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Netanyahu 1992: Iran will Have the Bomb by 1997

Posted on 03/06/2012 by Juan

Scott Peterson at the Christian Science Monitor did a useful timeline for dire Israeli and US predictions of an imminent Iranian nuclear weapon, beginning 20 years ago.

1992: Israeli member of parliament Binyamin Netanyahu predicts that Iran was “3 to 5 years” from having a nuclear weapon.

1992: Israeli Foreign Minister Shimon Peres predicts an Iranian nuclear warhead by 1999 to French TV.

1995: The New York Times quotes US and Israeli officials saying that Iran would have the bomb by 2000.

1998: Donald Rumsfeld tells Congress that Iran could have an intercontinental ballistic missile that could hit the US by 2003.

Fear Fear FEAR

Fear? Nah...

Iran is a pain in the butt to the big oil companies. In 2008 Iran helped with massive protests against secret sweetheart deals Exxon, Conoco, and Shell - with the help of Washington - foisted on Iraq. That killed thiose deals off and let China and Russia (partially) back in. Check out the 2009 round of contracts.

Iran have also helped stymie Israel's attempts to get hold of southern Lebanon, and in particular the Litani river, by helping arm Hezbollah. Iran has also helped Hamas in the past.

But the US and Israel can't very well complain to the UN and the wider world about all that, can they? lol

Brendon wrote on Mar 8^th, 2012 at 10:17am:

http://www.juancole.com/2012/03/netanyahu-1992-iran-will-have-the-bomb-by-1997.html Netanyahu 1992: Iran will Have the Bomb by 1997 Posted on 03/06/2012 by Juan Scott Peterson at the Christian Science Monitor did a useful timeline for dire Israeli and US predictions of an imminent Iranian nuclear weapon, beginning 20 years ago. 1992: Israeli member of parliament Binyamin Netanyahu predicts that Iran was “3 to 5 years” from having a nuclear weapon. 1992: Israeli Foreign Minister Shimon Peres predicts an Iranian nuclear warhead by 1999 to French TV. 1995: The New York Times quotes US and Israeli officials saying that Iran would have the bomb by 2000. 1998: Donald Rumsfeld tells Congress that Iran could have an intercontinental ballistic missile that could hit the US by 2003.

If they make enough predictions, there bound to get one right eventually. :)
Better than waiting until after a thermonuclear weapon sent from Iran has landed in Tel Aviv though to make a prediction cause that would be a bit silly really.
Or a few dirty bombs sent over from Hezbollah or Hamas landing in Israeli towns.
Because if that happens, all of the options Israel once had available, are instantaneously reduced to one option only.
Total war.

Deceiving the public about the real reasons for going to war are nothing new for the West:

John Howard gave Iraq's possession of WMDs as a reason for sending Australian troops into the war

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2011-08-11/army-sniper/2834756


IRAQ: How Bush, Howard and Blair lied about WMD
http://www.greenleft.org.au/node/29617



Taliban 'offered bin Laden trial before 9/11'

Former minister says group was prepared to see bin Laden put on trial prior to 9/11, but US was not interested.
http://www.aljazeera.com/news/asia/2011/09/20119115334167663.html


The Gulf of Tonkin Incident, 40 Years Later

Flawed Intelligence and the Decision for War in Vietnam
http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB132/index.htm

'US Army suicides jumped by 80% following Iraq invasion'

http://previous.presstv.ir/photo/20120307/jammas.hussain20120307214232880.jpg
A father visits the grave of his son, who died while fighting in Iraq, at Arlington National Cemetery in Arlington, Virginia on September 10, 2011.



American military doctors say the number of suicides in the US Army jumped by 80 percent after the Iraq invasion.

Before 2003, the percentage of Army suicides was below civilian rates, but it started to climb in 2004, one year after the US-led invasion, according to the doctors’ analysis, which was expected to appear in the British journal Injury Prevention on Thursday.

In 2008, 140 Army servicemen committed suicide, a rate, which reflected an 80 percent increase from 2004, the article noted. The suicide rate was also a lot higher than that of the civilian society’s, it said.

"This increase, unprecedented in over 30 years of US Army records, suggests that 30 percent of suicides that occurred in 2008 may be associated with post-2003 events following the major commitment of troops to Iraq, in addition to the ongoing operations in Afghanistan," said the paper.

It noted that more than one-fifth of all active-duty troops suffered from some kind of mental disorder.

According to three different studies published in the American Journal of Public Health in January, many US military personnel and veterans are struggling with post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD), depression or other consequences of deployment to war zones.

A study of almost 600 US veterans returning from Iraq or Afghanistan showed that nearly 14 percent of them were suffering from PTSD and 39 percent from probable alcohol abuse.

All the American troops, except for military contingents attached to the US Embassy in Baghdad and US consulates in the country, left Iraq in December 2011.

Washington launched the invasion in 2003 under the pretext that Iraq was in possession of weapons of mass destruction (WMD).

However, later it was revealed that not only the former Iraqi dictator, Saddam Hussein, was not in possession of WMDs, but also that the US and UK leaders, who had defended the military action, knew about the non-existence of such weapons.

More than one million Iraqis were killed during the 2003-2011 invasion and subsequent occupation, according to the California-based investigative organization, Project Censored.

http://www.presstv.com/detail/230508.html

do you ever have an original thought that isnt stupid

If they make enough predictions, there bound to get one right eventually. :)
Better than waiting until after a thermonuclear weapon sent from Iran has landed in Tel Aviv though to make a prediction cause that would be a bit silly really.
Or a few dirty bombs sent over from Hezbollah or Hamas landing in Israeli towns.
Because if that happens, all of the options Israel once had available, are instantaneously reduced to one option only.
Total war.
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Interesting. Israel has been caught lying for 2 decades on this matter to get a regional competitor attacked, and your response is if they keep lying one day they may be right.


Since Israel predicted in 1992 that Iran would have the bomb by 1997, and its been 15 years since then, isn't it time to put this lie to bed?

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Mar 8^th, 2012 at 1:02pm:

[quote author=6151464D474C4D230 link=1331165830/0#0 date=1331165830] If they make enough predictions, there bound to get one right eventually. :) Better than waiting until after a thermonuclear weapon sent from Iran has landed in Tel Aviv though to make a prediction cause that would be a bit silly really. Or a few dirty bombs sent over from Hezbollah or Hamas landing in Israeli towns. Because if that happens, all of the options Israel once had available, are instantaneously reduced to one option only. Total war.

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Mar 8^th, 2012 at 1:02pm:

[quote author=6151464D474C4D230 link=1331165830/0#0 date=1331165830] If they make enough predictions, there bound to get one right eventually. :) Better than waiting until after a thermonuclear weapon sent from Iran has landed in Tel Aviv though to make a prediction cause that would be a bit silly really. Or a few dirty bombs sent over from Hezbollah or Hamas landing in Israeli towns. Because if that happens, all of the options Israel once had available, are instantaneously reduced to one option only. Total war.

Why would you think Iran would want to attack Israel if it hasn't already done it by now. Iran could unleash a pretty potent non nuclear attack now. What is stopping Iran now?

Brendon wrote on Mar 8^th, 2012 at 5:02pm:

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Mar 8th, 2012 at 1:02pm: [quote author=6151464D474C4D230 link=1331165830/0#0 date=1331165830] If they make enough predictions, there bound to get one right eventually. :) Better than waiting until after a thermonuclear weapon sent from Iran has landed in Tel Aviv though to make a prediction cause that would be a bit silly really. Or a few dirty bombs sent over from Hezbollah or Hamas landing in Israeli towns. Because if that happens, all of the options Israel once had available, are instantaneously reduced to one option only. Total war. Why would you think Iran would want to attack Israel if it hasn't already done it by now. Iran could unleash a pretty potent non nuclear attack now. What is stopping Iran now?

The memory of 1948, 1956, 1967,1973.
A 4-0 scorecard is etched in the memory.
And the knowledge that if Israels nuclear arsenal is true, all will be lost.

Brendon wrote on Mar 8^th, 2012 at 10:17am:

http://www.juancole.com/2012/03/netanyahu-1992-iran-will-have-the-bomb-by-1997.html Netanyahu 1992: Iran will Have the Bomb by 1997 Posted on 03/06/2012 by Juan Scott Peterson at the Christian Science Monitor did a useful timeline for dire Israeli and US predictions of an imminent Iranian nuclear weapon, beginning 20 years ago. 1992: Israeli member of parliament Binyamin Netanyahu predicts that Iran was “3 to 5 years” from having a nuclear weapon. 1992: Israeli Foreign Minister Shimon Peres predicts an Iranian nuclear warhead by 1999 to French TV. 1995: The New York Times quotes US and Israeli officials saying that Iran would have the bomb by 2000. 1998: Donald Rumsfeld tells Congress that Iran could have an intercontinental ballistic missile that could hit the US by 2003.

Sounds like the boy who cried wolf ;)

Sir lastnail wrote on Mar 8^th, 2012 at 9:19pm:

Brendon wrote on Mar 8th, 2012 at 10:17am: http://www.juancole.com/2012/03/netanyahu-1992-iran-will-have-the-bomb-by-1997.html Netanyahu 1992: Iran will Have the Bomb by 1997 Posted on 03/06/2012 by Juan Scott Peterson at the Christian Science Monitor did a useful timeline for dire Israeli and US predictions of an imminent Iranian nuclear weapon, beginning 20 years ago. 1992: Israeli member of parliament Binyamin Netanyahu predicts that Iran was “3 to 5 years” from having a nuclear weapon. 1992: Israeli Foreign Minister Shimon Peres predicts an Iranian nuclear warhead by 1999 to French TV. 1995: The New York Times quotes US and Israeli officials saying that Iran would have the bomb by 2000. 1998: Donald Rumsfeld tells Congress that Iran could have an intercontinental ballistic missile that could hit the US by 2003. Sounds like the boy who cried wolf ;)

Exactly. I sooo agree with you. Bomb them before it's too late.

It is better to bomb them than to add a date to that timeline showing when Iran got the bomb. i




;)

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Mar 8^th, 2012 at 7:36pm:

Brendon wrote on Mar 8th, 2012 at 5:02pm: chicken_lipsforme wrote on Mar 8th, 2012 at 1:02pm: [quote author=6151464D474C4D230 link=1331165830/0#0 date=1331165830] If they make enough predictions, there bound to get one right eventually. :) Better than waiting until after a thermonuclear weapon sent from Iran has landed in Tel Aviv though to make a prediction cause that would be a bit silly really. Or a few dirty bombs sent over from Hezbollah or Hamas landing in Israeli towns. Because if that happens, all of the options Israel once had available, are instantaneously reduced to one option only. Total war. Why would you think Iran would want to attack Israel if it hasn't already done it by now. Iran could unleash a pretty potent non nuclear attack now. What is stopping Iran now? The memory of 1948, 1956, 1967,1973. A 4-0 scorecard is etched in the memory. And the knowledge that if Israels nuclear arsenal is true, all will be lost.

You are forgetting the great victory of 2009, where the Israelis bravely battled the Gazan civilians armed only with the latest US military hardware, killing about 1200 civilians terrorists.

Get the inspectors into Iran. We know they did a brilliant job in Iraq.

Get the inspectors into Iran. We know they did a brilliant job in Iraq.

Brendon wrote on Mar 8^th, 2012 at 4:58pm:

If they make enough predictions, there bound to get one right eventually. :) Better than waiting until after a thermonuclear weapon sent from Iran has landed in Tel Aviv though to make a prediction cause that would be a bit silly really. Or a few dirty bombs sent over from Hezbollah or Hamas landing in Israeli towns. Because if that happens, all of the options Israel once had available, are instantaneously reduced to one option only. Total war.

Quote:

Interesting. Israel has been caught lying for 2 decades on this matter to get a regional competitor attacked, and your response is if they keep lying one day they may be right. Since Israel predicted in 1992 that Iran would have the bomb by 1997, and its been 15 years since then, isn't it time to put this lie to bed?

You mean put the head in the sand don't you. :)
That'll be the day.
Intellegence forces around the planet have gotten things wrong for decades. the Mossad is no exception.
But Ahmadinejad has already previously stated his intentions to wipe Israel off the map, and Israel already have his missiles exploding on Israeli streets on a regular basis.
You know the ones Iran supplies to Hezbollah, Hamas and any other Jew hating organisations.
You may well feel comfortable placing your head in a sandy flowerpot, but only a fool would trust Iran and their kooky leader.
And as for Iran being a 'regional competitor', I don't know what in.
Do you?

Brendon wrote on Mar 8^th, 2012 at 11:16pm:

killing about 1200 civilians terrorists.

Right there is the crux: civilian or terrorist? Can't tell 'em apart. The problem would have been solved ages ago if you could tell the difference.

Anyway, Iran is building undeground nuclear facilities and endures crippling international senctions - all just to develop peaceful nuclear energy and medical isotopes. You must be the only one who believes that.

Soren wrote on Mar 9^th, 2012 at 9:57am:

Brendon wrote on Mar 8th, 2012 at 11:16pm: killing about 1200 civilians terrorists. Anyway, Iran is building undeground nuclear facilities and endures crippling international senctions - all just to develop peaceful nuclear energy and medical isotopes. You must be the only one who believes that.

Recent history tells us it doesn't matter what Iran do or don't do.

And after year of lies and US propaganda, the world believed Iraq had WMDs, and that was that. Funny how it turned out.

Surely the world could not be that stupid to let it happen again in so short a time.

In the case of Iraq, they complied straight away and  almost entirely. Then, under immense pressure from the US, the UNESCO goal posts were changed constantly to make it impossible for Iraq to comply. At one stage under US direction and pressure the then chief weapons inspector at the time, Aussie Richard Butler, went on a fishing expedition asking to see the most sensitive of sites in Iraq. He got to see nearly all 300(?). Iraq stopped on just 5. The US used this as a pretext to bomb and kill some more Iraqis. It was a scam from go to whoah. And so is this.

If you want Iran bombed for the greater glory of Israel, just say so. Stop the pretense.

Brendon wrote on Mar 9^th, 2012 at 10:25am:

Soren wrote on Mar 9th, 2012 at 9:57am: Brendon wrote on Mar 8th, 2012 at 11:16pm: killing about 1200 civilians terrorists. Anyway, Iran is building undeground nuclear facilities and endures crippling international senctions - all just to develop peaceful nuclear energy and medical isotopes. You must be the only one who believes that. Recent history tells us it doesn't matter what Iran do or don't do. And after year of lies and US propaganda, the world believed Iraq had WMDs, and that was that. Funny how it turned out. Surely the world could not be that stupid to let it happen again in so short a time. In the case of Iraq, they complied straight away and  almost entirely. Then, under immense pressure from the US, the UNESCO goal posts were changed constantly to make it impossible for Iraq to comply. At one stage under US direction and pressure the then chief weapons inspector at the time, Aussie Richard Butler, went on a fishing expedition asking to see the most sensitive of sites in Iraq. He got to see nearly all 300(?). Iraq stopped on just 5. The US used this as a pretext to bomb and kill some more Iraqis. It was a scam from go to whoah. And so is this. If you want Iran bombed for the greater glory of Israel, just say so. Stop the pretense.

But why would they bother with Iran if it wasn't a threat? They are not threatening Somalia or Yemen or Belgium or Mongolia. They are not threats.

What's the issue then with Iran? If Iran is just like all other countries why single it out?

Soren wrote on Mar 9^th, 2012 at 10:35am:

Brendon wrote on Mar 9th, 2012 at 10:25am: Soren wrote on Mar 9th, 2012 at 9:57am: Brendon wrote on Mar 8th, 2012 at 11:16pm: killing about 1200 civilians terrorists. Anyway, Iran is building undeground nuclear facilities and endures crippling international senctions - all just to develop peaceful nuclear energy and medical isotopes. You must be the only one who believes that. Recent history tells us it doesn't matter what Iran do or don't do. And after year of lies and US propaganda, the world believed Iraq had WMDs, and that was that. Funny how it turned out. Surely the world could not be that stupid to let it happen again in so short a time. In the case of Iraq, they complied straight away and  almost entirely. Then, under immense pressure from the US, the UNESCO goal posts were changed constantly to make it impossible for Iraq to comply. At one stage under US direction and pressure the then chief weapons inspector at the time, Aussie Richard Butler, went on a fishing expedition asking to see the most sensitive of sites in Iraq. He got to see nearly all 300(?). Iraq stopped on just 5. The US used this as a pretext to bomb and kill some more Iraqis. It was a scam from go to whoah. And so is this. If you want Iran bombed for the greater glory of Israel, just say so. Stop the pretense. But why would they bother with Iran if it wasn't a threat? They are not threatening Somalia or Yemen or Belgium or Mongolia. They are not threats. What's the issue then with Iran? If Iran is just like all other countries why single it out?

Israel wants southern Lebanon, Iran supports Hezbollah which stops Israel's strategy there. Remember 2006? Israel tried to take southern Lebanon - for the 3rd time - and got driven back by Hezbollah.

There is one reason.

Iran has supported Hamas. Israel wants to kick the Palestinians out of the West Bank and Gaza.

Thats another reason.

Iran is very influential over Iraq's politics. And its oil policy.

There is a reason for America.

Soren wrote on Mar 9^th, 2012 at 10:35am:

Brendon wrote on Mar 9th, 2012 at 10:25am: Soren wrote on Mar 9th, 2012 at 9:57am: Brendon wrote on Mar 8th, 2012 at 11:16pm: killing about 1200 civilians terrorists. Anyway, Iran is building undeground nuclear facilities and endures crippling international senctions - all just to develop peaceful nuclear energy and medical isotopes. You must be the only one who believes that. Recent history tells us it doesn't matter what Iran do or don't do. And after year of lies and US propaganda, the world believed Iraq had WMDs, and that was that. Funny how it turned out. Surely the world could not be that stupid to let it happen again in so short a time. In the case of Iraq, they complied straight away and  almost entirely. Then, under immense pressure from the US, the UNESCO goal posts were changed constantly to make it impossible for Iraq to comply. At one stage under US direction and pressure the then chief weapons inspector at the time, Aussie Richard Butler, went on a fishing expedition asking to see the most sensitive of sites in Iraq. He got to see nearly all 300(?). Iraq stopped on just 5. The US used this as a pretext to bomb and kill some more Iraqis. It was a scam from go to whoah. And so is this. If you want Iran bombed for the greater glory of Israel, just say so. Stop the pretense. But why would they bother with Iran if it wasn't a threat? They are not threatening Somalia or Yemen or Belgium or Mongolia. They are not threats. What's the issue then with Iran? If Iran is just like all other countries why single it out?

Because those countries are not standing in the way of Zionism.

The blue stripes on the Israeli flag represent the Nile and Euphrates Rivers. The Zionists seek to put the Jews in all the labnd between these rivers, because they believe it will somehow make the Messiah appear.

Sharon’s Vision: An Israel From Nile to Euphrates
http://archive.arabnews.com/?page=7&section=0&article=76890&d=27&m=1&y=2006

Countries that Zionists wish to oocupy:

Palestine
Iraq
Syria
Egypt
Somalia
Sudan
Lebanon
Jordan
Saudi Arabia

Israelis have already invaded Egypt, Lebanon, Jordan and Syria.

George Bush was a Zionist, and the reason he invaded Iraq lies in Zionism.

While previously, it was Saddam Hussein's Iraq that was doing the most to curb Zionist expansionism, now that role is played by Iran. Therefore the Zionists must attack Iran.