Well, once again it is the time of year when political analysts look into their crystal balls and make predictions for the coming year based on their intimate knowledge of the people and the process.

And get it totally wrong.

Politics is often unpredictable beyond today and perhaps tomorrow, but that doesn’t stop us trying to make our own efforts at prognostication and with those comments in mind, here come my enlightened efforts.

Just as 2012 will not see the end of the world, I agree with John Howard’s assessment that the Gillard Government will survive the year intact. That said, there are some very real danger signs around that could still send this fragile government to an early execution. The Craig Thomson affair could still blow up and the extraordinarily slow investigations into his all-too-obvious misdeeds might finally have a result leading to criminal prosecution. And the new Speaker of the House may have bought Gillard an extra vote for now, but his poor reputation and dubious ability may bring the same kind of tantrums and craziness that Peter Lewis inflicted on the SA parliament earlier this century. With Wilkie sidelined by the Slipper episode and his proposed pokie laws unlikely to ever see the light of day, how will he respond? My crystal ball predicts a short-lived tantrum followed by a long-drawn out case of RDS (Relevance Deprivation Syndrome). Labor won’t need his vote and the Liberals won’t buy it.

The NBN will continue to fall behind schedule just as has done since its very first day of operation. Despite the protestations from the government and NBN Corp itself, it has fallen well behind every single one of its own milestones. The real risk is that the project is so big and the scope so vast that it will take twice as long and cost three times as much as promised. Opera House, anyone?

Rob Oakeshott will continue to believe he can be re-elected while still unsure why so many people dislike him. Some things never change and some people never learn.

The Opposition Leader with the greatest amount of media access since Federation will finally discover the potentially toxic flip-side to this rare phenomenon - people are actually listening to him. While called ‘Dr No’ by those without any appreciation of political history or the fact that Oppositions have all blocked government legislation, Tony Abbott will need to counter this damaging perception with some positive policies. He has been the most successful Opposition Leader ever, taking the coalition from a killing field to leading by the highest margin ever. But his personal popularity is poor and only salvaged by a Prime Minister disliked by almost everyone. His position is assured by virtue of his massive electoral lead, but his often negative approach will take the edge off what could otherwise be a monstrous margin. The Coalition lacks a John Howard whose political savvy and common touch could take the current hatred of the ALP and turn it into a bloodbath.

On that note, it is a pretty safe bet to predict that the Gillard Government’s polls will remain in the cellar. It is in fact probably the only safe bet of the year. For that to change would require the entire Coalition Front Bench to be charged with serious crimes and for the Gillard Government to get a major policy implemented competently. Suffice to say that neither is very likely.
The Carbon Tax will be implemented.  Life will go on and industry will not die. However, just like WorkChoices did not harm anyone personally and yet destroyed John Howard and his Government, the unwanted and much maligned tax will ensure the Government’s defeat - in 2013.

Kevin Rudd will make a leadership challenge - and fail. With Julia Gillard leading the ALP to a Whitlamesque annihilation, many in the ALP already believe their only hope of salvation is in Kevin Rudd returning to the Lodge. It is a sound strategy supported by polls that tip a significant boost  if Rudd were to resume the Leadership, but it will fail and the fallout will be yet another large swathe of Labor supporters parking their votes with Tony Abbott’s Coalition.

Newly elected Greens Senator Lee Rhiannon will revert to form - she is a former Communist - and destabilise the Greens. With Green preferences being  the only way that half the current Labor Caucus are elected, a collapse in Green votes would be catastrophic for the ALP. With Bob Brown retiring at the next election, the leadership vacuum will become very obvious in 2012. If Lee Rhiannon has her way and she begins her anti-semitic tirade in the Senate then the Federal Greens could experience similar disasters as they did in the NSW election of March 2011. In only a couple of months the BDS policy of the Greens lopped a full 7% from their polls. A similar result federally could see the Greens reduced to just one or two senators and no MPs and being well on their way to a Democrats-like end.

Joe Hockey will learn something about economics just in time for Abbott to recognise the inevitable and promote the highly capable Malcolm Turnball to the number two position.

And while I am on Turnball predictions, I see him retaining his Keating -like petulance in always wanting his own way. Unlike Keating however, that petulance will continue to deny him the top spot. Petulant arrogance is only tolerated if you win.

Economically, the country is going to suffer. Hardly news really. While the Greeks continue to stumble with the concepts of work and paying taxes and the Italians still don’t realise that electing porn stars and buffoons hasn’t worked out all that well, the European slow-train wreck will finally derail and push the world into yet another deep recession. Our own economy is nowhere near as well placed as it was in 2008 and so this one will hurt.  I predict a small rise in unemployment and a ballooning federal debt.

The oft-promised surplus will not appear.

Well, that’s enough from me.  I will revisit this in twelve months time and then make a long-winded excuse for my many failed predictions. But there is one prediction that is solid-gold:

“There will be no carbon tax in any government I lead” will haunt and finally destroy the Gillard Government.

There will be no carbon tax in any government I lead” will haunt and finally destroy the Gillard Government.




no arguments on that score..

I see slipper being one huge problem..

how do you get rid of a badly performing speaker does anyone know.?


pokermachines will be another wart I cant see that passing and making one iota of difference..

I also see the people wanting more honesty and truth in our govt...

we are sick of the pretending..and c arrots that seem to come up every week just to be taken away the next week..

If you get nearly all or a majority of those predictions right, you will be a true modern successor to nostrodamus, Longy Lol

Ron Paul for Prime Minister of Australia.

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jan 5^th, 2012 at 9:56am:

Ron Paul for Prime Minister of Australia.

if you really want my vote.//. HUGE JACKMAN

Ive learnt from my past experience not to make predictions, i have and probably will be off by a mile, but your predictions are interesting in the context of your reasoning there Longy.

But whether Juliar Gilliard will soundly be defeated in the next election I HOPE SO, SHE AND LABOR CERTAINLY NEEDS TO BE PUNISHED BY THE ELECTORATE FOR THAT BIG NO CARBON TAX FIB , But iv known from past experience to never write off Labor easily when they are in election mode

Australia desperately needs a Ron Paul to vote for. The current batch of politicians on both sides, would have be the biggest pathetic bunch of losers this Nation has ever had the misfortune to produce.

If we the people don’t quickly start demanding more referendums on important issues and start taking back power that politicians underhandedly gave themselves, then we, your children and grandchildren are going to be in very big trouble.

Why the hell should we the tax payers be paying the salaries of the “opposition politicians” in Federal and State Governments & all their staff to do nothing more than sit around in Parliament and ask the Government in power bloody questions.

Besides asking questions and pointing out Government failures, what else is the opposition politicians getting $150K salaries to do?  They have NO effective power in either the upper or lower house, so what are they doing for their $150k salaries besides asking the same boring questions and pointing out the same boring Government failures?

Could you wish for anyone better besides the “mad monk” to look more stupid and incompetent with ad campaigns during election time? 

How many perfect potential ad situations could you use regarding Abbott standing there like a nutter when the media caught him about what he said about that soldier dying.

Aussies have an international reputation for being backward and dumb-arse, so don’t be surprised if Gillard wins again.

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Australia desperately needs a Ron Paul to vote for. The current batch of politicians on both sides, would have be the biggest pathetic bunch of losers this Nation has ever had the misfortune to produce

Australia needs a Ron Paul, ????

Do we need a man like Ron Paul who dismisses a nuclear armed Iran a threat to the middle east and the world ???

While Ron Paul speaks some truth about the current flaws of the US government apparatus, HE IS WAY OFF MAJORITY OPINIONS ON OTHER ISSUES SUCH AS IRAN that the other current GOP candidates have criticized him for

culldav wrote on Jan 5^th, 2012 at 10:18am:

Australia desperately needs a Ron Paul to vote for. The current batch of politicians on both sides, would have be the biggest pathetic bunch of losers this Nation has ever had the misfortune to produce. If we the people don’t quickly start demanding more referendums on important issues and start taking back power that politicians underhandedly gave themselves, then we, your children and grandchildren are going to be in very big trouble. Why the hell should we the tax payers be paying the salaries of the “opposition politicians” in Federal and State Governments & all their staff to do nothing more than sit around in Parliament and ask the Government in power bloody questions. Besides asking questions and pointing out Government failures, what else is the opposition politicians getting $150K salaries to do?  They have NO effective power in either the upper or lower house, so what are they doing for their $150k salaries besides asking the same boring questions and pointing out the same boring Government failures?

you deserve the dangerous outcome of your idea. no opposition means no accountability which effectively means no democracy.

Gillard will slowly rise in the polls, and Abbott will continue his slow fall.
By the end of 2012 both parties will be close to each other (within 2 points) on 2PP.

I doubt either leader will be challenged in 2012.  In fact, I suspect a fairly quite year as the policy changes of 2011 kick in.

Nats will wake up and realise that being in coalition with Libs, will be the death of the party.


Why, because 2013 federal election will be a referendum on fracking and coal seam gas destruction of our agriculture, water, environment, and risking most australian's biggest financial investment, their homes due to earthquakes.

LibLabs support for the coal lobby donations over the majorities desire to have a moratorium on the industry ... LibLab making coal gas a renewable energy so to push out renewables from the 20% target to keep the coal lobby donators happy.

In the mean time nats straddle both sides of the barb wire fence, bitches to Libs and pretending to care about regional Australians.

Nats 11 house of rep members, and senators up again will be hard pressed to hold on when Independents and Greens take them on over their anti Australian stance.

So my prediction for this year, Nats will pull out of the coalition and Abbott will lose the leadership due to losing the support of the Nats, Libs they have taken for granted. 

Turnbull will be elected leader and will turn the Libs against Fracking and Coal Seam gas in an attempt to win back the Nats. 

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 5^th, 2012 at 10:38am:

culldav wrote on Jan 5th, 2012 at 10:18am: Australia desperately needs a Ron Paul to vote for. The current batch of politicians on both sides, would have be the biggest pathetic bunch of losers this Nation has ever had the misfortune to produce. If we the people don’t quickly start demanding more referendums on important issues and start taking back power that politicians underhandedly gave themselves, then we, your children and grandchildren are going to be in very big trouble. Why the hell should we the tax payers be paying the salaries of the “opposition politicians” in Federal and State Governments & all their staff to do nothing more than sit around in Parliament and ask the Government in power bloody questions. Besides asking questions and pointing out Government failures, what else is the opposition politicians getting $150K salaries to do?  They have NO effective power in either the upper or lower house, so what are they doing for their $150k salaries besides asking the same boring questions and pointing out the same boring Government failures? you deserve the dangerous outcome of your idea. no opposition means no accountability which effectively means no democracy.

No, Currently the labor party creates a policy which is essentially centre-left.  To get it through parliment they have to compromise that policy to get enough votes. They can compromise to the Greens, to independents, or the liberal party.   The liberal party being the most mainstream of that bunch would seem the best outcome for Australia.  But Tony says "No".

Gillard will not find the long lost packet of 'Competence' in the bathroom cabinet in 2012, and will lead Labor from one disaster of their own making to another until they face destiny at the ballot next year.
And it won't be pretty for Labor.

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 5^th, 2012 at 10:38am:

culldav wrote on Jan 5th, 2012 at 10:18am: Australia desperately needs a Ron Paul to vote for. The current batch of politicians on both sides, would have be the biggest pathetic bunch of losers this Nation has ever had the misfortune to produce. If we the people don’t quickly start demanding more referendums on important issues and start taking back power that politicians underhandedly gave themselves, then we, your children and grandchildren are going to be in very big trouble. Why the hell should we the tax payers be paying the salaries of the “opposition politicians” in Federal and State Governments & all their staff to do nothing more than sit around in Parliament and ask the Government in power bloody questions. Besides asking questions and pointing out Government failures, what else is the opposition politicians getting $150K salaries to do?  They have NO effective power in either the upper or lower house, so what are they doing for their $150k salaries besides asking the same boring questions and pointing out the same boring Government failures? you deserve the dangerous outcome of your idea. no opposition means no accountability which effectively means no democracy.

I think the media "break" more stories and hold the serving Government to more accountable than any opposition I'm aware of past or present. 

Maybe you could give just a few examples of how both opposition Education, Defense, Communications Liberal & Labor ministers just to name a few; have directly made each other accountable when they have been in opposition - that's been a media worthy besides the NBN?   

What will we get if Tony Abbott becomes PM???

Dump the carbon tax and the revenue that it will generate???

Dump the mining tax and the revenue it will generate???

Dump the NBN no matter how much is laid and forgo any revenue a completed state of the art communications network will generate???

Dump the buyback for the Murray Darling river system and provide no certainty to people in South Australia who will suffer the consequences of such a short sighted policy???

Provide tax cuts to everyone which will be skewed towards high income earners???

Provide a paid maternity leave scheme that rewards wealth and will cost a lot more than Labor’s policy???

Cut 10 000 public service jobs to pay for his negative politics???

Cut 70 billion in services from the budget to pay for his negative politics???

Return to work choices under another name???

Join the war in Iran if the Republicans win the next USA election???

Destroy the environment with direct action that will achieve nothing???

Destroy renewable energy programs in favour of coal mining???

Tony Abbott will destroy Australia if he becomes PM.....that is my prediction!!!

>:(

philperth2010 wrote on Jan 5^th, 2012 at 12:53pm:

What will we get if Tony Abbott becomes PM??? Dump the carbon tax and the revenue that it will generate??? Dump the mining tax and the revenue it will generate??? Dump the NBN no matter how much is laid and forgo any revenue a completed state of the art communications network will generate??? Dump the buyback for the Murray Darling river system and provide no certainty to people in South Australia who will suffer the consequences of such a short sighted policy??? Provide tax cuts to everyone which will be skewed towards high income earners??? Provide a paid maternity leave scheme that rewards wealth and will cost a lot more than Labor’s policy??? Cut 10 000 public service jobs to pay for his negative politics??? Cut 70 billion in services from the budget to pay for his negative politics??? Return to work choices under another name??? Join the war in Iran if the Republicans win the next USA election??? Destroy the environment with direct action that will achieve nothing??? Destroy renewable energy programs in favour of coal mining??? Tony Abbott will destroy Australia if he becomes PM.....that is my prediction!!! >:(

Now now Phil.
If you were really a genuine Haruspex, the IPCC would already have you making futuristic climate change predictions for them. :)
Meanwhile, back at the ranch, we will all have to wait and see what Prime Minister Abbott actually does achieve during his term.

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Jan 5^th, 2012 at 1:05pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Jan 5th, 2012 at 12:53pm: What will we get if Tony Abbott becomes PM??? Dump the carbon tax and the revenue that it will generate??? Dump the mining tax and the revenue it will generate??? Dump the NBN no matter how much is laid and forgo any revenue a completed state of the art communications network will generate??? Dump the buyback for the Murray Darling river system and provide no certainty to people in South Australia who will suffer the consequences of such a short sighted policy??? Provide tax cuts to everyone which will be skewed towards high income earners??? Provide a paid maternity leave scheme that rewards wealth and will cost a lot more than Labor’s policy??? Cut 10 000 public service jobs to pay for his negative politics??? Cut 70 billion in services from the budget to pay for his negative politics??? Return to work choices under another name??? Join the war in Iran if the Republicans win the next USA election??? Destroy the environment with direct action that will achieve nothing??? Destroy renewable energy programs in favour of coal mining??? Tony Abbott will destroy Australia if he becomes PM.....that is my prediction!!! >:( Now now Phil. If you were really a genuine Haruspex, the IPCC would already have you making futuristic climate change predictions for them. :) Meanwhile, back at the ranch, we will all have to wait and see what Prime Minister Abbott actually does achieve during his term.

The Lame Duck Tony Abbott?


Lame because of not controlling the Senate, and lame because the Nats have pulled out of the coalition.

No thinking Australian will vote a guy who has turned business confidence and investment into his kicking ball. No one who wants to be unemployed will vote for Mister No.

Hey greenslime. You are taking up precious space on this earth. Why don't you top yourself so someone that is sensible and sane can find  a space?

blackadder wrote on Jan 5^th, 2012 at 1:44pm:

Hey greenslime. You are taking up precious space on this earth. Why don't you top yourself so someone that is sensible and sane can find  a space?

admitting defeat aye?

Ms Gillard and Labor will continue to be unable to sell a single concept.
Wayne Swan will get even worse at public speaking.
Mr Abbott will continue to say "No!".
Barnaby Joyce will finally admit he's just been yanking our collective chains and go on a nationwide tour of comedy venues.
Joe Hockey's concept of economics will get whackier.
Boat people keep on arriving - both parties continue to blame each other.

blackadder wrote on Jan 5^th, 2012 at 1:44pm:

Hey greenslime. You are taking up precious space on this earth. Why don't you top yourself so someone that is sensible and sane can find  a space?

That comment is way out of order.

Prediction?

labor will continue to poll poorly - they may somehow crawl through the year still in power but this looks more and more like a lameduck unpopular Government.

Tony Abbott will be the next (elected) Prime Minister of Australia, it may not be in 2012 but it will be the case.

____ wrote on Jan 5^th, 2012 at 1:39pm:

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Jan 5th, 2012 at 1:05pm: philperth2010 wrote on Jan 5th, 2012 at 12:53pm: What will we get if Tony Abbott becomes PM??? Dump the carbon tax and the revenue that it will generate??? Dump the mining tax and the revenue it will generate??? Dump the NBN no matter how much is laid and forgo any revenue a completed state of the art communications network will generate??? Dump the buyback for the Murray Darling river system and provide no certainty to people in South Australia who will suffer the consequences of such a short sighted policy??? Provide tax cuts to everyone which will be skewed towards high income earners??? Provide a paid maternity leave scheme that rewards wealth and will cost a lot more than Labor’s policy??? Cut 10 000 public service jobs to pay for his negative politics??? Cut 70 billion in services from the budget to pay for his negative politics??? Return to work choices under another name??? Join the war in Iran if the Republicans win the next USA election??? Destroy the environment with direct action that will achieve nothing??? Destroy renewable energy programs in favour of coal mining??? Tony Abbott will destroy Australia if he becomes PM.....that is my prediction!!! >:( Now now Phil. If you were really a genuine Haruspex, the IPCC would already have you making futuristic climate change predictions for them. :) Meanwhile, back at the ranch, we will all have to wait and see what Prime Minister Abbott actually does achieve during his term. The Lame Duck Tony Abbott? Lame because of not controlling the Senate, and lame because the Nats have pulled out of the coalition. No thinking Australian will vote a guy who has turned business confidence and investment into his kicking ball. No one who wants to be unemployed will vote for Mister No.

Are you referring to the same lame duck Tony Abbott that has his 2nd Labor PM's scalp in his sights.
He's doing his job, pity Labor cant do the same.

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Jan 5^th, 2012 at 2:30pm:

____ wrote on Jan 5th, 2012 at 1:39pm: chicken_lipsforme wrote on Jan 5th, 2012 at 1:05pm: philperth2010 wrote on Jan 5th, 2012 at 12:53pm: What will we get if Tony Abbott becomes PM??? Dump the carbon tax and the revenue that it will generate??? Dump the mining tax and the revenue it will generate??? Dump the NBN no matter how much is laid and forgo any revenue a completed state of the art communications network will generate??? Dump the buyback for the Murray Darling river system and provide no certainty to people in South Australia who will suffer the consequences of such a short sighted policy??? Provide tax cuts to everyone which will be skewed towards high income earners??? Provide a paid maternity leave scheme that rewards wealth and will cost a lot more than Labor’s policy??? Cut 10 000 public service jobs to pay for his negative politics??? Cut 70 billion in services from the budget to pay for his negative politics??? Return to work choices under another name??? Join the war in Iran if the Republicans win the next USA election??? Destroy the environment with direct action that will achieve nothing??? Destroy renewable energy programs in favour of coal mining??? Tony Abbott will destroy Australia if he becomes PM.....that is my prediction!!! >:( Now now Phil. If you were really a genuine Haruspex, the IPCC would already have you making futuristic climate change predictions for them. :) Meanwhile, back at the ranch, we will all have to wait and see what Prime Minister Abbott actually does achieve during his term. The Lame Duck Tony Abbott? Lame because of not controlling the Senate, and lame because the Nats have pulled out of the coalition. No thinking Australian will vote a guy who has turned business confidence and investment into his kicking ball. No one who wants to be unemployed will vote for Mister No. Are you referring to the same lame duck Tony Abbott that has his 2nd Labor PM's scalp in his sights. He's doing his job, pity Labor cant do the same.

So Mr Lame Duck thinks his job is to remove the puppets of the faceless factional men of Labor.


No wonder he is taking the conservatives further into the political wilderness.

culldav wrote on Jan 5^th, 2012 at 12:25pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 5th, 2012 at 10:38am: culldav wrote on Jan 5th, 2012 at 10:18am: Australia desperately needs a Ron Paul to vote for. The current batch of politicians on both sides, would have be the biggest pathetic bunch of losers this Nation has ever had the misfortune to produce. If we the people don’t quickly start demanding more referendums on important issues and start taking back power that politicians underhandedly gave themselves, then we, your children and grandchildren are going to be in very big trouble. Why the hell should we the tax payers be paying the salaries of the “opposition politicians” in Federal and State Governments & all their staff to do nothing more than sit around in Parliament and ask the Government in power bloody questions. Besides asking questions and pointing out Government failures, what else is the opposition politicians getting $150K salaries to do?  They have NO effective power in either the upper or lower house, so what are they doing for their $150k salaries besides asking the same boring questions and pointing out the same boring Government failures? you deserve the dangerous outcome of your idea. no opposition means no accountability which effectively means no democracy. I think the media "break" more stories and hold the serving Government to more accountable than any opposition I'm aware of past or present.  Maybe you could give just a few examples of how both opposition Education, Defense, Communications Liberal & Labor ministers just to name a few; have directly made each other accountable when they have been in opposition - that's been a media worthy besides the NBN?

Education. do you even remember the BER?
Communications. NBN anyone?
Defense. materiel appropriations?

your opiinions seem to be based purely on the litle bit of information that comes your way. no wonder you are so wrong, so often.

philperth2010 wrote on Jan 5^th, 2012 at 12:53pm:

What will we get if Tony Abbott becomes PM??? Dump the carbon tax and the revenue that it will generate??? Dump the mining tax and the revenue it will generate??? Dump the NBN no matter how much is laid and forgo any revenue a completed state of the art communications network will generate??? Dump the buyback for the Murray Darling river system and provide no certainty to people in South Australia who will suffer the consequences of such a short sighted policy??? Provide tax cuts to everyone which will be skewed towards high income earners??? Provide a paid maternity leave scheme that rewards wealth and will cost a lot more than Labor’s policy??? Cut 10 000 public service jobs to pay for his negative politics??? Cut 70 billion in services from the budget to pay for his negative politics??? Return to work choices under another name??? Join the war in Iran if the Republicans win the next USA election??? Destroy the environment with direct action that will achieve nothing??? Destroy renewable energy programs in favour of coal mining??? Tony Abbott will destroy Australia if he becomes PM.....that is my prediction!!! >:(

now you just sound like a fool.

philperth2010 wrote on Jan 5^th, 2012 at 12:53pm:

Dump the carbon tax and the revenue that it will generate??? (

This will be the revenue that they then plan to hand back to people to pay the tax increases will it?

One big waste of time and money.

blackadder wrote on Jan 5^th, 2012 at 2:53pm:

That comment is way out of order. That's hilarious coming from the gutter mouth roopoo. Hey roopoo this is one of yours.  What a stupid retarded smacking post, you're an idiot

Your comment was out of order but coming from roo-girl it was an exercise in hypocrisy.

But Im not a mod now and since FD tolerates DRAH calling everyone a racist then who am I to complain now? I wonder if the Liberal Party would be interested to know that blatantly referring to Abbott as racist is not only allowed by encouraged on here?

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 5^th, 2012 at 3:20pm:

blackadder wrote on Jan 5th, 2012 at 2:53pm: That comment is way out of order. That's hilarious coming from the gutter mouth roopoo. Hey roopoo this is one of yours.  What a stupid retarded smacking post, you're an idiot Your comment was out of order but coming from roo-girl it was an exercise in hypocrisy. But Im not a mod now and since FD tolerates DRAH calling everyone a racist then who am I to complain now? I wonder if the Liberal Party would be interested to know that blatantly referring to Abbott as racist is not only allowed by encouraged on here?

Typical double standards...that is why you where a usless moderater Longy....you failed to hold the right to the same standards???

::)

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 5^th, 2012 at 2:44pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Jan 5th, 2012 at 12:53pm: What will we get if Tony Abbott becomes PM??? Dump the carbon tax and the revenue that it will generate??? Dump the mining tax and the revenue it will generate??? Dump the NBN no matter how much is laid and forgo any revenue a completed state of the art communications network will generate??? Dump the buyback for the Murray Darling river system and provide no certainty to people in South Australia who will suffer the consequences of such a short sighted policy??? Provide tax cuts to everyone which will be skewed towards high income earners??? Provide a paid maternity leave scheme that rewards wealth and will cost a lot more than Labor’s policy??? Cut 10 000 public service jobs to pay for his negative politics??? Cut 70 billion in services from the budget to pay for his negative politics??? Return to work choices under another name??? Join the war in Iran if the Republicans win the next USA election??? Destroy the environment with direct action that will achieve nothing??? Destroy renewable energy programs in favour of coal mining??? Tony Abbott will destroy Australia if he becomes PM.....that is my prediction!!! >:( now you just sound like a fool.

If you can predict the crap you posted Longy then I can predict what ever crap I like.....The only fool is the one who thinks this crap actually matters???

::)

philperth2010 wrote on Jan 5^th, 2012 at 3:24pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 5th, 2012 at 3:20pm: blackadder wrote on Jan 5th, 2012 at 2:53pm: That comment is way out of order. That's hilarious coming from the gutter mouth roopoo. Hey roopoo this is one of yours.  What a stupid retarded smacking post, you're an idiot Your comment was out of order but coming from roo-girl it was an exercise in hypocrisy. But Im not a mod now and since FD tolerates DRAH calling everyone a racist then who am I to complain now? I wonder if the Liberal Party would be interested to know that blatantly referring to Abbott as racist is not only allowed by encouraged on here? Typical double standards...that is why you where a usless moderater Longy....you failed to hold the right to the same standards??? ::)

despite twice suspending righties for it... trouble with you phile (among many things) is that you operate on unproven assumptions.

blackadder wrote on Jan 5^th, 2012 at 1:44pm:

Hey greenslime. You are taking up precious space on this earth. Why don't you top yourself so someone that is sensible and sane can find  a space?

BA thats terrible I have been wished to death on here.. and I dont take it lightly.. it isnt funny its cruel and proves what a lot of people say about libs on here.... do you really want to tarnish us all with that brush?.. no thank you..I dont care how bad the left are... that sort of talk is worse than anything they do.please in the name of all liberals who are mostly decent people and never wish anyone dead.. dont do it.

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 5^th, 2012 at 5:08pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Jan 5th, 2012 at 3:24pm: longweekend58 wrote on Jan 5th, 2012 at 3:20pm: blackadder wrote on Jan 5th, 2012 at 2:53pm: That comment is way out of order. That's hilarious coming from the gutter mouth roopoo. Hey roopoo this is one of yours.  What a stupid retarded smacking post, you're an idiot Your comment was out of order but coming from roo-girl it was an exercise in hypocrisy. But Im not a mod now and since FD tolerates DRAH calling everyone a racist then who am I to complain now? I wonder if the Liberal Party would be interested to know that blatantly referring to Abbott as racist is not only allowed by encouraged on here? Typical double standards...that is why you where a usless moderater Longy....you failed to hold the right to the same standards??? ::) despite twice suspending righties for it... trouble with you phile (among many things) is that you operate on unproven assumptions.

You are no longer a Moderator.....Why.....because of your biast!!!

::)

cods wrote on Jan 5^th, 2012 at 5:22pm:

blackadder wrote on Jan 5th, 2012 at 1:44pm: Hey greenslime. You are taking up precious space on this earth. Why don't you top yourself so someone that is sensible and sane can find  a space? BA thats terrible I have been wished to death on here.. and I dont take it lightly.. it isnt funny its cruel and proves what a lot of people say about libs on here.... do you really want to tarnish us all with that brush?.. no thank you..I dont care how bad the left are... that sort of talk is worse than anything they do.please in the name of all liberals who are mostly decent people and never wish anyone dead.. dont do it.

Good on ya, cods!!!

Crikey!!
I don't say that often, do I??

;)

philperth2010 wrote on Jan 5^th, 2012 at 6:16pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 5th, 2012 at 5:08pm: philperth2010 wrote on Jan 5th, 2012 at 3:24pm: longweekend58 wrote on Jan 5th, 2012 at 3:20pm: blackadder wrote on Jan 5th, 2012 at 2:53pm: That comment is way out of order. That's hilarious coming from the gutter mouth roopoo. Hey roopoo this is one of yours.  What a stupid retarded smacking post, you're an idiot Your comment was out of order but coming from roo-girl it was an exercise in hypocrisy. But Im not a mod now and since FD tolerates DRAH calling everyone a racist then who am I to complain now? I wonder if the Liberal Party would be interested to know that blatantly referring to Abbott as racist is not only allowed by encouraged on here? Typical double standards...that is why you where a usless moderater Longy....you failed to hold the right to the same standards??? ::) despite twice suspending righties for it... trouble with you phile (among many things) is that you operate on unproven assumptions. You are no longer a Moderator.....Why.....because of your biast!!! ::)

its actually because I quit... but keep up with those unproven assumptions. They will help you retain your hopeless bias in the face of unrelenting fact.

wHY DID LONGY QUIT IS THE OBVIOUS NEXT QUESTION!

I DON'T SUSPECT HE WILL TELL US THOUGH AS HE IS A CHICKEN SMOKING CRACK HEAD!!

Life_goes_on wrote on Jan 5^th, 2012 at 1:51pm:

Ms Gillard and Labor will continue to be unable to sell a single concept. Wayne Swan will get even worse at public speaking. Mr Abbott will continue to say "No!". Barnaby Joyce will finally admit he's just been yanking our collective chains and go on a nationwide tour of comedy venues. Joe Hockey's concept of economics will get whackier. Boat people keep on arriving - both parties continue to blame each other.

^^ Pretty much this. Canberra is a hive for a*se licking sycophants at the moment.

Lobo wrote on Jan 5^th, 2012 at 6:23pm:

cods wrote on Jan 5th, 2012 at 5:22pm: blackadder wrote on Jan 5th, 2012 at 1:44pm: Hey greenslime. You are taking up precious space on this earth. Why don't you top yourself so someone that is sensible and sane can find  a space? BA thats terrible I have been wished to death on here.. and I dont take it lightly.. it isnt funny its cruel and proves what a lot of people say about libs on here.... do you really want to tarnish us all with that brush?.. no thank you..I dont care how bad the left are... that sort of talk is worse than anything they do.please in the name of all liberals who are mostly decent people and never wish anyone dead.. dont do it. Good on ya, cods!!! Crikey!! I don't say that often, do I?? ;)

NO ;D

Whats a biast?

cods wrote on Jan 5^th, 2012 at 9:40am:

There will be no carbon tax in any government I lead” will haunt and finally destroy the Gillard Government. no arguments on that score.. I see slipper being one huge problem.. how do you get rid of a badly performing speaker does anyone know.? pokermachines will be another wart I cant see that passing and making one iota of difference.. I also see the people wanting more honesty and truth in our govt... we are sick of the pretending..and c arrots that seem to come up every week just to be taken away the next week..

You are so funny. The majority support the poker machine changes, DER. slipper will sit there and laugh to himself, and all the Abbottites will cry about it. The ETS will come and no one will care while Abbott wonders why the people don't rise up and make him King. Honesty and truth! ;D ;D The people have wanted that for hundreds of years, never made any difference.

Julia Gillard is GONE next election...... just go out on any street in Australia and say her name and wait for the barriage of insults and hatred towards her and her government....... Labor have GONE!!!!

An interesting thread.   My prediction?  Well, I reckon Laboe will slowly, but surely increase their standing.  The carbon tax is old news now, but Gillard still needs to address the boat issue.   My bet would be a backflip to go Nauru - put up with the Opposition carping - but then accept the accolades.  But do it now rather than later.

Abbott - don't like the man, but he has polarised the Libs and bought them from a certain oblivion - can he continue?   Don't think so.  Once the big ticket issues are fixed - he will need to go.  Will Gillard stay?   I think so - there re some contenders there for the job, but we are winding into election mode in themiddle of the year, so I reckon she will stay.

I have stated before i am a traditional labor man.  But, in the last election i looked at the candidates in my electorate and actually voted for the guy who I thought would represent my electorate.  that bloke was a lib - Greg Hunt - so far he hasn't let me down

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 5^th, 2012 at 6:56pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Jan 5th, 2012 at 6:16pm: longweekend58 wrote on Jan 5th, 2012 at 5:08pm: philperth2010 wrote on Jan 5th, 2012 at 3:24pm: longweekend58 wrote on Jan 5th, 2012 at 3:20pm: blackadder wrote on Jan 5th, 2012 at 2:53pm: That comment is way out of order. That's hilarious coming from the gutter mouth roopoo. Hey roopoo this is one of yours.  What a stupid retarded smacking post, you're an idiot Your comment was out of order but coming from roo-girl it was an exercise in hypocrisy. But Im not a mod now and since FD tolerates DRAH calling everyone a racist then who am I to complain now? I wonder if the Liberal Party would be interested to know that blatantly referring to Abbott as racist is not only allowed by encouraged on here? Typical double standards...that is why you where a usless moderater Longy....you failed to hold the right to the same standards??? ::) despite twice suspending righties for it... trouble with you phile (among many things) is that you operate on unproven assumptions. You are no longer a Moderator.....Why.....because of your biast!!! ::) its actually because I quit... but keep up with those unproven assumptions. They will help you retain your hopeless bias in the face of unrelenting fact.

So you quit.....fair enough then.....you did everyone a favor!!!

I have no problem with you as a poster Longy but you where a crap moderator!!!

:)

beware wrote on Jan 5^th, 2012 at 7:43pm:

Julia Gillard is GONE next election...... just go out on any street in Australia and say her name and wait for the barriage of insults and hatred towards her and her government....... Labor have GONE!!!!

RACIST PROPAGANDA MAKES WAR A VOTE WINNER!

:-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :D

beware wrote on Jan 5^th, 2012 at 7:43pm:

Julia Gillard is GONE next election...... just go out on any street in Australia and say her name and wait for the barriage of insults and hatred towards her and her government....... Labor have GONE!!!!

RACIST PROPAGANDA MAKES WAR A VOTE WINNER!

:-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :D

:)

Dsmithy70 wrote on Jan 5^th, 2012 at 10:56pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 5th, 2012 at 2:43pm: culldav wrote on Jan 5th, 2012 at 12:25pm: longweekend58 wrote on Jan 5th, 2012 at 10:38am: culldav wrote on Jan 5th, 2012 at 10:18am: Australia desperately needs a Ron Paul to vote for. The current batch of politicians on both sides, would have be the biggest pathetic bunch of losers this Nation has ever had the misfortune to produce. If we the people don’t quickly start demanding more referendums on important issues and start taking back power that politicians underhandedly gave themselves, then we, your children and grandchildren are going to be in very big trouble. Why the hell should we the tax payers be paying the salaries of the “opposition politicians” in Federal and State Governments & all their staff to do nothing more than sit around in Parliament and ask the Government in power bloody questions. Besides asking questions and pointing out Government failures, what else is the opposition politicians getting $150K salaries to do?  They have NO effective power in either the upper or lower house, so what are they doing for their $150k salaries besides asking the same boring questions and pointing out the same boring Government failures? you deserve the dangerous outcome of your idea. no opposition means no accountability which effectively means no democracy. I think the media "break" more stories and hold the serving Government to more accountable than any opposition I'm aware of past or present.  Maybe you could give just a few examples of how both opposition Education, Defense, Communications Liberal & Labor ministers just to name a few; have directly made each other accountable when they have been in opposition - that's been a media worthy besides the NBN?    Education. do you even remember the BER? Communications. NBN anyone? Defense. materiel appropriations? your opiinions seem to be based purely on the litle bit of information that comes your way. no wonder you are so wrong, so often. Education. do you even remember the BER? Nothing to do with education per se, it was a building stimulis to help defend against job losses during the GFC. Which as anyone in the industry it was VERY successful at. Without the "Aus" looking for any real or percieved mistake the Opp would have had nothing, they read the paper in the morning and wrote their questions from the articles Communications. NBN anyone? I like to think when we were building the copper network which I'm sure cost more than initial predictions we had those that bagged it as unwarrented excess and the "Pony Express"could do the job just as well Defense. materiel appropriations? PLEASE ARE YOU SERIOUS?????????????????? Sea Sprite helicopters Abrahams Tanks Defence has been wasting our money for generations no matter who's in power. My prediction Same sh!t, different day with more and more Australians giving up on any pretence of competent government. I mean look at the choices offered >:(

blackadder wrote on Jan 5^th, 2012 at 1:44pm:

Hey greenslime. You are taking up precious space on this earth. Why don't you top yourself so someone that is sensible and sane can find  a space?

Well it is no great surprise to find that someone who seems to have obtained their "Moral Compass" from a REJECT shop, would post such pathetic comments.
I think Greens is more than capable of treating such pathetic taunts with the contempt they deserve, and as Blackadder is so bereft of the interpersonal skills to have anyone ever take him seriously, I think we can assign this as just another dropping on life's footpath, best stepped around, not unlike it's creator.

culldav wrote on Jan 5^th, 2012 at 10:18am:

Australia desperately needs a Ron Paul to vote for. The current batch of politicians on both sides, would have be the biggest pathetic bunch of losers this Nation has ever had the misfortune to produce. If we the people don’t quickly start demanding more referendums on important issues and start taking back power that politicians underhandedly gave themselves, then we, your children and grandchildren are going to be in very big trouble. Why the hell should we the tax payers be paying the salaries of the “opposition politicians” in Federal and State Governments & all their staff to do nothing more than sit around in Parliament and ask the Government in power bloody questions. Besides asking questions and pointing out Government failures, what else is the opposition politicians getting $150K salaries to do?  They have NO effective power in either the upper or lower house, so what are they doing for their $150k salaries besides asking the same boring questions and pointing out the same boring Government failures?

What would happen if there was no Opposition?

Wouldn't ALP/Greens alliance send us quicker down the gurgler?

The Opposition is making as much noise as they think is practical - after all, they are conservatives. . .

culldav wrote on Jan 5^th, 2012 at 10:30am:

Could you wish for anyone better besides the “mad monk” to look more stupid and incompetent with ad campaigns during election time?  How many perfect potential ad situations could you use regarding Abbott standing there like a nutter when the media caught him about what he said about that soldier dying. Aussies have an international reputation for being backward and dumb-arse, so don’t be surprised if Gillard wins again.

A few weeks back I thought you, Cullday, had a brain above that of an average leftard.

I was wrong.

mozzaok wrote on Jan 6^th, 2012 at 6:48am:

blackadder wrote on Jan 5th, 2012 at 1:44pm: Hey greenslime. You are taking up precious space on this earth. Why don't you top yourself so someone that is sensible and sane can find  a space? Well it is no great surprise to find that someone who seems to have obtained their "Moral Compass" from a REJECT shop, would post such pathetic comments. I think Greens is more than capable of treating such pathetic taunts with the contempt they deserve, and as Blackadder is so bereft of the interpersonal skills to have anyone ever take him seriously, I think we can assign this as just another dropping on life's footpath, best stepped around, not unlike it's creator.

Really mozzaok? What did you do when Cods was wished dead? What did you do with the vile posts from roopoo?

SFA!!! Why?? Because they came from your side of politics. The looney left. Consistency is not your strong point. Oh and we mustn't forget DEADHORSE.

philperth2010 wrote on Jan 5^th, 2012 at 12:53pm:

What will we get if Tony Abbott becomes PM??? Dump the carbon tax and the revenue that it will generate??? Dump the mining tax and the revenue it will generate??? Dump the NBN no matter how much is laid and forgo any revenue a completed state of the art communications network will generate??? Dump the buyback for the Murray Darling river system and provide no certainty to people in South Australia who will suffer the consequences of such a short sighted policy??? Provide tax cuts to everyone which will be skewed towards high income earners??? Provide a paid maternity leave scheme that rewards wealth and will cost a lot more than Labor’s policy??? Cut 10 000 public service jobs to pay for his negative politics??? Cut 70 billion in services from the budget to pay for his negative politics??? Return to work choices under another name??? Join the war in Iran if the Republicans win the next USA election??? Destroy the environment with direct action that will achieve nothing??? Destroy renewable energy programs in favour of coal mining??? Tony Abbott will destroy Australia if he becomes PM.....that is my prediction!!! >:(

Putting Gillard, KRudd and Brown into a rowing boat in the middle of the Pacific Ocean, would be a great start

and would give their mouth-muscles a break.

Did LW post predictions or a wish list?

Dnarever wrote on Jan 6^th, 2012 at 7:05am:

Did LW post predictions or a wish list?

feel free to attempt your own predictions along with credible support for them. But thats a bit hard to do itsnt it? all you do is criticise others opinions rahter than formulate your own,

olde.sault wrote on Jan 6^th, 2012 at 6:54am:

culldav wrote on Jan 5th, 2012 at 10:18am: Australia desperately needs a Ron Paul to vote for. The current batch of politicians on both sides, would have be the biggest pathetic bunch of losers this Nation has ever had the misfortune to produce. If we the people don’t quickly start demanding more referendums on important issues and start taking back power that politicians underhandedly gave themselves, then we, your children and grandchildren are going to be in very big trouble. Why the hell should we the tax payers be paying the salaries of the “opposition politicians” in Federal and State Governments & all their staff to do nothing more than sit around in Parliament and ask the Government in power bloody questions. Besides asking questions and pointing out Government failures, what else is the opposition politicians getting $150K salaries to do?  They have NO effective power in either the upper or lower house, so what are they doing for their $150k salaries besides asking the same boring questions and pointing out the same boring Government failures? What would happen if there was no Opposition? Wouldn't ALP/Greens alliance send us quicker down the gurgler? The Opposition is making as much noise as they think is practical - after all, they are conservatives. . .

Conservatives aren't supposed to be afraid of progress!  ::) ::) ::) ::) :-[

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 6^th, 2012 at 8:32am:

Dnarever wrote on Jan 6th, 2012 at 7:05am: Did LW post predictions or a wish list? feel free to attempt your own predictions along with credible support for them. But thats a bit hard to do itsnt it? all you do is criticise others opinions rahter than formulate your own,

I don't see that as being critical - just questioning what it really is? Having a wish list is not exactly derogatory - some would consider it a good thing.

I may eventually put together a wish list of my own - if and when I feel like it and have some time.

Maybe including things like

The fixed carbon price will be implimented and people will quickly realise that its no big deal and that the Libs have been dishonest again.

Tony Abbott will say no once too often and people will work out that he has nothing to offer.

Poker machine reform will be implimented and hopefully it will work.

We will find a successful solution to the boat people problem and it will not involve Nauru, Malaysia or off shore processing. (thats a big wish).

As some of the benifits to their communities come on line the independants will find that the discussion and polls will return to sane balanced levels. 

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Jan 5^th, 2012 at 11:19am:

Gillard will not find the long lost packet of 'Competence' in the bathroom cabinet in 2012, and will lead Labor from one disaster of their own making to another until they face destiny at the ballot next year. And it won't be pretty for Labor.

Are you prepared to put money on that prediction? I know I am. You're spot on!

About the only guaranteed thing for the coming political year is bad polls for Labor. I wont say the 'gillard govt' because there is no guarantee she will even be PM at years end or that labor will even be in govt.

____ wrote on Jan 5^th, 2012 at 1:39pm:

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Jan 5th, 2012 at 1:05pm: philperth2010 wrote on Jan 5th, 2012 at 12:53pm: What will we get if Tony Abbott becomes PM??? Dump the carbon tax and the revenue that it will generate??? Dump the mining tax and the revenue it will generate??? Dump the NBN no matter how much is laid and forgo any revenue a completed state of the art communications network will generate??? Dump the buyback for the Murray Darling river system and provide no certainty to people in South Australia who will suffer the consequences of such a short sighted policy??? Provide tax cuts to everyone which will be skewed towards high income earners??? Provide a paid maternity leave scheme that rewards wealth and will cost a lot more than Labor’s policy??? Cut 10 000 public service jobs to pay for his negative politics??? Cut 70 billion in services from the budget to pay for his negative politics??? Return to work choices under another name??? Join the war in Iran if the Republicans win the next USA election??? Destroy the environment with direct action that will achieve nothing??? Destroy renewable energy programs in favour of coal mining??? Tony Abbott will destroy Australia if he becomes PM.....that is my prediction!!! >:( Now now Phil. If you were really a genuine Haruspex, the IPCC would already have you making futuristic climate change predictions for them. :) Meanwhile, back at the ranch, we will all have to wait and see what Prime Minister Abbott actually does achieve during his term. The Lame Duck Tony Abbott? Lame because of not controlling the Senate, and lame because the Nats have pulled out of the coalition. No thinking Australian will vote a guy who has turned business confidence and investment into his kicking ball. No one who wants to be unemployed will vote for Mister No.

How do you know he ,or the libs, won't control the senate??

Half of the Senate is up for reelection at the 2013 election (or whenever the next election is held)...

its just the usual woody-wank. 'nats pulling out of the coalition' and that kind of drivel. libs probably cant get a senate majority at the next election, but if they go to a DD election with a strong anti greens and labor swing then it could happen.

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 12^th, 2012 at 9:54am:

its just the usual woody-wank. 'nats pulling out of the coalition' and that kind of drivel. libs probably cant get a senate majority at the next election, but if they go to a DD election with a strong anti greens and labor swing then it could happen.

You really live in la la land ,longwhine.
Abbott could not win an election when the ALP were at there all time dog eat dog low, yet you think he can win an election then go to a DD and win a senate majority as well. Talk about delusional, the wanker will be lucky to be leader come election time let alone win. :D

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 6^th, 2012 at 8:32am:

Dnarever wrote on Jan 6th, 2012 at 7:05am: Did LW post predictions or a wish list? feel free to attempt your own predictions along with credible support for them. But thats a bit hard to do itsnt it? all you do is criticise others opinions rahter than formulate your own,

Longy formulates his OWN opinions???? That is GOLD. lol

Still, I guess reading the Australian, then copying their ridiculous blather may feel like he is thinking it up for himself.
The only things I have seen which Longy thinks up for himself, are his own "facts", which range from creating his own scientific information, to the ridiculous claims about his personal credentials, always seemingly on the way to, or back from, a high level conference on the pertinent subject he is discussing, be that telecommunications technology, or electric cars.
The one thing he is an expert on however, is Hot Air, perhaps he should go to a Ballooning conference next.

____ wrote on Jan 5^th, 2012 at 1:39pm:

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Jan 5th, 2012 at 1:05pm: philperth2010 wrote on Jan 5th, 2012 at 12:53pm: What will we get if Tony Abbott becomes PM??? Dump the carbon tax and the revenue that it will generate??? Dump the mining tax and the revenue it will generate??? Dump the NBN no matter how much is laid and forgo any revenue a completed state of the art communications network will generate??? Dump the buyback for the Murray Darling river system and provide no certainty to people in South Australia who will suffer the consequences of such a short sighted policy??? Provide tax cuts to everyone which will be skewed towards high income earners??? Provide a paid maternity leave scheme that rewards wealth and will cost a lot more than Labor’s policy??? Cut 10 000 public service jobs to pay for his negative politics??? Cut 70 billion in services from the budget to pay for his negative politics??? Return to work choices under another name??? Join the war in Iran if the Republicans win the next USA election??? Destroy the environment with direct action that will achieve nothing??? Destroy renewable energy programs in favour of coal mining??? Tony Abbott will destroy Australia if he becomes PM.....that is my prediction!!! >:( Now now Phil. If you were really a genuine Haruspex, the IPCC would already have you making futuristic climate change predictions for them. :) Meanwhile, back at the ranch, we will all have to wait and see what Prime Minister Abbott actually does achieve during his term. The Lame Duck Tony Abbott? Lame because of not controlling the Senate, and lame because the Nats have pulled out of the coalition. No thinking Australian will vote a guy who has turned business confidence and investment into his kicking ball. No one who wants to be unemployed will vote for Mister No.

Yes they will Green, and your wrong yet again.
Simply because the electorate simply will not tolerate another three years of the lies, incompetence, mismanagement and waste of Gillard / Rudd/ Swan & Co.
It's as simple as that.
And as a great man once stated "Opposition doesn't win elections, Governments lose them".

____ wrote on Jan 5^th, 2012 at 2:36pm:

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Jan 5th, 2012 at 2:30pm: ____ wrote on Jan 5th, 2012 at 1:39pm: chicken_lipsforme wrote on Jan 5th, 2012 at 1:05pm: philperth2010 wrote on Jan 5th, 2012 at 12:53pm: What will we get if Tony Abbott becomes PM??? Dump the carbon tax and the revenue that it will generate??? Dump the mining tax and the revenue it will generate??? Dump the NBN no matter how much is laid and forgo any revenue a completed state of the art communications network will generate??? Dump the buyback for the Murray Darling river system and provide no certainty to people in South Australia who will suffer the consequences of such a short sighted policy??? Provide tax cuts to everyone which will be skewed towards high income earners??? Provide a paid maternity leave scheme that rewards wealth and will cost a lot more than Labor’s policy??? Cut 10 000 public service jobs to pay for his negative politics??? Cut 70 billion in services from the budget to pay for his negative politics??? Return to work choices under another name??? Join the war in Iran if the Republicans win the next USA election??? Destroy the environment with direct action that will achieve nothing??? Destroy renewable energy programs in favour of coal mining??? Tony Abbott will destroy Australia if he becomes PM.....that is my prediction!!! >:( Now now Phil. If you were really a genuine Haruspex, the IPCC would already have you making futuristic climate change predictions for them. :) Meanwhile, back at the ranch, we will all have to wait and see what Prime Minister Abbott actually does achieve during his term. The Lame Duck Tony Abbott? Lame because of not controlling the Senate, and lame because the Nats have pulled out of the coalition. No thinking Australian will vote a guy who has turned business confidence and investment into his kicking ball. No one who wants to be unemployed will vote for Mister No. Are you referring to the same lame duck Tony Abbott that has his 2nd Labor PM's scalp in his sights. He's doing his job, pity Labor cant do the same. So Mr Lame Duck thinks his job is to remove the puppets of the faceless factional men of Labor. No wonder he is taking the conservatives further into the political wilderness.

Abbott doesn't 'think his job'.
Abbott does his job.
And that is to reduce the publics confidence in the Labor Government which eventually reflects in the polls and then an election.
And he does that by highlighting the Governments blunders and offering unsolicited advice on what the Government should be doing.
The Government has been extremely helpful to Abbott by providing him with a constant stream of blunders for him to report on.
Which is something he has been very good at.

skippy. wrote on Jan 12^th, 2012 at 10:16am:

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 12th, 2012 at 9:54am: its just the usual woody-wank. 'nats pulling out of the coalition' and that kind of drivel. libs probably cant get a senate majority at the next election, but if they go to a DD election with a strong anti greens and labor swing then it could happen. You really live in la la land ,longwhine. Abbott could not win an election when the ALP were at there all time dog eat dog low, yet you think he can win an election then go to a DD and win a senate majority as well. Talk about delusional, the wanker will be lucky to be leader come election time let alone win. :D

you are starting to sound like lastnail. you make pronouncements that are so obviously wrong it is embarrassing. in august 2010 the parties were polling neck and neck. they are now separated by 12 points. even a mathematical midget like you should be able to work out that 50/50 is not a 'historical low'

and so skippy joins the pansi/vegy/toenail/booby group as irredeemable stupid.

mozzaok wrote on Jan 12^th, 2012 at 10:26am:

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 6th, 2012 at 8:32am: Dnarever wrote on Jan 6th, 2012 at 7:05am: Did LW post predictions or a wish list? feel free to attempt your own predictions along with credible support for them. But thats a bit hard to do itsnt it? all you do is criticise others opinions rahter than formulate your own, Longy formulates his OWN opinions???? That is GOLD. lol Still, I guess reading the Australian, then copying their ridiculous blather may feel like he is thinking it up for himself. The only things I have seen which Longy thinks up for himself, are his own "facts", which range from creating his own scientific information, to the ridiculous claims about his personal credentials, always seemingly on the way to, or back from, a high level conference on the pertinent subject he is discussing, be that telecommunications technology, or electric cars. The one thing he is an expert on however, is Hot Air, perhaps he should go to a Ballooning conference next.

and yet I am right far more often than wrong. My predictions on the GFC for example were almost spot on. most of my political predictions are correct too.

and yes, I not only attend but RUN Groundwater training courses. and if you have half the intelligence as you do blather it should be easy to prove.

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 12^th, 2012 at 12:21pm:

skippy. wrote on Jan 12th, 2012 at 10:16am: longweekend58 wrote on Jan 12th, 2012 at 9:54am: its just the usual woody-wank. 'nats pulling out of the coalition' and that kind of drivel. libs probably cant get a senate majority at the next election, but if they go to a DD election with a strong anti greens and labor swing then it could happen. You really live in la la land ,longwhine. Abbott could not win an election when the ALP were at there all time dog eat dog low, yet you think he can win an election then go to a DD and win a senate majority as well. Talk about delusional, the wanker will be lucky to be leader come election time let alone win. :D you are starting to sound like lastnail. you make pronouncements that are so obviously wrong it is embarrassing. in august 2010 the parties were polling neck and neck. they are now separated by 12 points. even a mathematical midget like you should be able to work out that 50/50 is not a 'historical low' and so skippy joins the pansi/vegy/toenail/booby group as irredeemable stupid.

Thanks for the troll, loser boy, but I should have realised someone as dyslexically challenged as yourself would not be able to comprehend the obvious.

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 12^th, 2012 at 9:54am:

its just the usual woody-wank. 'nats pulling out of the coalition' and that kind of drivel. libs probably cant get a senate majority at the next election, but if they go to a DD election with a strong anti greens and labor swing then it could happen.

-->>the western australia trick is totally possible!

  :o :D :D :D

skippy. wrote on Jan 12^th, 2012 at 12:25pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 12th, 2012 at 12:21pm: skippy. wrote on Jan 12th, 2012 at 10:16am: longweekend58 wrote on Jan 12th, 2012 at 9:54am: its just the usual woody-wank. 'nats pulling out of the coalition' and that kind of drivel. libs probably cant get a senate majority at the next election, but if they go to a DD election with a strong anti greens and labor swing then it could happen. You really live in la la land ,longwhine. Abbott could not win an election when the ALP were at there all time dog eat dog low, yet you think he can win an election then go to a DD and win a senate majority as well. Talk about delusional, the wanker will be lucky to be leader come election time let alone win. :D you are starting to sound like lastnail. you make pronouncements that are so obviously wrong it is embarrassing. in august 2010 the parties were polling neck and neck. they are now separated by 12 points. even a mathematical midget like you should be able to work out that 50/50 is not a 'historical low' and so skippy joins the pansi/vegy/toenail/booby group as irredeemable stupid. Thanks for the troll, loser boy, but I should have realised someone as dyslexically challenged as yourself would not be able to comprehend the obvious.

While mathematics is clearly not your stong suit Id have thought that even a fool can work out that 50 (labor in 2010) is great than 40 (its historical low).

is there anything about maths you understand  that you cant do counting on fingers?