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Title: The Dutch clean up their Immigrant mess Post by red baron on Feb 23rd, 2012 at 2:26pm
From HOLLAND:
DUTCH: The Netherlands, where six per cent of the population is now Muslim, is scrapping multiculturalism: The Dutch government says it will abandon the long-standing model of multiculturalism that has encouraged Muslim immigrants to create a parallel society within the Netherlands. A new integration bill, which Dutch Interior Minister Piet Hein Donner presented to parliament on June 16, reads: "The government shares the social dissatisfaction over the multicultural society model and plans to shift priority to the values of the Dutch people. In the new integration system, the values of the Dutch society play a central role. With this change, the government steps away from the model of a multicultural society. The letter continues: "A more obligatory integration is justified because the government also demands that from its own citizens. It is necessary because otherwise the society gradually grows apart and eventually no one feels at home anymore in the Netherlands... The new integration policy will place more demands on immigrants. For example, immigrants will be required to learn the Dutch language, and the government will take a tougher approach to immigrants who ignore Dutch values or disobey Dutch law. The government will also stop offering special subsidies for Muslim immigrants because, according to Donner "It is not the government's job to integrate immigrants." (How bloody true). The government will introduce new legislation that outlaws forced marriages and will also impose tougher measures against Muslim immigrants who lower their chances of employment by the way they dress. More specifically, the government will impose a ban on face-covering, Islamic burqas as of January 1, 2013.(Why wait 15 months?) Holland has done that whole liberal thing, and realised - maybe too late - that creating a nation of tribes will kill the nation itself. Australia's future may well be read here. READERS NOTE: Muslim immigrants leave their countries of birth because of civil and political unrest "CREATED BY THE VERY NATURE OF THEIR CULTURE." Countries like Holland and Australia have an established way of life that actually works, so why embrace the unworkable? If Muslims do not wish to accept another culture, the answer is simple; "STAY WHERE YOU ARE!!" This gives a whole new meaning to the term; 'Dutch Courage' - Unfortunately Australian politicians don't have the ... guts to do the same. There's a whole lot of truth here!!!! ELECTION 2013 IS COMING A Nation of Sheep, Breeds a Government of Wolves! |
Title: Re: The Dutch clean up their Immigrant mess Post by falah on Feb 23rd, 2012 at 5:39pm
Yeah weve seen this sort of thing before:
Spanish inquisitions European Fascism and Nazism Pol Pot Mao Stalin |
Title: Re: The Dutch clean up their Immigrant mess Post by red baron on Feb 23rd, 2012 at 5:50pm
That's right falah...and just when Uncle Red Baron thought it was safe to go back into the water.
That's why the Muslims have been fighting each other for centuries, tribe against tribe, mate against mate, state against state. You're mob are such a fu.ked up mob that we just don't need you here. Pack that prayer roll up and piss off back to that fly blown Mecca or wherever it is you hold holy. We don't need for the shite you put out in this country. |
Title: Re: The Dutch clean up their Immigrant mess Post by adelcrow on Feb 23rd, 2012 at 6:40pm
These countries only have their past expansionism threw colonialism to blame for their current situation.
If they didnt want migration they shouldnt have forced it on others through past centuries. |
Title: Re: The Dutch clean up their Immigrant mess Post by djrbfm on Feb 23rd, 2012 at 7:19pm
Australia must follow this model.
Multiculturalism is MultiBullshit. j. |
Title: Re: The Dutch clean up their Immigrant mess Post by falah on Feb 23rd, 2012 at 7:24pm red baron wrote on Feb 23rd, 2012 at 5:50pm:
Fighting eh? Let's look at Christian mutual love and respect for their fellow Christians over the past 300 years. We have WWI, WWII, US bombing of Serbia, Russian/Georgian War, The Troubles, Basque Conflict, Spanish Civil War, Greek Civil War, US Civil War, Austrian Civil War, Irish Civil War, Polish-Lithuanian War, Anglo-Irish War, Czechoslovakia-Hungary War, Hungarian–Romanian War of 1919, Latvian War of Independence, Estonian Liberation War, Greater Poland Uprising, Polish-Ukrainian War, Finnish Civil War, Easter Rising, Serbo-Bulgarian War, Franco-Prussian War, Cretan Revolt, Austro-Prussian War, First Italian Independence War Second Italian War of Independence, Third Italian War of Independence, 1848-1849 Hungarian Revolution, Sonderbund War, November Uprising, Ten Days Campaign, Liberal Wars, French invasion of Spain, Wallachian uprising of 1821, 1809 Polish-Austrian War, 1803-1815 Napoleonic Wars, Irish Rebellion of 1798, 1792-1802 French Revolutionary Wars, Polish–Russian War of 1792, Saxon Peasants' Revolt, War of the Bavarian Succession, American Revolutionary War, Seven Years' War, Jacobite Rising of 1745, Russo-Swedish War, Silesian Wars, War of the Austrian Succession, War of the Polish Succession, Anglo-Spanish War, Jacobite Rising of 1715, Toggenburg war, War of the Spanish Succession,War of the Quadruple Alliance, and the Great Northern War, as well as a few others. |
Title: Re: The Dutch clean up their Immigrant mess Post by Annie Anthrax on Feb 23rd, 2012 at 7:32pm djrbfm wrote on Feb 23rd, 2012 at 7:19pm:
Much like your posts, eh? |
Title: Re: The Dutch clean up their Immigrant mess Post by red baron on Feb 23rd, 2012 at 7:59pm
This country has been relatively peaceful. Now drive by shootings are a way of life in wester Sydney.
These crimes are Middle Eastern based. I base this not on newspaper reports but on my experience as a Police Officer. further Annie Anthrax, I have worked a number of years in Special Services. If you heard what the Muslims say about white Australian women I can assure you, that you would have a very, very different opinion to the one you have now. Even a hard arse like me would not sully these pages with a repetition of the filth regarding Australian women, that I have heard in Muslim phone calls that were intercepted during crime investigations. |
Title: Re: The Dutch clean up their Immigrant mess Post by hawil on Feb 23rd, 2012 at 8:33pm falah wrote on Feb 23rd, 2012 at 5:39pm:
Falah that is all in the past and I wouldn't say it was good, but lets live now and in the future. I,am also a migrant but I think that as migrants we should not try to change the country to our ways, unless everybody benefits from it, and I do not think that the Muslim way will do that. |
Title: Re: The Dutch clean up their Immigrant mess Post by Soren on Feb 23rd, 2012 at 8:49pm falah wrote on Feb 23rd, 2012 at 7:24pm:
And you know about all of these from Christian sources: Open to learning from mistakes. Self-critical. Trying to improve. Self-reflecting. Allowing various points of view. Mature. Islam: how many of your caliphs have been murdered by other muslims- not counting the first 3 or 4, fighting over what Mohammedanism meant? How has Islam improved on the back of its mistakes? Any evidence of Islam self-correcting? Er.... no.The 7th century model is still best, as far as you guys are concerned. Islam's history is a long, unbroken and on-going demonstration of its closed-mindedness and absolute inability to learn from mistakes or to self-correct. In psychiatric terms, that is called sociopathy. |
Title: Re: The Dutch clean up their Immigrant mess Post by falah on Feb 23rd, 2012 at 8:51pm red baron wrote on Feb 23rd, 2012 at 7:59pm:
My grandfather lived next door to Squizzie Taylor in the 1920's, and it was such a peaceful era. Quote:
Was the ASIO bombing of the Hilton Hotel peaceful? Russell St bombing peaceful? Hoddle St massacre peaceful? Port Arthur massacre peaceful? Australian invasion of Vietnam peaceful? Australian invasion of Iraq peaceful? Australian invasion of Afghanistan peaceful? British genocide of Aborigines peaceful? (The Christian British almost managed to kill every single Aborigine in Tasmania) red baron wrote on Feb 23rd, 2012 at 7:59pm:
A few intercepted phone calls from a few hardened criminals? Likely to be representative of the 500,000 law-abiding Muslims living in Australia you reckon. That is like going to a Hells Angels meeting and afterwards saying: "So that is what Anglo-Saxon Christians are like!" |
Title: Re: The Dutch clean up their Immigrant mess Post by Soren on Feb 23rd, 2012 at 8:55pm falah wrote on Feb 23rd, 2012 at 8:51pm:
So therefore Middle Eastern Muslim crime should have a free pass??? |
Title: Re: The Dutch clean up their Immigrant mess Post by falah on Feb 23rd, 2012 at 9:07pm Soren wrote on Feb 23rd, 2012 at 8:55pm:
All crinminals should be treated equally before the law. No free pass for anyone. |
Title: Re: The Dutch clean up their Immigrant mess Post by Karnal on Feb 23rd, 2012 at 10:40pm
You wogs wouldn't have a clue about the culture of this country. You think it's some European replica. It isn't.
My great uncle fought the Turks in Gallipoli. He never hated Turks. In fact, he had a great deal of respect for them. You see, the Turks won. You can't be a good Aussie if you're not a good loser. It's central to our makeup. It comes from our endless fight with an alien environment. The superior man accepts defeat and just gets on with it. The bad loser holds a grudge and never lets it go. He moans endlessly about forces outside his control - floods, droughts, people, governments. He's like a spoilt little girl. He wants to control his environment like a European. Aussies see obstacles as sport. We see war as sport. On the other hand, we see sport as war. The worst thing you can say about an Australian is that he's a bad loser. We fight hard, but if we lose we take it in our stride. This Kraut bullsh!t about immigrants is completely unAustralian. We don't give two sh!ts if you come here and shoot yourself in the foot. It's your life, and it's a big country. Besides, you'll probably make just as many mistakes here as we did. Just don't moan about it. If you want to whinge, p!ss off back to your salami-eating concentration camp of a country and leave us alone. |
Title: Re: The Dutch clean up their Immigrant mess Post by chicken_lipsforme on Feb 24th, 2012 at 7:47am red baron wrote on Feb 23rd, 2012 at 2:26pm:
The British PM said much the same thing about multiculturalism being a failure. It won't surprise me to see other European nations follow. Two such opposed societies in one country was never going to work. |
Title: Re: The Dutch clean up their Immigrant mess Post by Annie Anthrax on Feb 24th, 2012 at 8:10am red baron wrote on Feb 23rd, 2012 at 7:59pm:
I'm a white Australian woman married to a Muslim man. He's always treated me and every other woman (regardless of their nationality or religion) in his life with respect - even the ones who didn't deserve it. He has three brothers that are the same. I bet the phone calls of non-Muslim criminals were positively mesmerising in their charm factor. |
Title: Re: The Dutch clean up their Immigrant mess Post by red baron on Feb 24th, 2012 at 8:28am
The trouble with you Annie Anthrax you are so far up yourself you don't know what the truth is when it is held right in front of your dial.
I have ABSOLUTELY NIL REASONS to lie about my life experiences. What I said about the repulsive way Muslim men spoke about white Australian women, in intercepted telephone calls made during major investigations, phone calls that I personally monitored,during those investigations are true. Whether you choose to believe my word on oath is of little consequence to me. You can go on believing that they are all like your husband and his brothers. I can tell you categorically they are not! |
Title: Re: The Dutch clean up their Immigrant mess Post by Karnal on Feb 24th, 2012 at 8:32am
The funny thing is Big Red thinks this country used to be full of peaceniks. You know, the painters and dockers in Melbourne, Abe Saffron, Chicago mobsters and the various crime syndicates and casino operators in Sydney, the Queensland Police in Queensland - and all of them hooked up with their political backers: the Labor Party, the Liberal Party, the National Party, Bolte, Askin, and Joh.
They were simpler times. The real crims got off scott-free while some poor bastard in the wrong place at the wrong time got a talking to with the phone book and a typed up confession to sign. Yeah, bring back the good old days, Red. |
Title: Re: The Dutch clean up their Immigrant mess Post by Annie Anthrax on Feb 24th, 2012 at 8:36am red baron wrote on Feb 24th, 2012 at 8:28am:
Comprehension isn't your strong point is it? You were listening to the phone calls of criminals. Do you think white non-Muslim criminals are paragons of chivalry and virtue? |
Title: Re: The Dutch clean up their Immigrant mess Post by blackadder on Feb 24th, 2012 at 8:42am Karnal wrote on Feb 24th, 2012 at 8:32am:
You left out Wran, Murphy and Grassby. Now we have Hells Angels, Commancheros, Finks, Nomads, Bandidos, Coffin Cheaters, Notorious plus the muslims involved with drugs, car rebirthing, drive by shootings, extortion etc. Give me the old days anytime. |
Title: Re: The Dutch clean up their Immigrant mess Post by Karnal on Feb 24th, 2012 at 9:01am blackadder wrote on Feb 24th, 2012 at 8:42am:
Grassby and Murphy were federal ministers. Nifty Nev - who knows? He seems to have gotten away with it. The other premiers, however, received brown paper bags to look the other way and keep crime going. In the case of Joh, his ministers did. Jesus - drive by shootings in places like Double Bay and Surry Hills were commonplace. Depending on who was involved, the cops left them alone. It went all the way to the top. In Sydney, this was the actual policing strategy (as Neddy Smith found out when he was granted the Green Light). You were either in with the cops, and okay, or on the outer, and dead before long. This was the system of justice in NSW. So when the old boy and others rail on about corruption in other countries, take it with a grain of salt. We used to be just as bad here - the good old days. |
Title: Re: The Dutch clean up their Immigrant mess Post by Karnal on Feb 24th, 2012 at 9:33am falah wrote on Feb 23rd, 2012 at 8:51pm:
It wasn't ASIO. All evidence points to the Special Branch of the NSW police, who were closed down after recommendations by the Wood Commission. This, it needs to be said, is the only terrorist attack to have occurred on Australian soil, and it was carried out by the NSW police. Muslims just talk about it. Cops do it. The good old days. |
Title: Re: The Dutch clean up their Immigrant mess Post by Soren on Feb 24th, 2012 at 12:44pm Karnal wrote on Feb 23rd, 2012 at 10:40pm:
And you and your family have been dining out on that ever since. Bravo. |
Title: Re: The Dutch clean up their Immigrant mess Post by Karnal on Feb 24th, 2012 at 1:10pm Soren wrote on Feb 24th, 2012 at 12:44pm:
We know what you and your family dine on, old boy. Cheese. So do us all a favour and save your farts for when you're in bed with the wife: another European invention. The Dutch oven. |
Title: Re: The Dutch clean up their Immigrant mess Post by Soren on Feb 24th, 2012 at 1:33pm Karnal wrote on Feb 24th, 2012 at 1:10pm:
Funny. For a Paki Bugger. |
Title: Re: The Dutch clean up their Immigrant mess Post by red baron on Feb 24th, 2012 at 4:03pm
Like I said falah, In was a cop for almost 230 years and have seen just about it all. Muslims and their crime involvement do not paint a pretty picture.
I am not saying all Muslims are bad. To the contrary, there are many law abiding Muslims who go about their life without bothering anyone. But the huge problem is that Muslims refuse to integrate into the Australian Society like other migrants and embrace the old ways. These are not good ways, for a start women are treated like good and chattels. Many in the Muslim community are simply too fanatical...way too fanatical. Simple terms falah, many in your Community want Sharia Law which without doubt is barbaric. Therein lies the conundrum. You live in Australia where it is fairly easy going and we believe in a 'fair go'. Your people must adapt to our ways or leave. |
Title: Re: The Dutch clean up their Immigrant mess Post by adelcrow on Feb 24th, 2012 at 5:17pm red baron wrote on Feb 24th, 2012 at 4:03pm:
They should behave more like Aboriginals? Coz everyone else is an immigrant with very different cultural experiences. |
Title: Re: The Dutch clean up their Immigrant mess Post by Karnal on Feb 24th, 2012 at 6:04pm
Easy going is an understatement. The majority of whingers in this country are curtain peering deeries like the old boy. All they want is everything done exactly as it always was. The bins placed just so on the nature strip, the neighbour's washing taken in when it's dry, dinner on the table in time for Today Tonight, and everyone under thirty off the streets and out of sight. Mother would still be wiping their arses if they could get away with it.
Australia is too easy on these types. They need the wind put up them to keep them from becoming fossilised within their own mediocrity. Too relaxed and comfortable. If the Muslims WERE doing anything to keep these types on their toes, I'd say good on them. Instead, they grow and spread throughout the body politic like pond weed. With no natural threats, they have to import them from Europe. Muslims are the Ikea furniture of security risks. You have to assemble them yourself. When there's no burqa crisis or mosque development application scandal to drum up and selectively edit for Today Tonight, it's over to Holland to fish something up. |
Title: Re: The Dutch clean up their Immigrant mess Post by GoddyofOz on Feb 24th, 2012 at 6:19pm So ultimately, Brevik got his way. What a way to demonstrate that Terrorism and Murder work. |
Title: Re: The Dutch clean up their Immigrant mess Post by Imperium on Feb 24th, 2012 at 8:06pm
germany welcomes the united states in peace and friendship
it is the wish of the fuhrer that relations between our countries will prosper and develop |
Title: Re: The Dutch clean up their Immigrant mess Post by falah on Feb 24th, 2012 at 8:23pm red baron wrote on Feb 24th, 2012 at 4:03pm:
Only 230 years? Why don't you come back after you've 460, then you might know what you are talking about. |
Title: Re: The Dutch clean up their Immigrant mess Post by Annie Anthrax on Feb 24th, 2012 at 8:30pm
Red Baron, are you one of those grandpas that walked 75 miles to school uphill both ways while carrying his three younger siblings?
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Title: Re: The Dutch clean up their Immigrant mess Post by Karnal on Feb 24th, 2012 at 8:58pm barnaby joe wrote on Feb 24th, 2012 at 8:06pm:
Very good, Imperium. The only question I have for you is this - do you want to become a curtain peeper, or a man? Your choice, son. |
Title: Re: The Dutch clean up their Immigrant mess Post by Annie Anthrax on Feb 24th, 2012 at 9:05pm
Curtain peepers and eavesdroppers never hear anything good about themselves.
Go for the man. |
Title: Re: The Dutch clean up their Immigrant mess Post by Imperium on Feb 24th, 2012 at 9:18pm Karnal wrote on Feb 24th, 2012 at 8:58pm:
i am a man |
Title: Re: The Dutch clean up their Immigrant mess Post by red baron on Feb 25th, 2012 at 7:44am
Yes, you got me falah, have to say you are smarter than the average bear.
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Title: Re: The Dutch clean up their Immigrant mess Post by red baron on Feb 25th, 2012 at 8:14am
Annie Anthrax, knew that post would do it for you, must have been the equivalent of getting off! Glad to help out in any small way I can Annie, anything i can do to get you over mountain.
Must admit though some days it did feel like 230 years. |
Title: Re: The Dutch clean up their Immigrant mess Post by Karnal on Feb 25th, 2012 at 9:49am barnaby joe wrote on Feb 24th, 2012 at 9:18pm:
How many tours have you done? |
Title: Re: The Dutch clean up their Immigrant mess Post by Imperium on Feb 25th, 2012 at 3:26pm Karnal wrote on Feb 25th, 2012 at 9:49am:
45 |
Title: Re: The Dutch clean up their Immigrant mess Post by red baron on Feb 25th, 2012 at 3:54pm
Ah think Karnal is talking about Tours of Duty in a theatre of war as a combatant imperium, not with Jet Set Travel to Bali....
Of course I know you wouldn't be so rude as to pull Karnal's leg now would you? I mean you wouldn't be cruel enough to pull that one on with someone who has been brave enough to go and fight for their Nation? No....of course not! |
Title: Re: The Dutch clean up their Immigrant mess Post by Karnal on Feb 25th, 2012 at 4:30pm
Chopper Reed once wrote a letter to the defence minister from Pentridge Prison. He offered a Dirty Dozen style unit of crims to fight in the world's hell holes in return for their freedom.
Why not do the same? You wouldn't have to go overseas, Imperium. I can't see why the next government, in their infinite wisdom, couldn't declare war on the Dubbo housing estates. You'd be in a prime position to take out the trash, old son. The army hasn't fought on Aussie soil since Chifley's miners strikes. I think we can all agree that the time's right for a proper Aussie war. You in, son? |
Title: Re: The Dutch clean up their Immigrant mess Post by FRED. on Feb 25th, 2012 at 4:48pm Karnal wrote on Feb 25th, 2012 at 4:30pm:
The 1949 Australian coal strike is the first time that Australian military forces were used during peacetime to break a Trade union strike. The strike by 23,000 coal miners lasted for seven weeks, from 27 June 1949 to 15 August 1949, with troops being sent in by the Ben Chifley Federal Labor Government to the open cut coal mines in New South Wales on 28 July 1949, with the workers returning to work defeated two weeks later. FIGHT MY ARSE LOL LOL ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D |
Title: Re: The Dutch clean up their Immigrant mess Post by Karnal on Feb 25th, 2012 at 6:29pm
Mate, if our army can put down a few miners, we can get started on the bogans. The army's got doctors, shrinks, the lot. There's no reason they couldn't classify them according to IQ, looks and ability and do something useful with them all.
I reckon you'll have a sympathetic ear with the next federal government, Imperium, so it mght be worth getting started on that submission. Maybe you could get started on Corporate Whitey. Get a bit of a pilot project happening. It can't hurt, old son. |
Title: Re: The Dutch clean up their Immigrant mess Post by Annie Anthrax on Feb 25th, 2012 at 6:34pm FRED. wrote on Feb 25th, 2012 at 4:48pm:
Oh, look. Someone knows how to copy and paste. He couldn't possibly have strung all those lower case words together by himself. Fight your own arse, Freddo. |
Title: Re: The Dutch clean up their Immigrant mess Post by Soren on Feb 25th, 2012 at 7:52pm
That's it. The Paki Bugger and Annie "is this my arse or my elbow, I can't make up my mind" Anthrax team up.
They sweep all before them. Thank you linesmen, thank you ball boys. |
Title: Re: The Dutch clean up their Immigrant mess Post by Annie Anthrax on Feb 25th, 2012 at 8:00pm
We were talking about Fred's arse, not mine.
At least try and keep on topic, ball boy. |
Title: Re: The Dutch clean up their Immigrant mess Post by Soren on Feb 25th, 2012 at 8:05pm Annie Anthrax wrote on Feb 25th, 2012 at 8:00pm:
Regardless of the topic, you, like the song, remain the same, Annie "is this my arse or my elbow, I can't make up my mind" Anthrax. |
Title: Re: The Dutch clean up their Immigrant mess Post by Imperium on Feb 25th, 2012 at 8:11pm
i dont even get sorens post, lol.
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Title: Re: The Dutch clean up their Immigrant mess Post by Annie Anthrax on Feb 25th, 2012 at 8:12pm
He thinks everyone is as interested in arses as he is.
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Title: Re: The Dutch clean up their Immigrant mess Post by Karnal on Feb 25th, 2012 at 8:21pm
I'm sure the old boy and the ball boys could get quite intimate, as long as it was "consentual."
How's that for a bullsh!t PC term, eh? |
Title: Re: The Dutch clean up their Immigrant mess Post by Annie Anthrax on Feb 25th, 2012 at 8:23pm
If he played it right, they wouldn't even have to know.
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Title: Re: The Dutch clean up their Immigrant mess Post by Karnal on Feb 25th, 2012 at 8:48pm
Hey Red, it sounds like Annie's ex-army too.
Good on you, love. |
Title: Re: The Dutch clean up their Immigrant mess Post by FRED. on Feb 26th, 2012 at 6:24am Annie Anthrax wrote on Feb 25th, 2012 at 8:12pm:
What are you on about ? |
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