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Message started by matty on Nov 16th, 2011 at 2:55pm

Title: What is wrong with being far-right?
Post by matty on Nov 16th, 2011 at 2:55pm
Why do people speak of it as if it is such a bad thing?

Title: Re: What is wrong with being far-right?
Post by skippy. on Nov 16th, 2011 at 2:58pm
Moderators.longweekend in particular didn't matty start a thread just like this last week and it was moved to relationships? surly its about time matty earned a banning to teach her that this is boring and not on, in fact I'm sure longweekend threatened her with just that.

Title: Re: What is wrong with being far-right?
Post by Doctor Jolly on Nov 16th, 2011 at 2:59pm

matty wrote on Nov 16th, 2011 at 2:55pm:
Why do people speak of it as if it is such a bad thing?


whats is wrong with being a piece of string ?

Title: Re: What is wrong with being far-right?
Post by cods on Nov 16th, 2011 at 3:00pm
whom do you have in mind matty???.. its saves calling someone names in the long run..captialist..or the latest neocons..the hard lefties were communists..or stalinists.. which means everyone is poor except me of course..

I had an email of what was Gaddafi' sons house in France..I believe the son has just been given santuary in Niger..but this house well I have never seen a thing like it..decadence didnt even come close.

if it really was his sons house.well!!! I am speechless.

Title: Re: What is wrong with being far-right?
Post by The Truth on Nov 16th, 2011 at 3:05pm
Far-anything isn't so good.

Sure, they use the term very loosely round here, but for crying out loud, how many of these "why's everybody always picking on me" type threads do we need?

Just man up, and own it.

Title: Re: What is wrong with being far-right?
Post by gizmo_2655 on Nov 16th, 2011 at 3:12pm

skippy. wrote on Nov 16th, 2011 at 2:58pm:
Moderators.longweekend in particular didn't matty start a thread just like this last week and it was moved to relationships? surly its about time matty earned a banning to teach her that this is boring and not on, in fact I'm sure longweekend threatened her with just that.


Actually the other one (in Relationships) is about being a right wing christian....

Title: Re: What is wrong with being far-right?
Post by skippy. on Nov 16th, 2011 at 3:15pm

gizmo_2655 wrote on Nov 16th, 2011 at 3:12pm:

skippy. wrote on Nov 16th, 2011 at 2:58pm:
Moderators.longweekend in particular didn't matty start a thread just like this last week and it was moved to relationships? surly its about time matty earned a banning to teach her that this is boring and not on, in fact I'm sure longweekend threatened her with just that.


Actually the other one (in Relationships) is about being a right wing christian....

surly you can see the connection ,gizmo, if this is as good as matty can come up with she ought to give up her charade.

Title: Re: What is wrong with being far-right?
Post by matty on Nov 16th, 2011 at 3:18pm
This is not about me being attacked, it's not about me at all. It's just a general question - why is being far-right considered a bad thing?

Title: Re: What is wrong with being far-right?
Post by The Truth on Nov 16th, 2011 at 3:24pm

matty wrote on Nov 16th, 2011 at 3:18pm:
This is not about me being attacked, it's not about me at all. It's just a general question - why is being far-right considered a bad thing?



*sigh*

Because it's FAR right.  far, by definition, means extreme.  Most people sit comfortably in the middle range,  FAR right is no better than FAR left - nobdy likes an extremist.

Title: Re: What is wrong with being far-right?
Post by pansi1951 on Nov 16th, 2011 at 3:27pm

matty wrote on Nov 16th, 2011 at 3:18pm:
This is not about me being attacked, it's not about me at all. It's just a general question - why is being far-right considered a bad thing?



BECAUSE YOU WILL NEVER BECOME PRIME MINISTER IF YOU TELL EVERYONE YOU ARE FAR ANYTHING.

PEOPLE DON'T TRUST FAR.

PEOPLE DON'T MIND IF YOU LIE (not with Karnal sort of lie) BUT NEVER SAY YOU ARE FAR.

FAR SCARES PEOPLE.

HITLER WAS FAR.

STALIN WAS FAR.

ALL THE BADDIES WERE FAR.

OK SWEETIE, NOW GO AND DO YOUR EXERCISE YOU'RE LOOKING FLABBY.
HAS KARNAL BEEN FEEDING YOU THOSE KEBABS AGAIN?

Title: Re: What is wrong with being far-right?
Post by matty on Nov 16th, 2011 at 3:29pm

... wrote on Nov 16th, 2011 at 3:24pm:

matty wrote on Nov 16th, 2011 at 3:18pm:
This is not about me being attacked, it's not about me at all. It's just a general question - why is being far-right considered a bad thing?



*sigh*

Because it's FAR right.  far, by definition, means extreme.  Most people sit comfortably in the middle range,  FAR right is no better than FAR left - nobdy likes an extremist.


The Lefties on here don't seem to mind Lee and her far-left views.  ::)

Title: Re: What is wrong with being far-right?
Post by skippy. on Nov 16th, 2011 at 3:29pm
Just pretend for a moment that matty is not a fictional character created out of boredom by a middle aged woman. Imagine this character at school, where it would have been only a couple of years ago if it were to be believed,' look at me look at me, I want attention" what a bore, its a pity the bullies didn't show this fictional character more attention to put it into its fictional character place.Talk about an attention seeker, its not because you're far right or far anything, matty, you're just one big bloody bore.

Title: Re: What is wrong with being far-right?
Post by The Truth on Nov 16th, 2011 at 3:31pm

matty wrote on Nov 16th, 2011 at 3:29pm:

... wrote on Nov 16th, 2011 at 3:24pm:

matty wrote on Nov 16th, 2011 at 3:18pm:
This is not about me being attacked, it's not about me at all. It's just a general question - why is being far-right considered a bad thing?



*sigh*

Because it's FAR right.  far, by definition, means extreme.  Most people sit comfortably in the middle range,  FAR right is no better than FAR left - nobdy likes an extremist.


The Lefties on here don't seem to mind Lee and her far-left views.  ::)


Nobody who is anything in australian politics has far-anything views.  You know how annoying it is for a reasonable suggestion or opinion to be mislabelled as FAR-right?  Well, you're no better by tagging them far left.  

Title: Re: What is wrong with being far-right?
Post by Dnarever on Nov 16th, 2011 at 3:51pm
What is wrong with being far-right?

Nothing - its an ideal place to put all the nutters.

Title: Re: What is wrong with being far-right?
Post by Dnarever on Nov 16th, 2011 at 3:56pm

matty wrote on Nov 16th, 2011 at 3:29pm:
The Lefties on here don't seem to mind Lee and her far-left views.  ::)



Lee would be closer to centre than people Like Tony Abbott and co and Tony is not extreme just a long way to the right - almost far right maybe.

Title: Re: What is wrong with being far-right?
Post by Doctor Jolly on Nov 16th, 2011 at 4:04pm

skippy. wrote on Nov 16th, 2011 at 3:29pm:
Just pretend for a moment that matty is not a fictional character created out of boredom by a middle aged woman.


Hang on, I thought he was a middle aged man, pretending to be a middle aged woman, pretending to be matty, who sometimes pretends to be "log_me_out".


Title: Re: What is wrong with being far-right?
Post by Gist on Nov 16th, 2011 at 4:08pm

matty wrote on Nov 16th, 2011 at 2:55pm:
Why do people speak of it as if it is such a bad thing?


*sigh*

Because you're a big girls blouse, that's why.

You're friends don't want to tell you that but there's no such barrier here.

Title: Re: What is wrong with being far-right?
Post by pansi1951 on Nov 16th, 2011 at 4:22pm
 

 Happy

           Christmas  

                               matty




Title: Re: What is wrong with being far-right?
Post by Tonysafony on Nov 16th, 2011 at 5:08pm
Far right, far out, far off, the far side, far from reality, a bridge too far,  far-t, faringe, too far, and depending on your proximity, not far enough.

It looks like far right is farked.

Title: Re: What is wrong with being far-right?
Post by The Truth on Nov 16th, 2011 at 5:35pm

Gist wrote on Nov 16th, 2011 at 4:08pm:

matty wrote on Nov 16th, 2011 at 2:55pm:
Why do people speak of it as if it is such a bad thing?


*sigh*

Because you're a big girls blouse, that's why.

You're friends don't want to tell you that but there's no such barrier here.



TOP ANSWER.

Title: Re: What is wrong with being far-right?
Post by longweekend58 on Nov 16th, 2011 at 5:41pm

matty wrote on Nov 16th, 2011 at 2:55pm:
Why do people speak of it as if it is such a bad thing?


you are your own worst enemy. far-ANYTHING is bad . THAT's the point. trouble is you ahve no idea why so please do us all a favour (and yoruself) and stay well away from politics.

Title: Re: What is wrong with being far-right?
Post by Grey on Nov 16th, 2011 at 6:21pm

matty wrote on Nov 16th, 2011 at 3:18pm:
This is not about me being attacked, it's not about me at all. It's just a general question - why is being far-right considered a bad thing?




Title: Re: What is wrong with being far-right?
Post by Deathridesahorse on Nov 16th, 2011 at 6:55pm

longweekend58 wrote on Nov 16th, 2011 at 5:41pm:

matty wrote on Nov 16th, 2011 at 2:55pm:
Why do people speak of it as if it is such a bad thing?


you are your own worst enemy. far-ANYTHING is bad . THAT's the point. trouble is you ahve no idea why so please do us all a favour (and yoruself) and stay well away from politics.

LONGY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!, SEEKING TO DEMARCATE HIMSELF FROM THE ULTRA WING NUT SOCIETY.... TO THE LESS SO!??!  ::) ::) ::) ::) ;D

Title: Re: What is wrong with being far-right?
Post by alevine on Nov 16th, 2011 at 7:20pm
matty is not far right wing!! He is just an Allen spokesperson.

Title: Re: What is wrong with being far-right?
Post by Maqqa on Nov 16th, 2011 at 7:26pm
The only bad thing about being far-right is you might be so far right that you end up far left

Title: Re: What is wrong with being far-right?
Post by Dnarever on Nov 16th, 2011 at 7:53pm

Dr Brown wrote on Nov 16th, 2011 at 5:08pm:
Far right, far out, far off, the far side, far from reality, a bridge too far,  far-t, faringe, too far, and depending on your proximity, not far enough.

It looks like far right is farked.


Extending the joke to include the Q suffix could get someone suspended.

Title: Re: What is wrong with being far-right?
Post by matty on Nov 16th, 2011 at 8:20pm

Gist wrote on Nov 16th, 2011 at 4:08pm:

matty wrote on Nov 16th, 2011 at 2:55pm:
Why do people speak of it as if it is such a bad thing?


*sigh*

Because you're a big girls blouse, that's why.

You're friends don't want to tell you that but there's no such barrier here.


How so?

Title: Re: What is wrong with being far-right?
Post by matty on Nov 16th, 2011 at 8:21pm

longweekend58 wrote on Nov 16th, 2011 at 5:41pm:

matty wrote on Nov 16th, 2011 at 2:55pm:
Why do people speak of it as if it is such a bad thing?


you are your own worst enemy. far-ANYTHING is bad . THAT's the point. trouble is you ahve no idea why so please do us all a favour (and yoruself) and stay well away from politics.


That's only a matter of opinion, though. "Good" and "bad" are subjective entities, not objective.

Title: Re: What is wrong with being far-right?
Post by matty on Nov 16th, 2011 at 8:22pm

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Nov 16th, 2011 at 7:20pm:
matty is not far right wing!! He is just an Allen spokesperson.


Get back to me when you come up with something of substance.

Title: Re: What is wrong with being far-right?
Post by alevine on Nov 16th, 2011 at 8:23pm

matty wrote on Nov 16th, 2011 at 8:20pm:

Gist wrote on Nov 16th, 2011 at 4:08pm:

matty wrote on Nov 16th, 2011 at 2:55pm:
Why do people speak of it as if it is such a bad thing?


*sigh*

Because you're a big girls blouse, that's why.

You're friends don't want to tell you that but there's no such barrier here.


How so?


I agree with matty. Gist, matty doesn't wear a big girls blouse.  Leave the Allen spokesperson alone! He is only trying to repeat Allen's opinions, and should not be subjected to such bullying!

;)

Title: Re: What is wrong with being far-right?
Post by alevine on Nov 16th, 2011 at 8:23pm

matty wrote on Nov 16th, 2011 at 8:22pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Nov 16th, 2011 at 7:20pm:
matty is not far right wing!! He is just an Allen spokesperson.


Get back to me when you come up with something of substance.


How so?

Title: Re: What is wrong with being far-right?
Post by matty on Nov 16th, 2011 at 8:25pm

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Nov 16th, 2011 at 8:23pm:

matty wrote on Nov 16th, 2011 at 8:22pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Nov 16th, 2011 at 7:20pm:
matty is not far right wing!! He is just an Allen spokesperson.


Get back to me when you come up with something of substance.


How so?


I am fed up to the back teeth of your ad hominem attacks about me and Alan.

Title: Re: What is wrong with being far-right?
Post by alevine on Nov 16th, 2011 at 8:27pm

matty wrote on Nov 16th, 2011 at 8:25pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Nov 16th, 2011 at 8:23pm:

matty wrote on Nov 16th, 2011 at 8:22pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Nov 16th, 2011 at 7:20pm:
matty is not far right wing!! He is just an Allen spokesperson.


Get back to me when you come up with something of substance.


How so?


I am fed up to the back teeth of your ad hominem attacks about me and Alan.


:( Why do you think I am attacking you?  I am simply pointing out that you entirely follow the opinions of the greatest media personality this country has ever seen! How is that an attack? I'd take it as a compliment.

Title: Re: What is wrong with being far-right?
Post by matty on Nov 16th, 2011 at 8:29pm

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Nov 16th, 2011 at 8:27pm:

matty wrote on Nov 16th, 2011 at 8:25pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Nov 16th, 2011 at 8:23pm:

matty wrote on Nov 16th, 2011 at 8:22pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Nov 16th, 2011 at 7:20pm:
matty is not far right wing!! He is just an Allen spokesperson.


Get back to me when you come up with something of substance.


How so?


I am fed up to the back teeth of your ad hominem attacks about me and Alan.


:( Why do you think I am attacking you?  I am simply pointing out that you entirely follow the opinions of the greatest media personality this country has ever seen! How is that an attack? I'd take it as a compliment.


Because I've spoken about this time and time again, and feel as though I'm the only being targeted with this. I've never heard you accuse any other member of simply attaining their views from a radio presenter.

Title: Re: What is wrong with being far-right?
Post by Dnarever on Nov 16th, 2011 at 8:29pm

Maqqa wrote on Nov 16th, 2011 at 7:26pm:
The only bad thing about being far-right is you might be so far right that you end up far left



I thought you fell off the edge?

Its a lot sefer now that we have John Howard hangin there catching those who go over.

Title: Re: What is wrong with being far-right?
Post by matty on Nov 16th, 2011 at 8:31pm

Dnarever wrote on Nov 16th, 2011 at 8:29pm:

Maqqa wrote on Nov 16th, 2011 at 7:26pm:
The only bad thing about being far-right is you might be so far right that you end up far left



I thought you fell off the edge?

Its a lot sefer now that we have John Howard hangin there catching those who go over.


Mr Howard is not far-right.

Title: Re: What is wrong with being far-right?
Post by Ephestion on Nov 16th, 2011 at 8:33pm
People often show pictures of the NAZI's with Popes on this forum as if to indicate that Hitler was Far Right. It would surprise you to learn that he was the member of the Socialist Far-Left party and won his elections as a Leftists plus the help of the night of the long knives.

When he came to power he did not ostracise the Church as did Stalanist Russia. Instead he kept ongoing relations with the Church during his ordeal. One one side of things the NAZI's had what some consider (aside psychopathic tendencies) extreme Right Winged mentality. But the party and Hitler administered Far Left policies on the local population in Germany. So what I am trying to say is that Hitler is not an icon of Far-Right as much as he isn't an icon of the Far-Left. So please stop posting those images because you are embarrassing.

Title: Re: What is wrong with being far-right?
Post by alevine on Nov 16th, 2011 at 8:34pm

matty wrote on Nov 16th, 2011 at 8:29pm:
Because I've spoken about this time and time again, and feel as though I'm the only being targeted with this. I've never heard you accuse any other member of simply attaining their views from a radio presenter.


I think you need to take my comments as compliments.  No other member of this forum takes their entire views from a radio presenter.  This makes you the black sheep, and in many cases being a black sheep is a great thing, matty!  While others take get their views from reading, analysing and independent thinking, which are all subject to much error, you simply do the right thing of following the view of ONE man - making sure you are always the most informed and knowledgeable individual! :)  Compliment!

Title: Re: What is wrong with being far-right?
Post by matty on Nov 16th, 2011 at 8:37pm

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Nov 16th, 2011 at 8:34pm:

matty wrote on Nov 16th, 2011 at 8:29pm:
Because I've spoken about this time and time again, and feel as though I'm the only being targeted with this. I've never heard you accuse any other member of simply attaining their views from a radio presenter.


I think you need to take my comments as compliments.  No other member of this forum takes their entire views from a radio presenter.  This makes you the black sheep, and in many cases being a black sheep is a great thing, matty!  While others take get their views from reading, analysing and independent thinking, which are all subject to much error, you simply do the right thing of following the view of ONE man - making sure you are always the most informed and knowledgeable individual! :)  Compliment!


Honestly, I am sick of your condescending and patronising attitude. You've never even given one solid piece of evidence supporting this ridiculous and baseless accusation. It is not true.

Title: Re: What is wrong with being far-right?
Post by Dnarever on Nov 16th, 2011 at 8:37pm

matty wrote on Nov 16th, 2011 at 8:31pm:

Dnarever wrote on Nov 16th, 2011 at 8:29pm:

Maqqa wrote on Nov 16th, 2011 at 7:26pm:
The only bad thing about being far-right is you might be so far right that you end up far left



I thought you fell off the edge?

Its a lot sefer now that we have John Howard hangin there catching those who go over.


Mr Howard is not far-right.



No not anymore he went over the edge, now he's far down.

Title: Re: What is wrong with being far-right?
Post by alevine on Nov 16th, 2011 at 8:39pm

matty wrote on Nov 16th, 2011 at 8:37pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Nov 16th, 2011 at 8:34pm:

matty wrote on Nov 16th, 2011 at 8:29pm:
Because I've spoken about this time and time again, and feel as though I'm the only being targeted with this. I've never heard you accuse any other member of simply attaining their views from a radio presenter.


I think you need to take my comments as compliments.  No other member of this forum takes their entire views from a radio presenter.  This makes you the black sheep, and in many cases being a black sheep is a great thing, matty!  While others take get their views from reading, analysing and independent thinking, which are all subject to much error, you simply do the right thing of following the view of ONE man - making sure you are always the most informed and knowledgeable individual! :)  Compliment!


Honestly, I am sick of your condescending and patronising attitude. You've never even given one solid piece of evidence supporting this ridiculous and baseless accusation. It is not true.


Matty, don't try to hide your individualism!  Be proud that you know the truth from Allen while others are so void of it through independent thinking!  You have said time and again that you don't have differing opinions to Allen, why refute this now?

Title: Re: What is wrong with being far-right?
Post by matty on Nov 16th, 2011 at 8:41pm

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Nov 16th, 2011 at 8:39pm:

matty wrote on Nov 16th, 2011 at 8:37pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Nov 16th, 2011 at 8:34pm:

matty wrote on Nov 16th, 2011 at 8:29pm:
Because I've spoken about this time and time again, and feel as though I'm the only being targeted with this. I've never heard you accuse any other member of simply attaining their views from a radio presenter.


I think you need to take my comments as compliments.  No other member of this forum takes their entire views from a radio presenter.  This makes you the black sheep, and in many cases being a black sheep is a great thing, matty!  While others take get their views from reading, analysing and independent thinking, which are all subject to much error, you simply do the right thing of following the view of ONE man - making sure you are always the most informed and knowledgeable individual! :)  Compliment!


Honestly, I am sick of your condescending and patronising attitude. You've never even given one solid piece of evidence supporting this ridiculous and baseless accusation. It is not true.


Matty, don't try to hide your individualism!  Be proud that you know the truth from Allen while others are so void of it through independent thinking!  You have said time and again that you don't have differing opinions to Allen, why refute this now?


I have said that I do, but you're not interested in listening. You only want to spew out this nonsense and false bile, yet had the temerity to criticise me for lying about the Greens.

Title: Re: What is wrong with being far-right?
Post by alevine on Nov 16th, 2011 at 8:45pm

matty wrote on Nov 16th, 2011 at 8:41pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Nov 16th, 2011 at 8:39pm:

matty wrote on Nov 16th, 2011 at 8:37pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Nov 16th, 2011 at 8:34pm:

matty wrote on Nov 16th, 2011 at 8:29pm:
Because I've spoken about this time and time again, and feel as though I'm the only being targeted with this. I've never heard you accuse any other member of simply attaining their views from a radio presenter.


I think you need to take my comments as compliments.  No other member of this forum takes their entire views from a radio presenter.  This makes you the black sheep, and in many cases being a black sheep is a great thing, matty!  While others take get their views from reading, analysing and independent thinking, which are all subject to much error, you simply do the right thing of following the view of ONE man - making sure you are always the most informed and knowledgeable individual! :)  Compliment!


Honestly, I am sick of your condescending and patronising attitude. You've never even given one solid piece of evidence supporting this ridiculous and baseless accusation. It is not true.


Matty, don't try to hide your individualism!  Be proud that you know the truth from Allen while others are so void of it through independent thinking!  You have said time and again that you don't have differing opinions to Allen, why refute this now?


I have said that I do, but you're not interested in listening. You only want to spew out this nonsense and false bile, yet had the temerity to criticise me for lying about the Greens.

But matty, each time you say this you fail to provide any example.  Are you lying again. Like you lied about being a member of the greens?

Title: Re: What is wrong with being far-right?
Post by matty on Nov 16th, 2011 at 8:50pm

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Nov 16th, 2011 at 8:45pm:

matty wrote on Nov 16th, 2011 at 8:41pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Nov 16th, 2011 at 8:39pm:

matty wrote on Nov 16th, 2011 at 8:37pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Nov 16th, 2011 at 8:34pm:

matty wrote on Nov 16th, 2011 at 8:29pm:
Because I've spoken about this time and time again, and feel as though I'm the only being targeted with this. I've never heard you accuse any other member of simply attaining their views from a radio presenter.


I think you need to take my comments as compliments.  No other member of this forum takes their entire views from a radio presenter.  This makes you the black sheep, and in many cases being a black sheep is a great thing, matty!  While others take get their views from reading, analysing and independent thinking, which are all subject to much error, you simply do the right thing of following the view of ONE man - making sure you are always the most informed and knowledgeable individual! :)  Compliment!


Honestly, I am sick of your condescending and patronising attitude. You've never even given one solid piece of evidence supporting this ridiculous and baseless accusation. It is not true.


Matty, don't try to hide your individualism!  Be proud that you know the truth from Allen while others are so void of it through independent thinking!  You have said time and again that you don't have differing opinions to Allen, why refute this now?


I have said that I do, but you're not interested in listening. You only want to spew out this nonsense and false bile, yet had the temerity to criticise me for lying about the Greens.

But matty, each time you say this you fail to provide any example.  Are you lying again. Like you lied about being a member of the greens?


I have provided examples, you just haven't bothered to listen. You're the one lying, not me.

Title: Re: What is wrong with being far-right?
Post by alevine on Nov 16th, 2011 at 8:51pm

matty wrote on Nov 16th, 2011 at 8:50pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Nov 16th, 2011 at 8:45pm:

matty wrote on Nov 16th, 2011 at 8:41pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Nov 16th, 2011 at 8:39pm:

matty wrote on Nov 16th, 2011 at 8:37pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Nov 16th, 2011 at 8:34pm:

matty wrote on Nov 16th, 2011 at 8:29pm:
Because I've spoken about this time and time again, and feel as though I'm the only being targeted with this. I've never heard you accuse any other member of simply attaining their views from a radio presenter.


I think you need to take my comments as compliments.  No other member of this forum takes their entire views from a radio presenter.  This makes you the black sheep, and in many cases being a black sheep is a great thing, matty!  While others take get their views from reading, analysing and independent thinking, which are all subject to much error, you simply do the right thing of following the view of ONE man - making sure you are always the most informed and knowledgeable individual! :)  Compliment!


Honestly, I am sick of your condescending and patronising attitude. You've never even given one solid piece of evidence supporting this ridiculous and baseless accusation. It is not true.


Matty, don't try to hide your individualism!  Be proud that you know the truth from Allen while others are so void of it through independent thinking!  You have said time and again that you don't have differing opinions to Allen, why refute this now?


I have said that I do, but you're not interested in listening. You only want to spew out this nonsense and false bile, yet had the temerity to criticise me for lying about the Greens.

But matty, each time you say this you fail to provide any example.  Are you lying again. Like you lied about being a member of the greens?


I have provided examples, you just haven't bothered to listen. You're the one lying, not me.


When?

Title: Re: What is wrong with being far-right?
Post by matty on Nov 16th, 2011 at 9:01pm

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Nov 16th, 2011 at 8:51pm:

matty wrote on Nov 16th, 2011 at 8:50pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Nov 16th, 2011 at 8:45pm:

matty wrote on Nov 16th, 2011 at 8:41pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Nov 16th, 2011 at 8:39pm:

matty wrote on Nov 16th, 2011 at 8:37pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Nov 16th, 2011 at 8:34pm:

matty wrote on Nov 16th, 2011 at 8:29pm:
Because I've spoken about this time and time again, and feel as though I'm the only being targeted with this. I've never heard you accuse any other member of simply attaining their views from a radio presenter.


I think you need to take my comments as compliments.  No other member of this forum takes their entire views from a radio presenter.  This makes you the black sheep, and in many cases being a black sheep is a great thing, matty!  While others take get their views from reading, analysing and independent thinking, which are all subject to much error, you simply do the right thing of following the view of ONE man - making sure you are always the most informed and knowledgeable individual! :)  Compliment!


Honestly, I am sick of your condescending and patronising attitude. You've never even given one solid piece of evidence supporting this ridiculous and baseless accusation. It is not true.


Matty, don't try to hide your individualism!  Be proud that you know the truth from Allen while others are so void of it through independent thinking!  You have said time and again that you don't have differing opinions to Allen, why refute this now?


I have said that I do, but you're not interested in listening. You only want to spew out this nonsense and false bile, yet had the temerity to criticise me for lying about the Greens.

But matty, each time you say this you fail to provide any example.  Are you lying again. Like you lied about being a member of the greens?


I have provided examples, you just haven't bothered to listen. You're the one lying, not me.


When?


Multiple times. You might have known had you bothered to listen.

Anyway, as I said, I am not discussing this anymore. I'm fed up with it. If you want to debate actual policy, then that's good, but if you want to have this never-ending, redundant and useless petty "conversations" about me supposedly getting my views from Alan, then no. I've had my views for years before I ever listened to Alan.

Title: Re: What is wrong with being far-right?
Post by alevine on Nov 16th, 2011 at 9:06pm

matty wrote on Nov 16th, 2011 at 9:01pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Nov 16th, 2011 at 8:51pm:

matty wrote on Nov 16th, 2011 at 8:50pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Nov 16th, 2011 at 8:45pm:

matty wrote on Nov 16th, 2011 at 8:41pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Nov 16th, 2011 at 8:39pm:

matty wrote on Nov 16th, 2011 at 8:37pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Nov 16th, 2011 at 8:34pm:

matty wrote on Nov 16th, 2011 at 8:29pm:
Because I've spoken about this time and time again, and feel as though I'm the only being targeted with this. I've never heard you accuse any other member of simply attaining their views from a radio presenter.


I think you need to take my comments as compliments.  No other member of this forum takes their entire views from a radio presenter.  This makes you the black sheep, and in many cases being a black sheep is a great thing, matty!  While others take get their views from reading, analysing and independent thinking, which are all subject to much error, you simply do the right thing of following the view of ONE man - making sure you are always the most informed and knowledgeable individual! :)  Compliment!


Honestly, I am sick of your condescending and patronising attitude. You've never even given one solid piece of evidence supporting this ridiculous and baseless accusation. It is not true.


Matty, don't try to hide your individualism!  Be proud that you know the truth from Allen while others are so void of it through independent thinking!  You have said time and again that you don't have differing opinions to Allen, why refute this now?


I have said that I do, but you're not interested in listening. You only want to spew out this nonsense and false bile, yet had the temerity to criticise me for lying about the Greens.

But matty, each time you say this you fail to provide any example.  Are you lying again. Like you lied about being a member of the greens?


I have provided examples, you just haven't bothered to listen. You're the one lying, not me.


When?


Multiple times. You might have known had you bothered to listen.

Anyway, as I said, I am not discussing this anymore. I'm fed up with it. If you want to debate actual policy, then that's good, but if you want to have this never-ending, redundant and useless petty "conversations" about me supposedly getting my views from Alan, then no. I've had my views for years before I ever listened to Alan.


But when? I don't recall these examples.  Pls provide.  And what policy does this thread discuss?

Title: Re: What is wrong with being far-right?
Post by matty on Nov 16th, 2011 at 9:10pm

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Nov 16th, 2011 at 9:06pm:

matty wrote on Nov 16th, 2011 at 9:01pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Nov 16th, 2011 at 8:51pm:

matty wrote on Nov 16th, 2011 at 8:50pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Nov 16th, 2011 at 8:45pm:

matty wrote on Nov 16th, 2011 at 8:41pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Nov 16th, 2011 at 8:39pm:

matty wrote on Nov 16th, 2011 at 8:37pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Nov 16th, 2011 at 8:34pm:

matty wrote on Nov 16th, 2011 at 8:29pm:
Because I've spoken about this time and time again, and feel as though I'm the only being targeted with this. I've never heard you accuse any other member of simply attaining their views from a radio presenter.


I think you need to take my comments as compliments.  No other member of this forum takes their entire views from a radio presenter.  This makes you the black sheep, and in many cases being a black sheep is a great thing, matty!  While others take get their views from reading, analysing and independent thinking, which are all subject to much error, you simply do the right thing of following the view of ONE man - making sure you are always the most informed and knowledgeable individual! :)  Compliment!


Honestly, I am sick of your condescending and patronising attitude. You've never even given one solid piece of evidence supporting this ridiculous and baseless accusation. It is not true.


Matty, don't try to hide your individualism!  Be proud that you know the truth from Allen while others are so void of it through independent thinking!  You have said time and again that you don't have differing opinions to Allen, why refute this now?


I have said that I do, but you're not interested in listening. You only want to spew out this nonsense and false bile, yet had the temerity to criticise me for lying about the Greens.

But matty, each time you say this you fail to provide any example.  Are you lying again. Like you lied about being a member of the greens?


I have provided examples, you just haven't bothered to listen. You're the one lying, not me.


When?


Multiple times. You might have known had you bothered to listen.

Anyway, as I said, I am not discussing this anymore. I'm fed up with it. If you want to debate actual policy, then that's good, but if you want to have this never-ending, redundant and useless petty "conversations" about me supposedly getting my views from Alan, then no. I've had my views for years before I ever listened to Alan.


But when? I don't recall these examples.  Pls provide.  And what policy does this thread discuss?


Animal welfare (more about his lack rather than disagreement), my MP, Monarchy vs Republic, global warming (him calling it a hoax, me being a sceptic). These are but four examples.

Now, could we please get back to this thread. It's not about a policy, but an ideology. Thank you.

Title: Re: What is wrong with being far-right?
Post by alevine on Nov 16th, 2011 at 9:23pm

matty wrote on Nov 16th, 2011 at 9:10pm:
Animal welfare (more about his lack rather than disagreement), my MP, Monarchy vs Republic, global warming (him calling it a hoax, me being a sceptic). These are but four examples.

Now, could we please get back to this thread. It's not about a policy, but an ideology. Thank you.


So you have differing views from Allen based on the fact that he doesn't believe in global warming and neither do you, he doesn't talk much about animal welfare and he doesn't like your MP.

Matty, stop trying to hide your individualism!  

Title: Re: What is wrong with being far-right?
Post by matty on Nov 16th, 2011 at 9:26pm

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Nov 16th, 2011 at 9:23pm:

matty wrote on Nov 16th, 2011 at 9:10pm:
Animal welfare (more about his lack rather than disagreement), my MP, Monarchy vs Republic, global warming (him calling it a hoax, me being a sceptic). These are but four examples.

Now, could we please get back to this thread. It's not about a policy, but an ideology. Thank you.


So you have differing views from Allen based on the fact that he doesn't believe in global warming and neither do you, he doesn't talk much about animal welfare and he doesn't like your MP.

Matty, stop trying to hide your individualism!  


That's not what I said at all, and as I said, if you want to discuss the idea raised in this thread, then good. If you don't, then don't bother.

Title: Re: What is wrong with being far-right?
Post by alevine on Nov 16th, 2011 at 9:33pm
[quote author=matty link=1321419350/45#49 date=1321442812

That's not what I said at all, and as I said, if you want to discuss the idea raised in this thread, then good. If you don't, then don't bother.[/quote]

What did you say then? I'm confused.

And what idea was raised in this thread?

Title: Re: What is wrong with being far-right?
Post by matty on Nov 16th, 2011 at 9:39pm

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Nov 16th, 2011 at 9:33pm:
[quote author=matty link=1321419350/45#49 date=1321442812

That's not what I said at all, and as I said, if you want to discuss the idea raised in this thread, then good. If you don't, then don't bother.


What did you say then? I'm confused.

And what idea was raised in this thread? [/quote]

I said that whilst Alan thinks that gw/cc is an absolute hoax, I am more in the middle. I don't believe that it is real, but I don't completely rule it out, either. In the middle but more on the side of not believing that it's real.

Now, can we please get back to the original point of this thread. I asked why some people think that being far-right is bad. Simple question.

Title: Re: What is wrong with being far-right?
Post by alevine on Nov 16th, 2011 at 9:42pm

matty wrote on Nov 16th, 2011 at 9:39pm:
I said that whilst Alan thinks that gw/cc is an absolute hoax, I am more in the middle. I don't believe that it is real, but I don't completely rule it out, either. In the middle but more on the side of not believing that it's real.

Now, can we please get back to the original point of this thread. I asked why some people think that being far-right is bad. Simple question.


Not really an idea then, now is it.

But Allen saying global warming is a hoax and you saying you are a sceptic is the same thing. You both don't believe in global warming. You both share the SAME opinion.

Mattttyyyy, don't hide from yourself! You are who you are. And who you are is great! Being an independent thinker from ONE source and ONE source ONLY is a good thing! You can't have anything wrong that way! :)

Oh, and being far anything is a little extreme.

Title: Re: What is wrong with being far-right?
Post by matty on Nov 16th, 2011 at 9:45pm

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Nov 16th, 2011 at 9:42pm:

matty wrote on Nov 16th, 2011 at 9:39pm:
I said that whilst Alan thinks that gw/cc is an absolute hoax, I am more in the middle. I don't believe that it is real, but I don't completely rule it out, either. In the middle but more on the side of not believing that it's real.

Now, can we please get back to the original point of this thread. I asked why some people think that being far-right is bad. Simple question.


Not really an idea then, now is it.

But Allen saying global warming is a hoax and you saying you are a sceptic is the same thing. You both don't believe in global warming. You both share the SAME opinion.

Mattttyyyy, don't hide from yourself! You are who you are. And who you are is great! Being an independent thinker from ONE source and ONE source ONLY is a good thing! You can't have anything wrong that way! :)

Oh, and being far anything is a little extreme.


There you go again. If you don't want to discuss this issue, and instead, would prefer to repeat this nonsense over and over, then don't bother. If you don't want to stay relevant to the OP, then I am not wasting my time.

When I answer someone's question, I do so directly, not start mouthing insults, because I am a nice person, with kindness, compassion and care. I am intelligent, decent, respectful and overall just a great person.

Title: Re: What is wrong with being far-right?
Post by alevine on Nov 16th, 2011 at 9:48pm

matty wrote on Nov 16th, 2011 at 9:45pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Nov 16th, 2011 at 9:42pm:

matty wrote on Nov 16th, 2011 at 9:39pm:
I said that whilst Alan thinks that gw/cc is an absolute hoax, I am more in the middle. I don't believe that it is real, but I don't completely rule it out, either. In the middle but more on the side of not believing that it's real.

Now, can we please get back to the original point of this thread. I asked why some people think that being far-right is bad. Simple question.


Not really an idea then, now is it.

But Allen saying global warming is a hoax and you saying you are a sceptic is the same thing. You both don't believe in global warming. You both share the SAME opinion.

Mattttyyyy, don't hide from yourself! You are who you are. And who you are is great! Being an independent thinker from ONE source and ONE source ONLY is a good thing! You can't have anything wrong that way! :)

Oh, and being far anything is a little extreme.


There you go again. If you don't want to discuss this issue, and instead, would prefer to repeat this nonsense over and over, then don't bother. If you don't want to stay relevant to the OP, then I am not wasting my time.

When I answer someone's question, I do so directly, not start mouthing insults, because I am a nice person, with kindness, compassion and care. I am intelligent, decent, respectful and overall just a great person.


When did I insult you? :( I compliment and you take it as an insult. :(  

and I've already replied to your Allen based thread.  Being far anything is rather extreme.  

Title: Re: What is wrong with being far-right?
Post by matty on Nov 16th, 2011 at 9:58pm

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Nov 16th, 2011 at 9:48pm:

matty wrote on Nov 16th, 2011 at 9:45pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Nov 16th, 2011 at 9:42pm:

matty wrote on Nov 16th, 2011 at 9:39pm:
I said that whilst Alan thinks that gw/cc is an absolute hoax, I am more in the middle. I don't believe that it is real, but I don't completely rule it out, either. In the middle but more on the side of not believing that it's real.

Now, can we please get back to the original point of this thread. I asked why some people think that being far-right is bad. Simple question.


Not really an idea then, now is it.

But Allen saying global warming is a hoax and you saying you are a sceptic is the same thing. You both don't believe in global warming. You both share the SAME opinion.

Mattttyyyy, don't hide from yourself! You are who you are. And who you are is great! Being an independent thinker from ONE source and ONE source ONLY is a good thing! You can't have anything wrong that way! :)

Oh, and being far anything is a little extreme.


There you go again. If you don't want to discuss this issue, and instead, would prefer to repeat this nonsense over and over, then don't bother. If you don't want to stay relevant to the OP, then I am not wasting my time.

When I answer someone's question, I do so directly, not start mouthing insults, because I am a nice person, with kindness, compassion and care. I am intelligent, decent, respectful and overall just a great person.


When did I insult you? :( I compliment and you take it as an insult. :(  

and I've already replied to your Allen based thread.  Being far anything is rather extreme.  


Once again, and for the last time, it is not true. And you show that again by implying that this thread is based on Alan when it is not. As I said, I am not going to waste my time anymore. If you bring it up again, then I simply won't respond.

Title: Re: What is wrong with being far-right?
Post by alevine on Nov 16th, 2011 at 10:01pm

matty wrote on Nov 16th, 2011 at 9:58pm:
Once again, and for the last time, it is not true. And you show that again by implying that this thread is based on Alan when it is not. As I said, I am not going to waste my time anymore. If you bring it up again, then I simply won't respond.


What isn't true? I never said the thread was based on Allen. I said your opinions are Allen's.  Different thing.

Why do you think it is okay to be far-right, matty?

Title: Re: What is wrong with being far-right?
Post by matty on Nov 16th, 2011 at 10:08pm

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Nov 16th, 2011 at 10:01pm:

matty wrote on Nov 16th, 2011 at 9:58pm:
Once again, and for the last time, it is not true. And you show that again by implying that this thread is based on Alan when it is not. As I said, I am not going to waste my time anymore. If you bring it up again, then I simply won't respond.


What isn't true? I never said the thread was based on Allen. I said your opinions are Allen's.  Different thing.

Why do you think it is okay to be far-right, matty?


My views are not based on Alan. I've had these views 3 years before I even started listening to him.

Good, thanks for asking and staying relevant. I wouldn't identify myself as far-right (maybe in some areas, but not overall), but I believe that everyone is entitled to their own views and opinions, without having to be insulted for simply being of that ideology. If you criticise someone's actual views, then fair enough, but time and again I have hear people simply using "far-right" in the context of an insult. That's completely different. Heck, I would be asking the question if people were using the term "far-left" as insult in itself.

Title: Re: What is wrong with being far-right?
Post by alevine on Nov 16th, 2011 at 10:10pm

matty wrote on Nov 16th, 2011 at 10:08pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Nov 16th, 2011 at 10:01pm:

matty wrote on Nov 16th, 2011 at 9:58pm:
Once again, and for the last time, it is not true. And you show that again by implying that this thread is based on Alan when it is not. As I said, I am not going to waste my time anymore. If you bring it up again, then I simply won't respond.


What isn't true? I never said the thread was based on Allen. I said your opinions are Allen's.  Different thing.

Why do you think it is okay to be far-right, matty?


My views are not based on Alan. I've had these views 3 years before I even started listening to him.

Good, thanks for asking and staying relevant. I wouldn't identify myself as far-right (maybe in some areas, but not overall), but I believe that everyone is entitled to their own views and opinions, without having to be insulted for simply being of that ideology. If you criticise someone's actual views, then fair enough, but time and again I have hear people simply using "far-right" in the context of an insult. That's completely different. Heck, I would be asking the question if people were using the term "far-left" as insult in itself.

I never asked you why you are far right or to share your experience of being far right (like Allen). I'm asking you why you think it is okay to be far-right.

Title: Re: What is wrong with being far-right?
Post by matty on Nov 16th, 2011 at 10:14pm

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Nov 16th, 2011 at 10:10pm:

matty wrote on Nov 16th, 2011 at 10:08pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Nov 16th, 2011 at 10:01pm:

matty wrote on Nov 16th, 2011 at 9:58pm:
Once again, and for the last time, it is not true. And you show that again by implying that this thread is based on Alan when it is not. As I said, I am not going to waste my time anymore. If you bring it up again, then I simply won't respond.


What isn't true? I never said the thread was based on Allen. I said your opinions are Allen's.  Different thing.

Why do you think it is okay to be far-right, matty?


My views are not based on Alan. I've had these views 3 years before I even started listening to him.

Good, thanks for asking and staying relevant. I wouldn't identify myself as far-right (maybe in some areas, but not overall), but I believe that everyone is entitled to their own views and opinions, without having to be insulted for simply being of that ideology. If you criticise someone's actual views, then fair enough, but time and again I have hear people simply using "far-right" in the context of an insult. That's completely different. Heck, I would be asking the question if people were using the term "far-left" as insult in itself.

I never asked you why you are far right or to share your experience of being far right (like Allen). I'm asking you why you think it is okay to be far-right.


I already said, everyone is entitled to their ownh views and opinions. There is no good or bad. There is only subjectivity.

Title: Re: What is wrong with being far-right?
Post by alevine on Nov 16th, 2011 at 10:18pm

matty wrote on Nov 16th, 2011 at 10:14pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Nov 16th, 2011 at 10:10pm:

matty wrote on Nov 16th, 2011 at 10:08pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Nov 16th, 2011 at 10:01pm:

matty wrote on Nov 16th, 2011 at 9:58pm:
Once again, and for the last time, it is not true. And you show that again by implying that this thread is based on Alan when it is not. As I said, I am not going to waste my time anymore. If you bring it up again, then I simply won't respond.


What isn't true? I never said the thread was based on Allen. I said your opinions are Allen's.  Different thing.

Why do you think it is okay to be far-right, matty?


My views are not based on Alan. I've had these views 3 years before I even started listening to him.

Good, thanks for asking and staying relevant. I wouldn't identify myself as far-right (maybe in some areas, but not overall), but I believe that everyone is entitled to their own views and opinions, without having to be insulted for simply being of that ideology. If you criticise someone's actual views, then fair enough, but time and again I have hear people simply using "far-right" in the context of an insult. That's completely different. Heck, I would be asking the question if people were using the term "far-left" as insult in itself.

I never asked you why you are far right or to share your experience of being far right (like Allen). I'm asking you why you think it is okay to be far-right.


I already said, everyone is entitled to their ownh views and opinions. There is no good or bad. There is only subjectivity.


So you would have no problem electing someone who had the personal opinion that an authoritarian government would be good for Australia?

Of course I agree that everyone can have their own extreme views. It's when these extreme views are attempted to be sold as mainstream that problems begin.  Hence why we don't need far right or far left people in politics, and why generally far right and far left people are a little wonky (i.e one Allen worshipper and opinion-stealer we know of on this forum, and in fact on this thread too).

Here is a question for you matty: What are 5 far-right opinions?

Title: Re: What is wrong with being far-right?
Post by matty on Nov 16th, 2011 at 10:22pm

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Nov 16th, 2011 at 10:18pm:

matty wrote on Nov 16th, 2011 at 10:14pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Nov 16th, 2011 at 10:10pm:

matty wrote on Nov 16th, 2011 at 10:08pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Nov 16th, 2011 at 10:01pm:

matty wrote on Nov 16th, 2011 at 9:58pm:
Once again, and for the last time, it is not true. And you show that again by implying that this thread is based on Alan when it is not. As I said, I am not going to waste my time anymore. If you bring it up again, then I simply won't respond.


What isn't true? I never said the thread was based on Allen. I said your opinions are Allen's.  Different thing.

Why do you think it is okay to be far-right, matty?


My views are not based on Alan. I've had these views 3 years before I even started listening to him.

Good, thanks for asking and staying relevant. I wouldn't identify myself as far-right (maybe in some areas, but not overall), but I believe that everyone is entitled to their own views and opinions, without having to be insulted for simply being of that ideology. If you criticise someone's actual views, then fair enough, but time and again I have hear people simply using "far-right" in the context of an insult. That's completely different. Heck, I would be asking the question if people were using the term "far-left" as insult in itself.

I never asked you why you are far right or to share your experience of being far right (like Allen). I'm asking you why you think it is okay to be far-right.


I already said, everyone is entitled to their ownh views and opinions. There is no good or bad. There is only subjectivity.


So you would have no problem electing someone who had the personal opinion that an authoritarian government would be good for Australia?

Of course I agree that everyone can have their own extreme views. It's when these extreme views are attempted to be sold as mainstream that problems begin.  Hence why we don't need far right or far left people in politics, and why generally far right and far left people are a little wonky (i.e one Allen worshipper and opinion-stealer we know of on this forum, and in fact on this thread too).

Here is a question for you matty: What are 5 far-right opinions?


There you go ruining it again. I thought that we were actually getting into a bit of discussion, but the snide remark about Alan comes again. In future, don't bother.

Title: Re: What is wrong with being far-right?
Post by alevine on Nov 16th, 2011 at 10:23pm

matty wrote on Nov 16th, 2011 at 10:22pm:
There you go ruining it again. I thought that we were actually getting into a bit of discussion, but the snide remark about Alan comes again. In future, don't bother.


I'll take that as you having no idea what far-right means.  Unless you still wish to have a go at naming 5 far-right opinions?

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