Last night I heard on the controlled state media the host interviewing a Dr James Curren from the US Studies Center and Senior Lecturer in the Dept of History at Sydney university seriously discussing the possibility of setting up a US base in Australia the same as Guantanamo Bay - a facility where people can be taken, to be interrogated, tortured and held without due process indefinitely.  They concluded Australian public opinion may not be at that level...yet.  So they are weighing up just how far they can take the suspension of democracy and the imposition of fascism all the time.  I will use the footage in an up coming youtube vlog I will be doing on the forth coming armed US occupation of Australia.

<<armed US occupation of Australia. >>
......................................................

We are being invaded by America, just like the Arab countries only in a conniving way instead of their usual hostile method.

We are an annexe of the USA.

I don't think the present government or any future government will put a stop to the American take over. We are brainwashed.

There were Aussie teens on twitter exclaiming how excited they were that "our" president is coming.

The desired outcome was to render us brain-dead, mission accomplished! now we are easy to control.

I did feel sorry for Darwin at first, but they are only the beginning, the bases will spread like wildfire. They don't want to control the world, they want to own it.

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Nov 17^th, 2011 at 5:32am:

<<armed US occupation of Australia. >> ...................................................... We are being invaded by America, just like the Arab countries only in a conniving way instead of their usual hostile method. We are an annexe of the USA. I don't think the present government or any future government will put a stop to the American take over. We are brainwashed. There were Aussie teens on twitter exclaiming how excited they were that "our" president is coming. The desired outcome was to render us brain-dead, mission accomplished! now we are easy to control. I did feel sorry for Darwin at first, but they are only the beginning, the bases will spread like wildfire. They don't want to control the world, they want to own it.

AND I FEEL SORRY FOR YOUR FAMILY    ;D ;D  You must be such an embarrassment    ;D ;D

FRED. wrote on Nov 17^th, 2011 at 7:35am:

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Nov 17th, 2011 at 5:32am: <<armed US occupation of Australia. >> ...................................................... We are being invaded by America, just like the Arab countries only in a conniving way instead of their usual hostile method. We are an annexe of the USA. I don't think the present government or any future government will put a stop to the American take over. We are brainwashed. There were Aussie teens on twitter exclaiming how excited they were that "our" president is coming. The desired outcome was to render us brain-dead, mission accomplished! now we are easy to control. I did feel sorry for Darwin at first, but they are only the beginning, the bases will spread like wildfire. They don't want to control the world, they want to own it. AND I FEEL SORRY FOR YOUR FAMILY    ;D ;D  You must be such an embarrassment    ;D ;D

now now fred  :D :D :D [smiley=vrolijk_26.gif]

corporate_whitey wrote on Nov 17^th, 2011 at 5:15am:

Last night I heard on the controlled state media the host interviewing a Dr James Curren from the US Studies Center and Senior Lecturer in the Dept of History at Sydney university seriously discussing the possibility of setting up a US base in Australia the same as Guantanamo Bay - a facility where people can be taken, to be interrogated, tortured and held without due process indefinitely.  They concluded Australian public opinion may not be at that level...yet.  So they are weighing up just how far they can take the suspension of democracy and the imposition of fascism all the time.  I will use the footage in an up coming youtube vlog I will be doing on the forth coming armed US occupation of Australia.

Pure science fiction and nothing more.

FRED. wrote on Nov 17^th, 2011 at 7:35am:

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Nov 17th, 2011 at 5:32am: <<armed US occupation of Australia. >> ...................................................... We are being invaded by America, just like the Arab countries only in a conniving way instead of their usual hostile method. We are an annexe of the USA. I don't think the present government or any future government will put a stop to the American take over. We are brainwashed. There were Aussie teens on twitter exclaiming how excited they were that "our" president is coming. The desired outcome was to render us brain-dead, mission accomplished! now we are easy to control. I did feel sorry for Darwin at first, but they are only the beginning, the bases will spread like wildfire. They don't want to control the world, they want to own it. AND I FEEL SORRY FOR YOUR FAMILY    ;D ;D  You must be such an embarrassment    ;D ;D

Enough of the deep and meaningful rhetoric FRED.

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Nov 17^th, 2011 at 7:45am:

FRED. wrote on Nov 17th, 2011 at 7:35am: Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Nov 17th, 2011 at 5:32am: <<armed US occupation of Australia. >> ...................................................... We are being invaded by America, just like the Arab countries only in a conniving way instead of their usual hostile method. We are an annexe of the USA. I don't think the present government or any future government will put a stop to the American take over. We are brainwashed. There were Aussie teens on twitter exclaiming how excited they were that "our" president is coming. The desired outcome was to render us brain-dead, mission accomplished! now we are easy to control. I did feel sorry for Darwin at first, but they are only the beginning, the bases will spread like wildfire. They don't want to control the world, they want to own it. AND I FEEL SORRY FOR YOUR FAMILY    ;D ;D  You must be such an embarrassment    ;D ;D Enough of the deep and meaningful rhetoric FRED.

Like your DUMB COMMENTS    ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Nov 17^th, 2011 at 7:42am:

corporate_whitey wrote on Nov 17th, 2011 at 5:15am: Last night I heard on the controlled state media the host interviewing a Dr James Curren from the US Studies Center and Senior Lecturer in the Dept of History at Sydney university seriously discussing the possibility of setting up a US base in Australia the same as Guantanamo Bay - a facility where people can be taken, to be interrogated, tortured and held without due process indefinitely.  They concluded Australian public opinion may not be at that level...yet.  So they are weighing up just how far they can take the suspension of democracy and the imposition of fascism all the time.  I will use the footage in an up coming youtube vlog I will be doing on the forth coming armed US occupation of Australia. Pure science fiction and nothing more.

a bit like CARBON TAX fixing climate change you mean??? ;D ;D ;D

    http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRC13oK4nHzzbBXn8WkJI32xiy8LRNVTLfUwEA7euRQsZQzzcp_CdF1qH5o


FOR FRED and FriYaY

PMSL, the Americans are coming to take over!!!

Better go out and get some more tin foil for my new hat!

I know perhaps we can round up Hicks and put the traitor away for a bit longer?

A gitmo type installation may be a good place for the unwashed morons that like to camp out in public parks and pretend to represent the 99%?

:D :D :D

longy's afraid Obama will see it if it's in Politics. We must not talk about

AUSTERICA

                                                         like that.




It would be ironical though, all the commotion about the boat people, and he's flying them in in Royal Austerica Air Force planes.

But then again so is having a carbon tax to protect the environment and increasing coal seam gas and uranium mining..........................

hypocrites come to mind?

FriYAY wrote on Nov 17^th, 2011 at 8:20am:

PMSL, the Americans are coming to take over!!! Better go out and get some more tin foil for my new hat! I know perhaps we can round up Hicks and put the traitor away for a bit longer? A gitmo type installation may be a good place for the unwashed morons that like to camp out in public parks and pretend to represent the 99%? :D :D :D

thought you'd be loving it FriYay, all those marines in town. Are you taking Alan with you?

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Nov 17^th, 2011 at 7:42am:

corporate_whitey wrote on Nov 17th, 2011 at 5:15am: Last night I heard on the controlled state media the host interviewing a Dr James Curren from the US Studies Center and Senior Lecturer in the Dept of History at Sydney university seriously discussing the possibility of setting up a US base in Australia the same as Guantanamo Bay - a facility where people can be taken, to be interrogated, tortured and held without due process indefinitely.  They concluded Australian public opinion may not be at that level...yet.  So they are weighing up just how far they can take the suspension of democracy and the imposition of fascism all the time.  I will use the footage in an up coming youtube vlog I will be doing on the forth coming armed US occupation of Australia. Pure science fiction and nothing more.

Well, suspending partisanship for a moment, is it? We haven't been told much detail about these arrangements have we? Leaving aside interrorgations who's going to be doing the castering? What are the employment and economic benefits for Australia?

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Nov 17^th, 2011 at 7:42am:

corporate_whitey wrote on Nov 17th, 2011 at 5:15am: Last night I heard on the controlled state media the host interviewing a Dr James Curren from the US Studies Center and Senior Lecturer in the Dept of History at Sydney university seriously discussing the possibility of setting up a US base in Australia the same as Guantanamo Bay - a facility where people can be taken, to be interrogated, tortured and held without due process indefinitely.  They concluded Australian public opinion may not be at that level...yet.  So they are weighing up just how far they can take the suspension of democracy and the imposition of fascism all the time.  I will use the footage in an up coming youtube vlog I will be doing on the forth coming armed US occupation of Australia. Pure science fiction and nothing more.

Really how is what I just reported science fiction?   I only reported accurately what I heard on the States own controlled media, what I have recorded video footage of and what they themselves touted.  On a daily basis they are rolling out the fascism and militarization of Australias - which is science fiction - my impartial analyses or your implausible denials of the facts?  I reported what I intend to verify in my Vlog, the people can judge for themselves if the State intends to open Guantanamo style detention centers in Australia or place us on a war footing with China with armed US forces on our shore.

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Nov 17^th, 2011 at 8:29am:

FriYAY wrote on Nov 17th, 2011 at 8:20am: PMSL, the Americans are coming to take over!!! Better go out and get some more tin foil for my new hat! I know perhaps we can round up Hicks and put the traitor away for a bit longer? A gitmo type installation may be a good place for the unwashed morons that like to camp out in public parks and pretend to represent the 99%? :D :D :D thought you'd be loving it FriYay, all those marines in town. Are you taking Alan with you?

LOL, what a pathetic little individual you are.

You forgot to call me mellie and sock.

Your slipping puke, lift your game.

The proposed basing of US troops in Australia is a serious issue and begs serious discussion, not the drivel that has been posted in this thread so far. Until someone wants to make a decent contribution I will discuss this elsewhere. :(

Belgarion wrote on Nov 17^th, 2011 at 9:06am:

The proposed basing of US troops in Australia is a serious issue and begs serious discussion, not the drivel that has been posted in this thread so far. Until someone wants to make a decent contribution I will discuss this elsewhere. :(

Jeez bel, you're asking a bit much, aren't you?

When have the resident hysterical society undertaken any rational and valid argument about this sort of stuff. Personally I find it pretty friggen funny.  ;D

Remember it must be fact because it's on video and the source is from the US so it must be absolutely true.  ;D

Grey wrote on Nov 17^th, 2011 at 8:41am:

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Nov 17th, 2011 at 7:42am: corporate_whitey wrote on Nov 17th, 2011 at 5:15am: Last night I heard on the controlled state media the host interviewing a Dr James Curren from the US Studies Center and Senior Lecturer in the Dept of History at Sydney university seriously discussing the possibility of setting up a US base in Australia the same as Guantanamo Bay - a facility where people can be taken, to be interrogated, tortured and held without due process indefinitely.  They concluded Australian public opinion may not be at that level...yet.  So they are weighing up just how far they can take the suspension of democracy and the imposition of fascism all the time.  I will use the footage in an up coming youtube vlog I will be doing on the forth coming armed US occupation of Australia. Pure science fiction and nothing more. Well, suspending partisanship for a moment, is it? We haven't been told much detail about these arrangements have we? Leaving aside interrorgations who's going to be doing the castering? What are the employment and economic benefits for Australia?

It's a Marine base....I'd think they'll hire locals for basic non-classifed work...Food prep, clerical stuff...general support staff work.....

Plus buying locally sourced goods, and of course off-base entertainment (restaurants, pubs, shops, tourism etc)....Military bases are always good for local economies...Look at Wagga Wagga for example, it basically lives off Kapooka army and Forest Hill airforce/navy air corp training facilities

You will find that US military bases are self contained communities and the occupants have little need to rely on local businesses for their needs. given that 2500 personnel is a fairly small size by US standards there may not be the full range of facilities but there will be bars, fast food outlets, shops and recreational facilities that will be much cheaper than the local alternatives.

Ok, the yanks are NOT getting their own base, they will be allocated a part of Robertson Barracks in Darwin, they will use common facilities and provide thier own specialist requirements were required.

The US has had small contingents based on Australian military bases for decades, this one will be a bit larger.

There is no conspiracy.

gizmo_2655 wrote on Nov 17^th, 2011 at 10:47am:

Grey wrote on Nov 17th, 2011 at 8:41am: chicken_lipsforme wrote on Nov 17th, 2011 at 7:42am: corporate_whitey wrote on Nov 17th, 2011 at 5:15am: Last night I heard on the controlled state media the host interviewing a Dr James Curren from the US Studies Center and Senior Lecturer in the Dept of History at Sydney university seriously discussing the possibility of setting up a US base in Australia the same as Guantanamo Bay - a facility where people can be taken, to be interrogated, tortured and held without due process indefinitely.  They concluded Australian public opinion may not be at that level...yet.  So they are weighing up just how far they can take the suspension of democracy and the imposition of fascism all the time.  I will use the footage in an up coming youtube vlog I will be doing on the forth coming armed US occupation of Australia. Pure science fiction and nothing more. Well, suspending partisanship for a moment, is it? We haven't been told much detail about these arrangements have we? Leaving aside interrorgations who's going to be doing the castering? What are the employment and economic benefits for Australia? It's a Marine base....I'd think they'll hire locals for basic non-classifed work...Food prep, clerical stuff...general support staff work..... Plus buying locally sourced goods, and of course off-base entertainment (restaurants, pubs, shops, tourism etc)....Military bases are always good for local economies...Look at Wagga Wagga for example, it basically lives off Kapooka army and Forest Hill airforce/navy air corp training facilities

Aren't they just using an existing barracks?

Belgarion wrote on Nov 17^th, 2011 at 11:28am:

You will find that US military bases are self contained communities and the occupants have little need to rely on local businesses for their needs. given that 2500 personnel is a fairly small size by US standards there may not be the full range of facilities but there will be bars, fast food outlets, shops and recreational facilities that will be much cheaper than the local alternatives.

Yes, but there are less restrictions on what you do, outside the base....

Even in the US, the service personnel tend to drink and eat outside the bases...Much the same as here really...

... wrote on Nov 17^th, 2011 at 11:41am:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Nov 17th, 2011 at 10:47am: Grey wrote on Nov 17th, 2011 at 8:41am: chicken_lipsforme wrote on Nov 17th, 2011 at 7:42am: corporate_whitey wrote on Nov 17th, 2011 at 5:15am: Last night I heard on the controlled state media the host interviewing a Dr James Curren from the US Studies Center and Senior Lecturer in the Dept of History at Sydney university seriously discussing the possibility of setting up a US base in Australia the same as Guantanamo Bay - a facility where people can be taken, to be interrogated, tortured and held without due process indefinitely.  They concluded Australian public opinion may not be at that level...yet.  So they are weighing up just how far they can take the suspension of democracy and the imposition of fascism all the time.  I will use the footage in an up coming youtube vlog I will be doing on the forth coming armed US occupation of Australia. Pure science fiction and nothing more. Well, suspending partisanship for a moment, is it? We haven't been told much detail about these arrangements have we? Leaving aside interrorgations who's going to be doing the castering? What are the employment and economic benefits for Australia? It's a Marine base....I'd think they'll hire locals for basic non-classifed work...Food prep, clerical stuff...general support staff work..... Plus buying locally sourced goods, and of course off-base entertainment (restaurants, pubs, shops, tourism etc)....Military bases are always good for local economies...Look at Wagga Wagga for example, it basically lives off Kapooka army and Forest Hill airforce/navy air corp training facilities Aren't they just using an existing barracks?

Don't know....quite possible. Which means it's more likely they'll seek entertainment in the town.....since our bases don't really have all the facilities that the US bases do...

Quote:

It's a Marine base....I'd think they'll...

You can stop right there.


Belgarion wrote on Nov 17^th, 2011 at 11:28am:

You will find that US military bases are self contained communities and the occupants have little need to rely on local businesses for their needs. given that 2500 personnel is a fairly small size by US standards there may not be the full range of facilities but there will be bars, fast food outlets, shops and recreational facilities that will be much cheaper than the local alternatives.

That's right, and personally I doubt very much that it'll stop at 2,500 for long. That's just getting a foot in the door. So unless there's a contract for buying local all we have is a loss of sovreignty weighed against strategic interests. And the strategic interests are extremely complex.

There's no doubt that Gillard's reversal of policy regarding supply of uranium to India is part of the strategic tapestry she's neen weaving with Obama over the past month. Geographically Darwin would complete a network of major US bases. And is particularly necessary as some, like Okinawa. Come under regular unfavourable scrutiny by host nations.

http://www.jcp.or.jp/tokusyu/okinawa/Okinawa.pdf

http://www.commondreams.org/views04/0115-08.htm

I'm quite aware that those links come from what might be viewed as exteme left positions. Nevertheless the facts are facts. Do we really want a 'camp bondsteel' in the NT.?


Quote:

The post exchange (PX) is the largest military exchange in south eastern Europe and contains all the necessities and more that someone may need while in Kosovo, including TVs, phones, books, DVDs, CDs, small furniture, video games, computers, clothes, shoes, food, and more, all in its two story building.[1] The base also has, arguably, the best hospital in Kosovo; a movie theater; one gym; two recreation buildings that have phones, computers with internet connection, pool tables, video games and more; one chapel with various religious services and other activities; one large dining facility; a fire station; a military police station; the Laura Bush education center where classes are offered through the University of Maryland University College and Central Texas College; two cappuccino bars, a Burger King, Taco Bell, and an Anthony's Pizza pizzeria; one barber shops; one laundry facilities employing local nationals who do the laundry for those living on base; one press shops; a sewing shop; My Thai massage shops employing mostly Thai women who conduct various massages and are regulated by military officials; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camp_Bondsteel

Australian women will be pack raped by armed US Marines like in Japan and the US will refuse to hand those rapists over for trial.  I bet they have not even addressed the issue of rape because they know it will be covered up.

Grey wrote on Nov 17^th, 2011 at 12:19pm:

Quote: It's a Marine base....I'd think they'll... You can stop right there. Belgarion wrote on Nov 17th, 2011 at 11:28am: You will find that US military bases are self contained communities and the occupants have little need to rely on local businesses for their needs. given that 2500 personnel is a fairly small size by US standards there may not be the full range of facilities but there will be bars, fast food outlets, shops and recreational facilities that will be much cheaper than the local alternatives. That's right, and personally I doubt very much that it'll stop at 2,500 for long. That's just getting a foot in the door. So unless there's a contract for buying local all we have is a loss of sovreignty weighed against strategic interests. And the strategic interests are extremely complex. There's no doubt that Gillard's reversal of policy regarding supply of uranium to India is part of the strategic tapestry she's neen weaving with Obama over the past month. Geographically Darwin would complete a network of major US bases. And is particularly necessary as some, like Okinawa. Come under regular unfavourable scrutiny by host nations. http://www.jcp.or.jp/tokusyu/okinawa/Okinawa.pdf http://www.commondreams.org/views04/0115-08.htm I'm quite aware that those links come from what might be viewed as exteme left positions. Nevertheless the facts are facts. Do we really want a 'camp bondsteel' in the NT.? [quote]The post exchange (PX) is the largest military exchange in south eastern Europe and contains all the necessities and more that someone may need while in Kosovo, including TVs, phones, books, DVDs, CDs, small furniture, video games, computers, clothes, shoes, food, and more, all in its two story building.[1] The base also has, arguably, the best hospital in Kosovo; a movie theater; one gym; two recreation buildings that have phones, computers with internet connection, pool tables, video games and more; one chapel with various religious services and other activities; one large dining facility; a fire station; a military police station; the Laura Bush education center where classes are offered through the University of Maryland University College and Central Texas College; two cappuccino bars, a Burger King, Taco Bell, and an Anthony's Pizza pizzeria; one barber shops; one laundry facilities employing local nationals who do the laundry for those living on base; one press shops; a sewing shop; My Thai massage shops employing mostly Thai women who conduct various massages and are regulated by military officials; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camp_Bondsteel

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Oh come on Grey.....Do you seriously think they're going to import their meat, bread, fruit and veges from America??????

And remember it's NOT a US base..it's an Australian facility, with some barracks and warehouses set aside for US use...

We don't know the ins and outs of this arrangement yet. It may be that the facilites built for the US forces are integrated into the Australian base and there will not be the 'little America' setup common to US overseas bases. However if this is to be a permanent arrangement I can see the US eventuallly wanting to construct the facilites their people are used to on an overseas posting.

It may not reach the totally self sufficient stage it does in other parts of the world, but the US personnel stationed there will not need to shop in the local community for all their needs either.

Belgarion wrote on Nov 17^th, 2011 at 1:53pm:

We don't know the ins and outs of this arrangement yet. It may be that the facilites built for the US forces are integrated into the Australian base and there will not be the 'little America' setup common to US overseas bases. However if this is to be a permanent arrangement I can see the US eventuallly wanting to construct the facilites their people are used to on an overseas posting. It may not reach the totally self sufficient stage it does in other parts of the world, but the US personnel stationed there will not need to shop in the local community for all their needs either.

I agree, any thoughts on the geo-political implications Bel?

Belgarion wrote on Nov 17^th, 2011 at 1:53pm:

We don't know the ins and outs of this arrangement yet. It may be that the facilites built for the US forces are integrated into the Australian base and there will not be the 'little America' setup common to US overseas bases. However if this is to be a permanent arrangement I can see the US eventuallly wanting to construct the facilites their people are used to on an overseas posting. It may not reach the totally self sufficient stage it does in other parts of the world, but the US personnel stationed there will not need to shop in the local community for all their needs either.

Here's the 'ins and outs', they will be based at Robertson Barracks, it's an Australian military facility, they will intergrate with the standards of the base as they have always done in the past.

Yeh, that's right the US has had a semi-permenant presence on Australian bases before and that caused a huge problem didn't it?

They did not:

build their own base within our base

import their food from the US

expand exponetially from the argeed contingent

commit crimes against Australians and evade justice.

You people are carrying on like we're being friggen invaded and taken over by the US.  >:(

BigOl64 wrote on Nov 17^th, 2011 at 2:50pm:

Belgarion wrote on Nov 17th, 2011 at 1:53pm: We don't know the ins and outs of this arrangement yet. It may be that the facilites built for the US forces are integrated into the Australian base and there will not be the 'little America' setup common to US overseas bases. However if this is to be a permanent arrangement I can see the US eventuallly wanting to construct the facilites their people are used to on an overseas posting. It may not reach the totally self sufficient stage it does in other parts of the world, but the US personnel stationed there will not need to shop in the local community for all their needs either. Here's the 'ins and outs', they will be based at Robertson Barracks, it's an Australian military facility, they will intergrate with the standards of the base as they have always done in the past. Yeh, that's right the US has had a semi-permenant presence on Australian bases before and that caused a huge problem didn't it? They did not: build their own base within our base import their food from the US expand exponetially from the argeed contingent commit crimes against Australians and evade justice. You people are carrying on like we're being friggen invaded and taken over by the US.  >:(

Didn't you know Bigol??.....America is the 'new' Satan... ;D ;D

BigOl64 wrote on Nov 17^th, 2011 at 2:50pm:

Belgarion wrote on Nov 17th, 2011 at 1:53pm: We don't know the ins and outs of this arrangement yet. It may be that the facilities built for the US forces are integrated into the Australian base and there will not be the 'little America' setup common to US overseas bases. However if this is to be a permanent arrangement I can see the US eventually wanting to construct the facilities their people are used to on an overseas posting. It may not reach the totally self sufficient stage it does in other parts of the world, but the US personnel stationed there will not need to shop in the local community for all their needs either. Here's the 'ins and outs', they will be based at Robertson Barracks, it's an Australian military facility, they will intergrate with the standards of the base as they have always done in the past. Yeh, that's right the US has had a semi-permenant presence on Australian bases before and that caused a huge problem didn't it? They did not: build their own base within our base import their food from the US expand exponetially from the argeed contingent commit crimes against Australians and evade justice. You people are carrying on like we're being friggen invaded and taken over by the US.  >:(

I saw with my own eyes the setup at NAVCOMSTA H E Holt. It was a little piece of  America set down in Australia, to the extent that on base traffic drove on the right. Exmouth was a small, isloted community that could not provide all the things needed  therefore they imported most of it - including food, but the precedent is there should the US wish to become more self sufficient in Darwin.

This is not a continuing rotation of troops on a temprary basis for training purposes, but a permanent deplyment. The longer this arrangement goes on the more likely the US will want to provide its own facilites.

Belgarion wrote on Nov 17^th, 2011 at 3:23pm:

I saw with my own eyes the setup at NAVCOMSTA H E Holt. It was a little piece of  America set down in Australia, to the extent that on base traffic drove on the right. Exmouth was a small, isloted community that could not provide all the things needed  therefore they imported most of it - including food, but the precedent is there should the US wish to become more self sufficient in Darwin. This is not a continuing rotation of troops on a temprary basis for training purposes, but a permanent deplyment. The longer this arrangement goes on the more likely the US will want to provide its own facilites.

Now you're talking about US spy bases on our soil, which are stand alone US / Aust spy facilities, mostly US. These are nothing like a small semi-permenant contingent of US servicemen and women based at Australian defence establishements, as is the case here.

While apples and oranges are both fruit, they are not the same fruit.


As for your assertion "This is not a continuing rotation of troops on a temprary basis for training purposes, but a permanent deplyment".

Well that's exactly what it is. This has all been done before, we have had small US military contingents stationed on our bases since the viet nam war and guess what, it wasn't a prelude to an all out invasion then and it isn't now.


Under the deal, announced by Barack Obama and Julia Gillard last night, US military and air force personnel will rotate through Northern Territory bases for six months each year during the Top End's dry season.

http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/national/united-states-armed-forces-to-hold-regular-training-exercises-in-australia-as-part-of-historic-deal-announced-during-us-president-barack-obamas-visit/story-e6freooo-1226197114955

you invite polar bears to dinner they'll sit anywhere they frigging want.

corporate_whitey wrote on Nov 17^th, 2011 at 8:47am:

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Nov 17th, 2011 at 7:42am: corporate_whitey wrote on Nov 17th, 2011 at 5:15am: Last night I heard on the controlled state media the host interviewing a Dr James Curren from the US Studies Center and Senior Lecturer in the Dept of History at Sydney university seriously discussing the possibility of setting up a US base in Australia the same as Guantanamo Bay - a facility where people can be taken, to be interrogated, tortured and held without due process indefinitely.  They concluded Australian public opinion may not be at that level...yet.  So they are weighing up just how far they can take the suspension of democracy and the imposition of fascism all the time.  I will use the footage in an up coming youtube vlog I will be doing on the forth coming armed US occupation of Australia. Pure science fiction and nothing more. Really how is what I just reported science fiction?   I only reported accurately what I heard on the States own controlled media, what I have recorded video footage of and what they themselves touted.  On a daily basis they are rolling out the fascism and militarization of Australias - which is science fiction - my impartial analyses or your implausible denials of the facts?  I reported what I intend to verify in my Vlog, the people can judge for themselves if the State intends to open Guantanamo style detention centers in Australia or place us on a war footing with China with armed US forces on our shore.

I am strongly in favour of fascists amerikkkan occupation  - as long as you are upset and apoplectic. I consider it a small price.