we 'immerse' ourselves in Karnal. We are influenced by our surroundings, and by those, whom we choose to surround ourselves with, always. I believe that.

Very true. I believe it too. The problem with righteousness is that it's a noun. You can't do righteousness.

But you can immerse. You can pray. You can listen. You can seek.

And if you're very lucky, you can find too.

I wish you much luck in your search, effende.

Karnal wrote on Jul 6^th, 2011 at 3:30pm:

...The problem with righteousness is that it's a noun. You can't do righteousness.

Yes Karnal, 'righteousness' is such a nebulous and hazy concept, which is so, so, difficult for men to understand.

It would better to just let men do whatever they please.

And for God to just be tolerant, and just forgive men, for whatever they do.

After all, men just don't understand what righteousness is.
/sarc off



That, certainly appears to be the desire [and wish!] of many men.



Dictionary;
licence  = =
1 a permit from an authority to own or use something, do a particular thing, or carry on a trade (especially in alcoholic liquor). Ø formal or official permission.
2 a writer’s or artist’s conventional freedom to deviate from facts or accepted rules.
3 freedom to behave without restraint.




But that, is not God's way.

Daniel 12:10
Isaiah 48:10
Revelation 21:7-8

Alas, my friend, men (and women) WILL do whatever they please. We will do it whether we read God's law or not.

Why be concerned with what other people do? Better to be concerned only with what YOU do. After all, it is only by doing this that you may escape, God willing, "the lake with burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death".

God's way? Do you really think you know this? In all the billions of solar systems in this universe, in all the life forms in this dimension, in all the other dimensions, the heavens, the hells, the "lakes that burneth" and God knows what else - can you really say you know?

If you do, God's speed, my friend. But follow it and practice it. If it is right for you, it may well be good for others too, but they will only learn from your actions - not your correction of THEIR actions.

We do, after all, whatever we please, and we will only change our behaviour if we please.