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Message started by abu_rashid on Jan 20th, 2012 at 7:31am

Title: Not surprising
Post by abu_rashid on Jan 20th, 2012 at 7:31am
One in five Americans mentally ill in past year, government report says

19 January 2012 / REUTERS, NEW YORK
One in five adults in the United States, or nearly 50 million people, suffered mental illnesses in the past year with women and young adults suffering disproportionately, a government report released on Thursday found.
The survey by the Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration found women were more likely than men (23 percent to 16.8 percent) to have experienced a mental illness, while the rate of mental illness among people aged 18 to 25 was twice that of those aged 50 and older.

The administration defined mental illness among adults as diagnosable mental, behavioral or emotional disorders, excluding developmental disorders and substance use.

The survey found that 5 percent of American adults, or 11.4 million people, had suffered a serious mental illness in the past year that substantially interfered with their lives.

The report found that about 8.7 million American adults had serious thoughts of suicide in the past year, with 2.5 million making suicide plans and 1.1 million attempting to take their own lives.

Americans suffering mental illnesses were three times as likely to have developed substance dependence or substance abuse disorders than adults who had not experienced mental illness.

Among youths aged 12 to 17, 8 percent -- or 1.9 million teenagers -- experienced a major depressive episode in the past year, defined as a period of at least 2 weeks when a person experienced a depressed mood or loss of interest.

Those teenagers who experienced a depressive episode also had twice the rate of illicit drug use than teenagers who had not experienced depression.

The administration surveyed 67,500 people aged 12 and older in person around the United States.

Source: [url=http://www.todayszaman.com/news-268998-one-in-five-americans-mentally-ill-in-past-year-government-report-says.html[/url]

Title: Re: Not surprising
Post by blackadder on Jan 20th, 2012 at 8:03am
Hey that's a lot better than the inbred Arabs. I believe their mental illness rate is 4.5 out of 5.

Title: Re: Not surprising
Post by Yadda on Jan 20th, 2012 at 11:40am
On a lighter note.....

The statistics on sanity are that one out of every four Americans is suffering from some form of mental illness.
Think of your three best friends.
If they're okay, then it's you.

    - Rita Mae Brown








What is 'INSANITY' ?
HERE, is a very simple definition of 'SANITY' and 'INSANITY'.....


Typically, an unrestrained sane person will act in ways which are harmless to others, and in ways which are creative, and productive [for himself, others, and society].

And typically, and conversely, an unrestrained INSANE person will act in ways which are harmful and destructive to himself, and, or, others around him.


" 'Normal' criminal behaviour - in mankind"
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1293669294/0#0



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Proverbs 3:1
My son, forget not my law; but let thine heart keep my commandments:
2  For length of days, and long life, and peace, shall they add to thee.
3  Let not mercy and truth forsake thee: bind them about thy neck; write them upon the table of thine heart:
4  So shalt thou find favour and good understanding in the sight of God and man.
5  Trust in the LORD with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding.
6  In all thy ways acknowledge him, and he shall direct thy paths.
7  Be not wise in thine own eyes: fear the LORD, and depart from evil.
8  It shall be health to thy navel, and marrow to thy bones.




Title: Re: Not surprising
Post by Bolshevik Destroyer on Jan 20th, 2012 at 12:29pm
Relevance to Islam Abu?

Title: Re: Not surprising
Post by freediver on Jan 20th, 2012 at 12:45pm
Perhaps he thinks it is evidence of the rapid growth of Islam.

Title: Re: Not surprising
Post by The honky tonk man on Jan 20th, 2012 at 1:08pm
Why doesn't this surprise you abu?

Title: Re: Not surprising
Post by Imperium IV on Jan 20th, 2012 at 1:11pm

Quote:
What is 'INSANITY' ?
HERE, is a very simple definition of 'SANITY' and 'INSANITY'.....


http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?action=viewprofile;username=536B6E6E6B0A0

Title: Re: Not surprising
Post by Yadda on Jan 20th, 2012 at 2:49pm

barnaby joe wrote on Jan 20th, 2012 at 1:11pm:

Quote:
What is 'INSANITY' ?
HERE, is a very simple definition of 'SANITY' and 'INSANITY'.....


http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?action=viewprofile;username=536B6E6E6B0A0




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Title: Re: Not surprising
Post by Annie Anthrax on Jan 20th, 2012 at 8:46pm

Quote:
Those teenagers who experienced a depressive episode also had twice the rate of illicit drug use than teenagers who had not experienced depression


Egg, chicken. Chicken, egg.

Title: Re: Not surprising
Post by abu_rashid on Jan 20th, 2012 at 10:19pm
Bolshie,

It's just an interesting fact. There's no rule in this forum that each topic needs to be Islam-related.

If you don't like the fact, you're free to ignore it. If you have a constructive comment to make about it, then feel welcome to do so.

Title: Re: Not surprising
Post by gizmo_2655 on Jan 20th, 2012 at 11:37pm

abu_rashid wrote on Jan 20th, 2012 at 10:19pm:
Bolshie,

It's just an interesting fact. There's no rule in this forum that each topic needs to be Islam-related.

If you don't like the fact, you're free to ignore it. If you have a constructive comment to make about it, then feel welcome to do so.



Perhaps it's not an increase in actual cases of mental illness.....but simply a redefinition of what constitutes mental illness....and an increase of willingness to diagnose (or over-diagnose) them...

Title: Re: Not surprising
Post by gizmo_2655 on Jan 20th, 2012 at 11:38pm

Annie Anthrax wrote on Jan 20th, 2012 at 8:46pm:

Quote:
Those teenagers who experienced a depressive episode also had twice the rate of illicit drug use than teenagers who had not experienced depression


Egg, chicken. Chicken, egg.



Absolutely Annie...

Title: Re: Not surprising
Post by freediver on Jan 21st, 2012 at 8:15am
I can understand why you would want to change the topic Abu.

Title: Re: Not surprising
Post by bobbythebat1 on Jan 21st, 2012 at 5:12pm
Abu - is religious fanaticism a mental illness?

Title: Re: Not surprising
Post by Bolshevik Destroyer on Jan 21st, 2012 at 7:12pm

abu_rashid wrote on Jan 20th, 2012 at 10:19pm:
Bolshie,

It's just an interesting fact. There's no rule in this forum that each topic needs to be Islam-related.

If you don't like the fact, you're free to ignore it. If you have a constructive comment to make about it, then feel welcome to do so.



Fair enough.

I am very skeptical of what is considered mental illness. Usually a pristine ideal is held up and any deviation is considered to be mental illness.
As Gizmo has said it's a case of over-diagnosis.

Title: Re: Not surprising
Post by adamant on Jan 21st, 2012 at 10:32pm
Is it not also an interesting fact that the first Moslem also suffered from a mental illness. If he were alive today his psychotic interludes could have been relieved, possibly cured and his seizures arrested.

Did you know that 14% of Australians will at some stage suffer from some sort of mental problem.

You can help Abu Rashid join Beyond Blue.

Title: Re: Not surprising
Post by Yadda on Jan 21st, 2012 at 11:20pm

Adamant wrote on Jan 21st, 2012 at 10:32pm:
Is it not also an interesting fact that the first Moslem also suffered from a mental illness.


If he were alive today his psychotic interludes could have been relieved, possibly cured and his seizures arrested.


Did you know that 14% of Australians will at some stage suffer from some sort of mental problem.

You can help Abu Rashid join Beyond Blue.



Demon possession is beyond the scope/capacity of human help or resolution.
....because demon possession is essentially a spiritual condition which the carnal mind does not comprehend.

Even especially the use of psychotropic drugs [by leftist, God hating psychiatrists] will only exacerbate the problem of demon possession.




People who have problems with 'their' demons need to directly call on God for help, relief.

But people who have 'problems' with demons rarely have the wit to call on God for help.

Catch 22.


Conclusion;
The damned are,   ...damned?



God is such a bad [unreasonable] dude....
/sarc off

Matthew 13:12
For whosoever hath, to him shall be given, and he shall have more abundance: but whosoever hath not, from him shall be taken away even that he hath.

Romans 9:18
Therefore hath he mercy on whom he will have mercy, and whom he will he hardeneth.
19  Thou wilt say then unto me, Why doth he yet find fault? For who hath resisted his will?





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Regards demons and demon possession, i came across this interesting post [a couple of years back], on the ABC ENOUGHROPE online forum....

"From: Lucy      7/04/2008 11:10:15 PM
Subject: re: Has anyone connected belief with mental illness?      post id: 1379

My son has schizophrenia and believes that the goodness of Christianity has saved him. Since reading the bible he no longer sees demons- if the demons ever reappear he reads the bible again and prays and the angels save him. How can I argue with that? better to be saved by an angel than tormented by a demon. That is how he lives with it. I should mention that prior to his illness he was not religious."

http://www2b.abc.net.au/enoughrope/forum2/archives/archive8/newposts/1/topic1934.shtm




IMO, Lucy's account reveals good advice.
...for spiritual protection [from demons], read the Bible, and pray [ask God to protect you].

IMO, reading the Bible is a form of spiritual invocation.

But people who hate God are too 'clever' to believe that.        ;D

Again, the Catch 22 paradigm comes into play.




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Protect yourself from demons???

How?

Pursue and defend Truth.

Always.

Or be damned by your own choice(s).


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