Watch this video.
This is what Muslims want here in Australia.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l8kZSeeZqe0

It is? Yes, the entire Muslim community just seems pre-occupied with introducing this.

And if you're not very vigilant it might just happen right? I mean laws just "slip" into application just like *that* all the time. Ohhh better be careful....

abu_rashid wrote on Sep 24^th, 2011 at 9:32am:

It is? Yes, the entire Muslim community just seems pre-occupied with introducing this. And if you're not very vigilant it might just happen right? I mean laws just "slip" into application just like *that* all the time. Ohhh better be careful....

Yes it's true - that's what will happen here too if Muslims get their way.
Already Julia Gillard wants to send asylum seekers to Malaysia
knowing that many will be caned like this.
It will act as a deterrent to refugees.

It's incredibly barbaric & can be done for minor "crimes" like
drinking a glass of beer.
Abu - we don't want this here & we should break off diplomatic relations
with Malaysia - not encourage it.

Weren't there a few local Muslims asking for shariah courts a while back?

I agree with Abu. The price of freedom is eternal vigilance.

freediver wrote on Sep 24^th, 2011 at 9:52am:

Weren't there a few local Muslims asking for shariah courts a while back? I agree with Abu. The price of freedom is eternal vigilance.

Why do we have diplomatic relations with a country that does this?
We have no principles in Australia - at least the politicians don't.

freediver wrote on Sep 24^th, 2011 at 9:52am:

Weren't there a few local Muslims asking for shariah courts a while back?

Yeh I heard there's also some people asking for us to enter into an alliance with inhabitants of an M class planet in Orion, think it might be happening soon? Should we begin preparing?


freediver wrote on Sep 24^th, 2011 at 9:52am:

I agree with Abu. The price of freedom is eternal vigilance.

Err no, that wasn't my point. My point was that the suggestion that some guy who was brought on Today Tonight to bump up the ratings talking about Shari'ah law in Australia does not mean if you just turn your head for a few moments, it might just slip into place.

Honestly, you people are half wits. Go and ask a senator how hard it is to get legislation passed, even when half the country wants it, yet you think one guy who comes on Today Tonight is going to just breeze it through. You're not all there, seriously.

Quote:

Yeh I heard there's also some people asking for us to enter into an alliance with inhabitants of an M class planet in Orion, think it might be happening soon? Should we begin preparing?

No I do not think it is going to happen precisely because Australians are so quick to ridicule the plans of these Muslims. That doesn't mean we are over-reacting in criticising them. It is the appropriate way to respond.


Quote:

Err no, that wasn't my point.

That's OK. You were still right, even if it was inadvertant.


Quote:

My point was that the suggestion that some guy who was brought on Today Tonight to bump up the ratings talking about Shari'ah law in Australia does not mean if you just turn your head for a few moments, it might just slip into place.

I'm glad you sorted that out Abu. Any change of snappiong back to reality now?

Are you sad that rapists get caned in Malaysia?

No

freediver wrote on Sep 24^th, 2011 at 12:48pm:

Quote: Yeh I heard there's also some people asking for us to enter into an alliance with inhabitants of an M class planet in Orion, think it might be happening soon? Should we begin preparing? No I do not think it is going to happen precisely because Australians are so quick to ridicule the plans of these Muslims. That doesn't mean we are over-reacting in criticising them. It is the appropriate way to respond.

So in your delusion, if it weren't for the "quick ridicule" of the Aussies, Muslims would just *hey presto* start implementing Shari'ah law?

No. But what I am saying is that unless the public actively defends freedom and democracy - from all those who would destroy it, not just muslims - then it will inevitably be taken away.

Abu we do not criticise you because we think you might actually succeed in your ambitions to have apostates stoned to death etc. Rather, we criticise what you post because what you post is stupid. You cannot expect to be able to use your own impotence as a defence for what you write.

freediver wrote on Sep 24^th, 2011 at 2:03pm:

No. But what I am saying is that unless the public actively defends freedom and democracy - from all those who would destroy it, not just muslims - then it will inevitably be taken away. Abu we do not criticise you because we think you might actually succeed in your ambitions to have apostates stoned to death etc. Rather, we criticise what you post because what you post is stupid. You cannot expect to be able to use your own impotence as a defence for what you write.

Well said Freediver.
We have to be forever vigilant against these barbaric people
who would dearly love to cane everyone's backside.

Bobby. wrote on Sep 24^th, 2011 at 9:05am:

Watch this video. This is what Muslims want here in Australia. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l8kZSeeZqe0

I get 20 lashes from my wife if I change the tv channel without her permission. If I make her a coffee and it isn't to her liking she pours the coffee over me and then take to me with a baseball bat. Sure it's hard being a New Age Muslim but my relationship with my wife and her three other husbands is very strong. New Age Islam promotes family harmony.

The question is - does Abu support the caning in the video?

What did the guy do?

freediver wrote on Sep 26^th, 2011 at 9:40pm:

What did the guy do?

It doesn't say what he did.
I know that they meter out punishment like that for minor crimes
like drinking beer or smoking a cigarette.
If he was a murderer I could understand it but really in that case
why not hang him? - at least he couldn't do it again.

Bobby. wrote on Sep 26^th, 2011 at 11:48pm:

freediver wrote on Sep 26th, 2011 at 9:40pm: What did the guy do? ...or smoking a cigarette...

Yeh smoking's not allowed in Malaysia... good one, you're so full of it batboy. Maybe if you're an Orangutan. My guess is you probably read this story, and thought it meant smoking is forbidden, half wit.

abu_rashid wrote on Sep 27^th, 2011 at 7:01am:

Bobby. wrote on Sep 26th, 2011 at 11:48pm: freediver wrote on Sep 26th, 2011 at 9:40pm: What did the guy do? ...or smoking a cigarette... Yeh smoking's not allowed in Malaysia... good one, you're so full of it batboy. Maybe if you're an Orangutan. My guess is you probably read this story, and thought it meant smoking is forbidden, half wit.

Abu,
You didn't answer my question - & don't call me a half wit - you half wit.

Why answer the question when he can deflect with more insults towards non-Muslims?

freediver wrote on Sep 27^th, 2011 at 9:52pm:

Why answer the question when he can deflect with more insults towards non-Muslims?

Abu has been caught out time & time again having to defend barbaric Muslim practices.
He can't defend it so he attacks the questioner.
He knows it's wrong but he won't admit it.

Abu - you need to forget your faith & rely on your own true feelings.
Your faith has blinded you & you don't want to see the light.
You are a victim of religion which has controlled your free will to think clearly.
You can be deprogrammed to think for yourself.
You can be saved from a wasted life.
You only have to ask for help & we'll all explain it to you - gladly.

Still no answer from Abu.

waiting waiting waiting waiting waiting waiting waiting waiting
waiting waiting waiting waiting waiting waiting waiting waiting  ::)

Sorry, you mean there was a point to this thread... and a question?

Please restate, I missed it amongst all the fabrications and propaganda.

abu_rashid wrote on Oct 2^nd, 2011 at 6:24pm:

Sorry, you mean there was a point to this thread... and a question? Please restate, I missed it amongst all the fabrications and propaganda.

The only reason I read this sub forum is to see how you justify your denial Abu.

abu_rashid wrote on Oct 2^nd, 2011 at 6:24pm:

Sorry, you mean there was a point to this thread... and a question? Please restate, I missed it amongst all the fabrications and propaganda.

The question is - does Abu support the caning in the video?

Haven't watched the video, so couldn't say.

Generally speaking though, my opinion on the issue is moot, as I don't believe Malaysia is a valid state, and therefore neither support nor oppose any punishments they dish out. My opinion on Malaysia is focused on the issue of their invalid leadership being replaced by an Islamic Caliphate, not on whether I personally like or dislike any particular law/punishment they might have. For me that's the only issue that has any relevance regarding Malaysia.

abu_rashid wrote on Oct 2^nd, 2011 at 11:14pm:

Haven't watched the video, so couldn't say. Generally speaking though, my opinion on the issue is moot, as I don't believe Malaysia is a valid state, and therefore neither support nor oppose any punishments they dish out. My opinion on Malaysia is focused on the issue of their invalid leadership being replaced by an Islamic Caliphate, not on whether I personally like or dislike any particular law/punishment they might have. For me that's the only issue that has any relevance regarding Malaysia.

I understand now -
if it was a valid Islamic Caliphate then the barbaric caning would be O.K.

Abu supports barbaric caning & he was
too gutless to watch the video of his holy laws in action.

Bobby what he means it that the barbaric punishment is OK, so long as you have the correct paperwork filled out. There'll be none of this dragging someone into a dark alley and shooting them in the head. You fill out the paperwork, then drag them into a dark alley and shoot them in the head.

Yeh just like how Western democrats don't go around frying people's brains out willy nilly, they do the paperwork, [let them sweat on death row for a coupla years] then fry their brains out....

Would it be better to get it over and done with quickly Abu?

I really don't understand what you're driving at with that one fd.

Clarify your intentions please.

The question is - does Abu support the caning in the video?

abu_rashid wrote on Oct 4^th, 2011 at 6:01am:

I really don't understand what you're driving at with that one fd. Clarify your intentions please.

I was just trying to see if there was anything more to this comment:


Quote:

let them sweat on death row for a coupla years

freediver wrote on Oct 4^th, 2011 at 10:53am:

abu_rashid wrote on Oct 4th, 2011 at 6:01am: I really don't understand what you're driving at with that one fd. Clarify your intentions please. I was just trying to see if there was anything more to this comment: Quote: let them sweat on death row for a coupla years

No wonder the Yanks had to waterboard these types to get answers out of them.
They will not answer a direct simple question.

Hi Abu,
Did you actually watch the video which started this thread?

I support the caning of rapists.

Anyone here against caning rapists? Perhaps you think the Australian way of treating rapists is better - TVs,  playstations, gourmet food, computers, internet, etc during their short stay in comfortable prison farms?

Just read in todays AGE - front page!
Actress in Iran who starred in an Aussie film to receive 90 lashes - crime is acting.

Does Abu approve?

Iran is not a Muslim country. It is run by people who are non-Muslims - The shia clergy of Iran are not considered Muslims by the 90% of Muslims.

The majority of the country come from the strange Shia sect. 90% of Muslims follow mainstream Islam, while Iran is a basket case that comprises most of the remainder.

Holding up Iran as an example of a "Muslim" country, is a bit like holding up Mormon Utah as a  "Christian state" - even though Mormons believe that joseph Smith was an American prophet who lived in the 19th century, and they even have a new Bible.

falah wrote on Oct 11^th, 2011 at 2:26pm:

Iran is not a Muslim country. It is run by people who are non-Muslims - The shia clergy of Iran are not considered Muslims by the 90% of Muslims. The majority of the country come from the strange Shia sect. 90% of Muslims follow mainstream Islam, while Iran is a basket case that comprises most of the remainder.

My friend, this is most unfair. We are all Muslim brothers, isn't it?

So acting is not a crime for a female under Islamic law?

freediver wrote on Oct 11^th, 2011 at 6:47pm:

So acting is not a crime for a female under Islamic law?

Acting in a film which shows up the Iranian regime is a crime.
Truth is a crime punishable by 90 lashes.
I think I would rather die than have to go through 90 lashes.
The video in this thread shows only about 10 lashes & is barbaric enough.

Does Abu support this horror?

I prefer a good stoning myself.

youtube.com/watch?v=MIaORknS1Dk

Whats with this one posts crap?

And or this stoned

youtube.com/watch?v=BlD08D_72RM&feature=fvwrel

Adamant - try to take the topic seriously -

it's hardly a place for comedy sketches from Monty Python.

Abject apologies Bobby!
I consider myself to have been severely chastised, and to do further penance I will flagellate myself profusely as the Missis is out at the moment.

Adamant wrote on Oct 25^th, 2011 at 12:10am:

Abject apologies Bobby! I consider myself to have been severely chastised, and to do further penance I will flagellate myself profusely as the Missis is out at the moment.

Adamant -
You are forgiven with very much love.
And so it is.
Namaste.

The question still is - does Abu support the caning in the video?

Bobby. wrote on Oct 25^th, 2011 at 6:38am:

Adamant wrote on Oct 25th, 2011 at 12:10am: Abject apologies Bobby! I consider myself to have been severely chastised, and to do further penance I will flagellate myself profusely as the Missis is out at the moment. Adamant - You are forgiven with very much love. And so it is. Namaste. The question still is - does Abu support the caning in the video?

Sorry Bobbie but Abu seems to have gone AWOL on your question. In the interim I post news of a stoning from that Muslim loving country, Afghanistan! I am sure that Abu’s creative literary juices will start to flow after reading this! Salivating is a term that springs to mind.

A group of armed men have stoned and shot dead a woman and her daughter in Afghanistan's Ghazni province, security officials have told the BBC.The officials blamed the Taliban, who they said had accused the women of "moral deviation and adultery". The police said two men had been arrested in connection with the murder. The attack was only 300m from the governor's office in Ghazni city, which is on a list of places to be transferred to Afghan security control.
The incident happened on Thursday in the Khawaja Hakim area of Ghazni city, where the family lived. The BBC's Bilal Sarwary in Kabul says it is close to the governor's office, the police chief's office and a Western-backed Provincial Reconstruction Team.
BBC News, Kabul
There are 18 districts in Ghazni. Seven are in government control. In 11 the government only exists inside the district headquarters. In much of the region, the Taliban are taxing people and banning girls from schools. Joint weddings have been banned - the bride and groom are not allowed to be together as it is thought the woman makes too much noise walking to the wedding hall, disturbing the men. The Taliban are killing and imprisoning people who work for the government. They control all of the major roads. Drivers are regularly beaten. There are instances where district officials have been beheaded. The Taliban have banned mobile phones, video cameras and music apart from Taliban radio stations playing hypnotic chants. Security officials said armed men entered the house where the young widow lived with her daughter and took them out to the yard, where they were initially stoned and then shot dead. "Neighbours did not help or inform the authorities on time," an official said.
Officials said a number of religious leaders in the city had been issuing fatwas (Islamic religious edicts) asking people to report any one who was "involved in adultery". In October last year, a woman accused of murdering her mother-in-law was killed by the Taliban in Ghazni. Ghazni has seen an upsurge in violence in recent years.
Strategically located on the route between Kabul and Kandahar, the province was once a centre of trade.
Ghazni city is on the list for the second tranche of areas to be transferred from Nato to Afghan control but critics say the government is struggling to secure it.

Can be found BBS news

Thanks Adam. In future please include the URL/link when copying and pasting.

One of the members here, I think it was Falah or Les, said that Afghanistan under Taliban rule prior to invasion was the only true Islamic state at the time. Abu seems to think it was pretty close.

freediver wrote on Nov 12^th, 2011 at 9:25am:

Thanks Adam. In future please include the URL/link when copying and pasting. One of the members here, I think it was Falah or Les, said that Afghanistan under Taliban rule prior to invasion was the only true Islamic state at the time. Abu seems to think it was pretty close.

I am sorry but I seem not to be able to create a hot link until I have  100 posted items do not know why so I do not bother.

The question still is - does Abu support the caning in the video I posted?


Still no answer after ages!   :-X

Bobby. wrote on Nov 12^th, 2011 at 2:43pm:

The question still is - does Abu support the caning in the video I posted? Still no answer after ages!   :-X

Dear Bobbie

I have told you ABU is AWOL. He must subscribe to the old adage " He who fights and runs away lives to fight another day".
It would of course help if you had a tea towel on your head, no chance of recognition.

Adamant wrote on Nov 12^th, 2011 at 3:00pm:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 12th, 2011 at 2:43pm: The question still is - does Abu support the caning in the video I posted? Still no answer after ages!   :-X Dear Bobbie I have told you ABU is AWOL. He must subscribe to the old adage " He who fights and runs away lives to fight another day". It would of course help if you had a tea towel on your head, no chance of recognition.

I am not surprised.
He gets rubbished every day with his primitive bronze age religion.

Adamant wrote on Nov 12^th, 2011 at 2:37pm:

freediver wrote on Nov 12th, 2011 at 9:25am: Thanks Adam. In future please include the URL/link when copying and pasting. One of the members here, I think it was Falah or Les, said that Afghanistan under Taliban rule prior to invasion was the only true Islamic state at the time. Abu seems to think it was pretty close. I am sorry but I seem not to be able to create a hot link until I have  100 posted items do not know why so I do not bother.

Just copy and paste the URL then. Technically what you are doing is copyright theft. The least you can do is plug the site you got it from.

Done deal Freediver

freediver wrote on Nov 12^th, 2011 at 9:25am:

Thanks Adam. In future please include the URL/link when copying and pasting. One of the members here, I think it was Falah or Les, said that Afghanistan under Taliban rule prior to invasion was the only true Islamic state at the time. Abu seems to think it was pretty close.

I am sure it was an Islamic state and it appears it still is!



KABUL: Human rights group Amnesty International said Wednesday that Afghan Taliban leader Mullah Omar’s call for fighters to reduce civilian casualties was “hypocritical”.

Amnesty said the statement issued in Omar’s name last week to mark the Muslim holiday of Eidul Azha was “more about propaganda and less about actually protecting civilians”.

There were two major attacks in Afghanistan during Eid, which were blamed on the Taliban and left many civilians dead.

The United Nations says the Taliban is responsible for the vast majority of civilian deaths in the ten-year Afghan war between Taliban-led insurgents and international and Afghan government forces.

“The Afghan people would welcome any genuine effort to reduce civilian casualties,” said Sam Zarifi, Amnesty International’s Asia Pacific director, in a statement issued on the organisation’s website.

“However, Mullah Omar’s message seems hypocritical, as it is more about propaganda and less about actually protecting civilians. He suggests that the majority of civilian casualties are accidental and could be avoided if Afghans kept away from foreign troops.

“He doesn’t order his commanders to halt targeted assassinations, or stop using suicide bombers or improvised explosive devices in civilian areas.”

On Friday, the Taliban published a statement on their website attributed to Omar which called on fighters “to take every step to protect the lives and wealth of ordinary people”.

The statement warned of punishments under Islamic Sharia law for insurgents responsible for civilian deaths.

But on Sunday, a Taliban suicide bomber killed seven people returning from prayers at a mosque in the northern city of Baghlan.

And on Monday, nine civilians from one family plus two policemen were killed when a roadside bomb struck their vehicle in northwest Afghanistan.

The UN has said that the number of civilians killed in the Afghan war in the first half of this year rose 15 percent to 1,462, with insurgents responsible for 80 percent of the deaths.

tribune.com.pk/story/289237/taliban-call-to-limit-civilian-casualties-hypocritical/