Since Labor is still planning on going after Kevin Rudd's baby, a non permanent seat on the United Nations Security Council, which comes to a vote in October.


Will Labor now recognise Palestine's right to a seat at the UN.



Without it, our bid is doomed.



Will Labor go against Israel and gain the vital Arab votes, or will they continue their anti Palestine stance and blow our non permanent UN Security Council Seat bid.



Also, if supporting Palestine, will Labor back the BDS

Labor wont back Palestine...that's a rolled gold guarantee

adelcrow wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2012 at 2:09pm:

Labor wont back Palestine...that's a rolled gold guarantee

Then we might as well dump the non permanent security seat application.

Can't get it by upsetting the Arab block

____ wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2012 at 2:12pm:

adelcrow wrote on Mar 2nd, 2012 at 2:09pm: Labor wont back Palestine...that's a rolled gold guarantee Then we might as well dump the non permanent security seat application. Can't get it by upsetting the Arab block

Im hoping I am wrong  ;)

____ wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2012 at 2:05pm:

Since Labor is still planning on going after Kevin Rudd's baby, a non permanent seat on the United Nations Security Council, which comes to a vote in October.

Is it important? If so, to whom is it important.

I'd rather get a gold SCG membership.

The UN is a pathetic organisation.

Who gives a bugger about Palestine?

There you go, all fixed.  ;)

____ wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2012 at 2:05pm:

Since Labor is still planning on going after Kevin Rudd's baby, a non permanent seat on the United Nations Security Council, which comes to a vote in October. Will Labor now recognise Palestine's right to a seat at the UN. Without it, our bid is doomed. Will Labor go against Israel and gain the vital Arab votes, or will they continue their anti Palestine stance and blow our non permanent UN Security Council Seat bid. Also, if supporting Palestine, will Labor back the BDS

Prediction: they'll do what they always have and vote exactly the way the US do.

FriYAY wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2012 at 2:15pm:

The UN is a pathetic organisation. Who gives a bugger about Palestine? There you go, all fixed.  ;)

The UN is currently our main system for world governing.

On one hand people hate the UN, and on the other they oppose forming a democratic one world government.

Well people, it's one or the other, or the third option : Anarchy.


Time to decide.

Karnal wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2012 at 2:20pm:

____ wrote on Mar 2nd, 2012 at 2:05pm: Since Labor is still planning on going after Kevin Rudd's baby, a non permanent seat on the United Nations Security Council, which comes to a vote in October. Will Labor now recognise Palestine's right to a seat at the UN. Without it, our bid is doomed. Will Labor go against Israel and gain the vital Arab votes, or will they continue their anti Palestine stance and blow our non permanent UN Security Council Seat bid. Also, if supporting Palestine, will Labor back the BDS Prediction: they'll do what they always have and vote exactly the way the US do.

And all the western countries that vote against Palestine, majority of their people support Palestine's UN application. Be is the US, Australia, Britain, who ever.

The western governments refuse to represent their majority.

True, but if they did, they'd be bringing back the cane, the death penalty, getting rid of taxation and increasing government services.

Getting rid of boat people, Aborigines, Irish backpackers...

Karnal wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2012 at 2:30pm:

True, but if they did, they'd be bringing back the cane, the death penalty, getting rid of taxation and increasing government services.

legalise drugs, ending the praying before question time, mandating toilet seats must be down ... I see what you mean


It would just mean craziness everywhere.

____ wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2012 at 2:22pm:

FriYAY wrote on Mar 2nd, 2012 at 2:15pm: The UN is a pathetic organisation. Who gives a bugger about Palestine? There you go, all fixed.  ;) The UN is currently our main system for world governing. On one hand people hate the UN, and on the other they oppose forming a democratic one world government. Well people, it's one or the other, or the third option : Anarchy. Time to decide.

SO.

One world government is just a pile of horse crap that will never happen and never work.

FriYAY wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2012 at 2:39pm:

____ wrote on Mar 2nd, 2012 at 2:22pm: FriYAY wrote on Mar 2nd, 2012 at 2:15pm: The UN is a pathetic organisation. Who gives a bugger about Palestine? There you go, all fixed.  ;) The UN is currently our main system for world governing. On one hand people hate the UN, and on the other they oppose forming a democratic one world government. Well people, it's one or the other, or the third option : Anarchy. Time to decide. SO. One world government is just a pile of horse crap that will never happen and never work.

Yet we have to decide

The UN or a Democratic One World Government.


Then work through that system to gain the best outcomes.

If Labor supports Palestine it will p*ss off two significant allies to Australia.

Israel and the United States.

____ wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2012 at 2:05pm:

Will Labor now recognise Palestine's right to a seat at the UN. Also, if supporting Palestine, will Labor back the BDS

The Palestinian authorities refuse to sign and implement the United Nations universal declaration of human rights because human rights violate Islamic law.

I think a condition of entry to the UN should also include that country ratifying human rights with the UN standards not something from a dusty old book from the dark ages.

Palestine wants a seat on the UN yet they cannot accept the United nations version of human rights, that is the people the greens support.

Greenie loser you said the greens want to protect Islam which is a fascist totalitarian style of governing with no respect for human rights as we know them.
Islam is a political ideology and you want to protect an ideology that kills people for apostasy,blasphemy,homosexuality,it stones people to death for adultery,is that the ideology the greens are so eager to embrace and protect?

A thread on Islam vs The Universal declaration of human rights here-
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1327799946

If we boycott Israel does that mean no more precision weapons for our FA18 as the optical technology in those weapons is from Israel.

The Saudis are far more oppressive than the Israelis look at how Hamza Kashgari is being persecuted for thoughts he put on twitter.

The Greens are a joke

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2012 at 2:44pm:

If Labor supports Palestine it will p*ss off two significant allies to Australia. Israel and the United States.

How?


By having an independent thought?

By our government representing Australia


Perhaps If Australia has an independent though, Britain may follow.

Baronvonrort wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2012 at 2:47pm:

____ wrote on Mar 2nd, 2012 at 2:05pm: Will Labor now recognise Palestine's right to a seat at the UN. Also, if supporting Palestine, will Labor back the BDS The Palestinian authorities refuse to sign and implement the United Nations universal declaration of human rights because human rights violate Islamic law. I think a condition of entry to the UN should also include that country ratifying human rights with the UN standards not something from a dusty old book from the dark ages. Palestine wants a seat on the UN yet they cannot accept the United nations version of human rights, that is the people the greens support. Greenie loser you said the greens want to protect Islam which is a fascist totalitarian style of governing with no respect for human rights as we know them. Islam is a political ideology and you want to protect an ideology that kills people for apostasy,blasphemy,homosexuality,it stones people to death for adultery,is that the ideology the greens are so eager to embrace and protect? A thread on Islam vs The Universal declaration of human rights here- http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1327799946 If we boycott Israel does that mean no more precision weapons for our FA18 as the optical technology in those weapons is from Israel. The Saudis are far more oppressive than the Israelis look at how Hamza Kashgari is being persecuted for thoughts he put on twitter. The Greens are a joke

I have not stated that in typed word or voice.

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2012 at 2:44pm:

If Labor supports Palestine it will p*ss off two significant allies to Australia. Israel and the United States.

P*ss them off? I'd say it's pretty hard to be p*ssed off when EVERY country in the world supports Palestine except Israel, the US, Australia and, I think, Kazakstan and the Marshal Islands.

____ wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2012 at 2:42pm:

FriYAY wrote on Mar 2nd, 2012 at 2:39pm: ____ wrote on Mar 2nd, 2012 at 2:22pm: FriYAY wrote on Mar 2nd, 2012 at 2:15pm: The UN is a pathetic organisation. Who gives a bugger about Palestine? There you go, all fixed.  ;) The UN is currently our main system for world governing. On one hand people hate the UN, and on the other they oppose forming a democratic one world government. Well people, it's one or the other, or the third option : Anarchy. Time to decide. SO. One world government is just a pile of horse crap that will never happen and never work. Yet we have to decide The UN or a Democratic One World Government. Then work through that system to gain the best outcomes.

Why?

How about neither. ;)

FriYAY wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2012 at 2:55pm:

____ wrote on Mar 2nd, 2012 at 2:42pm: FriYAY wrote on Mar 2nd, 2012 at 2:39pm: ____ wrote on Mar 2nd, 2012 at 2:22pm: FriYAY wrote on Mar 2nd, 2012 at 2:15pm: The UN is a pathetic organisation. Who gives a bugger about Palestine? There you go, all fixed.  ;) The UN is currently our main system for world governing. On one hand people hate the UN, and on the other they oppose forming a democratic one world government. Well people, it's one or the other, or the third option : Anarchy. Time to decide. SO. One world government is just a pile of horse crap that will never happen and never work. Yet we have to decide The UN or a Democratic One World Government. Then work through that system to gain the best outcomes. Why? How about neither. ;)

Then how do we sort issues between nations and on global scale  ... via war?

____ wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2012 at 3:01pm:

FriYAY wrote on Mar 2nd, 2012 at 2:55pm: ____ wrote on Mar 2nd, 2012 at 2:42pm: FriYAY wrote on Mar 2nd, 2012 at 2:39pm: ____ wrote on Mar 2nd, 2012 at 2:22pm: FriYAY wrote on Mar 2nd, 2012 at 2:15pm: The UN is a pathetic organisation. Who gives a bugger about Palestine? There you go, all fixed.  ;) The UN is currently our main system for world governing. On one hand people hate the UN, and on the other they oppose forming a democratic one world government. Well people, it's one or the other, or the third option : Anarchy. Time to decide. SO. One world government is just a pile of horse crap that will never happen and never work. Yet we have to decide The UN or a Democratic One World Government. Then work through that system to gain the best outcomes. Why? How about neither. ;) Then how do we sort issues between nations and on global scale  ... via war?

Not via an organisation that lets in any despot leader, that's for sure.

No one obeys their poxy resolutions any way.

FriYAY wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2012 at 2:55pm:

____ wrote on Mar 2nd, 2012 at 2:42pm: FriYAY wrote on Mar 2nd, 2012 at 2:39pm: ____ wrote on Mar 2nd, 2012 at 2:22pm: FriYAY wrote on Mar 2nd, 2012 at 2:15pm: The UN is a pathetic organisation. Who gives a bugger about Palestine? There you go, all fixed.  ;) The UN is currently our main system for world governing. On one hand people hate the UN, and on the other they oppose forming a democratic one world government. Well people, it's one or the other, or the third option : Anarchy. Time to decide. SO. One world government is just a pile of horse crap that will never happen and never work. Yet we have to decide The UN or a Democratic One World Government. Then work through that system to gain the best outcomes. Why? How about neither. ;)

Good point. And while we're at it, lets do away with the internet, foreign trade, the telegraph, all transnational communication, regional decision-making bodies and trading blocks, multinational corporations, currency speculation, foreign investment, people smuggling and cheap airfares.

That should fix it.

Karnal wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2012 at 2:55pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 2nd, 2012 at 2:44pm: If Labor supports Palestine it will p*ss off two significant allies to Australia. Israel and the United States. P*ss them off? I'd say it's pretty hard to be p*ssed off when EVERY country in the world supports Palestine except Israel, the US, Australia and, I think, Kazakstan and the Marshal Islands.

Right on

FriYAY wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2012 at 3:04pm:

____ wrote on Mar 2nd, 2012 at 3:01pm: FriYAY wrote on Mar 2nd, 2012 at 2:55pm: ____ wrote on Mar 2nd, 2012 at 2:42pm: FriYAY wrote on Mar 2nd, 2012 at 2:39pm: ____ wrote on Mar 2nd, 2012 at 2:22pm: FriYAY wrote on Mar 2nd, 2012 at 2:15pm: The UN is a pathetic organisation. Who gives a bugger about Palestine? There you go, all fixed.  ;) The UN is currently our main system for world governing. On one hand people hate the UN, and on the other they oppose forming a democratic one world government. Well people, it's one or the other, or the third option : Anarchy. Time to decide. SO. One world government is just a pile of horse crap that will never happen and never work. Yet we have to decide The UN or a Democratic One World Government. Then work through that system to gain the best outcomes. Why? How about neither. ;) Then how do we sort issues between nations and on global scale  ... via war? Not via an organisation that lets in any despot leader, that's for sure. No one obeys their poxy resolutions any way.

Then how?


How do you think we should operate if you disagree with the UN


Start from the ground up and build a one world democratic government?

EVERY country in the world supports Palestine except Israel, the US, Australia and, I think, Kazakstan and the Marshal Islands.

You must have got hold of some goodshit!

Karnal wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2012 at 3:07pm:

FriYAY wrote on Mar 2nd, 2012 at 2:55pm: ____ wrote on Mar 2nd, 2012 at 2:42pm: FriYAY wrote on Mar 2nd, 2012 at 2:39pm: ____ wrote on Mar 2nd, 2012 at 2:22pm: FriYAY wrote on Mar 2nd, 2012 at 2:15pm: The UN is a pathetic organisation. Who gives a bugger about Palestine? There you go, all fixed.  ;) The UN is currently our main system for world governing. On one hand people hate the UN, and on the other they oppose forming a democratic one world government. Well people, it's one or the other, or the third option : Anarchy. Time to decide. SO. One world government is just a pile of horse crap that will never happen and never work. Yet we have to decide The UN or a Democratic One World Government. Then work through that system to gain the best outcomes. Why? How about neither. ;) Good point. And while we're at it, lets do away with the internet, foreign trade, the telegraph, all transnational communication, regional decision-making bodies and trading blocks, multinational corporations, currency speculation, foreign investment, people smuggling and cheap airfares. That should fix it.

Thanks moron... ::)....come on pony, roll over, roll over ;D

Nah, seriously, an assembly full of tinpot poo holes and their murderous dictators can bugger right off.

I do agree that people smuggling should be stopped, good for you on that one.

;)

blackadder wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2012 at 3:12pm:

EVERY country in the world supports Palestine except Israel, the US, Australia and, I think, Kazakstan and the Marshal Islands. You must have got hold of some goodshit!

I might have left someone out. I think the foreign office in Burundi are currently debating their position.

FriYAY wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2012 at 3:13pm:

Nah, seriously, an assembly full of tinpot poo holes and their murderous dictators can bugger right off. ;)

I see. You think some countries should be left out of global decision-making. Do you base this on their puppet governments, Friyay, or their attractiveness as tourist destinations?

Karnal wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2012 at 3:15pm:

blackadder wrote on Mar 2nd, 2012 at 3:12pm: EVERY country in the world supports Palestine except Israel, the US, Australia and, I think, Kazakstan and the Marshal Islands. You must have got hold of some goodshit! I might have left someone out. I think the foreign office in Burundi are currently debating their position.

The representative of Australia expressed strong support for Palestine’s sovereignty, saying his country was taking practical steps, including donating $300 million over the next five years.  Australia had changed its negative vote to an abstention, instead of supporting the text, because it did not recognize Israel’s legitimate security needs.  Australia was committed to the peace process and to a negotiated two-State solution, he said, urging the two sides to return to direct talks as a matter of urgency.



Seems like reasonable support. :-/

FriYAY wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2012 at 3:24pm:

Karnal wrote on Mar 2nd, 2012 at 3:15pm: blackadder wrote on Mar 2nd, 2012 at 3:12pm: EVERY country in the world supports Palestine except Israel, the US, Australia and, I think, Kazakstan and the Marshal Islands. You must have got hold of some goodshit! I might have left someone out. I think the foreign office in Burundi are currently debating their position. The representative of Australia expressed strong support for Palestine’s sovereignty, saying his country was taking practical steps, including donating $300 million over the next five years.  Australia had changed its negative vote to an abstention, instead of supporting the text, because it did not recognize Israel’s legitimate security needs.  Australia was committed to the peace process and to a negotiated two-State solution, he said, urging the two sides to return to direct talks as a matter of urgency. Seems like reasonable support. :-/

It does, doesn't it. It sounds exactly like the position of the US State Department too.

Karnal wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2012 at 3:26pm:

FriYAY wrote on Mar 2nd, 2012 at 3:24pm: Karnal wrote on Mar 2nd, 2012 at 3:15pm: blackadder wrote on Mar 2nd, 2012 at 3:12pm: EVERY country in the world supports Palestine except Israel, the US, Australia and, I think, Kazakstan and the Marshal Islands. You must have got hold of some goodshit! I might have left someone out. I think the foreign office in Burundi are currently debating their position. The representative of Australia expressed strong support for Palestine’s sovereignty, saying his country was taking practical steps, including donating $300 million over the next five years.  Australia had changed its negative vote to an abstention, instead of supporting the text, because it did not recognize Israel’s legitimate security needs.  Australia was committed to the peace process and to a negotiated two-State solution, he said, urging the two sides to return to direct talks as a matter of urgency. Seems like reasonable support. :-/ It does, doesn't it. It sounds exactly like the position of the US State Department too.

Whoop-de-do.

And what should be done with Isreal?

I'm not sure. Do you think we should ask the State Departments of Kazakstan, the Marshall Islands and Burundi?

They might know something we don't.

Karnal wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2012 at 3:31pm:

I'm not sure. Do you think we should ask the State Departments of Kazakstan, the Marshall Islands and Burundi? They might know something we don't.

Sit booboo sit, good dog! :D

So, what's your opinion pony? :-?

The UN is about as useful and ought to be consigned to the same place as the League of Nations.
If you are the US, UK, France, China or Russia you can veto any action even if every other country supports it. That's what they really think of democracy.
Last I heard the US was the biggest debtor to the UN.

FriYAY wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2012 at 3:37pm:

Karnal wrote on Mar 2nd, 2012 at 3:31pm: I'm not sure. Do you think we should ask the State Departments of Kazakstan, the Marshall Islands and Burundi? They might know something we don't. Sit booboo sit, good dog! :D So, what's your opinion pony? :-?

I agree with you. You're saying we shouldn't give tinpot countries with corrupt dictators an equal vote in global decision-making because they'll just trade their votes for whatever's in their best interest, right?

With the exception of Burundi, Kazakstan, the Marshall Islands and Australia.

We vote on principle.

Karnal wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2012 at 3:45pm:

FriYAY wrote on Mar 2nd, 2012 at 3:37pm: Karnal wrote on Mar 2nd, 2012 at 3:31pm: I'm not sure. Do you think we should ask the State Departments of Kazakstan, the Marshall Islands and Burundi? They might know something we don't. Sit booboo sit, good dog! :D So, what's your opinion pony? :-? I agree with you. You're saying we shouldn't give tinpot countries with corrupt dictators an equal vote in global decision-making because they'll just trade their votes for whatever's in their best interest, right? With the exception of Burundi, Kazakstan, the Marshall Islands and Australia. We vote on principle.

I'm saying, am i? All i'm saying is i couldn't give a bugger what the tinpot murderers vote for or against. Don't know why you do.

Do you think you are winding Matty up Pony?

Do you have an original thought on this?

FriYAY wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2012 at 3:48pm:

Karnal wrote on Mar 2nd, 2012 at 3:45pm: FriYAY wrote on Mar 2nd, 2012 at 3:37pm: Karnal wrote on Mar 2nd, 2012 at 3:31pm: I'm not sure. Do you think we should ask the State Departments of Kazakstan, the Marshall Islands and Burundi? They might know something we don't. Sit booboo sit, good dog! :D So, what's your opinion pony? :-? I agree with you. You're saying we shouldn't give tinpot countries with corrupt dictators an equal vote in global decision-making because they'll just trade their votes for whatever's in their best interest, right? With the exception of Burundi, Kazakstan, the Marshall Islands and Australia. We vote on principle. I'm saying, am i? All i'm saying is i couldn't give a bugger what the tinpot murderers vote for or against. Don't know why you do. Do you think you are winding Matty up Pony? Do you have an original thought on this?

I see. You were previously against a global decision-making body. Perhaps you have changed your mind.

You're not Matty, are you?

Karnal wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2012 at 3:51pm:

FriYAY wrote on Mar 2nd, 2012 at 3:48pm: Karnal wrote on Mar 2nd, 2012 at 3:45pm: FriYAY wrote on Mar 2nd, 2012 at 3:37pm: Karnal wrote on Mar 2nd, 2012 at 3:31pm: I'm not sure. Do you think we should ask the State Departments of Kazakstan, the Marshall Islands and Burundi? They might know something we don't. Sit booboo sit, good dog! :D So, what's your opinion pony? :-? I agree with you. You're saying we shouldn't give tinpot countries with corrupt dictators an equal vote in global decision-making because they'll just trade their votes for whatever's in their best interest, right? With the exception of Burundi, Kazakstan, the Marshall Islands and Australia. We vote on principle. I'm saying, am i? All i'm saying is i couldn't give a bugger what the tinpot murderers vote for or against. Don't know why you do. Do you think you are winding Matty up Pony? Do you have an original thought on this? I see. You were previously against a global decision-making body. Perhaps you have changed your mind. You're not Matty, are you?

No, i'm against any global decision making body, it's really simple.

Time for a can.

Ah, good. And while we're at it, lets do away with the internet, foreign trade, the telegraph, all transnational communication, regional decision-making bodies and trading blocks, multinational corporations, currency speculation, foreign investment, people smuggling and cheap airfares.

That should fix it.

Enjoy your can, Friyay. It's Friday!

Karnal wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2012 at 3:18pm:

FriYAY wrote on Mar 2nd, 2012 at 3:13pm: Nah, seriously, an assembly full of tinpot poo holes and their murderous dictators can bugger right off. ;) I see. You think some countries should be left out of global decision-making. Do you base this on their puppet governments, Friyay, or their attractiveness as tourist destinations?

Well I find China having a vote on human rights violations in other countries to be a tad galling.

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2012 at 4:18pm:

Karnal wrote on Mar 2nd, 2012 at 3:18pm: FriYAY wrote on Mar 2nd, 2012 at 3:13pm: Nah, seriously, an assembly full of tinpot poo holes and their murderous dictators can bugger right off. ;) I see. You think some countries should be left out of global decision-making. Do you base this on their puppet governments, Friyay, or their attractiveness as tourist destinations? Well I find China having a vote on human rights violations in other countries to be a tad galling.

Yeah, China's got the GITMO torture base in Cuba, aye Hicks

Karnal wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2012 at 3:59pm:

Ah, good. And while we're at it, lets do away with the internet, foreign trade, the telegraph, all transnational communication, regional decision-making bodies and trading blocks, multinational corporations, currency speculation, foreign investment, people smuggling and cheap airfares. That should fix it. Enjoy your can, Friyay. It's Friday!

What should be done with Israel booboo?

Why can't/won't you answer the question?

Anybody who thinks Palestine will get a seat with or without our support in the current political climate are p*ssing into the wind.

And anyone who thinks the United States will take a stronger anti-Israel, pro-Palestine view in an election campaign year also needs a serious reality check.

Both Obama and Romney will go hell for leather for the Jewish vote.

Florida is a must-win state.

GoddyofOz wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2012 at 10:18am:

Anybody who thinks Palestine will get a seat with or without our support in the current political climate are p*ssing into the wind.

They are so close to getting the three quarters required yet it is the western industrial nation block that are standing in the way.

And as already stated, within these nations like Australia, the majority support Palestine's bid.

Go figure ... it's a few guys in high places, that are standing in the way of the majority of humans ... again !

____ wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2012 at 11:05am:

GoddyofOz wrote on Mar 3rd, 2012 at 10:18am: Anybody who thinks Palestine will get a seat with or without our support in the current political climate are p*ssing into the wind. They are so close to getting the three quarters required yet it is the western industrial nation block that are standing in the way. And as already stated, within these nations like Australia, the majority support Palestine's bid. Go figure ... it's a few guys in high places, that are standing in the way of the majority of humans ... again !

Really?

Whaen was that vote? When did we get asked that question?

I'd say the majority couldn't give 2 hoots. I'd be happy if i didn't hear about the ME ever again.

____ wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2012 at 11:05am:

GoddyofOz wrote on Mar 3rd, 2012 at 10:18am: Anybody who thinks Palestine will get a seat with or without our support in the current political climate are p*ssing into the wind. They are so close to getting the three quarters required yet it is the western industrial nation block that are standing in the way. And as already stated, within these nations like Australia, the majority support Palestine's bid. Go figure ... it's a few guys in high places, that are standing in the way of the majority of humans ... again !

Unless you have the support of the United States woody it all means jack-sh*t.

Veto power my friend.

PS - Have a glance through what has been the subject of over 80% of the USA's historical use of the veto.