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Message started by Maqqa on Jul 11th, 2011 at 10:52pm

Title: Gone too far
Post by Maqqa on Jul 11th, 2011 at 10:52pm
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/more-news/give-us-our-own-laws-say-islamic-leaders/story-fn7x8me2-1226091923217

ISLAMIC leaders want Muslims in Australia to get interest-free loans for religious reasons.

The nation's Islamic leaders want recognition of sharia law as it applies to banking practices, according to an exclusive Herald Sun survey of imams.

There was also a call for recognition of sharia law as it applies to family law.

Should Australia recognise some aspects of sharia law? Have your say below

The survey showed some imams are sceptical that Osama bin Laden's death will be of benefit to ordinary Muslims, and they are unhappy with the way US forces disposed of his body.

The survey has also revealed:

STRONG condemnation of MPs who criticise Muslim women for wearing the burqa/nijab.

CONCERN that ordinary Muslims are still being linked to terrorism.

DISGUST that innocent people in Muslim countries are being killed in the "war on terror".

The survey was conducted in the wake of a $55,000 Federal Government training program for imams on Australian laws and values.

They have been told to preach core Australian values such as the fair go, freedom, and responsibility.
Imam Yusuf Parker, from the Alhidayah Centre in Perth, said Australia should consider recognising sharia law as it applied to finance and family law matters.

Imam Parker said Islam forbade the charging or paying of interest "so finding interest-free loans will again help Muslims to practise their Islam better".

"Other than the two major issues mentioned, I don't see other sharia law that Muslims would seek to have legally recognised," he said.

Fellow WA imam Sheik Burhaan Mehtar said sharia law often was raised to scare non-Muslims, but a dialogue would lead to better understanding.

"Islamic banking and the non-slavery of humans is a classic example. Interest is slavery," he said.

Islamic Council of Victoria board member Nazeem Hussain said legal and tax barriers currently prevented local banks from offering Islamic finance products.

"That's a massive market ... we'd encourage the Government to seek ways to tap into that market," he said.

Imam Parker said bin Laden's demise might serve as closure for those convinced he masterminded the 9/11 attacks.

"But the reality is that the negative impact on Islam and Muslims has not changed, and it will take many decades for that to change," he said.

Sheik Burhaan Mehtar said the symbolic victory of bin Laden's death would remain hollow while people in nations such as Afghanistan suffered a "terror of death delivered from the skies" by the US and its allies.

Gold Coast imam Imraan Husain reflected a general view that bin Laden's burial at sea was a violation of Islamic funeral rites.

Victorian imam Sheik Ramy Najmeddine said Muslims felt there was an unfair link between terrorism and Islam.

"But we believe this is being broken down by the good work that members of both the Muslim and non-Muslim community are doing."

Sheik Mohamadu Saleem, a spokesman for Board of Imams Victoria, accused some MPs of trying to get political mileage out of the burqa issue. "It is mere political expediency," he said.

Victorian imam Abdinur Weli said:  "If only Muslims are the people who are told what to wear, then it is discrimination."

Title: Re: Gone too far
Post by Maqqa on Jul 11th, 2011 at 10:54pm
If they want their OWN laws then why are they in Australia?

Their OWN laws are call AUSTRALIAN LAWS

There are no other laws in Australia other than AUSTRALIAN LAWS

If you want Sharia Laws then Saudi Arabia has it - live there!

Title: Re: Gone too far
Post by Lestat on Jul 12th, 2011 at 10:14am

Maqqa wrote on Jul 11th, 2011 at 10:54pm:
If they want their OWN laws then why are they in Australia?

Their OWN laws are call AUSTRALIAN LAWS

There are no other laws in Australia other than AUSTRALIAN LAWS

If you want Sharia Laws then Saudi Arabia has it - live there!


I was born here, and am Australian. Where would you like me to go?

If you don't like aboriginal laws, then why are you here. Why did your people come here, and force Aboriginals to change their ways.

Why did you enforce your laws and your beliefs on the people who were here before you?

Besides....whats wrong with interest free loans? If a bank is willing to provide this service to increase its client base, then whats it to you?



Title: Re: Gone too far
Post by Yadda on Jul 12th, 2011 at 12:40pm

Lestat wrote on Jul 12th, 2011 at 10:14am:

Maqqa wrote on Jul 11th, 2011 at 10:54pm:
If they want their OWN laws then why are they in Australia?

Their OWN laws are call AUSTRALIAN LAWS

There are no other laws in Australia other than AUSTRALIAN LAWS

If you want Sharia Laws then Saudi Arabia has it - live there!





I was born here, and am Australian. Where would you like me to go?



Can i suggest, Heard Island ?



Title: Re: Gone too far
Post by Lestat on Jul 12th, 2011 at 1:18pm

Yadda wrote on Jul 12th, 2011 at 12:40pm:

Lestat wrote on Jul 12th, 2011 at 10:14am:

Maqqa wrote on Jul 11th, 2011 at 10:54pm:
If they want their OWN laws then why are they in Australia?

Their OWN laws are call AUSTRALIAN LAWS

There are no other laws in Australia other than AUSTRALIAN LAWS

If you want Sharia Laws then Saudi Arabia has it - live there!





I was born here, and am Australian. Where would you like me to go?



Can i suggest, Heard Island ?


wow...its seems that you can post without 'cutting and pasting'. Then again, if thats your best effort, perhaps you should stick to what you know best.

Title: Re: Gone too far
Post by freediver on Jul 15th, 2011 at 8:08pm
It's quite simple really. If they want Muslims to get interest free loans, then they can lend them the money.

Title: Re: Gone too far
Post by Karnal on Jul 16th, 2011 at 11:53pm
Sure. Christians once had a ban on ursury as well. That's why they invented Jews.

It was only when they did away with ursury laws that a new phenomenon was created: capitalism.

If you ask me, the Muslims have got it right on interest free loans. Still, I wouldn't be getting 6.5% from Ubank if we did away with ursurers.

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