the worm has turned ......


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IT WAS tempting to rush out and scan the sky for a blue moon or flying pork. The Speaker had ordered Prime Minister Julia Gillard to clam up and sit down. His reason? She was being irrelevant. No one could remember the like of it. Prime ministers and their ministers have traditionally spent large portions of every question time avoiding what most people would recognise as a semblance of relevance in responding to questions. The Speaker, Peter Slipper, has the quaint view that questions should be answered. Prime Minister Julia Gillard was forced to sit down. Resplendent in black robe, white bow tie and barrister's tabs, fresh from his latest ceremonial procession to the House, Mr Slipper decided to enforce his edict at the first opportunity yesterday. His mood was possibly sharpened by the appearance of the fellow he replaced as Speaker, Harry Jenkins, sporting his own silvery bow tie. The view around Parliament was that Mr Jenkins was gently taking the mickey. Opposition Leader Tony Abbott opened combat with his favourite subject: reminding Ms Gillard that she had promised during the last election campaign that there would be no carbon tax. Now she was introducing just such a tax and had admitted she had made mistakes she regretted, would she ''rescind her deception'' and put aside the tax until she took it to the next election? Mr Slipper ordered Mr Abbott to withdraw the word ''deception''. But when Ms Gillard launched into her answer the full might of the Speaker was exerted. ''Putting a price on carbon was the right thing to do and I stand by it,'' Ms Gillard began, her eyes turning flinty in the style she has assumed following the Great Unpleasantness of the past week. And then, in her well-practised manner, Ms Gillard turned the question on its head and got stuck into the opposition, declaring that Coalition MPs might like to explain why they had promised to introduce a price on carbon during the 2007 election campaign. As she reached full throttle, Mr Slipper called for her to be ''directly relevant'' to the question. Ms Gillard sailed on, and the Speaker hollered again for her to get back to the subject at hand. The Prime Minister, who appeared to have been studying Meryl Streep's Oscar-winning depiction of Maggie Thatcher in The Iron Lady, wasn't for turning. It was a battle of wills. Mr Slipper triumphed. He simply turned off the Prime Minister's microphone, told her she would no longer be heard and sat her down. Ms Gillard appeared thunderstruck.Speakers in the past have found themselves defrocked for lesser slights to a prime minister's dignity. But Mr Slipper pretty clearly knows Ms Gillard can't afford to have him back on the benches voting with the Coalition. She needs him exactly where he is, and he is free to behave as independently as he likes. Which, it appears, is quite a lot.

http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/opinion/politics/speaker-in-drivers-seat-as-battle-of-wills-leaves-irrelevant-gillard-speechless-20120228-1u12c.html

noice

These labor idiots just dont know conciquences of their actions until it all falls over on top of them.

Very noice.

progressiveslol wrote on Feb 29^th, 2012 at 10:08am:

These labor idiots just dont know conciquences of their actions until it all falls over on top of them. Very noice.

Slipper is actually taking his role pretty seriously.
Just remember your NOICE when he does the same thing to Abbott.
I have no problem with the mics being turned off & members being admonished for refusing to stay relevant.

Gillard won't like it if she can't dither and blither.

We finally have a speaker who takes their job seriously.
Good on him..hopefully it goes a long way to cleaning up the unprofessional rabble that occurs during question time.

adelcrow wrote on Feb 29^th, 2012 at 10:20am:

We finally have a speaker who takes their job seriously. Good on him..hopefully it goes a long way to cleaning up the unprofessional rabble that occurs during question time.

Yep to ^^^^^

Dsmithy70 wrote on Feb 29^th, 2012 at 10:17am:

progressiveslol wrote on Feb 29th, 2012 at 10:08am: These labor idiots just dont know conciquences of their actions until it all falls over on top of them. Very noice. Slipper is actually taking his role pretty seriously. Just remember your NOICE when he does the same thing to Abbott. I have no problem with the mics being turned off & members being admonished for refusing to stay relevant.

Yep, agree with that. I notice he's pretty quick at ejecting them as well. Good on him for trying to knock some of the schoolyard out of that place. 

Sprintcyclist wrote on Feb 29^th, 2012 at 10:02am:

the worm has turned ...... Quote: IT WAS tempting to rush out and scan the sky for a blue moon or flying pork. The Speaker had ordered Prime Minister Julia Gillard to clam up and sit down. His reason? She was being irrelevant. No one could remember the like of it. Prime ministers and their ministers have traditionally spent large portions of every question time avoiding what most people would recognise as a semblance of relevance in responding to questions. The Speaker, Peter Slipper, has the quaint view that questions should be answered. Prime Minister Julia Gillard was forced to sit down. Resplendent in black robe, white bow tie and barrister's tabs, fresh from his latest ceremonial procession to the House, Mr Slipper decided to enforce his edict at the first opportunity yesterday. His mood was possibly sharpened by the appearance of the fellow he replaced as Speaker, Harry Jenkins, sporting his own silvery bow tie. The view around Parliament was that Mr Jenkins was gently taking the mickey. Opposition Leader Tony Abbott opened combat with his favourite subject: reminding Ms Gillard that she had promised during the last election campaign that there would be no carbon tax. Now she was introducing just such a tax and had admitted she had made mistakes she regretted, would she ''rescind her deception'' and put aside the tax until she took it to the next election? Mr Slipper ordered Mr Abbott to withdraw the word ''deception''. But when Ms Gillard launched into her answer the full might of the Speaker was exerted. ''Putting a price on carbon was the right thing to do and I stand by it,'' Ms Gillard began, her eyes turning flinty in the style she has assumed following the Great Unpleasantness of the past week. And then, in her well-practised manner, Ms Gillard turned the question on its head and got stuck into the opposition, declaring that Coalition MPs might like to explain why they had promised to introduce a price on carbon during the 2007 election campaign. As she reached full throttle, Mr Slipper called for her to be ''directly relevant'' to the question. Ms Gillard sailed on, and the Speaker hollered again for her to get back to the subject at hand. The Prime Minister, who appeared to have been studying Meryl Streep's Oscar-winning depiction of Maggie Thatcher in The Iron Lady, wasn't for turning. It was a battle of wills. Mr Slipper triumphed. He simply turned off the Prime Minister's microphone, told her she would no longer be heard and sat her down. Ms Gillard appeared thunderstruck.Speakers in the past have found themselves defrocked for lesser slights to a prime minister's dignity. But Mr Slipper pretty clearly knows Ms Gillard can't afford to have him back on the benches voting with the Coalition. She needs him exactly where he is, and he is free to behave as independently as he likes. Which, it appears, is quite a lot. http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/opinion/politics/speaker-in-drivers-seat-as-battle-of-wills-leaves-irrelevant-gillard-speechless-20120228-1u12c.html noice

LOL

Maybe Slipper will do some good  er. . .after all.

Gillard irritates everybody

adelcrow wrote on Feb 29^th, 2012 at 10:20am:

We finally have a speaker who takes their job seriously.Good on him..hopefully it goes a long way to cleaning up the unprofessional rabble that occurs during question time.

by dressing up like a fool and breaking the convention of being from the government side of the house? you are from SA so you remember Peter lewis... doesnt Slipper sound very similar (arrogant, over-inflated self opinion and bordeline insane)?

longweekend58 wrote on Feb 29^th, 2012 at 11:25am:

adelcrow wrote on Feb 29th, 2012 at 10:20am: We finally have a speaker who takes their job seriously.Good on him..hopefully it goes a long way to cleaning up the unprofessional rabble that occurs during question time. by dressing up like a fool and breaking the convention of being from the government side of the house? you are from SA so you remember Peter lewis... doesnt Slipper sound very similar (arrogant, over-inflated self opinion and bordeline insane)?

Our business has quite a lot of work thanks to Peter Lewis's demands to support Ranns Labor govt so Im not about to have a go at him   :P
But I agree he did take the speakers position seriously and considering all the extra salary and perks they get ..so they should.

she is going to be in trouble if she has to answer a question... my god its unheard of...

what will she do.????,.. I bet the opposition direct all questions to her from now on...

I for one am sick of ALL pollies never answering the questions, and spending more time talking about the opposition.

Finally a forward step.

I would like to see the footage to see the reaction though.

adelcrow wrote on Feb 29^th, 2012 at 11:30am:

longweekend58 wrote on Feb 29th, 2012 at 11:25am: adelcrow wrote on Feb 29th, 2012 at 10:20am: We finally have a speaker who takes their job seriously.Good on him..hopefully it goes a long way to cleaning up the unprofessional rabble that occurs during question time. by dressing up like a fool and breaking the convention of being from the government side of the house? you are from SA so you remember Peter lewis... doesnt Slipper sound very similar (arrogant, over-inflated self opinion and bordeline insane)? Our business has quite a lot of work thanks to Peter Lewis's demands to support Ranns Labor govt so Im not about to have a go at him   :P But I agree he did take the speakers position seriously and considering all the extra salary and perks they get ..so they should.

;D ;D ;D Dose your company supply the ASIAN HOOKERS ?

Slipper also sat down Julie Bishop during suspension of standing orders for not being relevant and refused to let Abbott have one more question.....The fact he sat Julia Gillard down after she was not being relevant was very good for our democratic process.....Politicians on both sides act like children who need to be made to behave like adults!!!

FRED. wrote on Feb 29^th, 2012 at 11:51am:

adelcrow wrote on Feb 29th, 2012 at 11:30am: longweekend58 wrote on Feb 29th, 2012 at 11:25am: adelcrow wrote on Feb 29th, 2012 at 10:20am: We finally have a speaker who takes their job seriously.Good on him..hopefully it goes a long way to cleaning up the unprofessional rabble that occurs during question time. by dressing up like a fool and breaking the convention of being from the government side of the house? you are from SA so you remember Peter lewis... doesnt Slipper sound very similar (arrogant, over-inflated self opinion and bordeline insane)? Our business has quite a lot of work thanks to Peter Lewis's demands to support Ranns Labor govt so Im not about to have a go at him   :P But I agree he did take the speakers position seriously and considering all the extra salary and perks they get ..so they should. ;D ;D ;D Dose your company supply the ASIAN HOOKERS ?

Close..Environmental Management Consultants specialising in water management  :P

adelcrow wrote on Feb 29^th, 2012 at 11:59am:

FRED. wrote on Feb 29th, 2012 at 11:51am: adelcrow wrote on Feb 29th, 2012 at 11:30am: longweekend58 wrote on Feb 29th, 2012 at 11:25am: adelcrow wrote on Feb 29th, 2012 at 10:20am: We finally have a speaker who takes their job seriously.Good on him..hopefully it goes a long way to cleaning up the unprofessional rabble that occurs during question time. by dressing up like a fool and breaking the convention of being from the government side of the house? you are from SA so you remember Peter lewis... doesnt Slipper sound very similar (arrogant, over-inflated self opinion and bordeline insane)? Our business has quite a lot of work thanks to Peter Lewis's demands to support Ranns Labor govt so Im not about to have a go at him   :P But I agree he did take the speakers position seriously and considering all the extra salary and perks they get ..so they should. ;D ;D ;D Dose your company supply the ASIAN HOOKERS ? Close..Environmental Management Consultants specialising in water management  :P

Plenty of water around to MANAGE   ;)

adelcrow wrote on Feb 29^th, 2012 at 11:30am:

longweekend58 wrote on Feb 29th, 2012 at 11:25am: adelcrow wrote on Feb 29th, 2012 at 10:20am: We finally have a speaker who takes their job seriously.Good on him..hopefully it goes a long way to cleaning up the unprofessional rabble that occurs during question time. by dressing up like a fool and breaking the convention of being from the government side of the house? you are from SA so you remember Peter lewis... doesnt Slipper sound very similar (arrogant, over-inflated self opinion and bordeline insane)? Our business has quite a lot of work thanks to Peter Lewis's demands to support Ranns Labor govt so Im not about to have a go at him   :P But I agree he did take the speakers position seriously and considering all the extra salary and perks they get ..so they should.

so self-interest is your sole determination of right or wrong, now? Looks like you have joined Andrei now.

NOBODY thought Peter Lewis was anything other than a mentally challenged clown. SLipper seems to be filling the same mould.

... and a FUNCTIONAL ( ... getting the job done) MINORITY GOVERNMENT - just got a bit HEALTHIERi

longweekend58 wrote on Feb 29^th, 2012 at 12:25pm:

adelcrow wrote on Feb 29th, 2012 at 11:30am: longweekend58 wrote on Feb 29th, 2012 at 11:25am: adelcrow wrote on Feb 29th, 2012 at 10:20am: We finally have a speaker who takes their job seriously.Good on him..hopefully it goes a long way to cleaning up the unprofessional rabble that occurs during question time. by dressing up like a fool and breaking the convention of being from the government side of the house? you are from SA so you remember Peter lewis... doesnt Slipper sound very similar (arrogant, over-inflated self opinion and bordeline insane)? Our business has quite a lot of work thanks to Peter Lewis's demands to support Ranns Labor govt so Im not about to have a go at him   :P But I agree he did take the speakers position seriously and considering all the extra salary and perks they get ..so they should. so self-interest is your sole determination of right or wrong, now? Looks like you have joined Andrei now. NOBODY thought Peter Lewis was anything other than a mentally challenged clown. SLipper seems to be filling the same mould.

I am just stating why Im biased on the subject and why those that only make judgements on people based on the media or political slurs may just be wrong.

buzzanddidj wrote on Feb 29^th, 2012 at 1:39pm:

... and a FUNCTIONAL ( ... getting the job done) MINORITY GOVERNMENT - just got a bit HEALTHIER

Lowest polling since Opinion polls began?
First Government to lose a majority after one term in just under a century?

Popular aren't they Buzz?
;D

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 29^th, 2012 at 2:29pm:

buzzanddidj wrote on Feb 29th, 2012 at 1:39pm: ... and a FUNCTIONAL ( ... getting the job done) MINORITY GOVERNMENT - just got a bit HEALTHIER Lowest polling since Opinion polls began? First Government to lose a majority after one term in just under a century? Popular aren't they Buzz? ;D

As popular as brussel sprouts on a kids dinner plate. Some kids will love them, some kids will just eat them because they are told to and most think they are plain awful.

progressiveslol wrote on Feb 29^th, 2012 at 2:43pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 29th, 2012 at 2:29pm: buzzanddidj wrote on Feb 29th, 2012 at 1:39pm: ... and a FUNCTIONAL ( ... getting the job done) MINORITY GOVERNMENT - just got a bit HEALTHIER Lowest polling since Opinion polls began? First Government to lose a majority after one term in just under a century? Popular aren't they Buzz? ;D As popular as brussel sprouts on a kids dinner plate. Some kids will love them, some kids will just eat them because they are told to and most think they are plain awful.

So it isn't about good governance lolly? It's about being popular. That's all that is important to you?

progressiveslol wrote on Feb 29^th, 2012 at 2:43pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 29th, 2012 at 2:29pm: buzzanddidj wrote on Feb 29th, 2012 at 1:39pm: ... and a FUNCTIONAL ( ... getting the job done) MINORITY GOVERNMENT - just got a bit HEALTHIER Lowest polling since Opinion polls began? First Government to lose a majority after one term in just under a century? Popular aren't they Buzz? ;D As popular as brussel sprouts on a kids dinner plate. Some kids will love them, some kids will just eat them because they are told to and most think they are plain awful.

McDonalds Happy meals are hugely popular around the world but that doesnt mean I ever want one.
Is Abbott the Happy Meal of politics?...Despite the advertising spin looks and tastes like sh!t and is very bad for you  ;D

I think great if a speaker can ake the government answer the actual questions and applaud him on principal however in this case I think the convention is to give the answerer a bit of latitude on the topic.

I think she was addressing a relivant part of the issue, I have seen much worse in this reguard.

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 29^th, 2012 at 2:29pm:

buzzanddidj wrote on Feb 29th, 2012 at 1:39pm: ... and a FUNCTIONAL ( ... getting the job done) MINORITY GOVERNMENT - just got a bit HEALTHIER Lowest polling since Opinion polls began? First Government to lose a majority after one term in just under a century? Popular aren't they Buzz? ;D

The Gillard Government could EASILY do what's "popular"

But they have chosen to do what's RIGHT

... and

http://writehanded.files.wordpress.com/2010/10/i__damn_the_torpedoes.jpg

I despise Slipper and think that he's a joke, but good on him for telling JuLIAR where to go. Every time that a Coalition MP asks a question, she just refuses to answer. Jenkins was as useless as tits on a bull in this regard.

Dnarever wrote on Feb 29^th, 2012 at 3:11pm:

I think great if a speaker can ake the government answer the actual questions and applaud him on principal however in this case I think the convention is to give the answerer a bit of latitude on the topic. I think she was addressing a relivant part of the issue, I have seen much worse in this reguard.

Answering a question shouldnt be 2.5 minutes of saying what the opposition did while in power, then the remaining 1/2 a minute talking about "working families."

Question time could have twice as many questions if they bother to answer them directly.

philperth2010 wrote on Feb 29^th, 2012 at 11:55am:

Slipper also sat down Julie Bishop during suspension of standing orders for not being relevant and refused to let Abbott have one more question.....The fact he sat Julia Gillard down after she was not being relevant was very good for our democratic process.....Politicians on both sides act like children who need to be made to behave like adults!!!

with Jenkins the opposition were quite often not allowed more questions on the same topic..

if Julia is been told to get on with it.. it will be a first thats for sure..

I dont have any problems with any of them being to to get on with answering the question..

Dnarever wrote on Feb 29^th, 2012 at 3:11pm:

I think great if a speaker can ake the government answer the actual questions and applaud him on principal however in this case I think the convention is to give the answerer a bit of latitude on the topic. I think she was addressing a relivant part of the issue, I have seen much worse in this reguard.

of course you have dna... it doesnt mean it right or we have to put up with it...

we have been screaming since forever for this lot to answer a question... it isnt new or something slipper discovered..

I find iut rude and bad mannered to be honest.

they are asked a question they know its coming.. why not answer it......is it because they cant?...

btw when their own side ask a question I get up and go and potter till the boring bits over.

buzzanddidj wrote on Feb 29^th, 2012 at 1:39pm:

... and a FUNCTIONAL ( ... getting the job done) MINORITY GOVERNMENT - just got a bit HEALTHIER

FUNCTIONAL??? not even labor MPs describe their govt in that way.

you are just a cheer squad member. not a analytical bone in your body.

Dnarever wrote on Feb 29^th, 2012 at 3:11pm:

I think great if a speaker can ake the government answer the actual questions and applaud him on principal however in this case I think the convention is to give the answerer a bit of latitude on the topic. I think she was addressing a relivant part of the issue, I have seen much worse in this reguard.

one day you might criticse labor....

or not.

Gist wrote on Feb 29^th, 2012 at 2:48pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Feb 29th, 2012 at 2:43pm: Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 29th, 2012 at 2:29pm: buzzanddidj wrote on Feb 29th, 2012 at 1:39pm: ... and a FUNCTIONAL ( ... getting the job done) MINORITY GOVERNMENT - just got a bit HEALTHIER Lowest polling since Opinion polls began? First Government to lose a majority after one term in just under a century? Popular aren't they Buzz? ;D As popular as brussel sprouts on a kids dinner plate. Some kids will love them, some kids will just eat them because they are told to and most think they are plain awful. So it isn't about good governance lolly? It's about being popular. That's all that is important to you?

Its actually about DEMOCRATIC govt - not good govt. It's about the people saying how they want the place run. Thats the highest pririty in any democracy. Not many understand that.

cods wrote on Feb 29^th, 2012 at 4:35pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Feb 29th, 2012 at 11:55am: Slipper also sat down Julie Bishop during suspension of standing orders for not being relevant and refused to let Abbott have one more question.....The fact he sat Julia Gillard down after she was not being relevant was very good for our democratic process.....Politicians on both sides act like children who need to be made to behave like adults!!! with Jenkins the opposition were quite often not allowed more questions on the same topic.. if Julia is been told to get on with it.. it will be a first thats for sure.. I dont have any problems with any of them being to to get on with answering the question..

Jenkins was a biased twit. I don't understand why Gillard was so upset when he resigned.

matty wrote on Feb 29^th, 2012 at 6:42pm:

cods wrote on Feb 29th, 2012 at 4:35pm: philperth2010 wrote on Feb 29th, 2012 at 11:55am: Slipper also sat down Julie Bishop during suspension of standing orders for not being relevant and refused to let Abbott have one more question.....The fact he sat Julia Gillard down after she was not being relevant was very good for our democratic process.....Politicians on both sides act like children who need to be made to behave like adults!!! with Jenkins the opposition were quite often not allowed more questions on the same topic.. if Julia is been told to get on with it.. it will be a first thats for sure.. I dont have any problems with any of them being to to get on with answering the question.. Jenkins was a biased twit. I don't understand why Gillard was so upset when he resigned.

she wasnt upset. she SACKED him.

longweekend58 wrote on Feb 29^th, 2012 at 7:03pm:

matty wrote on Feb 29th, 2012 at 6:42pm: cods wrote on Feb 29th, 2012 at 4:35pm: philperth2010 wrote on Feb 29th, 2012 at 11:55am: Slipper also sat down Julie Bishop during suspension of standing orders for not being relevant and refused to let Abbott have one more question.....The fact he sat Julia Gillard down after she was not being relevant was very good for our democratic process.....Politicians on both sides act like children who need to be made to behave like adults!!! with Jenkins the opposition were quite often not allowed more questions on the same topic.. if Julia is been told to get on with it.. it will be a first thats for sure.. I dont have any problems with any of them being to to get on with answering the question.. Jenkins was a biased twit. I don't understand why Gillard was so upset when he resigned. she wasnt upset. she SACKED him.

I know most of the neo cons cant see past their hatred but I still reckon Slipper is doing a bang up job as speaker and along with Julia sticking it up the "useless men" in the coalition things have perked up in politics since Kev accidently threw himself on the grenade.
:)

progressiveslol wrote on Feb 29^th, 2012 at 10:08am:

These labor idiots just dont know conciquences of their actions until it all falls over on top of them. Very noice.

lOL, Julie bishop is getting it in front of the nation badly! HOW EMBARRASMENT SHE IS TO THE SILVER SPOONERS!!  :-* :-*

adelcrow wrote on Feb 29^th, 2012 at 7:19pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Feb 29th, 2012 at 7:03pm: matty wrote on Feb 29th, 2012 at 6:42pm: cods wrote on Feb 29th, 2012 at 4:35pm: philperth2010 wrote on Feb 29th, 2012 at 11:55am: Slipper also sat down Julie Bishop during suspension of standing orders for not being relevant and refused to let Abbott have one more question.....The fact he sat Julia Gillard down after she was not being relevant was very good for our democratic process.....Politicians on both sides act like children who need to be made to behave like adults!!! with Jenkins the opposition were quite often not allowed more questions on the same topic.. if Julia is been told to get on with it.. it will be a first thats for sure.. I dont have any problems with any of them being to to get on with answering the question.. Jenkins was a biased twit. I don't understand why Gillard was so upset when he resigned. she wasnt upset. she SACKED him. I know most of the neo cons cant see past their hatred but I still reckon Slipper is doing a bang up job as speaker and along with Julia sticking it up the "useless men" in the coalition things have perked up in politics since Kev accidently threw himself on the grenade. :)

OH YEH, slipper has iproved things greatly!

  ;) ;)

adelcrow wrote on Feb 29^th, 2012 at 7:19pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Feb 29th, 2012 at 7:03pm: matty wrote on Feb 29th, 2012 at 6:42pm: cods wrote on Feb 29th, 2012 at 4:35pm: philperth2010 wrote on Feb 29th, 2012 at 11:55am: Slipper also sat down Julie Bishop during suspension of standing orders for not being relevant and refused to let Abbott have one more question.....The fact he sat Julia Gillard down after she was not being relevant was very good for our democratic process.....Politicians on both sides act like children who need to be made to behave like adults!!! with Jenkins the opposition were quite often not allowed more questions on the same topic.. if Julia is been told to get on with it.. it will be a first thats for sure.. I dont have any problems with any of them being to to get on with answering the question.. Jenkins was a biased twit. I don't understand why Gillard was so upset when he resigned. she wasnt upset. she SACKED him. I know most of the neo cons cant see past their hatred but I still reckon Slipper is doing a bang up job as speaker and along with Julia sticking it up the "useless men" in the coalition things have perked up in politics since Kev accidently threw himself on the grenade. :)

You'd be the only one. both sides of parliament think he is a jerk and he is ONLY there for political convenience. Harry jenkins has actually laughed at him.