Japanese ship sails with protesters on board
Updated January 08, 2012 16:39:37


A Japanese boat continues to head south along the WA coast despite carrying three anti-whaling protesters from Western Australia.

The activists boarded the Shonan Maru 2 in the hope it would be forced to return them to shore and would no longer be able to shadow the Sea Shepherd anti-whaling vessel, the Steve Irwin.

But Steve Irwin's Captain Paul Watson says this has not been the case.

"They are still continuing to pursue us but I find it absolutely extraordinary the Australian Government will allow an armed Japanese vessel to come in and take Australian citizens out of Australian territory in fact to Japan, but we'll see what happens," he said.

Mr Watson claims the Japanese crew has confiscated radios from the protesters.

The Greens are calling for Federal Government intervention.

The Greens senator Rachel Siewert says the Prime Minister should contact the Japanese Government to ensure the safety of the protesters.

"Our concern is that they could be taken elsewhere they could be taken back to Japan or heaven forbid taken down to the Southern Ocean if the boat continues to pursue the Steve Irwin," she said.

The three protesters are from the environmental group Forest Rescue, and spokesman Michael Montgomery says the men were forced to act because the Federal Government is not doing enough to prevent the killing of whales.

"It's up to the people to stand up and reclaim our personal power and stand up for what's right," he said.

The latest incident is not the first time the Shonan Maru 2 has been in the headlines.

In 2010, New Zealand anti-whaling activist Peter Bethune boarded the boat in Antarctic waters.

He was detained and charged by Japanese authorities and held in a maximum security prison.

Mr Bethune faced up to 15 years in jail, but received a suspended sentence and was deported from Tokyo after spending five months in prison.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-01-08/anti-whalers/3762784

Wealthy far rightwing brats from leafy suburbs with time on their hands jump aboard a ship committing a crime - stowaways - and we are supposed to jump up and down about it?  Maritime law applies here. 8-)

oh god man the guns...three aussies kidnapped by the deadly evil Japanese..


did they board this Japanese ship illegally????

oh I am sure they didnt I bet they were invited aboard for saki hour..and they missed the tide back... ;D ;D ;D ;D

what is it with Australians they think piracy is a Somalian disease.. what we do is just make an interesting visit just to deliver mail or something..

if gillard gets on the phone I will spit chips.

corporate_whitey wrote on Jan 8^th, 2012 at 5:29pm:

Wealthy far rightwing brats from leafy suburbs with time on their hands jump aboard a ship committing a crime - stowaways - and we are supposed to jump up and down about it?  Maritime law applies here. 8-)

...ahem.....rightwing  LEFTY brats

Swagman wrote on Jan 8^th, 2012 at 6:24pm:

corporate_whitey wrote on Jan 8th, 2012 at 5:29pm: Wealthy far rightwing brats from leafy suburbs with time on their hands jump aboard a ship committing a crime - stowaways - and we are supposed to jump up and down about it?  Maritime law applies here. 8-) ...ahem.....rightwing  LEFTY brats

No class consciousness - no leftwing.   I dont see any of these silver spooners engaged in the class struggle, unless its fighting to slug the poor people with flat taxes for their rich elders...8-)

This is why the Sea Shepherd organisation will never get my support.....These terrorists should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law for their stupidity!!!

>:(

in which country?


And next time Australians protest at Pine Gap, should they be whisked away to Gitmo.

An armed Japan are committing illegal activities in our waters and our government allows them to abduct them out of Australia. Meanwhile Labor spys on Australians peacefully protesting coal stations.

How come the ALP are not watching the Japanese, like they are watching peaceful protestors?

____ wrote on Jan 8^th, 2012 at 7:42pm:

in which country? And next time Australians protest at Pine Gap, should they be whisked away to Gitmo. An armed Japan are committing illegal activities in our waters and our government allows them to abduct them out of Australia. Meanwhile Labor spys on Australians peacefully protesting coal stations. How come the ALP are not watching the Japanese, like they are watching peaceful protestors?

like those peaceful protesters that climbed aboard a foreign owned ship uninvited  you mean?

I dont see these ultra rightwing rich brats out there campaigning for social justice - just natural justice and thats a little scary and Hitleresque. ::)

cods wrote on Jan 8^th, 2012 at 7:47pm:

____ wrote on Jan 8th, 2012 at 7:42pm: in which country? And next time Australians protest at Pine Gap, should they be whisked away to Gitmo. An armed Japan are committing illegal activities in our waters and our government allows them to abduct them out of Australia. Meanwhile Labor spys on Australians peacefully protesting coal stations. How come the ALP are not watching the Japanese, like they are watching peaceful protestors? like those peaceful protesters that climbed aboard a foreign owned ship uninvited  you mean?

An armed Japanese ship engaged in illegal activities in Australian territory.

An Armed ship that Australia should of been watching but your mate Gillard couldn't be bothered. More worried about boats to our north with refugees, rather  than armed boats south, butchering whales illegally.

What do you expect the Japanese to do when someone boards their vessel illegally.....These protestors could have caused a lot of damage and endangered lives by their actions.....No protestors should be allowed to break the law and board any ship illegally.....They deserve to be prosecuted to the full extent of the law.....It amazes me how people who do these sort of things think they are above the law!!!


>:(

____ wrote on Jan 8^th, 2012 at 7:56pm:

cods wrote on Jan 8th, 2012 at 7:47pm: ____ wrote on Jan 8th, 2012 at 7:42pm: in which country? And next time Australians protest at Pine Gap, should they be whisked away to Gitmo. An armed Japan are committing illegal activities in our waters and our government allows them to abduct them out of Australia. Meanwhile Labor spys on Australians peacefully protesting coal stations. How come the ALP are not watching the Japanese, like they are watching peaceful protestors? like those peaceful protesters that climbed aboard a foreign owned ship uninvited  you mean? An armed Japanese ship engaged in illegal activities in Australian territory. An Armed ship that Australia should of been watching but your mate Gillard couldn't be bothered. More worried about boats to our north with refugees, rather  than armed boats south, butchering whales illegally.

I would be interested in your crocodile tears woody if you had had the same tears for those 200 lost souls on that sinking overloaded ship on its way to our on shore processing factory.

.... I see where another boat arrived yesterday 119 on board they are squeezing more and more on are they not? its only a matter of time.before another terrible accident....


yet this terrible ARMED ship.... oh gawd I am so scared... ;D ;D ;D ;D

It was in international waters mate....The Japanese have every right to protect themselves from these terrorists!!!

>:(

philperth2010 wrote on Jan 8^th, 2012 at 8:04pm:

What do you expect the Japanese to do when someone boards their vessel illegally.....These protestors could have caused a lot of damage and endangered lives by their actions.....No protestors should be allowed to break the law and board any ship illegally.....They deserve to be prosecuted to the full extent of the law.....It amazes me how people who do these sort of things think they are above the law!!! >:(

So an a Armed Japanese Whaling Ship, within an Australian Whale Sanctuary is ok for the Australian government and for you?

A Japanese Ship engaged in an activity the Australian government is thinking it may lay a case against if they get around to it yet refused to send a boat to observe.

If it is ok by you to prosecute the protestors, is it ok to  prosecute the people onboard the Japanese Whaling ships?

philperth2010 wrote on Jan 8^th, 2012 at 8:10pm:

It was in international waters mate....The Japanese have every right to protect themselves from these terrorists!!! >:(

Check out the video


http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-01-08/government-in-talks-have-anti-whaling-activists-released-from-s/3763002

Up and down the WA coast, through the whale sanctuary.

____ wrote on Jan 8^th, 2012 at 7:42pm:

in which country? And next time Australians protest at Pine Gap, should they be whisked away to Gitmo. An armed Japan are committing illegal activities in our waters and our government allows them to abduct them out of Australia. Meanwhile Labor spys on Australians peacefully protesting coal stations. How come the ALP are not watching the Japanese, like they are watching peaceful protestors?

It's not illegal to enter australian waters with arms on your vessel, It is illegal to land with the arms and not declare them and have them registered / made inactive, this happens daily as some private and commercial vessels have arms on board.

What is needed to be known is, what is the status of the Japanese vessel, if it is a military vessel they would have to notify the Australian government of there intension whilst in our waters (within the 12nm exclusion zone). outside of that they are basically in international waters, and international maritime law applies.

Now boarding a vessel at sea without the permission of the captain is illegal, this an act of piracy, and has very real and servre consquences for those involved in the act. Those involved should take the trip back to where ever the ship goes and then have their case heard in the international maritime courts.

As to Pine Gap if they enter the base without been invited they should have the full force of the law thrown at them. trespass is an illegal act, and the security of military bases needs to be kept to a high level.

as to the ALP watching the Japanese it's not their job that is why we have security forces, that is the job of ASIS and ASIO and believe me they will be.

While I don't agree with what the Japanese are doing - they aren't fooling anyone with claims of the whaling being for scientific reasons - the activists who boarded the Japanese vessel can only blame themselves for their situation. They should be released by the Japanese and the activists should stop carrying out these boardings.

____ wrote on Jan 8^th, 2012 at 8:11pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Jan 8th, 2012 at 8:04pm: What do you expect the Japanese to do when someone boards their vessel illegally.....These protestors could have caused a lot of damage and endangered lives by their actions.....No protestors should be allowed to break the law and board any ship illegally.....They deserve to be prosecuted to the full extent of the law.....It amazes me how people who do these sort of things think they are above the law!!! >:( So an a Armed Japanese Whaling Ship, within an Australian Whale Sanctuary is ok for the Australian government and for you? A Japanese Ship engaged in an activity the Australian government is thinking it may lay a case against if they get around to it yet refused to send a boat to observe. If it is ok by you to prosecute the protestors, is it ok to  prosecute the people onboard the Japanese Whaling ships?

When the Japanese break the law they should be prosecuted.....When protestors break the law they should also be prosecuted....Japan and a lot of other countries do not recognise Australia's claim to Antarctica and consider it International waters.....The Japanese have every right to protect their ship and crew from protestors....Sorry mate but the Sea Shepherd and its Captain Watson do not impress me at all!!!


>:(

cods wrote on Jan 8^th, 2012 at 8:04pm:

____ wrote on Jan 8th, 2012 at 7:56pm: cods wrote on Jan 8th, 2012 at 7:47pm: ____ wrote on Jan 8th, 2012 at 7:42pm: in which country? And next time Australians protest at Pine Gap, should they be whisked away to Gitmo. An armed Japan are committing illegal activities in our waters and our government allows them to abduct them out of Australia. Meanwhile Labor spys on Australians peacefully protesting coal stations. How come the ALP are not watching the Japanese, like they are watching peaceful protestors? like those peaceful protesters that climbed aboard a foreign owned ship uninvited  you mean? An armed Japanese ship engaged in illegal activities in Australian territory. An Armed ship that Australia should of been watching but your mate Gillard couldn't be bothered. More worried about boats to our north with refugees, rather  than armed boats south, butchering whales illegally. I would be interested in your crocodile tears woody if you had had the same tears for those 200 lost souls on that sinking overloaded ship on its way to our on shore processing factory. .... I see where another boat arrived yesterday 119 on board they are squeezing more and more on are they not? its only a matter of time.before another terrible accident.... yet this terrible ARMED ship.... oh gawd I am so scared... ;D ;D ;D ;D

Afghan Refugees drown because of the push factors your lot caused. You have blood on your hands for supporting Abbott and Howard.

And now you want off shore processing, you are putting boat refugees at greater risk since they will try for longer trips and so have more drowned. More drowned means more men, women, children and babies washing up on our beaches.

All your doing missy. For supporting inhumane measures against a humanitarian crisis. 

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 8^th, 2012 at 8:21pm:

While I don't agree with what the Japanese are doing - they aren't fooling anyone with claims of the whaling being for scientific reasons - the activists who boarded the Japanese vessel can only blame themselves for their situation. They should be released by the Japanese and the activists should stop carrying out these boardings.

So the japanese can slaughter whales and send them to extinction ... we are suppose to look the other way?

The only reason the men boarded was to focus attention on the illegal activities of the Japanese whaling fleet and to stop it harassing sea shepherd.

corporate_whitey wrote on Jan 8^th, 2012 at 6:44pm:

Swagman wrote on Jan 8th, 2012 at 6:24pm: corporate_whitey wrote on Jan 8th, 2012 at 5:29pm: Wealthy far rightwing brats from leafy suburbs with time on their hands jump aboard a ship committing a crime - stowaways - and we are supposed to jump up and down about it?  Maritime law applies here. 8-) ...ahem.....rightwing  LEFTY brats No class consciousness - no leftwing.   I dont see any of these silver spooners engaged in the class struggle, unless its fighting to slug the poor people with flat taxes for their rich elders...8-)

Class struggle? There's no class struggle in Australia. 

philperth2010 wrote on Jan 8^th, 2012 at 8:25pm:

____ wrote on Jan 8th, 2012 at 8:11pm: philperth2010 wrote on Jan 8th, 2012 at 8:04pm: What do you expect the Japanese to do when someone boards their vessel illegally.....These protestors could have caused a lot of damage and endangered lives by their actions.....No protestors should be allowed to break the law and board any ship illegally.....They deserve to be prosecuted to the full extent of the law.....It amazes me how people who do these sort of things think they are above the law!!! >:( So an a Armed Japanese Whaling Ship, within an Australian Whale Sanctuary is ok for the Australian government and for you? A Japanese Ship engaged in an activity the Australian government is thinking it may lay a case against if they get around to it yet refused to send a boat to observe. If it is ok by you to prosecute the protestors, is it ok to  prosecute the people onboard the Japanese Whaling ships? When the Japanese break the law they should be prosecuted.....When protestors break the law they should also be prosecuted....Japan and a lot of other countries do not recognise Australia's claim to Antarctica and consider it International waters.....The Japanese have every right to protect their ship and crew from protestors....Sorry mate but the Sea Shepherd and its Captain Watson do not impress me at all!!! >:(

Without them, we would of had heaps more whales illegally slaughtered last year. But hey, you don't care about results do you.

Japanese whaling fleet should be banned from Australian ports and waters.

____ wrote on Jan 8^th, 2012 at 8:39pm:

Japanese whaling fleet should be banned from Australian ports and waters.

They are banned under the Whale protection act of 1980.
No whaling ship is allowed to dock or operate within the 12nm limit of our territorial waters.

____ wrote on Jan 8^th, 2012 at 8:36pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 8th, 2012 at 8:21pm: While I don't agree with what the Japanese are doing - they aren't fooling anyone with claims of the whaling being for scientific reasons - the activists who boarded the Japanese vessel can only blame themselves for their situation. They should be released by the Japanese and the activists should stop carrying out these boardings. So the japanese can slaughter whales and send them to extinction ... we are suppose to look the other way? The only reason the men boarded was to focus attention on the illegal activities of the Japanese whaling fleet and to stop it harassing sea shepherd.

No, I didn't mean we should turn our backs on what the Japanese are doing and I think most Australians who watch or read the news are aware of what the Japanese are doing. But at the same time, there shouldn't be activists boarding Japanese vessels either. It's only going to lead to more trouble.

wildkactus wrote on Jan 8^th, 2012 at 8:44pm:

____ wrote on Jan 8th, 2012 at 8:39pm: Japanese whaling fleet should be banned from Australian ports and waters. They are banned under the Whale protection act of 1980. No whaling ship is allowed to dock or operate within the 12nm limit of our territorial waters.

the incident happened 16.2 miles off the coast - outside territorial waters but inside Australia’s 24-mile contiguous zone.


http://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/a/-/newshome/12528660/activists-taken-hostage-by-whalers/

Why wasn't the government watching?

Lock them in a cabin and cart them around for a month or two. Dump them on some island on the way home and let the Oz authorities pick them up. Either that or take them back to Japan and put them on trial.

These idiots (the protestors) really don't think things through do they?

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 8^th, 2012 at 8:51pm:

____ wrote on Jan 8th, 2012 at 8:36pm: Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 8th, 2012 at 8:21pm: While I don't agree with what the Japanese are doing - they aren't fooling anyone with claims of the whaling being for scientific reasons - the activists who boarded the Japanese vessel can only blame themselves for their situation. They should be released by the Japanese and the activists should stop carrying out these boardings. So the japanese can slaughter whales and send them to extinction ... we are suppose to look the other way? The only reason the men boarded was to focus attention on the illegal activities of the Japanese whaling fleet and to stop it harassing sea shepherd. No, I didn't mean we should turn our backs on what the Japanese are doing and I think most Australians who watch or read the news are aware of what the Japanese are doing. But at the same time, there shouldn't be activists boarding Japanese vessels either. It's only going to lead to more trouble.

So what is your solution ... do nothing?

This is the type of action I condemn!!!

•in 1986, Sea Shepherd carried out an action against the Icelandic whaling station in Hvalfjoerdur and sank two Icelandic whaling vessels in Reykjavik harbor by opening their sea valves;[1]
•in December 1992, Sea Shepherd sank the vessel Nybroena in port;[2]
•Sea Shepherd claimed to have sank the Taiwanese drift net ship Jiang Hai in port in Taiwan and to have rammed and disabled four other Asian drift net ships;[3]
•a Canadian court ordered Watson and his former ship, the Cleveland Armory, to pay a total of $35,000 for ramming a Cuban fishing vessel off the coast of Newfoundland in June 1993;[4]
•in January 1994 the group severely damaged the whaling ship Senet in the Norwegian port of Gressvik.

http://www.greenpeace.org/usa/en/news-and-blogs/news/paul-watson-sea-shepherd-and/

Terrorists!!!

>:(

____ wrote on Jan 8^th, 2012 at 8:53pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 8th, 2012 at 8:51pm: ____ wrote on Jan 8th, 2012 at 8:36pm: Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 8th, 2012 at 8:21pm: While I don't agree with what the Japanese are doing - they aren't fooling anyone with claims of the whaling being for scientific reasons - the activists who boarded the Japanese vessel can only blame themselves for their situation. They should be released by the Japanese and the activists should stop carrying out these boardings. So the japanese can slaughter whales and send them to extinction ... we are suppose to look the other way? The only reason the men boarded was to focus attention on the illegal activities of the Japanese whaling fleet and to stop it harassing sea shepherd. No, I didn't mean we should turn our backs on what the Japanese are doing and I think most Australians who watch or read the news are aware of what the Japanese are doing. But at the same time, there shouldn't be activists boarding Japanese vessels either. It's only going to lead to more trouble. So what is your solution ... do nothing?

Deploy the Navy with orders to turn the Japanese fleet away from Australian waters. Of course, Gillard is too weak for that. She can't even stop barely-seaworthy people smuggling boats coming from Indonesia.

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 8^th, 2012 at 9:09pm:

____ wrote on Jan 8th, 2012 at 8:53pm: Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 8th, 2012 at 8:51pm: ____ wrote on Jan 8th, 2012 at 8:36pm: Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 8th, 2012 at 8:21pm: While I don't agree with what the Japanese are doing - they aren't fooling anyone with claims of the whaling being for scientific reasons - the activists who boarded the Japanese vessel can only blame themselves for their situation. They should be released by the Japanese and the activists should stop carrying out these boardings. So the japanese can slaughter whales and send them to extinction ... we are suppose to look the other way? The only reason the men boarded was to focus attention on the illegal activities of the Japanese whaling fleet and to stop it harassing sea shepherd. No, I didn't mean we should turn our backs on what the Japanese are doing and I think most Australians who watch or read the news are aware of what the Japanese are doing. But at the same time, there shouldn't be activists boarding Japanese vessels either. It's only going to lead to more trouble. So what is your solution ... do nothing? Deploy the Navy with orders to turn the Japanese fleet away from Australian waters. Of course, Gillard is too weak for that. She can't even stop barely-seaworthy people smuggling boats coming from Indonesia.

Not even Tony Abbott would be that stupid!!!

::)

____ wrote on Jan 8^th, 2012 at 8:52pm:

wildkactus wrote on Jan 8th, 2012 at 8:44pm: ____ wrote on Jan 8th, 2012 at 8:39pm: Japanese whaling fleet should be banned from Australian ports and waters. They are banned under the Whale protection act of 1980. No whaling ship is allowed to dock or operate within the 12nm limit of our territorial waters. the incident happened 16.2 miles off the coast - outside territorial waters but inside Australia’s 24-mile contiguous zone. http://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/a/-/newshome/12528660/activists-taken-hostage-by-whalers/ Why wasn't the government watching?

the 24-mile contiguous zone, is still not an area inwhich the laws of Australia can be held up it is just a zone in which australia says we want this, under the international maritime law all any nation can claim sovereignty to is the 12nm limit. There have been a lot of claims for extension to this but no have been upheld in the international courts everything comes back to the 12nm limit.

as to where the incident took place who knows as the japanese are saying 44km's 27nm and sea shepard's are saying inside the 24nm. inside 24nm may have been the position of the Steve Irwin but the Shonan may have been further to sea so they might be right as well. who knows.

This is the problem with the green movement, no one within the movement wants to take responsibility for their actions. What these 3 people did was illegal, they committed an act of piracy in international waters.

Pete Bathume who did the same thing in the 09/10 campaign took it on the chin, went back to japan and had his case heard before a court, he got more out of his effort then these three will as they do not want to be held responsible.

When I was a little kid we went on a school excursion to see the arrival of the Soviet whaling fleet in Sydney harbour. We watched them from Milsons Point and there were crowds everywhere with hundreds of people on the harbour bridge waving and dropping streamers.

How times have changed.

I remember the mothership was fuggin' massive... bigger than anything I'd ever seen - it seemed to just make it under the bridge.

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 8^th, 2012 at 9:09pm:

____ wrote on Jan 8th, 2012 at 8:53pm: Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 8th, 2012 at 8:51pm: ____ wrote on Jan 8th, 2012 at 8:36pm: Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 8th, 2012 at 8:21pm: While I don't agree with what the Japanese are doing - they aren't fooling anyone with claims of the whaling being for scientific reasons - the activists who boarded the Japanese vessel can only blame themselves for their situation. They should be released by the Japanese and the activists should stop carrying out these boardings. So the japanese can slaughter whales and send them to extinction ... we are suppose to look the other way? The only reason the men boarded was to focus attention on the illegal activities of the Japanese whaling fleet and to stop it harassing sea shepherd. No, I didn't mean we should turn our backs on what the Japanese are doing and I think most Australians who watch or read the news are aware of what the Japanese are doing. But at the same time, there shouldn't be activists boarding Japanese vessels either. It's only going to lead to more trouble. So what is your solution ... do nothing? Deploy the Navy with orders to turn the Japanese fleet away from Australian waters. Of course, Gillard is too weak for that. She can't even stop barely-seaworthy people smuggling boats coming from Indonesia.

She can't send the navy out to turn them away as they have done nothing illegal.
she could send out a ship to watch but would it not be better to have the navy engaged in other activities like protecting our borders then watching the legal activities of legal vessels transiting our coast.

e can't send the navy out to turn them away as they have done nothing illegal.
she could send out a ship to watch but would it not be better to have the navy engaged in other activities like protecting our borders then watching the legal activities of legal vessels transiting our coast.




are we not supposed to be on the same side?????????????????????

____ wrote on Jan 8^th, 2012 at 8:11pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Jan 8th, 2012 at 8:04pm: What do you expect the Japanese to do when someone boards their vessel illegally.....These protestors could have caused a lot of damage and endangered lives by their actions.....No protestors should be allowed to break the law and board any ship illegally.....They deserve to be prosecuted to the full extent of the law.....It amazes me how people who do these sort of things think they are above the law!!! >:( So an a Armed Japanese Whaling Ship, within an Australian Whale Sanctuary is ok for the Australian government and for you? A Japanese Ship engaged in an activity the Australian government is thinking it may lay a case against if they get around to it yet refused to send a boat to observe. If it is ok by you to prosecute the protestors, is it ok to  prosecute the people onboard the Japanese Whaling ships?

As my wise mother once said, two wrongs don't make it right!

Kidnap, what a croc of shite.
These twats illegally boarded a foreign ship underway at sea and should count themselves lucky they weren't thrown back over the side.
Maybe they are seeking asylum in Japan, and are fleeing 'persecution' in Australia?
Eitherway, they deserve their stint in prison.
If the Captain of the Sea Shepherd was concerned about 'kidnapping', so far he hasn't turned back and demanded their release.

philperth2010 wrote on Jan 8^th, 2012 at 8:25pm:

____ wrote on Jan 8th, 2012 at 8:11pm: philperth2010 wrote on Jan 8th, 2012 at 8:04pm: What do you expect the Japanese to do when someone boards their vessel illegally.....These protestors could have caused a lot of damage and endangered lives by their actions.....No protestors should be allowed to break the law and board any ship illegally.....They deserve to be prosecuted to the full extent of the law.....It amazes me how people who do these sort of things think they are above the law!!! >:( So an a Armed Japanese Whaling Ship, within an Australian Whale Sanctuary is ok for the Australian government and for you? A Japanese Ship engaged in an activity the Australian government is thinking it may lay a case against if they get around to it yet refused to send a boat to observe. If it is ok by you to prosecute the protestors, is it ok to  prosecute the people onboard the Japanese Whaling ships? When the Japanese break the law they should be prosecuted.....When protestors break the law they should also be prosecuted....Japan and a lot of other countries do not recognise Australia's claim to Antarctica and consider it International waters.....The Japanese have every right to protect their ship and crew from protestors....Sorry mate but the Sea Shepherd and its Captain Watson do not impress me at all!!! >:(

The ONLY people who have got themselves to blame for this situation id Australians themselves for constantly voting in gutless weak politicians who refuse to get tough on foreigners entering our boarders whenever they feel like it, and Australian politicians do nothing about stopping them - including the Japanese and others who think down under is open international waters they can steal from.

Maybe if Australia didn't have such a bunch of gutless politicians, then Australia would be able to protect its borders from foreign thieves.

The government is attempting to do something about it and have been for a while now

Any other country who had the guts to protect their borders form foreign thieves would sent a military patrol boat into the known areas and keep one posted there, but Australia's military boats are forced to play chauffeurs to criminal country shopping asylum seekers. Or, we send 2 brand new military patrol boats to Malaysia instead of protecting our own damn boarders - are the people of Australia ever going to come first before foreign interests? 

culldav wrote on Jan 9^th, 2012 at 12:55pm:

Any other country who had the guts to protect their borders form foreign thieves would sent a military patrol boat into the known areas and keep one posted there, but Australia's military boats are forced to play chauffeurs to criminal country shopping asylum seekers. Or, we send 2 brand new military patrol boats to Malaysia instead of protecting our own damn boarders - are the people of Australia ever going to come first before foreign interests?

So what have the Coalition ever done about whaling then???

:-?

____ wrote on Jan 8^th, 2012 at 7:56pm:

cods wrote on Jan 8th, 2012 at 7:47pm: ____ wrote on Jan 8th, 2012 at 7:42pm: in which country? And next time Australians protest at Pine Gap, should they be whisked away to Gitmo. An armed Japan are committing illegal activities in our waters and our government allows them to abduct them out of Australia. Meanwhile Labor spys on Australians peacefully protesting coal stations. How come the ALP are not watching the Japanese, like they are watching peaceful protestors? like those peaceful protesters that climbed aboard a foreign owned ship uninvited  you mean? An armed Japanese ship engaged in illegal activities in Australian territory. An Armed ship that Australia should of been watching but your mate Gillard couldn't be bothered. More worried about boats to our north with refugees, rather  than armed boats south, butchering whales illegally.

'Armed'?
What with?
A fire hose doesn't count.

philperth2010 wrote on Jan 9^th, 2012 at 1:06pm:

culldav wrote on Jan 9th, 2012 at 12:55pm: Any other country who had the guts to protect their borders form foreign thieves would sent a military patrol boat into the known areas and keep one posted there, but Australia's military boats are forced to play chauffeurs to criminal country shopping asylum seekers. Or, we send 2 brand new military patrol boats to Malaysia instead of protecting our own damn boarders - are the people of Australia ever going to come first before foreign interests?  So what have the Coalition ever done about whaling then??? :-?

Nothing to my knowledge. but it seems neither has you precious Juliar!!

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Jan 9^th, 2012 at 1:35pm:

____ wrote on Jan 8th, 2012 at 7:56pm: cods wrote on Jan 8th, 2012 at 7:47pm: ____ wrote on Jan 8th, 2012 at 7:42pm: in which country? And next time Australians protest at Pine Gap, should they be whisked away to Gitmo. An armed Japan are committing illegal activities in our waters and our government allows them to abduct them out of Australia. Meanwhile Labor spys on Australians peacefully protesting coal stations. How come the ALP are not watching the Japanese, like they are watching peaceful protestors? like those peaceful protesters that climbed aboard a foreign owned ship uninvited  you mean? An armed Japanese ship engaged in illegal activities in Australian territory. An Armed ship that Australia should of been watching but your mate Gillard couldn't be bothered. More worried about boats to our north with refugees, rather  than armed boats south, butchering whales illegally. 'Armed'? What with? A fire hose doesn't count.

To concerned playing chauffeurs to country shopping boat people from the North to worry about whats even happening in the South.  Having to worry about the North & South for Juliar and her clown brigade is something they are just not capable of doing.

The Japanese rotters are stealing our Wales and as the PM comes from Wales herself I would expect her to act. Anyway the Japs are scared of dragons.

http://www.data-wales.co.uk/flag.gif

We should start whaling immeadiately and export the meat to Japan and what happened to the days when I could buy a pint of whale oil from the local fishing tackle shop

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WabT1L-nN-E&feature=relmfu


Defiantly beautiful creatures.....

But unpredictable!!!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uC-62_0ig5k&feature=related

____ wrote on Jan 8^th, 2012 at 7:56pm:

cods wrote on Jan 8th, 2012 at 7:47pm: ____ wrote on Jan 8th, 2012 at 7:42pm: in which country? And next time Australians protest at Pine Gap, should they be whisked away to Gitmo. An armed Japan are committing illegal activities in our waters and our government allows them to abduct them out of Australia. Meanwhile Labor spys on Australians peacefully protesting coal stations. How come the ALP are not watching the Japanese, like they are watching peaceful protestors? like those peaceful protesters that climbed aboard a foreign owned ship uninvited  you mean? An armed Japanese ship engaged in illegal activities in Australian territory. An Armed ship that Australia should of been watching but your mate Gillard couldn't be bothered. More worried about boats to our north with refugees, rather  than armed boats south, butchering whales illegally.

It's NOT an 'armed ship'....it's a ship, possibly carrying armed men...

...not to mention they probably taste very nice.

Whale Steak
4 portions

4 slices of whalemeat @ 150 - 180 g
Salt and pepper, preferably freshly ground
4 onion rings
2 dessert spoonfulls of finely diced green or red peppers
1 dessert spoonful of finely diced parsley
1 dessert spoonful of finely diced gherkins


Carve the meat into slices of about 1.5 to 2 cm thick, beat them with your hands and press them into shape. Preheat the frying pan and melt some butter in it. Brown the butter before adding the meat. Fry the steaks on both sides. Whale meat should be fried for about 4-5 minutes on each side. The steaks taste best when they are medium rare, but they should be warmed right through and not eaten raw. Serve the steaks on a plate, place an onion ring on each of them and fill it with peppers, parsley and gherkins. Potato scollops taste good together with the steaks. Serve with a bowl of good, crisp lettuce and salad.

Life_goes_on wrote on Jan 9^th, 2012 at 6:10pm:

...not to mention they probably taste very nice. Whale Steak 4 portions 4 slices of whalemeat @ 150 - 180 g Salt and pepper, preferably freshly ground 4 onion rings 2 dessert spoonfulls of finely diced green or red peppers 1 dessert spoonful of finely diced parsley 1 dessert spoonful of finely diced gherkins Carve the meat into slices of about 1.5 to 2 cm thick, beat them with your hands and press them into shape. Preheat the frying pan and melt some butter in it. Brown the butter before adding the meat. Fry the steaks on both sides. Whale meat should be fried for about 4-5 minutes on each side. The steaks taste best when they are medium rare, but they should be warmed right through and not eaten raw. Serve the steaks on a plate, place an onion ring on each of them and fill it with peppers, parsley and gherkins. Potato scallops taste good together with the steaks. Serve with a bowl of good, crisp lettuce and salad.

I don't know..I've heard it's very tough and chewy...although that might depend on the preparation and cooking...Which isn't the actual point...the point is, commercial whaling isn't legal right now (other than 'aboriginal' or 'traditional' whaling) and hiding commercial whaling under the banner of scientific whaling is crap..

It's not the taste or texture that I would worry about.
It's the high levels of mercury.


No matter your views on whaling , anybody would be crazy to eat it.

Sounds yummo to me....


Quote:

Along with a couple of draft Sapporos, our whale dishes at last arrive. Dig in! Don't let your whale get cold! The whale steak is delicious. It tastes exactly like regular steak, except with the barest hint of a fishy aftertaste. I could eat whale steak every day. But the fried whale is less appetizing. Chewy. Fishy and chewy. Not enough breading and grease. But I'm thinking chicken-fried whale could be quite good. http://www.slate.com/articles/life/welltraveled/features/2003/tokyo_on_one_clich_a_day/my_dinner_with_willy.html

darkhall67 wrote on Jan 9^th, 2012 at 6:29pm:

It's not the taste or texture that I would worry about. It's the high levels of mercury. No matter your views on whaling , anybody would be crazy to eat it.

Is there a high level of mercury??

philperth2010 wrote on Jan 9^th, 2012 at 5:01pm:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WabT1L-nN-E&feature=relmfu Defiantly beautiful creatures..... But unpredictable!!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uC-62_0ig5k&feature=related

No not really...Orcas are closer to the dolphin family....not really whales, despite the name....
Think humans and chimps...

philperth2010 wrote on Jan 9^th, 2012 at 5:01pm:

[ Defiantly beautiful creatures..... But unpredictable!!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uC-62_0ig5k&feature=related

That trainer was lucky- this one died. And you have to ask, is the whale worth more than the trainer? It seems it went on for a while and nothing serious was done to help.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ao9_zOpLyog&feature=related

gizmo_2655 wrote on Jan 9^th, 2012 at 6:37pm:

darkhall67 wrote on Jan 9th, 2012 at 6:29pm: It's not the taste or texture that I would worry about. It's the high levels of mercury. No matter your views on whaling , anybody would be crazy to eat it. Is there a high level of mercury??

An international moratorium on commercial whaling has been in place since 1986. But many people in Japan still consume cetaceans, particularly toothed whales. New research suggests that eating these whale products may have unexpected consequences. The results of a study that will appear in the June 15 edition of the Journal of Environmental Science and Technology indicate that packaged whale meat in Japan contains dangerously high levels of mercury.

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=packaged-whale-meat-in-ja

By the way, the Japanese didn't abduct them. The three men in question voluntarily boarded the ship. That the Japanese are refusing to release them due to their illegal boarding does not constitute abduction.

Pfft. I crack open and suck a thermometer dry after a good streak. It really tops off a good meal.

darkhall67 wrote on Jan 9^th, 2012 at 6:43pm:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Jan 9th, 2012 at 6:37pm: darkhall67 wrote on Jan 9th, 2012 at 6:29pm: It's not the taste or texture that I would worry about. It's the high levels of mercury. No matter your views on whaling , anybody would be crazy to eat it. Is there a high level of mercury?? An international moratorium on commercial whaling has been in place since 1986. But many people in Japan still consume cetaceans, particularly toothed whales. New research suggests that eating these whale products may have unexpected consequences. The results of a study that will appear in the June 15 edition of the Journal of Environmental Science and Technology indicate that packaged whale meat in Japan contains dangerously high levels of mercury. http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=packaged-whale-meat-in-ja

Yes, I know that...however, under the 'traditional whaling' exception to the moratorium, the hunting must be carried out using the old style or 'historic' methods.....Somehow I doubt the 17th, 18th and 19th century Japanese whale hunts took place in the Antarctic. There are still several towns in Japan that hunt whales in their traditional waters, and using almost traditional methods...

p.s I'm against the current 'scientific research' hunts....but have no problem with the Inuit, the Faroe Islands, Greenland, Iceland, the Antillies, Russia and Indonesia...or even the 'local' Japanese and Australian/Pacific Island hunts...

But the Southern Ocean/Antarctic hunts ARE commercial, not traditional or scientific....

gizmo_2655 wrote on Jan 9^th, 2012 at 6:57pm:

darkhall67 wrote on Jan 9th, 2012 at 6:43pm: gizmo_2655 wrote on Jan 9th, 2012 at 6:37pm: darkhall67 wrote on Jan 9th, 2012 at 6:29pm: It's not the taste or texture that I would worry about. It's the high levels of mercury. No matter your views on whaling , anybody would be crazy to eat it. Is there a high level of mercury?? An international moratorium on commercial whaling has been in place since 1986. But many people in Japan still consume cetaceans, particularly toothed whales. New research suggests that eating these whale products may have unexpected consequences. The results of a study that will appear in the June 15 edition of the Journal of Environmental Science and Technology indicate that packaged whale meat in Japan contains dangerously high levels of mercury. http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=packaged-whale-meat-in-ja Yes, I know that...however, under the 'traditional whaling' exception to the moratorium, the hunting must be carried out using the old style or 'historic' methods.....Somehow I doubt the 17th, 18th and 19th century Japanese whale hunts took place in the Antarctic. There are still several towns in Japan that hunt whales in their traditional waters, and using almost traditional methods...

???????



I was answering your mercury question.

Grey wrote on Jan 9^th, 2012 at 6:42pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Jan 9th, 2012 at 5:01pm: [ Defiantly beautiful creatures..... But unpredictable!!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uC-62_0ig5k&feature=related That trainer was lucky- this one died. And you have to ask, is the whale worth more than the trainer? It seems it went on for a while and nothing serious was done to help. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ao9_zOpLyog&feature=related

Given that it was an 8000lb (3600kg) animal....exactly what could they do???...Orcas are carnivores....it's like lion tamers, you take your life in your hands everytime...

darkhall67 wrote on Jan 9^th, 2012 at 7:02pm:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Jan 9th, 2012 at 6:57pm: darkhall67 wrote on Jan 9th, 2012 at 6:43pm: gizmo_2655 wrote on Jan 9th, 2012 at 6:37pm: darkhall67 wrote on Jan 9th, 2012 at 6:29pm: It's not the taste or texture that I would worry about. It's the high levels of mercury. No matter your views on whaling , anybody would be crazy to eat it. Is there a high level of mercury?? An international moratorium on commercial whaling has been in place since 1986. But many people in Japan still consume cetaceans, particularly toothed whales. New research suggests that eating these whale products may have unexpected consequences. The results of a study that will appear in the June 15 edition of the Journal of Environmental Science and Technology indicate that packaged whale meat in Japan contains dangerously high levels of mercury. http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=packaged-whale-meat-in-ja Yes, I know that...however, under the 'traditional whaling' exception to the moratorium, the hunting must be carried out using the old style or 'historic' methods.....Somehow I doubt the 17th, 18th and 19th century Japanese whale hunts took place in the Antarctic. There are still several towns in Japan that hunt whales in their traditional waters, and using almost traditional methods... ??????? I was answering your mercury question.

Oh, ok..I was expecting more on the mercury content bit, and less on the moratorium and consumption of cetaceans...bit of a mixed message...

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 9^th, 2012 at 6:51pm:

By the way, the Japanese didn't abduct them. The three men in question voluntarily boarded the ship. That the Japanese are refusing to release them due to their illegal boarding does not constitute abduction.

It was in Australian waters ... so it is abduction.

____ wrote on Jan 9^th, 2012 at 9:05pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 9th, 2012 at 6:51pm: By the way, the Japanese didn't abduct them. The three men in question voluntarily boarded the ship. That the Japanese are refusing to release them due to their illegal boarding does not constitute abduction. It was in Australian waters ... so it is abduction.

SO if you try to mug me and I tie you up and sit on you, it's abduction?

gizmo_2655 wrote on Jan 9^th, 2012 at 7:09pm:

Given that it was an 8000lb (3600kg) animal....exactly what could they do...

Er... kill it. This couldn't have happened at a japanese theme park...

Soren wrote on Jan 9^th, 2012 at 9:31pm:

____ wrote on Jan 9th, 2012 at 9:05pm: Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 9th, 2012 at 6:51pm: By the way, the Japanese didn't abduct them. The three men in question voluntarily boarded the ship. That the Japanese are refusing to release them due to their illegal boarding does not constitute abduction. It was in Australian waters ... so it is abduction. SO if you try to mug me and I tie you up and sit on you, it's abduction?

It is if you then transport me out of the country, so to avoid Australian Law.

____ wrote on Jan 9^th, 2012 at 9:44pm:

Soren wrote on Jan 9th, 2012 at 9:31pm: ____ wrote on Jan 9th, 2012 at 9:05pm: Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 9th, 2012 at 6:51pm: By the way, the Japanese didn't abduct them. The three men in question voluntarily boarded the ship. That the Japanese are refusing to release them due to their illegal boarding does not constitute abduction. It was in Australian waters ... so it is abduction. SO if you try to mug me and I tie you up and sit on you, it's abduction? It is if you then transport me out of the country, so to avoid Australian Law.

the incident did not take place in Australian territorial waters, Ms Roxon said.

''Because it was only in our exclusive economic zone that doesn't give us automatic rights to assert Australian law,'' she told reporters.

''In fact, the clearest advice that we have is that Japanese law would be likely to apply,'' she added.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-16464267

I think the legal term is, 'the numpties are f*#&*d."

And where did Labor get their information from ... a group of illegal whale butcherers that are just butchering whales for scientific reasons.

Butchering whales with tsunami repair meant cash.

And when Labor where asked ... where are the Australians now ... they don't know because the abductors Labor trust so much, would not tell them.

Labor believes foreign liars, thieves, and illegal butchers over Australians.


It is time to educate the majority of japanese,that these illegal whalers are doing, feeding them mercury saturated food ... just like their nuke industry to the rest of their food.

By turning Japanese off toxic whale meat that will destroy their cognitive abilities, we can end this illegal activity.


This is a great time to build up the Japanese Greens Political Party, and so shift yet another country off the path of destruction non Greens want to take us.

____ wrote on Jan 9^th, 2012 at 9:05pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 9th, 2012 at 6:51pm: By the way, the Japanese didn't abduct them. The three men in question voluntarily boarded the ship. That the Japanese are refusing to release them due to their illegal boarding does not constitute abduction. It was in Australian waters ... so it is abduction.

The Government are saying different. :)
Would you have preferred them to be thrown over the side?

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Jan 9^th, 2012 at 10:29pm:

____ wrote on Jan 9th, 2012 at 9:05pm: Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 9th, 2012 at 6:51pm: By the way, the Japanese didn't abduct them. The three men in question voluntarily boarded the ship. That the Japanese are refusing to release them due to their illegal boarding does not constitute abduction. It was in Australian waters ... so it is abduction. The Government are saying different. :) Would you have preferred them to be thrown over the side?

This is the path the old parties have taken us ... first they undermined human life from overseas ... now they want to undermine Australian life.

Thank goodness I still have my humanity ... thank goodness there are Greens supporters around ... and increasing in numbers.



It is good to know the right now believe Labor to be competent all of a sudden.
Now tell me, where did Labor get it's information of the where abouts of the Japanese illegal Whaling vessel ... from the boat it has observing?

____ wrote on Jan 9^th, 2012 at 9:05pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 9th, 2012 at 6:51pm: By the way, the Japanese didn't abduct them. The three men in question voluntarily boarded the ship. That the Japanese are refusing to release them due to their illegal boarding does not constitute abduction. It was in Australian waters ... so it is abduction.

The three activists weren't dragged aboard the Japanese ship. In fact, they refused to leave it in the hope it would force the Japanese ship to stop shadowing the activists' own ship and return them to Australia. That is hardly abduction. If anything, it's more a form of a "sit-in" protest.

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 9^th, 2012 at 10:38pm:

____ wrote on Jan 9th, 2012 at 9:05pm: Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 9th, 2012 at 6:51pm: By the way, the Japanese didn't abduct them. The three men in question voluntarily boarded the ship. That the Japanese are refusing to release them due to their illegal boarding does not constitute abduction. It was in Australian waters ... so it is abduction. The three activists weren't dragged aboard the Japanese ship. In fact, they refused to leave it in the hope it would force the Japanese ship to stop shadowing the activists' own ship and return them to Australia. That is hardly abduction. If anything, it's more a form of a "sit-in" protest.

It is when the whaling ship, a ship that is banned in Australian waters ... so it was breaking Australian law, then abducts Australians defending our waters and now has taken off with the Australians.


This is a terrorism act committed by Japan on Australia.

An act of war.

____ wrote on Jan 9^th, 2012 at 10:59pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 9th, 2012 at 10:38pm: ____ wrote on Jan 9th, 2012 at 9:05pm: Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 9th, 2012 at 6:51pm: By the way, the Japanese didn't abduct them. The three men in question voluntarily boarded the ship. That the Japanese are refusing to release them due to their illegal boarding does not constitute abduction. It was in Australian waters ... so it is abduction. The three activists weren't dragged aboard the Japanese ship. In fact, they refused to leave it in the hope it would force the Japanese ship to stop shadowing the activists' own ship and return them to Australia. That is hardly abduction. If anything, it's more a form of a "sit-in" protest. It is when the whaling ship, a ship that is banned in Australian waters ... so it was breaking Australian law, then abducts Australians defending our waters and now has taken off with the Australians. This is a terrorism act committed by Japan on Australia. An act of war.

Now you're getting carried away. First of all, the Sea Shepherd has no authority to carry out underway boarding of any vessel. Only the RAN or Customs have that authority, hence the activists are trespassing and the Japanese are well within their rights to detain the activists. Second of all, your ludicrous jump to this being an act of terrorism clearly demonstrates that you've lost the plot. Time to get back on your meds, calm down and stop smoking weed.

The Japanese where harassing SeaShep and so followed it into Australian Waters ... this is illegal


The Japanese, once confronted by Australians then abducted them out of Australian territory ... and act of terrorism and an act of war.

Why are you defending a country who has committed crimes against Australians before.

Lest We Forget.

____ wrote on Jan 9^th, 2012 at 11:12pm:

The Japanese where harassing SeaShep and so followed it into Australian Waters ... this is illegal The Japanese, once confronted by Australians then abducted them out of Australian territory ... and act of terrorism and an act of war. Why are you defending a country who has committed crimes against Australians before. Lest We Forget.

There was no invitation from the Japanese for those activists to climb aboard the Japanese vessel, nor do the activists have any right to carry out such action. The Japanese are well within their rights to detain them and prosecute them in Japanese courts. That you choose to ignore these very simple, straightforward facts shows a level of stupidity/ignorance not often seen - even on an internet forum.

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 9^th, 2012 at 11:16pm:

____ wrote on Jan 9th, 2012 at 11:12pm: The Japanese where harassing SeaShep and so followed it into Australian Waters ... this is illegal The Japanese, once confronted by Australians then abducted them out of Australian territory ... and act of terrorism and an act of war. Why are you defending a country who has committed crimes against Australians before. Lest We Forget. There was no invitation from the Japanese for those activists to climb aboard the Japanese vessel, nor do the activists have any right to carry out such action. The Japanese are well within their rights to detain them and prosecute them in Japanese courts. That you choose to ignore these very simple, straightforward facts shows a level of stupidity/ignorance not often seen - even on an internet forum.

An illegal vessel, in Australian waters, that has been taking part in illegal whaling, and now abduct Australians from Australian waters.


This is a japanese act of war against Australia.

Time to cut ties and cut trade.

____ wrote on Jan 9^th, 2012 at 11:21pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 9th, 2012 at 11:16pm: ____ wrote on Jan 9th, 2012 at 11:12pm: The Japanese where harassing SeaShep and so followed it into Australian Waters ... this is illegal The Japanese, once confronted by Australians then abducted them out of Australian territory ... and act of terrorism and an act of war. Why are you defending a country who has committed crimes against Australians before. Lest We Forget. There was no invitation from the Japanese for those activists to climb aboard the Japanese vessel, nor do the activists have any right to carry out such action. The Japanese are well within their rights to detain them and prosecute them in Japanese courts. That you choose to ignore these very simple, straightforward facts shows a level of stupidity/ignorance not often seen - even on an internet forum. An illegal vessel, in Australian waters, that has been taking part in illegal whaling, and now abduct Australians from Australian waters. This is a japanese act of war against Australia. Time to cut ties and cut trade.

Its a very serious offense to board a ship on the High seas - make them walk the plank.

http://blogs.middlebury.edu/southchinasea/files/2011/08/walk-the-plank-disney.jpg :D

corporate_whitey wrote on Jan 9^th, 2012 at 11:25pm:

____ wrote on Jan 9th, 2012 at 11:21pm: Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 9th, 2012 at 11:16pm: ____ wrote on Jan 9th, 2012 at 11:12pm: The Japanese where harassing SeaShep and so followed it into Australian Waters ... this is illegal The Japanese, once confronted by Australians then abducted them out of Australian territory ... and act of terrorism and an act of war. Why are you defending a country who has committed crimes against Australians before. Lest We Forget. There was no invitation from the Japanese for those activists to climb aboard the Japanese vessel, nor do the activists have any right to carry out such action. The Japanese are well within their rights to detain them and prosecute them in Japanese courts. That you choose to ignore these very simple, straightforward facts shows a level of stupidity/ignorance not often seen - even on an internet forum. An illegal vessel, in Australian waters, that has been taking part in illegal whaling, and now abduct Australians from Australian waters. This is a japanese act of war against Australia. Time to cut ties and cut trade. Its a very serious offense to board a ship on the High seas - make them walk the plank. http://blogs.middlebury.edu/southchinasea/files/2011/08/walk-the-plank-disney.jpg :D

Yes, an illegal whaling boat in Australian waters is on par with piracy.

____ wrote on Jan 9^th, 2012 at 11:30pm:

corporate_whitey wrote on Jan 9th, 2012 at 11:25pm: ____ wrote on Jan 9th, 2012 at 11:21pm: Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 9th, 2012 at 11:16pm: ____ wrote on Jan 9th, 2012 at 11:12pm: The Japanese where harassing SeaShep and so followed it into Australian Waters ... this is illegal The Japanese, once confronted by Australians then abducted them out of Australian territory ... and act of terrorism and an act of war. Why are you defending a country who has committed crimes against Australians before. Lest We Forget. There was no invitation from the Japanese for those activists to climb aboard the Japanese vessel, nor do the activists have any right to carry out such action. The Japanese are well within their rights to detain them and prosecute them in Japanese courts. That you choose to ignore these very simple, straightforward facts shows a level of stupidity/ignorance not often seen - even on an internet forum. An illegal vessel, in Australian waters, that has been taking part in illegal whaling, and now abduct Australians from Australian waters. This is a japanese act of war against Australia. Time to cut ties and cut trade. Its a very serious offense to board a ship on the High seas - make them walk the plank. http://blogs.middlebury.edu/southchinasea/files/2011/08/walk-the-plank-disney.jpg :D Yes, an illegal whaling boat in Australian waters is on par with piracy.

Greens_Lose, you're and idiot and I'm going to bed.

then piss off ... and good night.


until next time

____ wrote on Jan 9^th, 2012 at 11:30pm:

corporate_whitey wrote on Jan 9th, 2012 at 11:25pm: ____ wrote on Jan 9th, 2012 at 11:21pm: Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 9th, 2012 at 11:16pm: ____ wrote on Jan 9th, 2012 at 11:12pm: The Japanese where harassing SeaShep and so followed it into Australian Waters ... this is illegal The Japanese, once confronted by Australians then abducted them out of Australian territory ... and act of terrorism and an act of war. Why are you defending a country who has committed crimes against Australians before. Lest We Forget. There was no invitation from the Japanese for those activists to climb aboard the Japanese vessel, nor do the activists have any right to carry out such action. The Japanese are well within their rights to detain them and prosecute them in Japanese courts. That you choose to ignore these very simple, straightforward facts shows a level of stupidity/ignorance not often seen - even on an internet forum. An illegal vessel, in Australian waters, that has been taking part in illegal whaling, and now abduct Australians from Australian waters. This is a japanese act of war against Australia. Time to cut ties and cut trade. Its a very serious offense to board a ship on the High seas - make them walk the plank. http://blogs.middlebury.edu/southchinasea/files/2011/08/walk-the-plank-disney.jpg :D Yes, an illegal whaling boat in Australian waters is on par with piracy.

You are corrupting the word illegal like all rightwingers do.  There is no evidence this vessel is illegal or committing any crime.  The protesters are the only ones here who have committed a crime - my question is who is backing them?  I suspect they are being supported by super rich corporate interests to harass anyone going near fish stocks in international waters that Australian business interests wish to monopolize.  The Japanese have a case to make here that the Sea Shepherd group are Pirates and Terrorists.  I have serious reservations about them. 8-)

____ wrote on Jan 9^th, 2012 at 10:21pm:

And where did Labor get their information from ... a group of illegal whale butcherers

I am aware this Government is incompetent, but not so incompetent they would be unaware that they have access to satellite imagery let alone rely on foreign vessels regarding security information in our own waters.
It doesn't work that way Green.

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Jan 10^th, 2012 at 6:43am:

____ wrote on Jan 9th, 2012 at 10:21pm: And where did Labor get their information from ... a group of illegal whale butcherers I am aware this Government is incompetent, but not so incompetent they would be unaware that they have access to satellite imagery let alone rely on foreign vessels regarding security information in our own waters. It doesn't work that way Green.

Rubbish ... without the illegal whale butchers feeding Labor their propaganda, Labor would be saying ... like asked where they are now ... We Don't Know !

Your support of Labor's incompetence is a sign of your political hypocrisy.

____ wrote on Jan 9^th, 2012 at 10:36pm:

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Jan 9th, 2012 at 10:29pm: ____ wrote on Jan 9th, 2012 at 9:05pm: Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 9th, 2012 at 6:51pm: By the way, the Japanese didn't abduct them. The three men in question voluntarily boarded the ship. That the Japanese are refusing to release them due to their illegal boarding does not constitute abduction. It was in Australian waters ... so it is abduction. The Government are saying different. :) Would you have preferred them to be thrown over the side? This is the path the old parties have taken us ... first they undermined human life from overseas ... now they want to undermine Australian life. Thank goodness I still have my humanity ... thank goodness there are Greens supporters around ... and increasing in numbers. It is good to know the right now believe Labor to be competent all of a sudden.Now tell me, where did Labor get it's information of the where abouts of the Japanese illegal Whaling vessel ... from the boat it has observing?

Hell has not frozen over yet Green, and Labor is still incompetent today as they were four years ago.
And they still have access to satellites too eh. :)
But you can't have it both ways you know.
These three criminals either stay with the Japanese ship they voluntarily boarded, or they start swimming.
Their choice really.
And this has nothing to do with 'humanity'.
These three are responsible for their own actions and will stand accountable for them.
Perhaps the Sea Shepherd captain could show some of that 'humanity' himself, and not deny the three activists right to come back aboard where they came from eh.
However, the Sea Shepherd captain has shown no interest in going back for his compatriots that he aided initially so well.
Apparently that aid has a time limit applied which has now expired, and now the Australian taxpayer may have to foot the bill to 'rescue' these idiots.

____ wrote on Jan 10^th, 2012 at 6:48am:

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Jan 10th, 2012 at 6:43am: ____ wrote on Jan 9th, 2012 at 10:21pm: And where did Labor get their information from ... a group of illegal whale butcherers I am aware this Government is incompetent, but not so incompetent they would be unaware that they have access to satellite imagery let alone rely on foreign vessels regarding security information in our own waters. It doesn't work that way Green. Rubbish ... without the illegal whale butchers feeding Labor their propaganda, Labor would be saying ... like asked where they are now ... We Don't Know ! Your support of Labor's incompetence is a sign of your political hypocrisy.

I don't support Labor, nor am I going to pretend that they do not have access to satellites or any other defence assets.
And why you do so I don't know why.

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Jan 10^th, 2012 at 7:03am:

____ wrote on Jan 9th, 2012 at 10:36pm: chicken_lipsforme wrote on Jan 9th, 2012 at 10:29pm: ____ wrote on Jan 9th, 2012 at 9:05pm: Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 9th, 2012 at 6:51pm: By the way, the Japanese didn't abduct them. The three men in question voluntarily boarded the ship. That the Japanese are refusing to release them due to their illegal boarding does not constitute abduction. It was in Australian waters ... so it is abduction. The Government are saying different. :) Would you have preferred them to be thrown over the side? This is the path the old parties have taken us ... first they undermined human life from overseas ... now they want to undermine Australian life. Thank goodness I still have my humanity ... thank goodness there are Greens supporters around ... and increasing in numbers. It is good to know the right now believe Labor to be competent all of a sudden.Now tell me, where did Labor get it's information of the where abouts of the Japanese illegal Whaling vessel ... from the boat it has observing? Hell has not frozen over yet Green, and Labor is still incompetent today as they were four years ago. And they still have access to satellites too eh. :) But you can't have it both ways you know. These three criminals either stay with the Japanese ship they voluntarily boarded, or they start swimming. Their choice really. And this has nothing to do with 'humanity'. These three are responsible for their own actions and will stand accountable for them. Perhaps the Sea Shepherd captain could show some of that 'humanity' himself, and not deny the three activists right to come back aboard where they came from eh. However, the Sea Shepherd captain has shown no interest in going back for his compatriots that he aided initially so well. Apparently that aid has a time limit applied which has now expired, and now the Australian taxpayer may have to foot the bill to 'rescue' these idiots.

Liberals support the Greens in Labor sending a ship down to observe and document the illegal activities of the butcherers.

How much do Liberals think this will cost in Taxes?

____ wrote on Jan 10^th, 2012 at 7:08am:

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Jan 10th, 2012 at 7:03am: ____ wrote on Jan 9th, 2012 at 10:36pm: chicken_lipsforme wrote on Jan 9th, 2012 at 10:29pm: ____ wrote on Jan 9th, 2012 at 9:05pm: Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 9th, 2012 at 6:51pm: By the way, the Japanese didn't abduct them. The three men in question voluntarily boarded the ship. That the Japanese are refusing to release them due to their illegal boarding does not constitute abduction. It was in Australian waters ... so it is abduction. The Government are saying different. :) Would you have preferred them to be thrown over the side? This is the path the old parties have taken us ... first they undermined human life from overseas ... now they want to undermine Australian life. Thank goodness I still have my humanity ... thank goodness there are Greens supporters around ... and increasing in numbers. It is good to know the right now believe Labor to be competent all of a sudden.Now tell me, where did Labor get it's information of the where abouts of the Japanese illegal Whaling vessel ... from the boat it has observing? Hell has not frozen over yet Green, and Labor is still incompetent today as they were four years ago. And they still have access to satellites too eh. :) But you can't have it both ways you know. These three criminals either stay with the Japanese ship they voluntarily boarded, or they start swimming. Their choice really. And this has nothing to do with 'humanity'. These three are responsible for their own actions and will stand accountable for them. Perhaps the Sea Shepherd captain could show some of that 'humanity' himself, and not deny the three activists right to come back aboard where they came from eh. However, the Sea Shepherd captain has shown no interest in going back for his compatriots that he aided initially so well. Apparently that aid has a time limit applied which has now expired, and now the Australian taxpayer may have to foot the bill to 'rescue' these idiots. Liberals support the Greens in Labor sending a ship down to observe and document the illegal activities of the butcherers. How much do Liberals think this will cost in Taxes?

They don't.
Liberals are in Opposition remember.
That's the Governments job to know that, if they can remember to actually do their job that is.
Perhaps Booby might have that info though.

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Jan 10^th, 2012 at 7:14am:

____ wrote on Jan 10th, 2012 at 7:08am: chicken_lipsforme wrote on Jan 10th, 2012 at 7:03am: ____ wrote on Jan 9th, 2012 at 10:36pm: chicken_lipsforme wrote on Jan 9th, 2012 at 10:29pm: ____ wrote on Jan 9th, 2012 at 9:05pm: Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 9th, 2012 at 6:51pm: By the way, the Japanese didn't abduct them. The three men in question voluntarily boarded the ship. That the Japanese are refusing to release them due to their illegal boarding does not constitute abduction. It was in Australian waters ... so it is abduction. The Government are saying different. :) Would you have preferred them to be thrown over the side? This is the path the old parties have taken us ... first they undermined human life from overseas ... now they want to undermine Australian life. Thank goodness I still have my humanity ... thank goodness there are Greens supporters around ... and increasing in numbers. It is good to know the right now believe Labor to be competent all of a sudden.Now tell me, where did Labor get it's information of the where abouts of the Japanese illegal Whaling vessel ... from the boat it has observing? Hell has not frozen over yet Green, and Labor is still incompetent today as they were four years ago. And they still have access to satellites too eh. :) But you can't have it both ways you know. These three criminals either stay with the Japanese ship they voluntarily boarded, or they start swimming. Their choice really. And this has nothing to do with 'humanity'. These three are responsible for their own actions and will stand accountable for them. Perhaps the Sea Shepherd captain could show some of that 'humanity' himself, and not deny the three activists right to come back aboard where they came from eh. However, the Sea Shepherd captain has shown no interest in going back for his compatriots that he aided initially so well. Apparently that aid has a time limit applied which has now expired, and now the Australian taxpayer may have to foot the bill to 'rescue' these idiots. Liberals support the Greens in Labor sending a ship down to observe and document the illegal activities of the butcherers. How much do Liberals think this will cost in Taxes? They don't. Liberals are in Opposition remember. That's the Governments job to know that, if they can remember to actually do their job that is. Perhaps Booby might have that info though.

Yes, the Left do have a habit of forgetting that Abbott Leader of the Opposition, not Prime Minister when they want to blame him for their own shortcomings - of which they have many.

____ wrote on Jan 10^th, 2012 at 7:08am:

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Jan 10th, 2012 at 7:03am: ____ wrote on Jan 9th, 2012 at 10:36pm: chicken_lipsforme wrote on Jan 9th, 2012 at 10:29pm: ____ wrote on Jan 9th, 2012 at 9:05pm: Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 9th, 2012 at 6:51pm: By the way, the Japanese didn't abduct them. The three men in question voluntarily boarded the ship. That the Japanese are refusing to release them due to their illegal boarding does not constitute abduction. It was in Australian waters ... so it is abduction. The Government are saying different. :) Would you have preferred them to be thrown over the side? This is the path the old parties have taken us ... first they undermined human life from overseas ... now they want to undermine Australian life. Thank goodness I still have my humanity ... thank goodness there are Greens supporters around ... and increasing in numbers. It is good to know the right now believe Labor to be competent all of a sudden.Now tell me, where did Labor get it's information of the where abouts of the Japanese illegal Whaling vessel ... from the boat it has observing? Hell has not frozen over yet Green, and Labor is still incompetent today as they were four years ago. And they still have access to satellites too eh. :) But you can't have it both ways you know. These three criminals either stay with the Japanese ship they voluntarily boarded, or they start swimming. Their choice really. And this has nothing to do with 'humanity'. These three are responsible for their own actions and will stand accountable for them. Perhaps the Sea Shepherd captain could show some of that 'humanity' himself, and not deny the three activists right to come back aboard where they came from eh. However, the Sea Shepherd captain has shown no interest in going back for his compatriots that he aided initially so well. Apparently that aid has a time limit applied which has now expired, and now the Australian taxpayer may have to foot the bill to 'rescue' these idiots. Liberals support the Greens in Labor sending a ship down to observe and document the illegal activities of the butcherers. How much do Liberals think this will cost in Taxes?

PIRATE'S  FFS   >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(

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Given that it was an 8000lb (3600kg) animal....exactly what could they do???...

Size has nothing to do with it. They had time to do something. They could have used an electric prod or shot it or harpooned it and hauled it off. This isn't the first time. They should have an incident protocol in place that doesn't mean stand around and gape.

Grey wrote on Jan 10^th, 2012 at 10:53am:

Quote: Given that it was an 8000lb (3600kg) animal....exactly what could they do???... Size has nothing to do with it. They had time to do something. They could have used an electric prod or shot it or harpooned it and hauled it off. This isn't the first time. They should have an incident protocol in place that doesn't mean stand around and gape.

But one of the trainers did dive in and attempt to rescue her...
And I doubt that an aquarium has harpoons or rifles standing by at the show pool...

Australia rebukes Japan over breach

THE Gillard government has complained to Japan after a whaling vessel went deep into Australian territorial waters in pursuit of a protest vessel.

Hours after Japan said yesterday it would release three Australian protesters who illegally boarded a whaling security ship, it emerged that another vessel of the Japanese fleet went as close as four nautical miles to Tasmania's Macquarie Island in pursuit of the activists' long-range ship Bob Barker.

This brought the Japanese ship, the whale catcher Yushin Maru No. 3, inside Australia's 12 nautical mile territorial limit, where domestic laws ban whaling.

A spokesman for Attorney-General Nicola Roxon said the government had complained to Japan about the incursion.

''We have asked our embassy [in Tokyo] today to reiterate to the Japanese government that whaling vessels are not welcome in Australian territorial waters,'' the spokesman said.

Earlier, Greens leader Bob Brown accused the Japanese of provoking the conflict by sailing into Australian territory. ''The whalers have taken one more step in aggravating this dispute,'' he said. ''They are thumbing their noses at Australia again.''

Meanwhile, south of WA, the Shonan Maru No. 2 steamed on in pursuit of the Sea Shepherd flagship, Steve Irwin, after the agreement to release the activists.

Ms Roxon said the Ocean Protector would be diverted from a fishing patrol to meet the Shonan Maru No. 2 and pick up the activists.

http://www.theage.com.au/national/australia-rebukes-japan-over-breach-20120110-1ptlv.html

That's telling 'em, Julia! I'm sure they were quaking in their kimono's.

____ wrote on Jan 10^th, 2012 at 11:38pm:

Australia rebukes Japan over breach THE Gillard government has complained to Japan after a whaling vessel went deep into Australian territorial waters in pursuit of a protest vessel. Hours after Japan said yesterday it would release three Australian protesters who illegally boarded a whaling security ship, it emerged that another vessel of the Japanese fleet went as close as four nautical miles to Tasmania's Macquarie Island in pursuit of the activists' long-range ship Bob Barker. This brought the Japanese ship, the whale catcher Yushin Maru No. 3, inside Australia's 12 nautical mile territorial limit, where domestic laws ban whaling. A spokesman for Attorney-General Nicola Roxon said the government had complained to Japan about the incursion. ''We have asked our embassy [in Tokyo] today to reiterate to the Japanese government that whaling vessels are not welcome in Australian territorial waters,'' the spokesman said. Earlier, Greens leader Bob Brown accused the Japanese of provoking the conflict by sailing into Australian territory. ''The whalers have taken one more step in aggravating this dispute,'' he said. ''They are thumbing their noses at Australia again.'' Meanwhile, south of WA, the Shonan Maru No. 2 steamed on in pursuit of the Sea Shepherd flagship, Steve Irwin, after the agreement to release the activists. Ms Roxon said the Ocean Protector would be diverted from a fishing patrol to meet the Shonan Maru No. 2 and pick up the activists. http://www.theage.com.au/national/australia-rebukes-japan-over-breach-20120110-1ptlv.html

They weren't whaling.
They were passing through.
Which means this is a 'non event'.
Booby might like to put two teaspoons of C-ment in his morning cocoa, and harden up.
The Japanese should have told Gillard to keep her freaky pirates off their vessels, lest next time they walk the plank for their efforts.