beat the 'boks.

excellent

It doesn't count for sh!t if they can't beat New Zealand.

The South Africans where looking like an ambush in waiting in S.A.

Good to see that outcome didn't happen.

I wanted to watch the match but I couldn't find it in the TV guide.
Last week it was on channel 90 GEM.

I still think the All Blacks will win.

The wallabies did a lot better agains the all blacks than has been said.

We missed  3 kicks and the all blax got 5 from 5.
You'ld reasonably assume we get  2 from 3 and the all blacks get 4 from 5.

Which is a 9 pt turnaround.
Which puts that match within reach - easily.

Sprintcyclist wrote on Aug 14^th, 2011 at 5:16pm:

The wallabies did a lot better agains the all blacks than has been said. We missed  3 kicks and the all blax got 5 from 5. You'ld reasonably assume we get  2 from 3 and the all blacks get 4 from 5. Which is a 9 pt turnaround. Which puts that match within reach - easily.

Yes Sprint,
Dan Carter won that match for the All Blacks.
If he has an off day the Wallabies could still win.

Alternatively, we could just stop giving away penalties............wot?

Aussie wrote on Aug 14^th, 2011 at 9:32pm:

Alternatively, we could just stop giving away penalties............wot?

Maybe but the Aussies were playing badly.
They had more possession of the ball but they just couldn't
pass it down the backline smoothly & make breaks through the
very tight All Black defense.
Sure - the Aussies had one good breakaway try but
that's not enough - they have to make the conditions which
give rise to that.
That would include e.g. a fast long pass or clever tap kick
to where the All Blacks are weakest & catch them off guard
defending the wrong position.

This is like a chess game & the smartest team will win.
I think the All Blacks are just more clever & are mostly likely to win.

However the All Blacks have been known to choke on important matches
so anyone could win.

Bobby. wrote on Aug 14^th, 2011 at 10:45pm:

Aussie wrote on Aug 14th, 2011 at 9:32pm: Alternatively, we could just stop giving away penalties............wot? Maybe but the Aussies were playing badly. They had more possession of the ball but they just couldn't pass it down the backline smoothly & make breaks through the very tight All Black defense. Sure - the Aussies had one good breakaway try but that's not enough - they have to make the conditions which give rise to that. That would include e.g. a fast long pass or clever tap kick to where the All Blacks are weakest & catch them off guard defending the wrong position. This is like a chess game & the smartest team will win. I think the All Blacks are just more clever & are mostly likely to win. However the All Blacks have been known to choke on important matches so anyone could win.

Choke ?

All Blacks had food poisoning in South Africa and were beaten in extra time in one of the world cup finals.

Meanwhile the one time they won was on home soil.

This will be the second world cup on home soil.



Hoping they will choke is not a likely outcome this time.

Wallabies did to the springboks what the all blacks did to them last week  - escape with a win despite being outplayed for the majority of the match.

... wrote on Aug 15^th, 2011 at 11:40am:

Wallabies did to the springboks what the all blacks did to them last week  - escape with a win despite being outplayed for the majority of the match.

Rubbish - the All Blacks out played the Wallabies.

Bobby. wrote on Aug 15^th, 2011 at 11:49am:

... wrote on Aug 15th, 2011 at 11:40am: Wallabies did to the springboks what the all blacks did to them last week  - escape with a win despite being outplayed for the majority of the match. Rubbish - the All Blacks out played the Wallabies.

No, they nailed their kicks, and scored a try from a knock on.  Factor these in and the game is a lot closer than the scoreline makes it look.
Look at the amount of possession aussie had in their 22 - all blacks had good defence to keep them from crossing the line, but they wouldn't be happy conceding so much teritory and possession.  

Match stats - all blacks on the left.  Show me what stat points to the wallabies being outplayed (apart from the score, obviously)

48% POSSESSION 52%
635m RUN METRES 720m
60 ADVANTAGE LINE 69
12 OFF LOADS 11
8 LINE BREAKS 7
23 KICKS 16
143/ 183 TACKLES/ATTEMPTS 116/ 152
2 PILFERS 4
7 PENALITIES CONCEDED 8
13 ERRORS 15

Wesley,

Quote:

143/ 183 TACKLES/ATTEMPTS 116/ 152

This means that the Wallabies had more possession but could do nothing with it.
The All Blacks made much better use of less possession.
That's why they were the better team.

I watched the full game twice.
This modern Rugby is starting to look like Rugby League.
One side can keep possession by using the offside rule to keep
their opponents away from the ball - & passing it back.
Often they are not making any ground by doing so.
It's a weak - low risk strategy which isn't good enough against the All Blacks.

yes, the last Wallaby/All Black game was a LOT closer than the media thought.
Everything clicked for the blax, no bounce of the ball for the wallabies

The next match up ............... I'ld be picking the green and gold.

Best thing is though, everyone beat the 'box

Sprint,

Quote:

no bounce of the ball for the Wallabies

That's a weak excuse.
Are you saying that the Wallabies kicked a lot of clever grub kicks
& didn't get the bounce?
They didn't,

missing also were clever dummy passes with 2 possible
team members who could take the ball at the same time or

passing the ball back from a scrum in front of the goal posts
& kicking a drop goal.

The Aussies had no brains -
just a bunch of losers who don't deserve to win this cup.

Bobby. wrote on Aug 15^th, 2011 at 11:38pm:

Sprint, Quote: no bounce of the ball for the Wallabies That's a weak excuse. Are you saying that the Wallabies kicked a lot of clever grub kicks & didn't get the bounce? They didn't, missing also were clever dummy passes with 2 possible team members who could take the ball at the same time or passing the ball back from a scrum in front of the goal posts & kicking a drop goal. The Aussies had no brains - just a bunch of losers who don't deserve to win this cup.

Great to see they've got your support.  

... wrote on Aug 19^th, 2011 at 10:12am:

Bobby. wrote on Aug 15th, 2011 at 11:38pm: Sprint, Quote: no bounce of the ball for the Wallabies That's a weak excuse. Are you saying that the Wallabies kicked a lot of clever grub kicks & didn't get the bounce? They didn't, missing also were clever dummy passes with 2 possible team members who could take the ball at the same time or passing the ball back from a scrum in front of the goal posts & kicking a drop goal. The Aussies had no brains - just a bunch of losers who don't deserve to win this cup. Great to see they've got your support.

I am supporting the All Blacks because they are winners as
long as Dan Carter doesn't have an off day.

Bobby. wrote on Aug 19^th, 2011 at 3:36pm:

... wrote on Aug 19th, 2011 at 10:12am: Bobby. wrote on Aug 15th, 2011 at 11:38pm: Sprint, Quote: no bounce of the ball for the Wallabies That's a weak excuse. Are you saying that the Wallabies kicked a lot of clever grub kicks & didn't get the bounce? They didn't, missing also were clever dummy passes with 2 possible team members who could take the ball at the same time or passing the ball back from a scrum in front of the goal posts & kicking a drop goal. The Aussies had no brains - just a bunch of losers who don't deserve to win this cup. Great to see they've got your support.   I am supporting the All Blacks because they are winners as long as Dan Carter doesn't have an off day.

You mean like Quade Cooper had an off day against the AB's?  

Quade Cooper is a loser.

and we had a good win against the SBoks in SA

Alwayd a good thing

Sprintcyclist wrote on Aug 20^th, 2011 at 2:17pm:

and we had a good win against the SBoks in SA Alwayd a good thing

The Boks are a second rate team.
That's not a great victory.
Thumping the All Blacks say: 40 to 10 would have been better.  ;)

Bobby. wrote on Aug 20^th, 2011 at 2:20pm:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Aug 20th, 2011 at 2:17pm: and we had a good win against the SBoks in SA Alwayd a good thing The Boks are a second rate team. That's not a great victory. Thumping the All Blacks say: 40 to 10 would have been better.  ;)

That 'second rate' team are the reigning world champions and just beat the favourites for the upcoming world cup.
Do try to think for yourself please.  

Tonight 7.30pm Channel 90 GEM:

RUGBY
Bledisloe Cup - Australia v New Zealand New Episode from Brisbane.

DON'T MISS IT - THIS IS HISTORY.

The Aussies are winning 23 to 3 at half time.

The All Blacks are not looking too good this time.

The Aussies win 25 to 20.

Winners at last.

Bobby. wrote on Aug 27^th, 2011 at 9:58pm:

The Aussies win 25 to 20. Winners at last.

Would be a big wakeup call to your precious All Blacks. This victory tonight has blown the Cup wide open.

Bobby. wrote on Aug 14^th, 2011 at 5:50pm:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Aug 14th, 2011 at 5:16pm: The wallabies did a lot better agains the all blacks than has been said. We missed  3 kicks and the all blax got 5 from 5. You'ld reasonably assume we get  2 from 3 and the all blacks get 4 from 5. Which is a 9 pt turnaround. Which puts that match within reach - easily. Yes Sprint, Dan Carter won that match for the All Blacks. If he has an off day the Wallabies could still win.

bobby - good onya mate.
We knew it was always on the cards

Sprintcyclist wrote on Aug 27^th, 2011 at 11:01pm:

Bobby. wrote on Aug 14th, 2011 at 5:50pm: Sprintcyclist wrote on Aug 14th, 2011 at 5:16pm: The wallabies did a lot better agains the all blacks than has been said. We missed  3 kicks and the all blax got 5 from 5. You'ld reasonably assume we get  2 from 3 and the all blacks get 4 from 5. Which is a 9 pt turnaround. Which puts that match within reach - easily. Yes Sprint, Dan Carter won that match for the All Blacks. If he has an off day the Wallabies could still win. bobby - good onya mate. We knew it was always on the cards

The Wallabies played smart & shut down Dan Carter.
They deserved to win but in reality it was an even match.
The Wallabies are now contenders for the World Cup.

Nice to see the aussies win, though I never saw it.
I'm usually more interested in lawn bowls than I am in rugby.

Goodo then  ;D

Amadd wrote on Aug 28^th, 2011 at 6:11am:

Nice to see the aussies win, though I never saw it. I'm usually more interested in lawn bowls than I am in rugby. Goodo then  ;D

Well Rugby Union is much better than that poofy Aussie Rules or Rugby League.
This is a game for real men.

Great game...well, great first half from the wallabies.  Good aggression that the AB's just couldn't match.
The customary 2nd half fadeout is worrying, but getting the win will provide the psychological edge.

yes, great 1st half.
The ABs overcooked the haka and were rattled
by the 2nd half, everyone is tiring.

It may have been a good game for the ABs to lose.

England to win the world cup.


Get on us. Solid bet.

PS - See the quality of the refereeing for the Bledisloe Cup?
Wayne Barnes, South Gloucestershire, lives about 5 mins from my parents.

Even in refs we produce the best eh?  ;)

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Aug 29^th, 2011 at 1:13pm:

England to win the world cup. Get on us. Solid bet. PS - See the quality of the refereeing for the Bledisloe Cup? Wayne Barnes, South Gloucestershire, lives about 5 mins from my parents. Even in refs we produce the best eh?  ;)

Go ahead - throw your money away.

... wrote on Aug 29^th, 2011 at 1:20pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Aug 29th, 2011 at 1:13pm: England to win the world cup. Get on us. Solid bet. PS - See the quality of the refereeing for the Bledisloe Cup? Wayne Barnes, South Gloucestershire, lives about 5 mins from my parents. Even in refs we produce the best eh?  ;) Go ahead - throw your money away.

Invest it you mean with chance of a positive return?

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Aug 29^th, 2011 at 1:21pm:

... wrote on Aug 29th, 2011 at 1:20pm: Andrei.Hicks wrote on Aug 29th, 2011 at 1:13pm: England to win the world cup. Get on us. Solid bet. PS - See the quality of the refereeing for the Bledisloe Cup? Wayne Barnes, South Gloucestershire, lives about 5 mins from my parents. Even in refs we produce the best eh?  ;) Go ahead - throw your money away. Invest it you mean with chance of a positive return?

Yeah.  The chance might be infinitesimal, but there is a chance nonetheless.  A loss to Wales and a scrappy, lucky win against ireland doesn't fill one with confidence, but maybe thats all part of the plan.

I think it will be the ABs or the Wallabies

Sprintcyclist wrote on Aug 29^th, 2011 at 1:37pm:

I think it will be the ABs or the Wallabies

A team of chokers and a team of youngsters.

Nope.

The Northern Hemisphere invaders are coming.

Maybe even England v France final?

Sprintcyclist wrote on Aug 14^th, 2011 at 3:00am:

beat the 'boks. excellent

It matters not.  England are still going to appear in the Final for a third time in sucession and then win it.

The England rugby union team are like the Germany football team.  No matter how they perform in meaningless friendlies they always seem to know what it takes to do well during a World Cup.

Come on England!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/images/39514000/jpg/_39514016_fan_bbq200.jpg
An England fan celebrates after THAT 2003 Rugby World Cup Final

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Aug 29^th, 2011 at 2:00pm:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Aug 29th, 2011 at 1:37pm: I think it will be the ABs or the Wallabies A team of chokers and a team of youngsters. Nope. The Northern Hemisphere invaders are coming. Maybe even England v France final?

That would be good - if England win.

The English love beating the French more than they love beating anybody else.

Ist game:
The All Blacks beat the Tongans 41 to 10 tonight.

Sports Bet is offering 5 to 1 on the Wallabies to win the cup
- maybe it's worth a bet?

we watched the game and i have to say, the abs seemed a little flat, the score is quite telling.  i hope they pull collective finger and get back some passion for the game, some hunger, and maintain that.

if we don't take it i hope you guys (wallabies) do, england next choice.

as a footnote, i hope those poor buggers who couldn't get to the opening celebrations because of aucklands public transport failure get compensated.

Gotta luv the World Cup and the free to air coverage we're getting.

adelcrow wrote on Sep 10^th, 2011 at 7:48am:

Gotta luv the World Cup and the free to air coverage we're getting.

Yes channel 90 tonight:   GEM


Rugby World Cup 2011
Argentina v England 6pm - 8.30pm GEM Tonight ALT. TIMES

Wide World Of Sports presents Argentina v England from Otago Stadium, Dunedin. Join our commentary team as these both well placed teams, both ready to stamp their authority in

Poms win  13 to 9.

They taught those cheeky Argys a lesson.  ;D

argentians are pretty good

the ABs turned off the afterburners once ahead.
Sonny bill williams is real class

Sprintcyclist wrote on Sep 10^th, 2011 at 8:38pm:

argentians are pretty good the ABs turned off the afterburners once ahead. Sonny bill williams is real class

The Poms didn't play well - they'll have to do a lot better than that
to beat some of the other contenders.

I did not see the game, doubt england can win it.

it's up to Aussie or ABs in my books

Sprintcyclist wrote on Sep 10^th, 2011 at 9:11pm:

I did not see the game, doubt england can win it. it's up to Aussie or ABs in my books

Hi Sprint,
I think I should put my house on the Wallabies -
I'd get 5 houses if they win - the're paying 5 to 1.  ;D

Always nice to put one over those Argie bastards in any sport.

Be in football or rugby - and they aren't having our Falkland Islands either.
:)

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Sep 11^th, 2011 at 11:09am:

Always nice to put one over those Argie bastards in any sport. Be in football or rugby - and they aren't having our Falkland Islands either. :)

That will make them think twice before invading the Falklands again.
They'll get a ruddy good thrashing if they try.  ;D

well, how was that.

thank you for coming italy

Bobby. wrote on Sep 10^th, 2011 at 9:00pm:

The Poms didn't play well

Neither did the Kiwis, Aussies, Frogs and South Africans.

All of those teams will have to play better if they want to win the tournament.

Cofgod wrote on Sep 12^th, 2011 at 4:46am:

Bobby. wrote on Sep 10th, 2011 at 9:00pm: The Poms didn't play well Neither did the Kiwis, Aussies, Frogs and South Africans. All of those teams will have to play better if they want to win the tournament.

You obviously didn't see the opening match where
the All Blacks scored many spectacular tries.

Bobby. wrote on Sep 12^th, 2011 at 9:24am:

Cofgod wrote on Sep 12th, 2011 at 4:46am: Bobby. wrote on Sep 10th, 2011 at 9:00pm: The Poms didn't play well Neither did the Kiwis, Aussies, Frogs and South Africans. All of those teams will have to play better if they want to win the tournament. You obviously didn't see the opening match where the All Blacks scored many spectacular tries.

Wasn't that the match in which the All Blacks fans thought would be a 50-60 point win, at the very least, for their team?

New Zealand will get past the group stage and then, once up against one of the big boys in the latter stages, they'll blow it.

Cofgod wrote on Sep 13^th, 2011 at 12:27am:

Bobby. wrote on Sep 12th, 2011 at 9:24am: Cofgod wrote on Sep 12th, 2011 at 4:46am: Bobby. wrote on Sep 10th, 2011 at 9:00pm: The Poms didn't play well Neither did the Kiwis, Aussies, Frogs and South Africans. All of those teams will have to play better if they want to win the tournament. You obviously didn't see the opening match where the All Blacks scored many spectacular tries. Wasn't that the match in which the All Blacks fans thought would be a 50-60 point win, at the very least, for their team? New Zealand will get past the group stage and then, once up against one of the big boys in the latter stages, they'll blow it.

The All Blacks choked against France last time - to lose out at a chance for the World Cup.

yes, it would not take much to rattle the kiwis.
"their strength is their weakness"

What are their plans if Dan Carter can't play ?
Sonny Bill Williams is their ace up the sleeve.


SA can't do it, nor england.
Aussie has the flair, versatility, confidence and panache to win it.

Sprintcyclist wrote on Sep 13^th, 2011 at 12:30pm:

yes, it would not take much to rattle the kiwis. "their strength is their weakness" What are their plans if Dan Carter can't play ? Sonny Bill Williams is their ace up the sleeve. SA can't do it, nor england. Aussie has the flair, versatility, confidence and panache to win it.

Don't write off England yet.
They somehow change the game into a team of all forwards
& win with power & determination.
The Argys couldn't even pass the ball down their backline -
it's hard to score against England.

A team of 15 bulky forwards would be pretty formidable.

Defense oft wins the big games.

I'll make sure I see the english play

I am running a footy tipping comp for the finals in the RWC amongst my family.

BIG question is ......... who will I pick when the ABs and wallabies turn up in the grand final .........

Sprintcyclist wrote on Sep 13^th, 2011 at 3:48pm:

I am running a footy tipping comp for the finals in the RWC amongst my family. BIG question is ......... who will I pick when the ABs and Wallabies turn up in the grand final .........

That is presumptuous:

RWC 2007 winners:
South Africa vs  England  15–6

Runners up:
Argentina  vs France  34–10

The All Blacks & Aussies didn't even make it in the first 4.

Here are the All Blacks losing the last World Cup chance against France -
not by much - good game.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=QUS8FfW8hOg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=QUS8FfW8hOg

No one can beat the All Blacks if they do their cut throat Haka.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cnQEvhHDsuM&NR=1

More Hakas,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=68NvhnMblw8

The ABs erred in playing their top players against tonga.

At least don't put them on the field till after the first 30 minutes


Aussie have treated oconnor well
he won't play up again.

The All Blacks beat the Japs 83 to 7.

Go the Kiwis!


http://www.rugbyworldcup.com/home/news/newsid=2051688.html

Tonight - Ireland has beaten The Wallabies 15 - 6.

This is a disaster.


http://www.rugbyworldcup.com/home/matches/match=10935/report.html#ireland+boot+into+wallabies

All part of the plan bobby.
We want to play SA in the quarter final

We'll WHIP them.  :-), then it's simple

Sprintcyclist wrote on Sep 17^th, 2011 at 11:35pm:

All part of the plan bobby. We want to play SA in the quarter final We'll WHIP them.  :-), then it's simple

That's rubbish - you always aim to win every match.
Losing can become normal your way.

AUSTRALIA to finish second in their Group and then go into NZ's half of the draw.

How funny.  ;D

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Sep 18^th, 2011 at 10:52am:

AUSTRALIA to finish second in their Group and then go into NZ's half of the draw. How funny.  ;D

Hi Andrei,
Just watched the news on 3 TV channels this morning.
The RWC was not even mentioned.
Seems the loss of the Wallabies is too dire to even mention.
If they'd won it would be wall to wall coverage.

Aussies are bad sports.

Bobby. wrote on Sep 19^th, 2011 at 7:41am:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Sep 18th, 2011 at 10:52am: AUSTRALIA to finish second in their Group and then go into NZ's half of the draw. How funny.  ;D Hi Andrei, Just watched the news on 3 TV channels this morning. The RWC was not even mentioned. Seems the loss of the Wallabies is too dire to even mention. If they'd won it would be wall to wall coverage. Aussies are bad sports.

yes have to agree there... but then dont know too much about other countries...however its very noticable here that when they lose it goes off the radar..I thought Ireland were all over Australia to be honest..

we get told they dont play their best players in the early games.. but really 15.6. is bad very bad.

go the Allblacks I love watching them

cods wrote on Sep 19^th, 2011 at 1:34pm:

Bobby. wrote on Sep 19th, 2011 at 7:41am: Andrei.Hicks wrote on Sep 18th, 2011 at 10:52am: AUSTRALIA to finish second in their Group and then go into NZ's half of the draw. How funny.  ;D Hi Andrei, Just watched the news on 3 TV channels this morning. The RWC was not even mentioned. Seems the loss of the Wallabies is too dire to even mention. If they'd won it would be wall to wall coverage. Aussies are bad sports. yes have to agree there... but then dont know too much about other countries...however its very noticable here that when they lose it goes off the radar..I thought Ireland were all over Australia to be honest.. we get told they dont play their best players in the early games.. but really 15.6. is bad very bad. go the Allblacks I love watching them

Thanks Cods - nothing on TV about the RWC.
I want to see all the matches.
I can see the highlights on the RWC site above.

One for the Kiwis :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WazeyJtY7UQ

The Wallabies kicked the Yanks butts tonight in Wellington -  67-5.


http://www.cbc.ca/sports/story/2011/09/23/sp-rwc-australia-usa.html
Quote:

FAussie -Anthony Fainga'a, was knocked unconscious in the final minute of the match while making a tackle. Fainga'a lay motionless for several minutes before being taken off the field on a stretcher and faces a likely layoff due to a concussion

It was a terrible injury - he lay unconscious for ages & I thought he was dead
after a knee to the head.
Rugby is a very dangerous game.

Bobby. wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2011 at 10:45pm:

It was a terrible injury - he lay unconscious for ages & I thought he was dead

That wouldn't have mattered.  There would have been another player to replace him.

Cofgod wrote on Sep 26^th, 2011 at 9:21pm:

Bobby. wrote on Sep 23rd, 2011 at 10:45pm: It was a terrible injury - he lay unconscious for ages & I thought he was dead That wouldn't have mattered.  There would have been another player to replace him.

Yes it's a violent game.
It reminds me of the Roman gladiators.

Bobby. wrote on Sep 26^th, 2011 at 9:27pm:

Cofgod wrote on Sep 26th, 2011 at 9:21pm: Bobby. wrote on Sep 23rd, 2011 at 10:45pm: It was a terrible injury - he lay unconscious for ages & I thought he was dead That wouldn't have mattered.  There would have been another player to replace him. Yes it's a violent game. It reminds me of the Roman gladiators.

I would say the Roman gladiators experienced much more violence.  How many Aviva Premiership players get attacked by lions during a match?

By the way, there's a 2,000 year old Roman ampitheatre (or at least the remains of it) in Chester, not too far from where I live in Bolton and gladiators fought lions and other animals - as well as with other gladiators - there.

It's amazing what you can find in Britain if you did.  

In Australia if somebody digs up something 100 years old it is considered ancient.

The Wallabies won today .

http://www.rugbyworldcup.com/home/matches/match=11229/report.html#wallabies+stand+tall+against+boks+onslaught

Quote:

Australia withstood tremendous pressure from South Africa to edge their quarter-final against the Springboks 11-9 in Wellington on Sunday.

Now they must play the All Blacks.
They won in the last big match in Brisbane.
It will be a top match next weekend.

The All Blacks didn't look so good against the Argys even though they won  33-10.

The game against SA was magnificant.
We played a terrible strategy, I hate kicking away possession to the opposition, esp with our backline.

Was SUCH a tough game makes the ABs have an easy game next week.

..now for the Kiwis   ;D ;D ;D

Amadd wrote on Oct 10^th, 2011 at 6:11am:

..now for the Kiwis   ;D ;D ;D

The Haka will win it for the All Blacks.  ;)

Even the Hakas are chokers!!  ;D ;D ;D

They're all Kiwis, choking is their nature.

Sprintcyclist wrote on Oct 10^th, 2011 at 1:42am:

The game against SA was magnificant. We played a terrible strategy, I hate kicking away possession to the opposition, esp with our backline. Was SUCH a tough game makes the ABs have an easy game next week.

When theyve got blokes like Morne Steyn who can kick penalties from halfway, playing for territory is the way to go.  

Very normally the team that gets the most tries wins.
You only get a try by keeping possession.

if you kick it away, the opps will run it back at you, and you'll have to tackle them.
It gets your team into a defensive mindset and them into an attaking mindset.

It's a simple game. The forwards win possession, give it to the backs, they get the tries.
Run to your support and pass it.

Sprintcyclist wrote on Oct 10^th, 2011 at 12:18pm:

Very normally the team that gets the most tries wins. You only get a try by keeping possession. if you kick it away, the opps will run it back at you, and you'll have to tackle them. It gets your team into a defensive mindset and them into an attaking mindset. It's a simple game. The forwards win possession, give it to the backs, they get the tries. Run to your support and pass it.

Fair call, but....

That is not how this game went. Our time in possesion was SFA and the defensive game (almost 3x's the takles) we played was magnificant.

But.....you can't keep that up and soon you will start losing.

Great win all the same. 8-)

Yea well this week will sort us out,we haven't won at Eden park since 1986.

FriYAY wrote on Oct 10^th, 2011 at 1:54pm:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Oct 10th, 2011 at 12:18pm: Very normally the team that gets the most tries wins. You only get a try by keeping possession. if you kick it away, the opps will run it back at you, and you'll have to tackle them. It gets your team into a defensive mindset and them into an attaking mindset. It's a simple game. The forwards win possession, give it to the backs, they get the tries. Run to your support and pass it. Fair call, but.... That is not how this game went. Our time in possesion was SFA and the defensive game (almost 3x's the takles) we played was magnificant. But.....you can't keep that up and soon you will start losing. Great win all the same. 8-)

magnificant win, showed we were really a 20 pt better team than SA.
that was the worst game we have played for years.

But now, that was our grand final game and our tank is empty.
AB's had an easyish game (despite injuries), they will be fresh next week. We will be fatigued.

Sports Bet odds:
http://www.sportsbet.com.au/betting/rugby-union/world-cup-2011


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Head To HeadIncludes ET if required Saturday 15/10/2011 Includes ET if required Markets (27) 19:00 | Wales v France   Wales  1.73   France  2.09   Sunday 16/10/2011 Includes ET if required Markets (27) 19:00 | New Zealand v Australia   New Zealand  1.36   Australia  3.20   Includes ET if required

Looks like the Aussies are rank outsiders at 3.2
Sorry boys - the Wallabies aint gunna make it.

yed, I'ld pick wales above france.
France are hot and cold. wales are VERY fit.

Its hard to overcome opponents when they just keep running.
if wales just keep running for 80 minutes, anyone will have to be on their game ot beat them.

Bobby. wrote on Oct 10^th, 2011 at 10:48pm:

Looks like the Aussies are rank outsiders at 3.2 Sorry boys - the Wallabies aint gunna make it.

We will have to wait and see, the game will decide the winner, not the odds... ::)

But it will take a mighty good effort to beat the AB's that's for sure.

FriYAY wrote on Oct 11^th, 2011 at 11:57am:

Bobby. wrote on Oct 10th, 2011 at 10:48pm: Looks like the Aussies are rank outsiders at 3.2 Sorry boys - the Wallabies aint gunna make it. We will have to wait and see, the game will decide the winner, not the odds... ::) But it will take a mighty good effort to beat the AB's that's for sure.

I can't wait to see it - wouldn't miss it for the world.

Bobby. wrote on Oct 10^th, 2011 at 10:48pm:

Sports Bet odds: http://www.sportsbet.com.au/betting/rugby-union/world-cup-2011 Quote: Head To HeadIncludes ET if required Saturday 15/10/2011 Includes ET if required Markets (27) 19:00 | Wales v France   Wales  1.73   France  2.09   Sunday 16/10/2011 Includes ET if required Markets (27) 19:00 | New Zealand v Australia   New Zealand  1.36   Australia  3.20   Includes ET if required Looks like the Aussies are rank outsiders at 3.2 Sorry boys - the Wallabies aint gunna make it.

The odds have changed only slightly.


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Head To HeadIncludes ET if required Saturday 15/10/2011 Includes ET if required Markets (27) 19:00 | Wales v France   Wales  1.73   France  2.09   Sunday 16/10/2011 Includes ET if required Markets (27) 19:00 | New Zealand v Australia   New Zealand  1.40   Australia  3.05

Don't forget:
France versus Wales - Saturday 15th Oct 2011

Aussies versus Kiwis  - Sunday 16th Oct  2001.



IT'S FREE ON TV - channel 9   or  90.

Get the slab of VB ready.

Come - on - someone reply -
this is a big rugby weekend.

I am too nervous to reply

Sprintcyclist wrote on Oct 15^th, 2011 at 3:49am:

I am too nervous to reply

VB will stop the nervousness Sprint.  :)

This must be the best weekend for ages & it's free!

http://au.tv.yahoo.com/tv-guide


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Channel 9 today 15th Oct 2011 Rugby World Cup 2011 6:30pm - 9:06pm Semifinal: Wales v France Genre:Sport Wide World Of Sports presents the 1st Semi-Final of the Rugby World Cup live from Eden Park, Auckland. Join George Gregan, Andrew Slack along with Ken Sutcliffe for all the action. Channel 9 Tomorrow 16th Oct 2011. Rugby World Cup 2011 6:30pm - 8:40pm Semifinal: Australia v New Zealand Genre:Sport Wide World Of Sports presents the 1st Semi-Final of the Rugby World Cup live from Eden Park, Auckland. Join George Gregan, Andrew Slack along with Ken Sutcliffe for all the action.

Don't miss out - only a few hours to go!

France won 9 -8
& will play the winner of tomorrows match.
Good tough game.

that was the MOST disappointing game i have ever seen.
the rugby admin have to change the send-off rule.

it completely ruined the game for the 60,000 spectators, the millions of viewers and the other 14 members of that team

Sprintcyclist wrote on Oct 15^th, 2011 at 8:16pm:

that was the MOST disappointing game i have ever seen. the rugby admin have to change the send-off rule. it completely ruined the game for the 60,000 spectators, the millions of viewers and the other 14 members of that team

I think the red card for a spear tackle is good.
You could easily break a man's neck & turn him into a quadriplegic.
The captain - of all people - should know the rules.

ask the 60,000 spectators.
In league, they'ld put him on report. The game would go on equally.

Later on a committee would decide on it after the video reviews.
Whatever they do it better than ruining that game.
they might ban him for life.

Sprintcyclist wrote on Oct 15^th, 2011 at 8:52pm:

ask the 60,000 spectators. In league, they'ld put him on report. The game would go on equally. Later on a committee would decide on it after the video reviews. Whatever they do it better than ruining that game. they might ban him for life.

Sorry about it Soren - sport can be like that sometimes -
you have to be a man & take it!
Rugby is a bit like life sometimes.

Better luck maybe tonight.

Bobby. wrote on Oct 15^th, 2011 at 8:43pm:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Oct 15th, 2011 at 8:16pm: that was the MOST disappointing game i have ever seen. the rugby admin have to change the send-off rule. it completely ruined the game for the 60,000 spectators, the millions of viewers and the other 14 members of that team I think the red card for a spear tackle is good. You could easily break a man's neck & turn him into a quadriplegic. The captain - of all people - should know the rules.

or much much worse! tetraplegic...death...im sure rugby followers/players/supporters etc know at least one person seriously hurt due to rugby? ALOT is unreported in both codes.

still....go the abs!

ashlee wrote on Oct 16^th, 2011 at 3:39pm:

Bobby. wrote on Oct 15th, 2011 at 8:43pm: Sprintcyclist wrote on Oct 15th, 2011 at 8:16pm: that was the MOST disappointing game i have ever seen. the rugby admin have to change the send-off rule. it completely ruined the game for the 60,000 spectators, the millions of viewers and the other 14 members of that team I think the red card for a spear tackle is good. You could easily break a man's neck & turn him into a quadriplegic. The captain - of all people - should know the rules. or much much worse! tetraplegic...death...im sure rugby followers/players/supporters etc know at least one person seriously hurt due to rugby? ALOT is unreported in both codes. still....go the abs!

Thanks for agreeing with me.
Not long to go now before the big historic game.

Bobby. wrote on Oct 16^th, 2011 at 3:58pm:

ashlee wrote on Oct 16th, 2011 at 3:39pm: Bobby. wrote on Oct 15th, 2011 at 8:43pm: Sprintcyclist wrote on Oct 15th, 2011 at 8:16pm: that was the MOST disappointing game i have ever seen. the rugby admin have to change the send-off rule. it completely ruined the game for the 60,000 spectators, the millions of viewers and the other 14 members of that team I think the red card for a spear tackle is good. You could easily break a man's neck & turn him into a quadriplegic. The captain - of all people - should know the rules. or much much worse! tetraplegic...death...im sure rugby followers/players/supporters etc know at least one person seriously hurt due to rugby? ALOT is unreported in both codes. still....go the abs! Thanks for agreeing with me. Not long to go now before the big historic game.

we do all know someone bobby  :(

im counting down.....got a couple of beers chilling for my husband and i....and, depending on the outcome, we're both self employed so if it so happens abs win.....we might just have to have tomorrow off

ashlee,

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got a couple of beers chilling for my husband

I just cracked a VB stubby - I'm ready for the game.  :)

i'm ready too

go the ABs.

the sending off or not does not stop dangerous actions on the field.
a committee can agree on some punishment better after the game out of the excitement of the time.

sending off does ruin the game.
it does not ensure safety for any player

Sprintcyclist wrote on Oct 16^th, 2011 at 5:29pm:

i'm ready too go the ABs.

go the AB'S! good luck wallabies!

ashlee wrote on Oct 16^th, 2011 at 5:46pm:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Oct 16th, 2011 at 5:29pm: i'm ready too go the ABs. go the AB'S! good luck wallabies!

a win is a win! night all 8-)

The Wallabies were losers.

Go the All Blacks against the French next weekend.

Horrible effort by the Wallabies. Cooper can kiss his spot goodbye I think.

yes, wasn't such a good game.
too much kicking, why kick away posession ?

Every time there is a Rugby Union World Cup in New Zealand it's always a New Zealand VS France final.

Overall, the rugby world cup is a poorly run comp.

Too many meaningless games, too one-sided, the final games are ........uninspiring.

Sprintcyclist wrote on Oct 17^th, 2011 at 2:07pm:

Overall, the rugby world cup is a poorly run comp. Too many meaningless games, too one-sided, the final games are ........uninspiring.

Yes Sprint,
I was dissapointed with the last 2 games.
The scores were so low.
I mean only 1 try in a whole match?

It was a bit boring compared to some of the earlier matches.

I would still watch the last 2 games.
Imagine if France won?  ;D

Bobby. wrote on Oct 17^th, 2011 at 10:08pm:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Oct 17th, 2011 at 2:07pm: Overall, the rugby world cup is a poorly run comp. Too many meaningless games, too one-sided, the final games are ........uninspiring. Yes Sprint, I was dissapointed with the last 2 games. The scores were so low. I mean only 1 try in a whole match? It was a bit boring compared to some of the earlier matches. I would still watch the last 2 games. Imagine if France won?  ;D

perish the thought go the All Blacks..they are definately the team to watch

Sprintcyclist wrote on Oct 17^th, 2011 at 2:07pm:

Overall, the rugby world cup is a poorly run comp. Too many meaningless games, too one-sided, the final games are ........uninspiring.

I agree I prefer watching Union against league..but when you see this WORLD CUP...so they bring in all this minnows to make it look like the world plays Union..they are doing themselves an injustice I think and making it all a bit hohum... its isnt interesting/exciting watching one team go over the line 50 times.. it just isnt!

good luck with countries like Korea and Japan.. but to put them in the same basket with the likes of NZ.. Eng.Aust.and SA..makes them look  like fools for turning up.

maybe having divisions like the soccer

cods wrote on Oct 18^th, 2011 at 9:29am:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Oct 17th, 2011 at 2:07pm: Overall, the rugby world cup is a poorly run comp. Too many meaningless games, too one-sided, the final games are ........uninspiring. I agree I prefer watching Union against league..but when you see this WORLD CUP...so they bring in all this minnows to make it look like the world plays Union..they are doing themselves an injustice I think and making it all a bit hohum... its isnt interesting/exciting watching one team go over the line 50 times.. it just isnt! good luck with countries like Korea and Japan.. but to put them in the same basket with the likes of NZ.. Eng.Aust.and SA..makes them look  like fools for turning up. maybe having divisions like the soccer

exactly cods.

Could have the Div A being the top 10 teams
The Div. B the bottom 10 teams.

They can play 2 years apart in a country that is in that comp.
There would be closer games, better games.

Apparenlt NZ has lost milli9ns through hosting this overblown circus.

Imagine a Div 2 comp held in Romania. it'ld be great for rugby there.

Sprintcyclist wrote on Oct 18^th, 2011 at 12:42pm:

cods wrote on Oct 18th, 2011 at 9:29am: Sprintcyclist wrote on Oct 17th, 2011 at 2:07pm: Overall, the rugby world cup is a poorly run comp. Too many meaningless games, too one-sided, the final games are ........uninspiring. I agree I prefer watching Union against league..but when you see this WORLD CUP...so they bring in all this minnows to make it look like the world plays Union..they are doing themselves an injustice I think and making it all a bit hohum... its isnt interesting/exciting watching one team go over the line 50 times.. it just isnt! good luck with countries like Korea and Japan.. but to put them in the same basket with the likes of NZ.. Eng.Aust.and SA..makes them look  like fools for turning up. maybe having divisions like the soccer exactly cods. Could have the Div A being the top 10 teams The Div. B the bottom 10 teams. They can play 2 years apart in a country that is in that comp. There would be closer games, better games. Apparenlt NZ has lost milli9ns through hosting this overblown circus. Imagine a Div 2 comp held in Romania. it'ld be great for rugby there.

thats pretty sad if NZ have lost money...union being their No 1 sport...but really why would you want to watch All blacks play Korea... even the kiwis would draw the line I would think..

its all a big money grab at the end of the day quality has not much to do with anything.. in the early games the good teams dont use their best players.. and so it goes on..the public is ripped off.

would you bother waching LA Galaxy knowing Beckham wouldnt be playing???

Sprintcyclist wrote on Oct 18^th, 2011 at 12:42pm:

cods wrote on Oct 18th, 2011 at 9:29am: Sprintcyclist wrote on Oct 17th, 2011 at 2:07pm: Overall, the rugby world cup is a poorly run comp. Too many meaningless games, too one-sided, the final games are ........uninspiring. I agree I prefer watching Union against league..but when you see this WORLD CUP...so they bring in all this minnows to make it look like the world plays Union..they are doing themselves an injustice I think and making it all a bit hohum... its isnt interesting/exciting watching one team go over the line 50 times.. it just isnt! good luck with countries like Korea and Japan.. but to put them in the same basket with the likes of NZ.. Eng.Aust.and SA..makes them look  like fools for turning up. maybe having divisions like the soccer exactly cods. Could have the Div A being the top 10 teams The Div. B the bottom 10 teams. They can play 2 years apart in a country that is in that comp. There would be closer games, better games. Apparenlt NZ has lost milli9ns through hosting this overblown circus. Imagine a Div 2 comp held in Romania. it'ld be great for rugby there.

i fully agree sprint unfortunately the whole set up with bonus points etc is geared towards keeping the top ranked teams in at the end phases. :-[

very unfair.

as a tax payer it will fall on us (kiwis) to pick up the short fall.....all $39MILLION and counting  :o, of it....and that doesn't take into account the MILLIONS tax payers are going to be expected to cover for the Rena disaster  >:(

bluddy great  :(

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thats pretty sad if NZ have lost money...union being their No 1 sport...but really why would you want to watch All blacks play Korea... even the kiwis would draw the line I would think..

its all a big money grab at the end of the day quality has not much to do with anything.. in the early games the good teams dont use their best players.. and so it goes on..the public is ripped off. [/quote]




exactly cods and as a nzer im embarrassed and ashamed how prices have sky rocketed during this time. its an expensive excersise just coming to nz from the northern hemisphere re: travel costs alone, then visitors get here and are literally (and NO pun intended  ;) ), getting fleeced by the unpricipled and unscrupulous.

ashlee wrote on Oct 19^th, 2011 at 7:14am:



thats pretty sad if NZ have lost money...union being their No 1 sport...but really why would you want to watch All blacks play Korea... even the kiwis would draw the line I would think..

its all a big money grab at the end of the day quality has not much to do with anything.. in the early games the good teams dont use their best players.. and so it goes on..the public is ripped off. [/quote]




exactly cods and as a nzer im embarrassed and ashamed how prices have sky rocketed during this time. its an expensive excersise just coming to nz from the northern hemisphere re: travel costs alone, then visitors get here and are literally (and NO pun intended  ;) ), getting fleeced by the unpricipled and unscrupulous.[/quote]


not NZs fault though.. its the scoundrels that run the show..they like to fly first class everywhere..and have the best accommodation and everything that goes with it..demi gods..what they need a good shot of ... is being responsible for what they create if its a mess and makes a losee.. then its their fault not the NZ taxpayers..

you have had a terrible time this year and I think its disgraceful that a small group of Empire Builders..live like lords, yet take no responsibility..

isnt it the same with the Olympic crowd.. its all full of corruption and cheats.

The Wallabies won tonight but they were lucky as Wales didn't kick some easy goals.

score: 18 to 21.

Aussies  3rd place - a bronze medal.


Sunday will be great.
France versus NZ.  :)

I   missed the game !!!!!!!!!!!

Assumed it was saturday night and organised a surprise party for my wife for friday night.

Well done Wallabies. Wales are a very tough team
We've got the wrong coach

It's nice that we got third but playing off for the bronze, I think, is a bit of a wank.

cods wrote on Oct 19^th, 2011 at 10:35am:

ashlee wrote on Oct 19th, 2011 at 7:14am: thats pretty sad if NZ have lost money...union being their No 1 sport...but really why would you want to watch All blacks play Korea... even the kiwis would draw the line I would think.. its all a big money grab at the end of the day quality has not much to do with anything.. in the early games the good teams dont use their best players.. and so it goes on..the public is ripped off.

exactly cods and as a nzer im embarrassed and ashamed how prices have sky rocketed during this time. its an expensive excersise just coming to nz from the northern hemisphere re: travel costs alone, then visitors get here and are literally (and NO pun intended  ;) ), getting fleeced by the unpricipled and unscrupulous.[/quote]


not NZs fault though.. its the scoundrels that run the show..they like to fly first class everywhere..and have the best accommodation and everything that goes with it..demi gods..what they need a good shot of ... is being responsible for what they create if its a mess and makes a losee.. then its their fault not the NZ taxpayers..

you have had a terrible time this year and I think its disgraceful that a small group of Empire Builders..live like lords, yet take no responsibility..

isnt it the same with the Olympic crowd.. its all full of corruption and cheats.[/quote]





unfortunately cods, although it isn't nz's fault, nz'ers will have to cough up.

corruption is rife at top level, higher eschalon levels.

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quote author=ashlee link=1313254805/120#128 date=1319255965] cods wrote on Oct 19th, 2011 at 10:35am: ashlee wrote on Oct 19th, 2011 at 7:14am: thats pretty sad if NZ have lost money...union being their No 1 sport...but really why would you want to watch All blacks play Korea... even the kiwis would draw the line I would think.. its all a big money grab at the end of the day quality has not much to do with anything.. in the early games the good teams dont use their best players.. and so it goes on..the public is ripped off. exactly cods and as a nzer im embarrassed and ashamed how prices have sky rocketed during this time. its an expensive excersise just coming to nz from the northern hemisphere re: travel costs alone, then visitors get here and are literally (and NO pun intended  ;) ), getting fleeced by the unpricipled and unscrupulous.

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not NZs fault though.. its the scoundrels that run the show..they like to fly first class everywhere..and have the best accommodation and everything that goes with it..demi gods..what they need a good shot of ... is being responsible for what they create if its a mess and makes a losee.. then its their fault not the NZ taxpayers.. you have had a terrible time this year and I think its disgraceful that a small group of Empire Builders..live like lords, yet take no responsibility.. isnt it the same with the Olympic crowd.. its all full of corruption and cheats.

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unfortunately cods, although it isn't nz's fault, nz'ers will have to cough up. corruption is rife at top level, higher eschalon levels

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Come on guys.
The Kiwis will make a fortune out of this Rugby World Cup.
The cheapest seat is $800 at the final & you had to go
into a random draw & buy 3 other tickets first to get one.
The hotels are booked out -
the restaurant owners are laughing -
the travel agents are counting the piles of dollars.
It's all good except for the injuries to the players.
Some will be scarred for life.

Amadd wrote on Oct 22^nd, 2011 at 4:42am:

It's nice that we got third but playing off for the bronze, I think, is a bit of a wank.

yes

it's a BAD comp.
NZ and AUST or Wales should be in the final .

I'll be watching the World Cup Final tomorrow.

For you lot in Oz the match is later on in the day.  For us here in Blighty it starts at 9am.  Even though it'll be a Sunday I'll be getting up early to watch it.  I'll snuggle up on the sofa under my dufet (I like doing that at this time of year when it's sub-zero Arctic conditions outside and so cold that Australians cannot even imagine it )with a nice hot cup of tea.

Being an Englishman I naturally would like New Zealand to defeat the French tomorrow.

Sprintcyclist wrote on Oct 22^nd, 2011 at 8:10pm:

it's a BAD comp. NZ and AUST or Wales should be in the final .

Australia and Wales shouldn't be in the Final.  They both lost in the Semi-Final (althought the Taffs still haven't stopped whingeing about that deserved red card that Warbuton received when he almost broke a Frog's neck).

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it's a BAD comp. NZ and AUST or Wales should be in the final .

By sprintcyclist


Who cares, France is in the final and for a french australian like me it goes like this


Viv la france  ;D ;D :D :D

ARRRRRGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHH, I have a VERY important bridge game tomorrow night.
Have found I play better if I have not drunk the night before.So, will watch the World Cup Grand Final and not drink a drop.

Your own game is the best game.

Final result:

NZ - 1st
France 2nd
Aussies 3rd
Wales 4th.

A narrow margin for the final tonight but
the All Blacks played the best in the whole competition.

Better luck next time Aussies. :)

it was a poor game, AB's did not merit a win

Sprintcyclist wrote on Oct 24^th, 2011 at 10:00am:

it was a poor game, AB's did not merit a win

The real travesty would have been if France became the first team ever to win the Rugby Union World Cup after losing two games along the way.