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Title: Israeli scientist discovers the 'impossible'
Post by Yadda on Oct 6^th, 2011 at 11:37am

Its official, an Israeli scientist discovers the impossible.

Discovery of 'impossible' chemical structure wins Nobel prize for Israeli
October 06, 2011 12:00AM
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/health-science/discovery-of-impossible-chemical-structure-wins-nobel-prize-for-israeli/story-e6frg8y6-1226159694355

The free imagination of this Israeli allowed him to conceive of, and to discover, something, a structure in nature, which others said was impossible.

Is this trait [a willingness to seek for truth] in [many] Jews, why disproportionately Jewish people [culturally, intellectually, technologically] have achieved so much in the world ?

Google;
nobel prize winners jews

Google;
nobel prizes jews versus muslims

Q.
Do we need to envy and hate Jews, because God has blessed them ?

A.
Ask a moslem.

Title: Re: Israeli scientist discovers the 'impossible'
Post by chicken_lipsforme on Oct 6^th, 2011 at 11:52am

He stated on this mornings ABC radio program that he had suffered from years and years of ridicule from his peers who did not share in his beleif, only to finally end up leading a research team to finally make his discovery.
Who's laughing now.

So what's the scorecard now Yadda, Israeli Nobel prize winners vs
the Palestinian Nobel prize winners? :)

Title: Re: Israeli scientist discovers the 'impossible'
Post by Soren on Oct 6^th, 2011 at 11:55am

Oh yeah?? What's the big deal? A muslim can believe six impossible thing before breakfast.
Beat that, infidel dog!

Title: Re: Israeli scientist discovers the 'impossible'
Post by Yadda on Oct 6^th, 2011 at 12:03pm

Soren wrote on Oct 6^th, 2011 at 11:55am:

Oh yeah?? What's the big deal? A muslim can believe six impossible thing before breakfast.
Beat that, infidel dog!

LOL

+++

chicken...
"So what's the scorecard now Yadda, Israeli Nobel prize winners vs
the Palestinian Nobel prize winners?"

Well, i am sure that there is a list, an 'accounting', on the net somewhere. ;)

Title: Re: Israeli scientist discovers the 'impossible'
Post by Soren on Oct 6^th, 2011 at 12:11pm

Muslims don't need no stinkin' man-made science (aka jooo invention and distortion) when it's all been revealed in the Koran - I'm sorry, Q'ur'an' - centuries ago.

Title: Re: Israeli scientist discovers the 'impossible'
Post by Yadda on Oct 6^th, 2011 at 12:39pm

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Oct 6^th, 2011 at 11:52am:

As the good book says....

Luke 7:35
But wisdom is justified of all her children.

Title: Re: Israeli scientist discovers the 'impossible'
Post by darkhall67 on Oct 6^th, 2011 at 2:33pm

Hilarious that you Yadda are championing science.

Title: Re: Israeli scientist discovers the 'impossible'
Post by Kytro on Oct 6^th, 2011 at 2:43pm

Soren wrote on Oct 6^th, 2011 at 12:11pm:

Muslims don't need no stinkin' man-made science (aka jooo invention and distortion) when it's all been revealed in the Koran - I'm sorry, Q'ur'an' - centuries ago.

You realise Islamic scholars came up with many discoveries that helped form the basis of modern scientific inquiry, don't you?

It's a pity it isn't as important to them as it once was.

Title: Re: Israeli scientist discovers the 'impossible'
Post by Yadda on Oct 6^th, 2011 at 2:45pm

darkhall67 wrote on Oct 6^th, 2011 at 2:33pm:

Hilarious that you Yadda are championing science.

From your perspective, no doubt.

But you are mistaken.

I do not turn away from truth [when the truth confronts me].

I am not an ideologue.

I love the truth.

Dictionary;
ideologue = = a dogmatic or uncompromising adherent of an ideology.

Title: Re: Israeli scientist discovers the 'impossible'
Post by darkhall67 on Oct 6^th, 2011 at 2:46pm

Yadda wrote on Oct 6^th, 2011 at 2:45pm:

darkhall67 wrote on Oct 6^th, 2011 at 2:33pm:

Hilarious that you Yadda are championing science.

So you're a believer in evolution then?

Super.

Title: Re: Israeli scientist discovers the 'impossible'
Post by Yadda on Oct 6^th, 2011 at 2:48pm

Kytro wrote on Oct 6^th, 2011 at 2:43pm:

Soren wrote on Oct 6^th, 2011 at 12:11pm:

Muslims don't need no stinkin' man-made science (aka jooo invention and distortion) when it's all been revealed in the Koran - I'm sorry, Q'ur'an' - centuries ago.

You realise Islamic scholars came up with many discoveries that helped form the basis of modern scientific inquiry, don't you?

It's a pity it isn't as important to them as it once was.

LOL

That is what >> moslems << tell us.

Does history not teach us, that moslems ALWAYS lie, that moslems have ALWAYS lied, about their own history ?

Title: Re: Israeli scientist discovers the 'impossible'
Post by Yadda on Oct 6^th, 2011 at 2:55pm

darkhall67 wrote on Oct 6^th, 2011 at 2:46pm:

Yadda wrote on Oct 6^th, 2011 at 2:45pm:

darkhall67 wrote on Oct 6^th, 2011 at 2:33pm:

Hilarious that you Yadda are championing science.

So you're a believer in evolution then?

Super.

....whoooooosh....

Wow!

A pig just flew past my window!!!

Honest.

Title: Re: Israeli scientist discovers the 'impossible'
Post by Yadda on Oct 6^th, 2011 at 3:13pm

Yadda wrote on Oct 6^th, 2011 at 2:48pm:

Kytro wrote on Oct 6^th, 2011 at 2:43pm:

Soren wrote on Oct 6^th, 2011 at 12:11pm:

Muslims don't need no stinkin' man-made science (aka jooo invention and distortion) when it's all been revealed in the Koran - I'm sorry, Q'ur'an' - centuries ago.

You realise Islamic scholars came up with many discoveries that helped form the basis of modern scientific inquiry, don't you?

It's a pity it isn't as important to them as it once was.

LOL

That is what >> moslems << tell us.

Does history not teach us, that moslems ALWAYS lie, that moslems have ALWAYS lied, about their own history ?

Google;
science, muslim lies

Google;
science, muslims invented computer chip

+++

Not relating to science, but an example of the shamelessness of false moslem claims...

According to moslems, today, the historic account of a 'Jewish' temple in Jerusalem, was myth, a lie, 'made up', fabricated, by Jews.

Those temples were moslem temples.

And the ISLAMIC evidence for such claims ???

They, moslems, say it is so.

And moslems would never, ever, lie!!
/sarc off

Chief Muslim claims Jewish Temples never existed
March 15, 2007
"....The Jewish Temples never existed.......descriptions of the Jewish Temples in the Hebrew Tanach, in the Talmud and in Byzantine and Roman writings from the Temple periods were forged, and that the Torah was falsified to claim Biblical patriarchs and matriarchs were Jewish when indeed they were prophets for Islam."
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=40628

Temple Mount '100% Islamic'
June 01, 2008
"....Taysir Tamimi, chief Palestinian Justice and one of the most influential Muslim leaders in Israel, argued the Jewish Temples never existed,...."
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=65919

Title: Re: Israeli scientist discovers the 'impossible'
Post by Kytro on Oct 6^th, 2011 at 3:23pm

Yadda wrote on Oct 6^th, 2011 at 2:48pm:

LOL

That is what >> moslems << tell us.

Does history not teach us, that moslems ALWAYS lie, that moslems have ALWAYS lied, about their own history ?

Not just moslems.

Here is a timeline from Wikipedia

It is pretty clear they contributed fairly significantly to human knowledge at the time.

Title: Re: Israeli scientist discovers the 'impossible'
Post by pansi1951 on Oct 6^th, 2011 at 3:26pm

Israeli scientist discovers the 'impossible'

I had to look. I thought they might have found unsettled Palestinian land on the Gaza strip.

Title: Re: Israeli scientist discovers the 'impossible'
Post by Yadda on Oct 6^th, 2011 at 3:46pm

Kytro wrote on Oct 6^th, 2011 at 3:23pm:

Yadda wrote on Oct 6^th, 2011 at 2:48pm:

LOL

That is what >> moslems << tell us.

Does history not teach us, that moslems ALWAYS lie, that moslems have ALWAYS lied, about their own history ?

Not just moslems.

Here is a timeline from Wikipedia

It is pretty clear they contributed fairly significantly to human knowledge at the time.

"19th century
With the adoption of European science in the 19th and 20th centuries, the concept of Islamic science rapidly loses significance."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_Islamic_science_and_technology#19th_century

Kytro,

Bizarre isn't it ???

How that, within the realms of recent modern history, no new moslem scientific accomplishments are recorded.

Hmmmm.

Is it because no modern claims of moslem scientific accomplishments, [if they were falsely made] could have any chance of being substantiated ???

Whereas, in a time when moslems were allowed to write the account of their own history......

Dictionary;
substantiate = = provide evidence to support or prove the truth of.

Title: Re: Israeli scientist discovers the 'impossible'
Post by darkhall67 on Oct 6^th, 2011 at 4:00pm

Yadda wrote on Oct 6^th, 2011 at 2:55pm:

darkhall67 wrote on Oct 6^th, 2011 at 2:46pm:

Yadda wrote on Oct 6^th, 2011 at 2:45pm:

darkhall67 wrote on Oct 6^th, 2011 at 2:33pm:

Hilarious that you Yadda are championing science.

So you're a believer in evolution then?

Super.

....whoooooosh....

Wow!

A pig just flew past my window!!!

Honest.

Aaaaah so you are selective with the truths you dont turn away from.

Title: Re: Israeli scientist discovers the 'impossible'
Post by darkhall67 on Oct 6^th, 2011 at 4:01pm

Yadda wrote on Oct 6^th, 2011 at 2:48pm:

Kytro wrote on Oct 6^th, 2011 at 2:43pm:

Soren wrote on Oct 6^th, 2011 at 12:11pm:

Muslims don't need no stinkin' man-made science (aka jooo invention and distortion) when it's all been revealed in the Koran - I'm sorry, Q'ur'an' - centuries ago.

You realise Islamic scholars came up with many discoveries that helped form the basis of modern scientific inquiry, don't you?

It's a pity it isn't as important to them as it once was.

LOL

That is what >> moslems << tell us.

Does history not teach us, that moslems ALWAYS lie, that moslems have ALWAYS lied, about their own history ?

So much hate.

Title: Re: Israeli scientist discovers the 'impossible'
Post by darkhall67 on Oct 6^th, 2011 at 4:04pm

Yadda wrote on Oct 6^th, 2011 at 3:46pm:

Kytro wrote on Oct 6^th, 2011 at 3:23pm:

Yadda wrote on Oct 6^th, 2011 at 2:48pm:

LOL

That is what >> moslems << tell us.

Does history not teach us, that moslems ALWAYS lie, that moslems have ALWAYS lied, about their own history ?

Not just moslems.

Here is a timeline from Wikipedia

It is pretty clear they contributed fairly significantly to human knowledge at the time.

So what?

How many papua newguinians have won the nobel prize?

How many africans have won the nobel prize?

Only 41 women have won the nobel prize since 1941.

Why dont you reign down your scorn , hatred and feelings of superiority on those groups?

Title: Re: Israeli scientist discovers the 'impossible'
Post by Yadda on Oct 6^th, 2011 at 4:05pm

darkhall67 wrote on Oct 6^th, 2011 at 4:00pm:

Aaaaah so you are selective with the truths you dont turn away from.

What is the truth, which you claim that i am turning away from ?

And what is the substantiation of that truth ?

Title: Re: Israeli scientist discovers the 'impossible'
Post by darkhall67 on Oct 6^th, 2011 at 4:06pm

And what's probably a more relevant question is;

How many christian fundamentalists have won the nobel prize?

Title: Re: Israeli scientist discovers the 'impossible'
Post by darkhall67 on Oct 6^th, 2011 at 4:09pm

Yadda wrote on Oct 6^th, 2011 at 4:05pm:

darkhall67 wrote on Oct 6^th, 2011 at 4:00pm:

Aaaaah so you are selective with the truths you dont turn away from.

What is the truth, which you claim that i am turning away from ?

And what is the substantiation of that truth ?

You know very well.

Evolution is the accepted scientific theory for how humans (and all life ) came to be.

The theory conforms to ALL scientific disciplines .

But you have been confronted with THAT truth before havent you?

And still you believe in magical explanations.

No truth confronter you.

I deride your truth confronting abilities.

Title: Re: Israeli scientist discovers the 'impossible'
Post by Baronvonrort on Oct 6^th, 2011 at 5:46pm

Kytro wrote on Oct 6^th, 2011 at 3:23pm:

Yadda wrote on Oct 6^th, 2011 at 2:48pm:

LOL

That is what >> moslems << tell us.

Does history not teach us, that moslems ALWAYS lie, that moslems have ALWAYS lied, about their own history ?

Not just moslems.

Here is a timeline from Wikipedia

It is pretty clear they contributed fairly significantly to human knowledge at the time.

If you seek the truth then turn your bullshit detector on when the topic is Islam.

I disagree that muslims have contributed "significantly" to knowledge, what has been invented by muslims since electricity was discovered, they would literally be still in the dark if it wasnt for the enlightened west.

Your wiki list contains so many errors i could be here all day correcting them.

There is a Persian scholar Razi in that list who was an atheist he wrote a few books on religion.
A little bit on Razi from the Pakistani atheists and agnostics should leave no doubt on whether Razi thought Islam was a load of horse manure or true-
http://www.e-paa.org/articles/freethinkers-history-muhammad-ibn-zakariya-al-razi

The first guy on the list was muslim yet his stuff comes from a Indian after the muslims conquered India this wiki article explains how his great works were translated into arabic by muslims,it was pre islamic work.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aryabhata

Omar Khayam and many others listed on your wiki link were atheists.

What gets even more interesting is look how many Persian Islamic scholars are on that list compared to arab scholars,the vast majority of them are Persian.
Falah said-

Quote:

Iran is a shi-ite country,not muslim

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1314074379/2#2

I caught Abu Rashid the moderator of the Islam section telling lies by claiming Ibn Sina was a muslim despite the fact many Islamic scholars declared he was ahteist!
Thread here you might understand why Abu banned me from his wankfest forum of fluent bullshit -
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1312088017

Abdus Salam won the first nobel prize for a muslim- he worked on Pakistans nuclear program,he was from the ahmadi sect do some homework on him.

Title: Re: Israeli scientist discovers the 'impossible'
Post by Soren on Oct 6^th, 2011 at 6:36pm

darkhall67 wrote on Oct 6^th, 2011 at 4:04pm:

How many papua newguinians have won the nobel prize?

How many africans have won the nobel prize?

Only 41 women have won the nobel prize since 1941.

Why dont you reign down your scorn , hatred and feelings of superiority on those groups?

Because they are not advocating world domination and are not waging violant, deadly jihad on buses, tubes, trains, in bars and restaurants, schools universities, markets and ordinary streets around the world to achieve it.

Why else did you think Islam is ridiculed and scorned?

Title: Re: Israeli scientist discovers the 'impossible'
Post by freediver on Oct 6^th, 2011 at 7:29pm

Yadda wrote on Oct 6^th, 2011 at 11:37am:

You are being unfair Yadda. Just ask Abu about the Muslim guy who contributed to our knowledge of flight by jumping of the tallest building he could find with feathers glued to his arms. He was the first person to prove that you definitely cannot fly just by glueing feathers to your arms. I bet he did not win a nobel prize, or even an ignobel one. This and many other examples of great Muslim scientists (all 7 of them) are listed in Abu's 'Islam and science' thread.

Title: Re: Israeli scientist discovers the 'impossible'
Post by dsmithy70 on Oct 6^th, 2011 at 7:30pm

freediver wrote on Oct 6^th, 2011 at 7:29pm:

Yadda wrote on Oct 6^th, 2011 at 11:37am:

Maybe a Darwin though ;)

Title: Re: Israeli scientist discovers the 'impossible'
Post by Soren on Oct 6^th, 2011 at 9:06pm

freediver wrote on Oct 6^th, 2011 at 7:29pm:

A typical case of Muslims mishearing and misunderstanding. The guy heard about the myth of Daedalos and Ikaros, thought he'd do better than those stinkin' pagan polytheist Greeks (insh'allah, always insh'allah) and so he hurled himslef off a tall building. Allah not insh.
Still, I thing there should be more such Muslim expetimental scientists

Title: Re: Israeli scientist discovers the 'impossible'
Post by falah on Oct 6^th, 2011 at 11:24pm

How many of us would even be alive today without the Muslim invention of the vaccination?

In 1718, Lady Mary Wortley Montagu reported that the Turks had a tradition of deliberately inoculating themselves with fluid taken from mild cases of smallpox, and that she had inoculated her own children.
http://mmbr.asm.org/cgi/reprint/47/4/455?view=long&pmid=6319980

20 Greatest Innovations by Muslims
http://www.wonderfulinfo.com/winfo/muslminv.php

Muslim inventions that shaped the modern world
http://edition.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/meast/01/29/muslim.inventions/index.html?hpt=C2

http://www.muslimheritage.com/

Title: Re: Israeli scientist discovers the 'impossible'
Post by falah on Oct 6^th, 2011 at 11:52pm

Anyway it is well-known that Israelis like to produce chemicals:

World's biggest ecstasy dealer nabbed Rio

An Israeli believed to be the world's biggest dealer of ecstasy was arrested Saturday on a beach in Rio de Janeiro, Brazilian police announced.

http://www.monstersandcritics.com/news/americas/news/article_1236335.php/World_s_biggest_ecstasy_dealer_nabbed_Rio

Israelis are also known for their expertise in organ transplants:

Israeli organ trafficking ring arrested

Israeli police arrested six men from northern Israel accused of being involved in an organ trafficking ring.

The suspects, including a military brigadier general and two attorneys, were arrested Wednesday, according to reports. The ring allegedly identified potential organ donors through advertisements promising up to $100,000 in exchange for their kidneys. Some were reportedly paid $10,000 and others nothing at all. The transplants took place in Ecuador, Azerbaijan and the Philippines, under substandard medical supervision. Some of the donors are still suffering from medical complications.

http://www.jta.org/news/article/2010/04/08/1011493/israeli-organ-trafficking-ring-arrested

FBI sting exposes organ-trafficking ring

Levy Izhak Rosenbaum, 58, of Brooklyn, N.Y., second from left, is taken into the back of the federal courthouse in Newark, N.J., on Thursday, arrested on corruption charges.

Levy Izhak Rosenbaum of Brooklyn called himself a "matchmaker," but his business wasn't romance. Instead, authorities say, he brokered the sale of black-market kidneys, buying organs from vulnerable people from Israel for $10,000 and selling them to desperate patients in the United States for as much as $160,000.

The alleged scheme, exposed last week by an FBI sting, rocked the nation's transplant industry. If true, it would be the first documented case of organ trafficking in the United States, transplant experts said Friday.

"I am what you call a matchmaker," Rosenbaum said in a secretly recorded conversation. "I bring a guy what I believe, he's suitable for your uncle." Asked how many organs he had brokered, he said "quite a lot," the most recent two weeks earlier.

As part of the scheme, which authorities say had gone on for a decade, the organ donors were brought from Israel to this country, where they underwent surgery to remove the kidneys, authorities said. Prosecutors did not identify which hospitals in the United States received the donors and their kidneys.

http://www.cleveland.com/nation/index.ssf/2009/07/fbi_sting_exposes_organtraffic.html

Rabbis who ran 'Soprano' syndicate are held by FBI

Dozens of New Jersey politicians, officials and prominent rabbis have been arrested in an FBI swoop on a Sopranos-style syndicate accused of bribery, corruption, money laundering and human organ trafficking.

Three city mayors, two state politicians and a grand rabbi were among the 44 suspects arrested in one of the biggest crackdowns on organised white-collar crime.

The 10-year investigation, Operation Bid Rig, uncovered corruption and an international multi-million-dollar money-laundering ring stretching from New York to Israel and run through charities operated by rabbis.

The complex web of corruption and back-handers led the informant to a separate money-laundering network run by rabbis who operated between Brooklyn, New Jersey, and Israel. They laundered around $3 million for the undercover witness between June 2007 and this month, according to investigators.

Allegedly involved are Saul Kassin, chief rabbi of a large Syrian Jewish synagogue in Brooklyn, and three other leading rabbis. The investigation also uncovered Levy Izhak Rosenbaum of Brooklyn, who is accused of conspiring to broker the sale of a human kidney for a transplant.

Mr Marra said: "His business was to entice vulnerable people to give up a kidney for $10,000 which he would turn around and sell for $160,000."

http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/article-23723677-world-rabbis-who-ran-soprano-syndicate-are-held-by-fbi.do

Title: Re: Israeli scientist discovers the 'impossible'
Post by Aussie Skinhead on Oct 7^th, 2011 at 1:24am

Islam, Judaism and Christianity are the enemies of the White European Race.

Any real Jew living in Australia should naturally want to go to their "holly land".

Any true Muslim or Arab should naturall want to go to Palestine or where ever and fight the non-believers.

GET THE HELL OUT OF MY COUNTRY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Title: Re: Israeli scientist discovers the 'impossible'
Post by helian on Oct 7^th, 2011 at 3:54am

Aussie Skinhead wrote on Oct 7^th, 2011 at 1:24am:

Islam, Judaism and Christianity are the enemies of the White European Race.

Ahh, no... The history and culture of the European 'race' (whatever that is) for 2000 years has been inextricably linked with Christianity. Even your old mate Hitler admired Luther.

Aussie Skinhead wrote on Oct 7^th, 2011 at 1:24am:

Any real Jew living in Australia should naturally want to go to their "holly land".

Not that I'd want to go there... Have you ever run smack into a holly tree? ;D

Aussie Skinhead wrote on Oct 7^th, 2011 at 1:24am:

GET THE HELL OUT OF MY COUNTRY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Pardon us all, Your Majesty ;D

Title: Re: Israeli scientist discovers the 'impossible'
Post by chicken_lipsforme on Oct 7^th, 2011 at 6:45am

Is it school holidays?

Title: Re: Israeli scientist discovers the 'impossible'
Post by Yadda on Oct 7^th, 2011 at 7:23am

darkhall67 wrote on Oct 6^th, 2011 at 4:01pm:

Yadda wrote on Oct 6^th, 2011 at 2:48pm:

Does history not teach us, that moslems ALWAYS lie, that moslems have ALWAYS lied, about their own history ?

So much hate.

So much calumny.

darkhall,

Yours is the typical response from moslems, WHENEVER THEIR TRUE ENMITY TO NON-MOSLEMS IS EXPOSED.

If someone tells the truth about ISLAM/moslems, it is not truth [we are told], but an expression of their 'hatred' of moslems, or, the critics of ISLAM/moslems are portrayed as 'racists', or 'bigots'.

Moslems are always 'innocent' victims, and their critics are always portrayed as societal 'monsters'.
....while in fact, it is the exact opposite which is true.

"...If somebody (a Muslim) discards his religion, kill him."

THE TRUTH ABOUT MOSLEMS;

Moslems typically tell the truth, about their relationship with infidels, ...when moslems talk among themselves.

Moslems typically, ARE LIARS, and will blatantly, and intentionally, and deceitfully misrepresent ISLAM to infidels, when they are talking to infidels.

e.g.
Google;
undercover mosque

Google;
taqiyya - the muslim doctrine of deceit

Google;
we smile to the face "while our hearts curse them"

How Taqiyya Alters Islams Rules of War
http://www.meforum.org/2538/taqiyya-islam-rules-of-war

+++

DECEIT EXAMPLE #1,
GOOD MOSLEM SPEAKS TO NON-MOSLEM AUDIENCE - blatant deceit
A UK moslem *community leader*, speaking in the wake of the London 7/7 bombing;
"We condemn the killing of all innocent civilians."

#1,
THE VERY SAME GOOD MOSLEM SPEAKS TO A *MOSLEM* AUDIENCE
"...Later when he addressed his own followers he explained that he had in fact been referring only to Muslims as only they were innocent: "Yes I condemn killing any innocent people, but not any kuffar." "
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article552594.ece

DECEIT EXAMPLE #2,
GOOD MOSLEM SPEAKS TO NON-MOSLEM AUDIENCE - blatant deceit
"The Undercover Mosque: The return"
"A group of Christians visiting the mosque and the preacher and the Women's Circle treat [the Christians] kindly and talk about,
'We're all people of the book and we all come from the same history'."

#2,
SAME GOOD MOSLEM SPEAKS TO A *MOSLEM* AUDIENCE
"Just as soon as that group of visitors [the Christians] leaves, the language changes completely. 'CHRISTIANITY IS VILE', the preacher says....."

Source;
ABC Radio National Religion interview transcript - "The Undercover Mosque: The return"
".....Stephen Crittenden: .....your program highlights a certain kind of duplicity. When they're caught out, individuals don't miss a [beat], they just say they've been taken out of context....
David Henshaw: ......Regent's Park Mosque is officially committed to inter-faith dialogue....."
http://www.abc.net.au/rn/religionreport/stories/2008/2360820.htm#transcript

What 'religious' non-moslems need to realise, is that the intentional, blatant deceit, coming from the lips of moslems, lies about a 'tolerant', 'peaceful' ISLAM, is often delivered as part of a moslem 'inter-faith dialogue', with people of other faiths.

DECEIT EXAMPLE #3,
GOOD MOSLEM SPEAKS TO A *MOSLEM* AUDIENCE
Use children as troops, says cleric [Sheik Feiz Mohammed]
January 18, 2007
..."We want to have children and offer them as soldiers...Teach them this: There is nothing more beloved to me than wanting to die as a mujahid (holy warrior). Put in their soft, tender hearts the zeal of jihad and a love of martyrdom."
......"The peak, the pinnacle, the crest, the highest point, the pivot, the summit of Islam is jihad," he declares in the film, before denouncing "kaffirs" (non-Muslims).
"Kaffir is the worst word ever written, a sign of infidelity, disbelief, filth, a sign of dirt."
ahttp://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=94224
ahttp://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/014863.php

#3,
SAME GOOD MOSLEM SPEAKS TO NON-MOSLEM AUDIENCE - blatant deceit
Fiery Australian cleric claims jihad remarks were misunderstood
"The jihad I speak of is not one of violence,"...
"I don't believe in suicide bombing. I don't believe in violence against others," he said. "We denounce that. This is not Islamic law and it is not moral."
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2007/01/fiery-australian-cleric-claims-jihad-remarks-were-misunderstood.html

Sheik Feiz declares;
"....violence against others,..This is not Islamic law and it is not moral.";

"O ye who believe! Fight those of the disbelievers who are near to you, and let them find harshness in you, and know that Allah is with those who keep their duty (unto Him)."
Koran 9.123

Lots, lots, more examples available !!!

A Study in Muslim Doctrine
"...while sincere friendship with non-Muslims is forbidden, insincere friendship - whenever beneficial to Muslims - is not."
http://www.meforum.org/2512/nidal-hasan-fort-hood-muslim-doctrine

THE TRUTH IS THAT....

E V E R Y D A Y - MOSLEMS LIE

ISLAM......is a false religion, for a false people.

Title: Re: Israeli scientist discovers the 'impossible'
Post by Yadda on Oct 7^th, 2011 at 7:58am

darkhall67 wrote on Oct 6^th, 2011 at 4:09pm:

Yadda wrote on Oct 6^th, 2011 at 4:05pm:

darkhall67 wrote on Oct 6^th, 2011 at 4:00pm:

Aaaaah so you are selective with the truths you dont turn away from.

What is the truth, which you claim that i am turning away from ?

And what is the substantiation of that truth ?

Of course it does.
/sarc off

Google;
dinosaur, human footprints found together

Google;
rapid petrification

petrification [i.e. the 'fossilisation' of organic material] has been DEMONSTRATED to take place in as little a 7 years.
meaning that the assumed 'millions of years', which it took to fossilise dinosaur remains,
...well, 'it ain't necessarily so'.

Google;
T-rex soft tissue discovered

Google;
T-rex soft tissue discovered national geographic

T-rex lived 65 millions years ago, we are told, by science.
....yet scientists claim to have found T-rex soft tissue inside a T-rex leg bone.

Google;
radiometric dating science fraud

+++

People who find the idea of creation [and a creator] [ideologically] 'offensive', typically ignore, and will dishonestly 'bury' the abundant evidence which supports creation and a young earth.

That many science researchers do this [to protect their careers, reputation] is a 'scientific fact'.

And denial of facts [because they do not fit your worldview], is a corruption of the scientific process.

Telling the truth [or revealing evidence of the truth], when the truth does not fit the worldview of the majority, is not PC.

Mankind....

Romans 1:22
Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,

Title: Re: Israeli scientist discovers the 'impossible'
Post by darkhall67 on Oct 7^th, 2011 at 10:31am

Yadda wrote on Oct 7^th, 2011 at 7:23am:

darkhall67 wrote on Oct 6^th, 2011 at 4:01pm:

Yadda wrote on Oct 6^th, 2011 at 2:48pm:

Does history not teach us, that moslems ALWAYS lie, that moslems have ALWAYS lied, about their own history ?

So much hate.

So much calumny.

darkhall,

Yours is the typical response from moslems, WHENEVER THEIR TRUE ENMITY TO NON-MOSLEMS IS EXPOSED.

Hate to break it to you but I'm not moslem.

I dont believe in any of that supernatural nonsense , including your supernatural nonsense.

I do however find it sad/hilarious when a so called christian doesnt follow the example and teachings of their so called messiah and demonstrates such a boatload of hatred and obsession about another group of people.

Title: Re: Israeli scientist discovers the 'impossible'
Post by darkhall67 on Oct 7^th, 2011 at 10:38am

Yadda wrote on Oct 7^th, 2011 at 7:58am:

darkhall67 wrote on Oct 6^th, 2011 at 4:09pm:

Yadda wrote on Oct 6^th, 2011 at 4:05pm:

darkhall67 wrote on Oct 6^th, 2011 at 4:00pm:

Aaaaah so you are selective with the truths you dont turn away from.

What is the truth, which you claim that i am turning away from ?

And what is the substantiation of that truth ?

Of course it does.
/sarc off

Google;
dinosaur, human footprints found together

http://paleo.cc/paluxy/paluxy.htm

"For many years claims were made by strict, "young-earth" creationists that human footprints or "giant man tracks" occur alongside fossilized dinosaur tracks in the limestone beds of the Paluxy River, near Glen Rose Texas. If true, such a finding would dramatically contradict the conventional geologic timetable, which holds that humans did not appear on earth until over 60 million years after the dinosaurs became extinct. However, the "man track" claims have not stood up to close scientific scrutiny, and in recent years have been abandoned even by most creationists. "

Title: Re: Israeli scientist discovers the 'impossible'
Post by Yadda on Oct 7^th, 2011 at 10:50am

darkhall67 wrote on Oct 7^th, 2011 at 10:31am:

Funny [strange] how you equate truth, with hate.

How you equate exposing what the truth is about ISLAM, with hate.

What have i said about ISLAM, which is untrue ?

Is the truth, something which is 'offensive' ???

Is that what you believe ?

If so, then imo, what a funny [strange] philosophy you have chosen to embrace.

A philosophy which says that, it is OK to turn away from truth.

But a very popular philosophy today.

Romans 12:9
Let love be without dissimulation. Abhor that which is evil; cleave to that which is good.

Title: Re: Israeli scientist discovers the 'impossible'
Post by darkhall67 on Oct 7^th, 2011 at 10:51am

Yadda wrote on Oct 7^th, 2011 at 7:58am:

darkhall67 wrote on Oct 6^th, 2011 at 4:09pm:

Yadda wrote on Oct 6^th, 2011 at 4:05pm:

darkhall67 wrote on Oct 6^th, 2011 at 4:00pm:

Aaaaah so you are selective with the truths you dont turn away from.

What is the truth, which you claim that i am turning away from ?

And what is the substantiation of that truth ?

Of course it does.
/sarc off

Google;
rapid petrification

petrification [i.e. the 'fossilisation' of organic material] has been DEMONSTRATED to take place in as little a 7 years.
meaning that the assumed 'millions of years', which it took to fossilise dinosaur remains,
...well, 'it ain't necessarily so'.

Rapid petrification in some wood samples doesnt automatically translate into rapid fossilization of animal remains.

If you young earth creationists are correct about that then there wouldnt be fossils found in different strata (layers).

The flood (tee hee) would have mixed all those dinosaur bone fossils with those of horses, dogs , dodos, kittens, elephants, lions , sabre tooth tigers , and MAN.

But they ARENT found like that are they?

Title: Re: Israeli scientist discovers the 'impossible'
Post by darkhall67 on Oct 7^th, 2011 at 10:53am

Yadda wrote on Oct 7^th, 2011 at 10:50am:

darkhall67 wrote on Oct 7^th, 2011 at 10:31am:

Funny [strange] how you equate truth, with hate.

How you equate exposing what the truth is about ISLAM, with hate.

What have i said about ISLAM, which is untrue ?

Is the truth, something which is 'offensive' ???

If so, then imo, what a funny [strange] philosophy you have chosen to embrace.

A philosophy which says that, it is OK to turn away from truth.

Romans 12:9
Let love be without dissimulation. Abhor that which is evil; cleave to that which is good.

The very fact that you started this thread with such glee and smugness tells me that you arent interested in truth.

Just point scoring because of your fear and hatred towards muslims.

Title: Re: Israeli scientist discovers the 'impossible'
Post by darkhall67 on Oct 7^th, 2011 at 10:57am

Yadda wrote on Oct 7^th, 2011 at 7:58am:

darkhall67 wrote on Oct 6^th, 2011 at 4:09pm:

Yadda wrote on Oct 6^th, 2011 at 4:05pm:

darkhall67 wrote on Oct 6^th, 2011 at 4:00pm:

Aaaaah so you are selective with the truths you dont turn away from.

What is the truth, which you claim that i am turning away from ?

And what is the substantiation of that truth ?

Google;
T-rex soft tissue discovered

Google;
T-rex soft tissue discovered national geographic

T-rex lived 65 millions years ago, we are told, by science.
....yet scientists claim to have found T-rex soft tissue inside a T-rex leg bone.

I did google that.

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2005/03/0324_050324_trexsofttissue.html

"A Tyrannosaurus rex fossil has yielded what appear to be the only preserved soft tissues ever recovered from a dinosaur. Taken from a 70-million-year-old thighbone, the structures look like the blood vessels, cells, and proteins involved in bone formation. "

Title: Re: Israeli scientist discovers the 'impossible'
Post by darkhall67 on Oct 7^th, 2011 at 11:04am

Yadda wrote on Oct 7^th, 2011 at 7:58am:

darkhall67 wrote on Oct 6^th, 2011 at 4:09pm:

Yadda wrote on Oct 6^th, 2011 at 4:05pm:

darkhall67 wrote on Oct 6^th, 2011 at 4:00pm:

Aaaaah so you are selective with the truths you dont turn away from.

What is the truth, which you claim that i am turning away from ?

And what is the substantiation of that truth ?

Google;
radiometric dating science fraud

http://gondwanaresearch.com/rate.htm

And that's all the help I will give you.

Good luck on confronting truth.

Title: Re: Israeli scientist discovers the 'impossible'
Post by Yadda on Oct 7^th, 2011 at 11:08am

darkhall67 wrote on Oct 7^th, 2011 at 10:51am:

"But they ARENT found like that are they?"

Isn't the same as; They have not been found like that, YET.

Does not mean, they will not.

Google;
petrified trees intersect geologic layers

e.g.
"In other words, picture a fossilized tree standing upright, right in the middle of the Geologic Column going up through “millions of years” of several layers. ..."

The flood (tee hee)..... ;D

Title: Re: Israeli scientist discovers the 'impossible'
Post by darkhall67 on Oct 7^th, 2011 at 11:11am

Yadda wrote on Oct 7^th, 2011 at 11:08am:

darkhall67 wrote on Oct 7^th, 2011 at 10:51am:

Seriously?

Wow.

Truth confronting aint what it used to be.

Title: Re: Israeli scientist discovers the 'impossible'
Post by Yadda on Oct 7^th, 2011 at 11:45am

darkhall67 wrote on Oct 7^th, 2011 at 11:11am:

Yadda wrote on Oct 7^th, 2011 at 11:08am:

darkhall67 wrote on Oct 7^th, 2011 at 10:51am:

Seriously?

Wow.

Truth confronting aint what it used to be.

So if you go into your backyard and strike the earth with a pick, and you do not find gold, that means there is no gold anywhere in your state ???

i.e.
If it is true that man and dinosaurs lived in the same era, in the past, if we find dinosaur remains, we must also find the remains of ancient man [with the dinosaur remains].

That is the logic you are using.

+++

And if the geologic layers are evidence of aeons of time passing between each geologic layer, how come upright petrified trees have been found [all over the world], which intersect the 'geologic layers' which are supposedly separated by millions of years of time ?

Isn't it obvious [most logical] that in those locations, some cataclysmic event has obviously occurred, burying those upright trees in sedimentary layers ?

What other explanation would you like to propose, for those upright petrified trees intersecting the geologic layers, representing 'millions of years' of geologic time ???

Title: Re: Israeli scientist discovers the 'impossible'
Post by chicken_lipsforme on Oct 7^th, 2011 at 11:53am

You always ask the tough questions Yadda.

Title: Re: Israeli scientist discovers the 'impossible'
Post by Yadda on Oct 7^th, 2011 at 11:57am

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Oct 7^th, 2011 at 11:53am:

You always ask the tough questions Yadda.

Only because i want people to think for themselves.

We should not, just accept what other people tell us.

We should examine all of the evidence, for any theory or hypothesis.

Title: Re: Israeli scientist discovers the 'impossible'
Post by darkhall67 on Oct 7^th, 2011 at 12:04pm

heh heh heh.

Title: Re: Israeli scientist discovers the 'impossible'
Post by pansi1951 on Oct 7^th, 2011 at 12:33pm

Yadda wrote on Oct 7^th, 2011 at 11:57am:

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Oct 7^th, 2011 at 11:53am:

You always ask the tough questions Yadda.

Only because i want people to think for themselves.

We should not, just accept what other people tell us.

We should examine all of the evidence, for any theory or hypothesis.

http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQzQsed5F_28cWC8O7dHKkKqbu00x2ebRgHwHka1AJf2giZea_ldw

Title: Re: Israeli scientist discovers the 'impossible'
Post by Nationals_Win on Oct 7^th, 2011 at 12:33pm

this thread is a masturbation fest

Title: Re: Israeli scientist discovers the 'impossible'
Post by Karnal on Oct 7^th, 2011 at 12:36pm

barnaby joe wrote on Oct 7^th, 2011 at 12:33pm:

this thread is a masturbation fest

I won't post my Wiki source then.

Title: Re: Israeli scientist discovers the 'impossible'
Post by Yadda on Oct 7^th, 2011 at 12:49pm

barnaby joe wrote on Oct 7^th, 2011 at 12:33pm:

this thread is a masturbation fest

darkhall67 wrote on Oct 7^th, 2011 at 10:53am:

The very fact that you started this thread with such glee and smugness tells me that you arent interested in truth.

Just point scoring because of your fear and hatred towards muslims.

Hmmmm....

Does 'glee' equate with mastur......mastur.....mastur.....err, masterbation ? ;D

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, what joy!

Like the lady said;

"I'll have, what she's having!" ;D