Moslems are ALWAYS, INTENTIONALLY, lying to us.




I made this accusation against ISLAM/moslems.....



Yadda wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2012 at 10:21am:

IT IS OK TO RAPE NON-MOSLEM WOMEN WITHIN YOUR PHYSICAL CONTROL.... FROM THE KORAN, "..Also (prohibited are) women already married, except those whom your right hands possess:..." Koran 4.22-24 "O Prophet! We have made lawful to thee thy wives to whom thou hast paid their dowers; and those whom thy right hand possesses out of the prisoners of war whom Allah has assigned to thee;..." Koran 33.50 "women.....whom your right hands possess" ??? Q. What does that mean ??? A. war booty, i.e. female captives. ISLAMIC DOCTRINE; It is perfectly OK [i.e. 'lawful'] for moslems to have non-consensual sex with non-moslem female captives. But that is in scenario of captives taken in a war. Q. Who is at war ??? A. Moslems, with all non-moslems.

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TrueISLAM responded with this;


TrueISLAM wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2012 at 1:14pm:

The people who did this disqusting act have gone agains the teaching of The Holy Quran they have commited adultry if married and fronication is unmarried. These are the people I really dispise they disgust me and dishonour the image of Islam and put a bad name againt Islam. these few bad apples give a bad image to islam and those wahabi salafies as of the link you have provided about that man whos link you have yoused he is a wahabi salafi these people go against the teachings of Quran and sunnah they are extremist. why dont you look at the true islam.

AND WITH THIS;



TrueISLAM wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2012 at 2:17pm:

You are a real hypocryte and a lier i have ever heard you have fabricated narations from hadit guve me qutoes and reference no of which hadiths it says that in about the companions and the prophet doing indecencies with other women, this is utterly against islam you are teaching the fale image of Islam you are a radicalised jew zionist, your propaganda is hate agains islam,......

Poor thing.
/sarc off



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Moslems are ALWAYS, INTENTIONALLY, lying to us.


In my previous posts i asserted that moslems can 'lawfully' have non-consensual sex [rape] with non-moslem, captive females.

TrueISLAM, has asserted that sex outside of marriage is a crime in ISLAM.

...AND HAS ASSERTED THAT A WOMAN MUST GIVE HER CONSENT, IN HER MARRIAGE TO A MOSLEM MAN.


TrueISLAM presented....

Quote:

EVIDENCE #9: Consent in Marriage A women must be consulted and must agree in order to make a marriage valid (Mishakat al Masabiah, translation by James Robson, Vol. I, p. 665). Islamically, credible permission from women is a prerequisite for a marriage to be valid.....

UK, young girls plied with drugs, then raped,
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1329870100/26#26






TrueISLAM,

In your assertions about the true, 'virtuous' nature of ISLAM, your assertions have no credibility, AT ALL.

If you want credibility, then you and all 'supposed' 'good' moslems would be fighting a 'Jihad' against moslem 'impersonators' like these [item below], who 'supposedly' are dragging ISLAM's 'good name' through a sewer.


And this evidence, is a REPUDIATION, of your assertion, that the ISLAM insists that consent of the woman must be obtained, before her marriage.....


Quote:

Somalia: Al-Shabaab abducting teenage girls to "marry" jihadists "A 16-year-old girl who refused to marry an al-Shabaab commander who was three times her age was killed by his men and beheaded." "Girls were taken at gunpoint. One girl said she could not go and al-Shabaab shot her in the forehead in front of my class."

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2012/02/somalia-al-shabaab-abducting-teenage-girls-to-marry-jihadists.html



But instead, you 'good' moslems only berate those honest people, who have the honesty, to condemn those violent depraved criminals who are moslems.



TrueISLAM,

When are you, YOU, and your 'brothers' going to go to Somalia, to fight against these moslem 'impersonators', who are 'misunderstanding' ISLAM, and bringing the name of ISLAM into disrepute ???




TrueISLAM,
Unless you are willing to go to Somalia, to 'struggle against' these moslem 'impersonators', who are 'misunderstanding' ISLAM, and bringing the name of ISLAM into disrepute, I WILL COUNT YOU AS A MOSLEM DECEIVER, AND AS A BARE FACED LIAR.

And i will believe that you are >> INTENTIONALLY << lying, and >> INTENTIONALLY << mis-representing ISLAM to myself and to all non-moslems.



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Moslems are bare-faced liars.

All moslems are bare-faced liars.

And ALL 'good' moslems >> ALWAYS <<, and >> INTENTIONALLY << mis-represent ISLAM to non-moslem host communities.

Moslems HAVE NO SHAME when they lie to non-moslems.

Because moslems know that lying to non-moslems, and hiding ISLAM's real intent towards non-moslems, is 'good works'.

Deceiving non-moslems, in 'the cause of Allah', is 'good works'.

i.e.
Moslems are certain, that it is 'virtuous' to lie to 'unbelievers', to aid Allah's cause.



Google;
taqiyya - the muslim doctrine of deceit

Google;
we smile to the face "while our hearts curse them"




“Speaking is a means to achieve objectives. If a praiseworthy aim is attainable through both telling the truth and lying, it is unlawful to accomplish it through lying because there is no need for it. When it is possible to achieve such an aim by lying but not by telling the truth, it is permissible to lie if attaining the goal is permissible..., and obligatory to lie if the goal is obligatory. ...One should compare the bad consequences entailed by lying to those entailed by telling the truth, and if the consequences of telling the truth are more damaging, one is entitled to lie…”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taqiyya



How Taqiyya Alters Islams Rules of War
http://www.meforum.org/2538/taqiyya-islam-rules-of-war



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Quote:

"The process of settlement is a 'Civilization-Jihadist Process' with all the word means. The Ikhwan must understand that their work in America is a kind of grand jihad in eliminating and destroying the Western civilization from within and 'sabotaging' its miserable house by their hands and the hands of the believers so that it is eliminated and God's religion is made victorious over all other religions."

http://shariahthethreat.org/a-short-course-1-what-is-shariah/a-short-course-14-the-muslim-brotherhood%E2%80%99s-strategic-plan/



Islam: where freedom ends and slavery begins.

source.....
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2012/02/nypd-monitored-muslim-students-all-over-northeast-muslim-brotherhood-linked-msa-and-media-enablers-i.html#comment-858271

Moslems are ALWAYS, INTENTIONALLY, lying to us.



Q.
If that statement/assertion [above] is true, what is the motivation of moslems to incessantly lie to our faces ?

A.
Moslems are justified, in their deceit towards non-moslems, because ISLAM is engaged in never warfare against the un-ISLAMIC world.


"......the curse of Allah is on those without Faith."
Koran 2.089


"....Lo! Allah is an enemy to those who reject Faith."
Koran 2.98



i.e.
ISLAM inculcates into the psyche of ALL good moslems, that 'unbelief' is a crime against Allah.

And that the only REAL basis of 'relationship' between a moslem, and an 'unbeliever', must be the never-ending hatred of the 'unbeliever'.




Further evidence confirming the reality, that ISLAM is in a circumstance of neverending warfare, with all non-moslems, and with all non-moslem jurisdictions....


"As to the relationship between Muslims and infidels,..."   ...OBL


"....Battle, animosity, and hatred -- directed from the Muslim to the infidel -- is the foundation of our religion.."
OBL

ISLAM's way of achieving 'peace' explained - according to Osama Bin Laden...
OR,
Advice to real moslems, on how to be 'rightly guided' in your worldly relationships with infidels.

November 10, 2008
Raymond Ibrahim: "Islam's Doctrines of Deception"

Quote:

"As to the relationship between Muslims and infidels, this is summarized by the Most High's Word: ‘We renounce you. Enmity and hate shall forever reign between us -- till you believe in Allah alone’ [Koran 60:4]. So there is an enmity, evidenced by fierce hostility from the heart. And this fierce hostility -- that is, battle -- ceases only if the infidel submits to the authority of Islam, or if his blood is forbidden from being shed [i.e., a dhimmi], or if Muslims are at that point in time weak and incapable [i.e., taqiyya]. But if the hate at any time extinguishes from the heart, this is great apostasy!  Such, then, is the basis and foundation of the relationship between the infidel and the Muslim. Battle, animosity, and hatred -- directed from the Muslim to the infidel -- is the foundation of our religion. And we consider this a justice and kindness to them" (from The Al Qaeda Reader). .....It bears repeating that this hostile world view is well supported by all of Islam’s schools of jurisprudence."

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2008/11/raymond-ibrahim-islams-doctrines-of-deception.html



n.b. the words....

".....But if the hate at any time extinguishes from the heart [of a moslem], this is great apostasy!"

Translation....

i.e.
ISLAM is teaching moslems, commanding moslems, that you can only be a REAL moslem, if you have a [open or, concealed] burning, never-ending HATRED for all non-moslems.


"There is for you an excellent example (to follow) in Abraham and those with him, when they said to their people: "We are clear of you and of whatever ye worship besides Allah: we have rejected you, and there has arisen, between us and you, enmity and hatred for ever,- unless ye believe in Allah and Him alone"....."
Koran 60:4